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      <description>Eric Alterman's been fired by MSNBC. He's going over to MediaMatters....</description>
      <content:encoded>Eric Alterman's been fired by MSNBC. He's going over to MediaMatters....</content:encoded>
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         <title>Aw, bugger -- comment #1 from mcc</title>
         <description>comment from mcc on 11.Sep.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>It's a little bit hard to tell from the text-- was he fired *because* of this column?</p>
	 <p>Posted September 11, 2006 11:14 PM by mcc</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Aw, bugger -- comment #2 from Dave MB</title>
         <description>comment from Dave MB on 11.Sep.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>He says in the text that he reads reports and hears rumors that it's a political decision by GE/NBC, but has no way of knowing whether it's true because he's never had input from above about it.  He sort of has to have been fired because of the column, I think, because the column was what he was doing for them.</p>

<p>If there are limits to how much dissent GE/NBC/MSNBC is willing to sponsor, our new hero Keith Olberman is doing a good job of testing them.  Of course his ratings are up, and perhaps either Alterman was not making much money for them or there was little way to measure what he was making.</p>
	 <p>Posted September 11, 2006 11:32 PM by Dave MB</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Aw, bugger -- comment #3 from Jon Meltzer</title>
         <description>comment from Jon Meltzer on 11.Sep.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Glenn Reynolds was supposedly fired, too. </p>
	 <p>Posted September 11, 2006 11:42 PM by Jon Meltzer</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Aw, bugger -- comment #4 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden</title>
         <description>comment from Teresa Nielsen Hayden on 12.Sep.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3395977/" rel="nofollow">And so he is.</a></p>
	 <p>Posted September 12, 2006  2:07 AM by Teresa Nielsen Hayden</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Aw, bugger -- comment #5 from Linkmeister</title>
         <description>comment from Linkmeister on 12.Sep.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Both of those guys? At the same time?  That's odd.  Presumably they're not huge payroll expenses to MSNBC.</p>

<p>Wasn't there some news a while back that Microsoft was bailing out of the collaboration?  I wonder if that has something to do with it (if my memory is right and that's accurate).</p>
	 <p>Posted September 12, 2006  3:02 AM by Linkmeister</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Aw, bugger -- comment #6 from Linkmeister</title>
         <description>comment from Linkmeister on 12.Sep.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Hmm.  I'm not quite right.  Here's a January '06 <i>Broadcasting and Cable</i> <a href="http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6295750.html?display=News" rel="nofollow">story</a> about NBC buying out Microsoft's stake in the TV part of MSNBC, but it says the dotcom portion of the partnership is doing well.  Neither Reynolds nor Alterman had shows on the network (now there's a dreadful thought: Glenn Reynolds on your TV every afternoon for an hour), so the buyout shouldn't have had an impact on their web columns.</p>
	 <p>Posted September 12, 2006  3:07 AM by Linkmeister</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Aw, bugger -- comment #7 from Rasselas</title>
         <description>comment from Rasselas on 12.Sep.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Maybe his prediliction for being addressed as "Dr." offended GE's sensibilities.</p>
	 <p>Posted September 12, 2006 11:17 AM by Rasselas</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Aw, bugger -- comment #8 from Marilee</title>
         <description>comment from Marilee on 12.Sep.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>And on the other side, Michael Gerson is going to be a new op-ed columnist for the WashPost.  The man who wrote some of Bush's "best" speeches will now be in the newspaper.</p>
	 <p>Posted September 12, 2006  8:40 PM by Marilee</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Aw, bugger -- comment #9 from JulieB</title>
         <description>comment from JulieB on 12.Sep.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>I wouldn't read anything political into this right now. I have a background in broadcasting, and TPB can come up with the most idiotic reasons for letting people go. It may be money, or it may be that some executive had a bad lobster at lunch. I've seen more WTF-type reasons than that. </p>

<p>Often things like this fall under the umbrella of "time for a change." I didn't always agree with either of those guys, but they made for interesting reading.</p>
	 <p>Posted September 12, 2006  9:53 PM by JulieB</p></content:encoded>
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