Dori's good. She and Tom Negrino wrote the best book on javascript for people learning it who want to actually use it, and the new edition talks about Ajax too.

Dori will JavaScript and Ajax for the Web be out by World Con?

Posted August 14, 2006 11:20 AM by Lisa Spangenberg

Hurray for Dori!

Posted August 14, 2006 11:27 AM by Cathy

Much appreciation for Dori's expertise and for the compromise of the NielsenHayden team!

:::removes glasses::

Posted August 14, 2006 11:31 AM by a.a.johnston

Thank you, Dori. Thank you thank you thank you.

Peace in our time!

Posted August 14, 2006 11:44 AM by Teresa Nielsen Hayden

Um. What selector? Asks the man running Opera v8.54, who doesn't see one.

---L.

Posted August 14, 2006 11:45 AM by L.N. Hammer

L. N., look at the right hand column, at the top. There's a sentence which reads "Choose: smaller type (our default)or larger type." I clicked on "larger type" and behold, the text enlarged! Thank you, Dori! Thank you, Patrick and Teresa.

Posted August 14, 2006 11:51 AM by Lizzy L

Works like a charm. So little a thing to promote marital harmony and good ocular health!

Posted August 14, 2006 11:59 AM by Madeleine Robins

Wow! Dori Smith! You guys know all the cool people. And I'm only 37, but I'm selecting the larger type option, so thank you for this additional functionality.

Posted August 14, 2006 12:04 PM by marrije

Works beautifully in Opera 9.01

Posted August 14, 2006 12:26 PM by Andrew Brown

The weblog aggregator Kinja (www.kinja.com) suddenly seems to think your site is called "Set Style".

Not sure what's acting up there.

Posted August 14, 2006 12:37 PM by Dave Lartigue

Works on Safari 2.0.4!

Thanks!

Posted August 14, 2006 12:40 PM by Nancy C

Ah, there. Top of the column in a post page, but kida buried on the main. Thanks.

Yup -- works in Opera 8.54.

---L.

Posted August 14, 2006 12:59 PM by L.N. Hammer

It works with Konqueror 3.5.4, but -- to my considerable amusement -- my browser minimum font size is at least as large are your large font size, so it doesn't change the reading experience in any detectable way.

Posted August 14, 2006 1:00 PM by Graydon

Very nice! And it works for the comments, too. Less squinting all around. Thanks!

Posted August 14, 2006 1:07 PM by Deborah Roggie

Windows Firefox 1.5.0.4 - the first time I clicked on "larger type" it set large type for a few seconds, then reverted. I tried again and after that it stayed as I'd set it.

Is good.

Posted August 14, 2006 1:08 PM by Julia Jones

"The weblog aggregator Kinja (www.kinja.com) suddenly seems to think your site is called 'Set Style'."

So it does; how odd. I've written to them to see if they can fix it at their end.

Posted August 14, 2006 1:28 PM by Patrick Nielsen Hayden

Where did you get MSIE 6.5?

Posted August 14, 2006 1:35 PM by Aaron Adams

Lisa asked:

...will JavaScript and Ajax for the Web be out by World Con?

Probably not. Peachpit Press is amazingly fast at printing (for a computer book publisher), but the book just went off to the printer last Friday evening, just moments after we finished cutting out some silly choices made by the indexer. I think we'll get our hot-off-the-press copy around the 28th, right after Worldcon.

Oh, and hello. I don't think I've posted here before. I'm Dori's husband, her co-author on the JavaScript book, and the other lobe of Backup Brain, our shared blog.

Posted August 14, 2006 1:41 PM by Tom Negrino

Choice of font size test with M$ Internet Explorer 6.0.2800.1106CO, SP1 with Q833989;Q823353;Q903235

Click on homepage. Check.
Click on random comments. Auto-resize. Check.
Click on random Archive. Auto-resize. Check.
Click on random comments in random Archive. Auto-resize. Check.

Close Browser and re-open. Settings retained. Check.

Seems to work for me here at the office as designed. I'll check when I get home (I'm running IE 7.0 Beta there)

Posted August 14, 2006 1:42 PM by Duncan J Macdonald

Thank you! Works like a charm, and much easier on the eyes!

Posted August 14, 2006 2:14 PM by Betsey Langan

Ah — lovely! Many thanks to Dori for fixing the stylesheet.

Posted August 14, 2006 2:38 PM by Lexica

Thanks! Much easier to read.

Now if only Dori could do something about the slabs of gray everywhere.

Posted August 14, 2006 2:48 PM by Greg Ioannou

"Where did you get MSIE 6.5?"

Slip of the brain. I meant 6.0.

Posted August 14, 2006 3:02 PM by Patrick Nielsen Hayden

Okay, the small text fans should testify for Teresa's sake. I do understand the love of having many words before you.

But Mr. Reading Glasses just says, "Thanks, Dori!"

Posted August 14, 2006 4:24 PM by will shetterly

THANK YOU!

Posted August 14, 2006 5:21 PM by Lila

Your "light" page (/makinglight/content.html) has no styling at all now.

Posted August 14, 2006 6:11 PM by Mike Kozlowski

I never minded the little text, but marital harmony is always a good thing, so add my kudos to the pile.

Posted August 14, 2006 6:48 PM by Chris Quinones

While you're changing templates, do you think you could add the link to the alternate for your atom feed:
http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/atom.xml
as well as the truncated RSS one?
http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/index.rdf
It would make Technorati's task of indexing you much easier

Put
<link rel="alternate" type="application/atom+xml" title="Atom" href="http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/atom.xml" />

in the <head> (this will also make discovering your full-posts feed easier for other tools).

Posted August 14, 2006 7:05 PM by Kevin Marks

As promised, from home:

Choice of font size test with M$ Internet Explorer 7.0.5112 Update Version Beta 1
Click on homepage. Check.
Click on random comments. Auto-resize. Check.
Click on random Archive. Auto-resize. Check.
Click on random comments in random Archive. Auto-resize. Check.

Close Browser and re-open. Settings retained. Check.

The Archives for Electrolyte do not, however, respond.

Just an an aside, at my resolution (1280 x 1024)the difference in font size is negligible. Since I'm of Teresa's opinion when it comes to screen real-estate, I vote for keeping the smaller font. Now, I just need to get the powers that be to change to a serif font ...

Posted August 14, 2006 7:48 PM by Duncan J Macdonald

I have IE 6.0 (sorry, but the others I've tried just irritate me with the organization of their toolbars -- though Firefox is less irritating than the others), and I have retention of preference and I have the larger font in archive pages too. Did you do something new to it since this morning?

It's really lovely. Thank you.

Posted August 14, 2006 7:57 PM by Lucy Kemnitzer

I love you, Dori Smith! My eyes love you! My monitor loves you! Thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou.

Posted August 14, 2006 8:44 PM by FranW

Hmmm. I'm seeing an anomaly in the comments with the Large Type option on.

* Set "Large"
* Return to home page
* Click on a "recent comments" link
* Browser goes to selected comment showing small type
* Broswer resizes font but does not reposition
* Selected comment is now way, below where the window is, often requiring scrolling

Using Windows XP SP2 (Tablet)
IE 7.0.5346.5 (Beta)

Posted August 14, 2006 9:33 PM by Larry Brennan

Hmmm - I have the exact same problem with Mac OS X 10.4.7 and Firefox 1.5.0.6.

I don't know anything about web programming, but perhaps the font size should change before moving down to the tag for the comment?

Posted August 14, 2006 10:55 PM by Larry Brennan

51 years and counting likes large type.

Thanks, Dori.

Posted August 14, 2006 11:05 PM by Steven Gould

To all above who said thanks: you're very welcome!

For those who are wondering about the book being referred to, it's this one. Sadly, it should be out just after WorldCon, so I won't have any copies with me there. [P&T, if including that link is out of line, feel free to delete it or to add affiliate info.]

marrije: I don't think that I've been referred to before as one of "the cool people" -- yikes! But actually, I don't know P or T, so for compensation I asked Patrick if we could meet at Worldcon. [If I can find my copy of Making Book, maybe getting it signed might also be possible? After all, Teresa did say "Thank you" four times...].

Dave Lartigue: that bad title is because for a bit there yesterday while Patrick was trying to make it work, there were two title tags. I fixed that along with my other changes, but I'm not surprised that it confused other systems.

Greg Ioannou: I posted the B on W bookmarklet in the other thread, but here it is again for you.

will shetterly: My name is Dori, and I'm a small text fan... Actually, that's how I ended up writing the original text changer we have over on our blog. I like small sans but Tom likes large serif -- a style changer means a happy household.

Mike Kozlowski: it looks like the template for that page needs to be updated. Patrick, you'll want to change:

<link rel="stylesheet" href="http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/newstyle2.css" type="text/css" />

in the <head> area to:

<link rel="stylesheet" href="/makinglight/common/newstyle1.css" type="text/css" />
<link rel="stylesheet" href="/makinglight/common/newstyle2.css" type="text/css" />

unless you want to add the style switcher in as well, in which case you want to make the last change:

<link rel="stylesheet" href="/makinglight/common/newstyle1.css" type="text/css" />
<link rel="stylesheet" href="/makinglight/common/newstyle2.css" type="text/css" />
<link rel="stylesheet" href="/makinglight/common/newstyle3.css" type="text/css" />

plus add this somewhere on the page:

Choose: <a href="#" onclick="setActiveStylesheet('smaller');return false;">smaller type (our default)</a>, or <a href="#" onclick="setActiveStylesheet('larger');return false;">larger type</a>

Duncan: I'm not sure about the Electrolite archives. Patrick may have to add the above there, also.

Larry: Hmmm. That's a good question -- the page goes to its correct place on the screen and the fonts then get resized. I suspect that if you reload the page you'd end up at the right place, but that's not really a long term solution, is it? The scrolling-down part is handled by the browser so I can't change when that happens via JavaScript. I'll have to think about this, but I'm not sure there's a good answer (although it should appear to improve once the styles are cached, in theory).

Posted August 14, 2006 11:55 PM by Dori

Thanks, that's much better! Even your "large" option, however, is much smaller than ideal for me - it's maybe two font sizes smaller than my default font. Could we have an "extra large" option for those of us with big high resolution monitors?

Posted August 15, 2006 3:13 AM by Danny Yee

I just wanted to inform the hosts that the "view all by" search also produces a title of "Set Style." There may be others, 'grep' will tell you which ones.

And I am a small-text fan myself, who actually reduces tnh's default by one step (firefox).

Posted August 15, 2006 7:34 AM by Stephan Brun

The single-column page has been fixed.

Posted August 15, 2006 8:17 AM by Patrick Nielsen Hayden

Dori: you're a WaSP! Of course you're cool!

Posted August 15, 2006 10:46 AM by marrije

Awesome. Rad. Kewl. Ods bodkins. Increasing the font size myself had always worked OK, but not messing up the layout works even better. Thanks. Soon we were going to have to rename Whisperado the Blind Boys of Brooklyn.

Posted August 15, 2006 3:52 PM by Jon Sobel