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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #1 from Aconite</title>
         <description>comment from Aconite on 20.Jan.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p><i>Nothing very bad can happen to you</i></p>

<p>Hello.  My name is Aconite, and I clicked on one of the sidebar ads.  It put my eye out, but I'm discovering that life can be all kinds of two-dimensional fun, so it's all good.</p>
	 <p>Posted January 20, 2006  3:40 PM by Aconite</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #2 from Serge</title>
         <description>comment from Serge on 20.Jan.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p><i>Nothing very bad can happen to you...</i></p>

<p>Define 'bad'. Oh, and give a scale of the degreees of 'bad', with examples, so that we can tell what 'very' implies.</p>
	 <p>Posted January 20, 2006  4:24 PM by Serge</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #3 from P J Evans</title>
         <description>comment from P J Evans on 20.Jan.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Did! (and Lulu is very fast!)</p>
	 <p>Posted January 20, 2006  4:46 PM by P J Evans</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #4 from Janice in GA</title>
         <description>comment from Janice in GA on 20.Jan.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>I recommend Escape Pod.  Nothing bad has happened yet.</p>
	 <p>Posted January 20, 2006  5:15 PM by Janice in GA</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #5 from Nicole J. LeBoeuf-Little</title>
         <description>comment from Nicole J. LeBoeuf-Little on 20.Jan.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>"Yet" being, of course, the operative word.</p>

<p>(I second the Escape Pod recco.)</p>
	 <p>Posted January 20, 2006  5:31 PM by Nicole J. LeBoeuf-Little</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #6 from Steve Eley</title>
         <description>comment from Steve Eley on 20.Jan.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>I assure you, the Escape Pod ad is absolutely safe to click on.  Our researchers have subscribed <i>ten thousand</i> laboratory rats to the podcast feed, and not a single one of them developed any aberrant growths.</p>

<p>(Didn't hurt our download numbers, either.)  >8-></p>
	 <p>Posted January 20, 2006  5:56 PM by Steve Eley</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #7 from rhandir</title>
         <description>comment from rhandir on 20.Jan.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>You know that annoying thing that happens when you click to look at posts, and every once in a while (but sometimes several times successively) the page advances to a blank page with the first couple lines of ad text on it?</p>

<p>I, ah, found a workaround. It's an extension for firefox called noscript, which lets you selectively enable javascript by domain name.* This page for instance, has javascript included from blogads.com and nielsenhayden.com. When I disable blogads...</p>

<p>...well, you get the idea.</p>

<p>I'm sorry, mine hosts. I feel like I'm being a bad guest by not loading the ads.</p>

<p>-r.<br />
*this is a very good extension for user security purposes. By default javascript is off, so cross site scripting attacks don't work. You can selectively allow which sites you want to do what, and what kinds of alerts you want to have appear, if any.</p>
	 <p>Posted January 20, 2006  7:20 PM by rhandir</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #8 from Jacob Davies</title>
         <description>comment from Jacob Davies on 20.Jan.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Ack, I don't want to be the Comic Book Guy who's all "I Have Forever Blocked All Ads From Entering My Consciousness" but I literally read that post and thought, "Ads?  What ads?"  After checking, I do unfortunately use Adblock to block anything from blogads.com.</p>

<p>How about a Paypal link?  (Unless I have somehow blocked one out that already exists, in which case I will feel doubly stupid.) I know some people don't like to post one because it feels weird to just ask for cash (not that I am saying that is your feeling!), but if so maybe you can have a special Making Light "subscriptions" account it goes into along with the blogads fees.</p>

<p>If there was a way to make a recurring periodic payment (Paypal doesn't seem to have it) that would be better yet.  Not that I am some great philanthropist, but I can never remember who I gave money to & when.</p>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #9 from Patrick Nielsen Hayden</title>
         <description>comment from Patrick Nielsen Hayden on 20.Jan.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>I personally recommend Jim and Debra's Peter Crossman stories, which are in fact almost more fun than mere humanity can bear.</p>
	 <p>Posted January 20, 2006 11:15 PM by Patrick Nielsen Hayden</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #10 from Mez</title>
         <description>comment from Mez on 20.Jan.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>There is some way to do periodic payments/subscriptions on paypay [Darn! But I do like that typo.] I get a monthly email receipt from them for an online project I'm supporting.  </p>

<p>Possibly the receipient has to set it up specially.  Anyway, it's not out of the realm of possibilities.  Even if not for here, it might be an idea for other people who might consider it for their onlinearity.</p>
	 <p>Posted January 20, 2006 11:19 PM by Mez</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #11 from John M. Ford</title>
         <description>comment from John M. Ford on 21.Jan.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p><i>It put my eye out, but I'm discovering that life can be all kinds of two-dimensional fun, so it's all good.</i></p>

<p>Your two ravens will be dispatched shortly.  Please do not object when, on arrival, they test your monocular vision (through means that are only briefly terrifying), as many questionable requests are received.  Their names are Smartass and Google, though you may change this if you prefer.</p>

<p>Yours sincerely,<br />
loki@beefroast.no</p>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #12 from mk</title>
         <description>comment from mk on 21.Jan.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>I clicked the ad for the Peter Crossman collection and am now waiting for Lulu to process my payment.  $0.72!  Why, it didn't hurt at all!  </p>

<p>...although the waiting is beginning to itch.</p>
	 <p>Posted January 21, 2006  1:59 AM by mk</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #13 from Fragano Ledgister</title>
         <description>comment from Fragano Ledgister on 21.Jan.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>For some reason, my mind processed 'Paypal Link' as 'Papal Link' and I wondered what Peter's Pence had to do with it.</p>
	 <p>Posted January 21, 2006 11:13 AM by Fragano Ledgister</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #14 from casey</title>
         <description>comment from casey on 21.Jan.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>OK, not a comment on the ads, but I noticed that the copyright notice might need updating?  </p>
	 <p>Posted January 21, 2006 11:37 AM by casey</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #15 from TexAnne</title>
         <description>comment from TexAnne on 21.Jan.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Fragano: well, 72 of them will get you a nifty book on monasticism.</p>
	 <p>Posted January 21, 2006  4:44 PM by TexAnne</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #16 from P J Evans</title>
         <description>comment from P J Evans on 21.Jan.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>TexAnen:Make that <i>militant</i> monasticism.</p>

<p>I heard a guy on the train the other morning saying he was doing research on the Knights of Templars. He hasn't done nearly enough research, IMHO.</p>
	 <p>Posted January 21, 2006  4:54 PM by P J Evans</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #17 from Fragano Ledgister</title>
         <description>comment from Fragano Ledgister on 21.Jan.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Thanks for the suggestion, TexAnne.</p>

<p>PJ: The Knights of Templars might be a society set up by the children of 'The Saint'.</p>
	 <p>Posted January 21, 2006  5:11 PM by Fragano Ledgister</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #18 from P J Evans</title>
         <description>comment from P J Evans on 21.Jan.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Okay, I'll go along. Didn't know he had any children, but then there's a lot of books I haven't read.</p>
	 <p>Posted January 21, 2006  5:24 PM by P J Evans</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #19 from Fragano Ledgister</title>
         <description>comment from Fragano Ledgister on 21.Jan.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>PJ: There are a lot I haven't read either, but I don't recall children in any of them. ST, however, was sexually active, so they are a likelihood in that space between the text and reality that characters seem to inhabit when we aren't reading about them. </p>
	 <p>Posted January 21, 2006  8:19 PM by Fragano Ledgister</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #20 from Sisuile</title>
         <description>comment from Sisuile on 23.Jan.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>John, that hurt.</p>

<p>And now, I need to go explain to the lab tech that I'm really very sorry I got water all over the keyboard and screen and will he forgive me and not ban me from the labs? *sigh* i should know better than to be drinking anything while reading this blog.</p>
	 <p>Posted January 23, 2006  2:28 PM by Sisuile</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #21 from EClaire sees spam</title>
         <description>comment from EClaire sees spam on  7.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>I wonder if Rush Limbaugh has seen this one... He might find it useful.</p>
	 <p>Posted September  7, 2008  2:34 PM by EClaire sees spam</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #22 from abi</title>
         <description>comment from abi on  7.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>He'll have to find his own source.  Gone, and thanks.</p>
	 <p>Posted September  7, 2008  3:16 PM by abi</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #23 from Summer Storms sees pharmaceutical spam</title>
         <description>comment from Summer Storms sees pharmaceutical spam on  7.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Uh oh, someone's trying to sell us something...</p>
	 <p>Posted September  7, 2008 10:47 PM by Summer Storms sees pharmaceutical spam</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #24 from Serge</title>
         <description>comment from Serge on  8.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p><b>EClaire</b> @ 21... Last year, after my youngest newphew was born, I mentionned to his mother that he has the same birhday as Rush, and she exclaimed "Gross!"</p>
	 <p>Posted September  8, 2008  9:02 AM by Serge</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #25 from abi</title>
         <description>comment from abi on  8.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Gone.</p>
	 <p>Posted September  8, 2008  2:09 PM by abi</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #26 from Jon Meltzer sees a message from our spammers</title>
         <description>comment from Jon Meltzer sees a message from our spammers on 13.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Gone soon?</p>
	 <p>Posted September 13, 2008 12:27 PM by Jon Meltzer sees a message from our spammers</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #27 from Terry Karney sees spam breeding </title>
         <description>comment from Terry Karney sees spam breeding  on 13.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Right here, right now (and it's ugly)</p>
	 <p>Posted September 13, 2008 12:27 PM by Terry Karney sees spam breeding </p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #28 from abi</title>
         <description>comment from abi on 13.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p><em>An' he writed this here: "Muster Flannigan:<br />
Off agin, on agin,<br />
Gone agin. - Finnigin."</em></p>
	 <p>Posted September 13, 2008  1:01 PM by abi</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #29 from Ginger sees spam here</title>
         <description>comment from Ginger sees spam here on 13.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Spam spam spam spammity spam spam..above.</p>
	 <p>Posted September 13, 2008  4:48 PM by Ginger sees spam here</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #30 from Terry sees persistent attempts to put spam</title>
         <description>comment from Terry sees persistent attempts to put spam on 13.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>And the hits just keep on coming.</p>
	 <p>Posted September 13, 2008  4:57 PM by Terry sees persistent attempts to put spam</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #31 from abi</title>
         <description>comment from abi on 13.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p><em>And the hits just keep on coming.</em></p>

<p>And going, much like a karma chameleon.</p>
	 <p>Posted September 13, 2008  5:14 PM by abi</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #32 from P J Evans</title>
         <description>comment from P J Evans on 13.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Maybe the thread name is attracting them.</p>
	 <p>Posted September 13, 2008  5:37 PM by P J Evans</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #33 from Jon Meltzer</title>
         <description>comment from Jon Meltzer on 13.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>They really want to spam us. They really want to make us cry. </p>
	 <p>Posted September 13, 2008  5:59 PM by Jon Meltzer</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #34 from liza</title>
         <description>comment from liza on 13.Sep.08</description>
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	 <p>Posted September 13, 2008  6:40 PM by liza</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #35 from Mary Aileen sees more spam</title>
         <description>comment from Mary Aileen sees more spam on 13.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Time to close this thread?</p>
	 <p>Posted September 13, 2008  6:55 PM by Mary Aileen sees more spam</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #36 from john</title>
         <description>comment from john on 13.Sep.08</description>
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	 <p>Posted September 13, 2008  7:03 PM by john</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #37 from P J Evans sees still more spam</title>
         <description>comment from P J Evans sees still more spam on 13.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>I suppose that changing the thread name might discourage them. Or at least confuse them a little.</p>
	 <p>Posted September 13, 2008  7:07 PM by P J Evans sees still more spam</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #38 from kris</title>
         <description>comment from kris on 13.Sep.08</description>
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	 <p>Posted September 13, 2008 10:44 PM by kris</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>And now, a message from our sponsors -- comment #39 from Vicki sees yet more spam</title>
         <description>comment from Vicki sees yet more spam on 13.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>I think it may be time to close this thread, alas.</p>
	 <p>Posted September 13, 2008 10:57 PM by Vicki sees yet more spam</p></content:encoded>
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