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      <description>Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame, With conquering limbs and trunkless legs of stone Here at our sea-washed,...</description>
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         <title>American tune -- comment #1 from Lizzy L</title>
         <description>comment from Lizzy L on 30.Sep.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Would it be quibbling if I were to point out that "sunset gates"  seems, while poetically consistent, factually errant?</p>

<p>***people hurl shoes, pots, bricks***</p>

<p>Sorry.</p>
	 <p>Posted September 30, 2006  4:24 PM by Lizzy L</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>American tune -- comment #2 from Sean Bosker</title>
         <description>comment from Sean Bosker on 30.Sep.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p><a href="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v385/GMSkarka/Editorial.jpg" rel="nofollow"> Relevent image, work safe. </a></p>
	 <p>Posted September 30, 2006  5:13 PM by Sean Bosker</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>American tune -- comment #3 from Fragano Ledgister</title>
         <description>comment from Fragano Ledgister on 30.Sep.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>For much of the twentieth century, some Americans, fleeing racism and seeking opportunity, found a home  in the place where the Statue of Liberty was made. At least one, Josephine Baker, was honoured by the state for her contribution to the defence of its liberty.</p>
	 <p>Posted September 30, 2006  5:29 PM by Fragano Ledgister</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>American tune -- comment #4 from j h woodyatt</title>
         <description>comment from j h woodyatt on 30.Sep.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Ah yes, we are living on the Planet of the Domesticated North African Plains Apes.</p>
	 <p>Posted September 30, 2006  5:47 PM by j h woodyatt</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>American tune -- comment #5 from Lis Riba</title>
         <description>comment from Lis Riba on 30.Sep.06</description>
         <content:encoded><blockquote>First they came for the fourth amendment,<br />and I did not speak out, because I didn't deal drugs.<br />Then they came for the fifth amendment,<br />and I was silent because I owned no property involved in crimes.<br />Then they came for the sixth amendment,<br />and I did not protest because I was innocent.<br />Then they came for the second amendment,<br />and I said nothing because I didn't own a gun.<br />And then they came for the first amendment,<br />and I could say nothing at all.</blockquote>by Anonymous<br />found on the internet
	 <p>Posted September 30, 2006 10:23 PM by Lis Riba</p></content:encoded>
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         <pubDate>Sat, 30 Sep 2006 22:23:17 -0500</pubDate>
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         <title>American tune -- comment #6 from Jon Baker</title>
         <description>comment from Jon Baker on 30.Sep.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Brooklyn, boro of immigrants, is east of the Statue of Liberty, so "sunset gates" doesn't sound that inappropriate.</p>
	 <p>Posted September 30, 2006 10:33 PM by Jon Baker</p></content:encoded>
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         <pubDate>Sat, 30 Sep 2006 22:33:57 -0500</pubDate>
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         <title>American tune -- comment #7 from Scraps</title>
         <description>comment from Scraps on 30.Sep.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Damn.</p>
	 <p>Posted September 30, 2006 10:45 PM by Scraps</p></content:encoded>
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         <pubDate>Sat, 30 Sep 2006 22:45:11 -0500</pubDate>
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         <title>American tune -- comment #8 from Keir</title>
         <description>comment from Keir on 30.Sep.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>La liberté qui éclairait le monde.</p>
	 <p>Posted September 30, 2006 11:22 PM by Keir</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>American tune -- comment #9 from Patrick Nielsen Hayden</title>
         <description>comment from Patrick Nielsen Hayden on 30.Sep.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>From where I live in Brooklyn, the sun frequently sets right behind the S of L.</p>
	 <p>Posted September 30, 2006 11:54 PM by Patrick Nielsen Hayden</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>American tune -- comment #10 from Avram</title>
         <description>comment from Avram on  1.Oct.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>The Statue of Liberty is in the direction of the sunset, looked at from Europe, or boats coming over the Atlantic. </p>

<p>The <i>Planet of the Apes</i> angle didn't occur to me till a few hours after I'd posted it. Just as well; if it had, I'd probably have tried to shoehorn in some kind of clumsy "You maniacs, you blew it up!"/habeus corpus imagery. </p>
	 <p>Posted October  1, 2006  2:07 AM by Avram</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>American tune -- comment #11 from Lizzy L</title>
         <description>comment from Lizzy L on  1.Oct.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Avram, I love the poem. But I'm 3000 miles to the west. Everything except Hawaii and bits of Alaska is east of me. It was a teeny weeny yellow polka dot quibble. </p>
	 <p>Posted October  1, 2006 10:32 AM by Lizzy L</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>American tune -- comment #12 from Kip W</title>
         <description>comment from Kip W on  1.Oct.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>I saw the "first they came for the fourth amendment" in the 90s in a letter to the Norfolk _Pilot_. I was impressed. At the time, I thought it was original, but who can say? I clipped it. If I happen upon it again, I'll note the letter writer's name.</p>
	 <p>Posted October  1, 2006 10:53 AM by Kip W</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>American tune -- comment #13 from Kip W</title>
         <description>comment from Kip W on  1.Oct.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Avram, that's brilliant. I wish to hell there'd been no need for you to write it.</p>
	 <p>Posted October  1, 2006 10:54 AM by Kip W</p></content:encoded>
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         <pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2006 10:54:34 -0500</pubDate>
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         <title>American tune -- comment #14 from Avram</title>
         <description>comment from Avram on  1.Oct.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Lizzy, are you aware that the "sunset gates" phrase is from one of the two <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Colossus" rel="nofollow">source</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozymandias" rel="nofollow">poems</a>? </p>
	 <p>Posted October  1, 2006  2:26 PM by Avram</p></content:encoded>
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         <pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2006 14:26:24 -0500</pubDate>
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         <title>American tune -- comment #15 from Professor Zero</title>
         <description>comment from Professor Zero on  4.Oct.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>I came to say what Kip W already said: <br />
"Avram, that's brilliant. I wish to hell there'd been no need for you to write it."  </p>
	 <p>Posted October  4, 2006 10:55 PM by Professor Zero</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>American tune -- comment #16 from Professor Zero</title>
         <description>comment from Professor Zero on  4.Oct.06</description>
         <content:encoded><p>I came to say what Kip W already said: <br />
"Avram, that's brilliant. I wish to hell there'd been no need for you to write it."  </p>
	 <p>Posted October  4, 2006 11:21 PM by Professor Zero</p></content:encoded>
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