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      <description>[Sorry this took so long. Other Stuff to Do.] Come on along and listen to The whisper of the Flatiron...</description>
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         <title>More Songs About Buildings and Food -- comment #1 from Zander</title>
         <description>comment from Zander on 12.Nov.05</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah. Memories of "How Much For Just The Planet?"</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November 12, 2005  4:39 AM by Zander&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>More Songs About Buildings and Food -- comment #2 from Serge</title>
         <description>comment from Serge on 12.Nov.05</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hats off again to Master Mike.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November 12, 2005  6:49 AM by Serge&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>More Songs About Buildings and Food -- comment #3 from Serge</title>
         <description>comment from Serge on 12.Nov.05</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, why does Tom Doherty keep the air conditioning on even during winter? (Teresa said something about that in the earlier Flatiron thread.)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November 12, 2005  6:51 AM by Serge&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>More Songs About Buildings and Food -- comment #4 from Bob Oldendorf</title>
         <description>comment from Bob Oldendorf on 12.Nov.05</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mentioned this a couple weeks ago deep in <a href="http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/006924.html#100705" rel="nofollow">Open Thread 52</a>, but it might be worth repeating here, now that it's actually relevant to the conversation:</p>

<p>The nitrate film of "At the Foot of the Flatiron Building" is now available on polycarbonate DVD.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November 12, 2005 10:34 AM by Bob Oldendorf&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>More Songs About Buildings and Food -- comment #5 from bryan</title>
         <description>comment from bryan on 12.Nov.05</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>'By the way, why does Tom Doherty keep the air conditioning on even during winter?'<br />
well I've got the fan running right now, and it's pretty darn cold. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November 12, 2005 10:50 AM by bryan&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>More Songs About Buildings and Food -- comment #6 from Serge</title>
         <description>comment from Serge on 12.Nov.05</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But why, Bryan, why? Inquiring minds want to know.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November 12, 2005 11:08 AM by Serge&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>More Songs About Buildings and Food -- comment #7 from Mike</title>
         <description>comment from Mike on 12.Nov.05</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They-ey-ey asked me how I knew<br />
Flatiron whispers blew<br />
Oh-ah-oh-oh-oh, I of course replied<br />
Something in my ears cannot be denied</p>

<p>They-ey-ey said someday you'll find<br />
Car smog makes you blind<br />
Oh-ah-oh-oh-oh, when the Flatiron whispers<br />
You must realize<br />
You must close your eyes</p>

<p>So I chaffed them and I gaily laughed<br />
Don't tell me it's just my iPod<br />
Yet today my hat has flown away<br />
Don't tell me I'm being schizoid</p>

<p>Now institution walls will hide<br />
Truths you can't abide<br />
Oh-ah-oh-oh-oh, so I smile and say<br />
Pass my medication<br />
So Flatiron whispers may die</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November 12, 2005 11:44 AM by Mike&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>More Songs About Buildings and Food -- comment #8 from Serge</title>
         <description>comment from Serge on 12.Nov.05</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did the Flatiron make it into <b>On the Town</b>'s famous musical number when Kelly, Sinatra and Muchin are signing their way pat various landmarks of New York? (I could go look on my DVD but then I'd have to watch the whole thing and I keep it for special occasions, such as Sept 11.)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November 12, 2005 11:54 AM by Serge&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>More Songs About Buildings and Food -- comment #9 from bryan</title>
         <description>comment from bryan on 12.Nov.05</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>'But why, Bryan, why? Inquiring minds want to know.'</p>

<p>well basically it comes down to laziness. see a long time ago I took apart one of my computers and modded it with a lego casing. but then recently I decided to take all that apart, by recently I guess I mean a month and a half ago. so then without the casing it is just a loose collection of electrical boards and wiring, with a tendency to overheat. so I have the fan pointed at it and set on medium. The idea is that at some point I want to build a lego rack mount system, and then I can change the cooling,  but as mentioned above - lazy.</p>

<p>actually now that I think of it there are about ten other things I need to do that are much more important than fixing this, I guess I will avoid doing all of them first.  </p>

<p>anyway it stays nice and cool. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November 12, 2005 12:20 PM by bryan&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>More Songs About Buildings and Food -- comment #10 from Randolph Fritz</title>
         <description>comment from Randolph Fritz on 12.Nov.05</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>'By the way, why does Tom Doherty keep the air conditioning on even during winter?'</p>

<p>These days, there's enough heat-producing equipment (in most offices to need it unless the outside temperatures drop very low.  Not sure if one can still open the windows or not, but it probably wouldn't be v. comfortable to keep them open in the winter, anyhow.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November 12, 2005 12:39 PM by Randolph Fritz&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>More Songs About Buildings and Food -- comment #11 from Linkmeister</title>
         <description>comment from Linkmeister on 12.Nov.05</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not one of the office buildings in Hawai'i has a song written about it, as far as I know.  However, they share one trait: the architects followed the Mainland trend and built 30-story buildings whose windows can't be opened.  In Hawai'i! </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November 12, 2005  1:27 PM by Linkmeister&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>More Songs About Buildings and Food -- comment #12 from Serge</title>
         <description>comment from Serge on 12.Nov.05</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeez... This makes Tom Doherty's office sound like the appartment of the math genius in the movie <b>PI</b>.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November 12, 2005  1:28 PM by Serge&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>More Songs About Buildings and Food -- comment #13 from Scott Lynch</title>
         <description>comment from Scott Lynch on 12.Nov.05</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apropos of absolutely nothing on this thread, John, I just wanted to say that I read <i>The Dragon Waiting</i> a week or two ago and had a really, really good time with it. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November 12, 2005  2:25 PM by Scott Lynch&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>More Songs About Buildings and Food -- comment #14 from Serge</title>
         <description>comment from Serge on 12.Nov.05</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bryan, the leggo casing for your computer reminds me of a desktop on display at a nearby computer-repair store where they also cobble their own for sale: one of them loks like the gas tank of a motorcycle - and it's bright red too.</p>

<p>If I trusted myself with electronics, I might try making one with transparent walls so that it'd look like the robot that pilots Gerry Anderson's starship <b>Fireball XL-5<b>.</b></b></p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November 12, 2005  2:26 PM by Serge&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>More Songs About Buildings and Food -- comment #15 from I.</title>
         <description>comment from I. on 12.Nov.05</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why air-condition in winter? If the Flatiron's steam heat is anything like it is in the building where I work, which is around the corner, it makes perfect sense. The office gets too hot by noon, and there's no way to turn the radiators off. If your windows happen to face south, as well (ours do), you're outright broiled.</p>

<p>We keep all our windows open as far as we can without our papers blowing away, and hoo-boy, do we wish we could turn on the A/C. It's been at least 85 degrees every day for the last week--hot enough that we have trouble focusing, hot enough that my officemate gets headaches, hot enough that every half hour or so someone (usually me) exclaims, "God DAMN, it's hot in here!" When you step in from the corridor, where it's about twenty degrees cooler, you can feel the shimmering wall of heat. It's disgusting.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November 12, 2005  2:35 PM by I.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>More Songs About Buildings and Food -- comment #16 from Madeleine Robins</title>
         <description>comment from Madeleine Robins on 13.Nov.05</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that was me, Serge, not Teresa.  I was Tom's assistant for almost five years.  Tom's metabolism is very efficient: he's always too hot.  Mine is sluggish; I'm always cold.  We got along splendidly except in matters of temperature.  With the Flatiron's old windows there was a lot of draft, and the building was that weird NYC combination of drafty and overheated.  Tom would frequently run his air conditioner in the winter; I, seated outside Tom's office at my desk, would load up on shawls and scarves as the icy air drifted out to my desk in the hall--where my big, leaky window permitted all the winds roaring down 5th Avenue to leak in.  (The fact that my desk was in the hall, where there were no walls to trap the heat and keep me warm, was a factor.)  So, yes.  Sometimes in the winter Tom kept his a/c on.  I don't know if he still does, but I do know that he still wears short sleeved shirts and sport jackets on snowy days.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November 13, 2005  2:09 AM by Madeleine Robins&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>More Songs About Buildings and Food -- comment #17 from Dave Luckett</title>
         <description>comment from Dave Luckett on 13.Nov.05</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've seen some buildings that should be knocked down:<br />
The Guggenheim looks like a dogturd downtown,<br />
There's that woodlouse in Glasgow, the Cube gives me fits,<br />
But the Opera House is the pits.</p>

<p>It looks like the teeth that got stripped from a saw,<br />
A handful of toenails dumped down by the shore,<br />
And the inside and outside are no way akin,<br />
Its only a box with fins.</p>

<p>Dear old Danish Utzon drew a pretty plan,<br />
And sold it right up to the hilt,<br />
But though the sails were mighty, he quite impolitely<br />
Forgot to say that it couldn't be built.</p>

<p>Useless in function and ornate in style,<br />
Each time there's a high wind, we have to retile.<br />
Every tile is a one-off, not one other fits.<br />
Oh the Opera House is the pits.     <br />
    </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November 13, 2005  8:08 AM by Dave Luckett&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>More Songs About Buildings and Food -- comment #18 from P J Evans</title>
         <description>comment from P J Evans on 13.Nov.05</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>However, they share one trait: the architects followed the Mainland trend and built 30-story buildings whose windows can't be opened. In Hawai'i!</i></p>

<p>My brother spent some time, several years ago, in Hawa'ii on business. At one point, he described the hotel room he was in as 'you could hang your hat on the breeze coming through the walls'. Whether the windows opened or not was another matter not discussed.</p>

<p>There is at least one office building in downtown LA with openable windows. I've seen them throwing desk calendar sheets (the little ones) out the window at New Year's. Those little pages can go a long way.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November 13, 2005  9:24 AM by P J Evans&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>More Songs About Buildings and Food -- comment #19 from Serge</title>
         <description>comment from Serge on 13.Nov.05</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Madeleine. Now I know that Tom Doherty doesn't suffer from the same affliction as Mister Freeze.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November 13, 2005 10:27 AM by Serge&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>More Songs About Buildings and Food -- comment #20 from Lonna</title>
         <description>comment from Lonna on 13.Jun.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone help me? I am looking for a poem John worte in a book called How much for just the planet. It is one about a princess who wants to marry a normal guy and is bored with all the suitors that have been sent to her so far.  There is suposed to be another one about an accountant??? Any one know whaere I can find these poems/ prose?? online??? Thanks. Lonna</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June 13, 2008  7:04 PM by Lonna&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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