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      <description>You'll recall this same accident discussed earlier in Making Light. Now, from today's The News and Sentinel: Police Still Investigating...</description>
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         <title>Hit and Run, Redux -- comment #1 from Dave MB</title>
         <description>comment from Dave MB on 19.Jan.07</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't want to distract from the serious purpose of this entry, but if linguistic trivia isn't on-topic for this blog then nothing is.</p>

<p>The article you quote wrote "Coos County" with a diaresis (a double dot, like an umlaut) over the second "o".  Normally this means that a pair of vowels that might otherwise be a dipthong is split.  You sometimes see a diaresis over the second "o" in "cooperate", and I remember from school Latin that there was one over the "e" in the Greek name "Danae", because "ae" is normally a dipthong in Latin but it isn't in that word.</p>

<p>The county's name rhymes with "goose", doesn't it?  They've spelled it as if it were pronounced "coe-oss".  But maybe it is?  I'm in the next state over but I don't recall ever <i>hearing</i> the name.<br />
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	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 19, 2007 10:44 AM by Dave MB&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hit and Run, Redux -- comment #2 from Kelley Shimmin</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Wikipedia (which I realize is only as in the know as whoever writes in it), it is Coos County, pronounced /ˈko.ɑs/ with two syllables.  </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 19, 2007 11:33 AM by Kelley Shimmin&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hit and Run, Redux -- comment #3 from Debra Doyle</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's pronounced, as the diaresis would indicate, "Coe-oss."  (There's a Coos County in Oregon, as well, but I have no idea how the folks there pronounce it.  Different place anyhow.)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 19, 2007 11:36 AM by Debra Doyle&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hit and Run, Redux -- comment #4 from Silverfox</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In German you'd pronounce it co-oes ö standing for pronounciation as diphtong oe.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 19, 2007 11:50 AM by Silverfox&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hit and Run, Redux -- comment #5 from Dave MB</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool!  So the diaresis wasn't a misprint or mistake.  Thanks!</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 19, 2007 11:51 AM by Dave MB&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hit and Run, Redux -- comment #6 from P J Evans</title>
         <description>comment from P J Evans on 19.Jan.07</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one is Oregon rhymes with 'goose', AFAIK. (Although on thinking about it, I'm not sure I've ever heard it pronounced by anyone from that area.)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 19, 2007 12:02 PM by P J Evans&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hit and Run, Redux -- comment #7 from James D. Macdonald</title>
         <description>comment from James D. Macdonald on 19.Jan.07</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'd say the pronunciation is more like <i>Co-has,</i> but that's just my New York ear trying to phoneticize a northern New England dialect.  (I can't even do the local pronunciation of "sure.")</p>

<p>Meantime, if you are related to the gentleman, or know someone who is, the hospital would like to hear from you.</p>

<p>And if you know who was driving that car, or where the car might be, the police would like to hear from you.</p>

<p>The gentleman had absolutely frightening injuries.<br />
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	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 19, 2007 12:37 PM by James D. Macdonald&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hit and Run, Redux -- comment #8 from Xopher</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>In German you'd pronounce it co-oes ö standing for pronounciation as diphtong oe.</i></p>

<p>German does not indicate diphthong oe with '&ouml;'. '&Ouml;' is used to indicate a round mid front vowel (whereas 'o' indicates a round mid back vowel).  A diphthong is, as the name implies, two vowels; /&ouml;/ is a single vowel, albeit one that does not exist in English, and one that is frequently taught in American classes by instructing pupils to say /o/ and /e/ (as in bet) simultaneously.    </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 19, 2007  1:33 PM by Xopher&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hit and Run, Redux -- comment #9 from Xopher</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of linguistic trivia...that's one of those words that gets reanalyzed to suit English.  In English, a syllable cannot start with /f&theta;/ (where &theta; is the initial sound in English 'thing').  So the word gets pronounced /dip'&theta;o(ng)/, which sounds like a very small bathing suit.  In fact the 'di-' is the same one as in 'dihydrogen monoxide', and 'phthong' is the Greek word for vowel. So it should be /di'f&theta;o(ng)/ or perhaps /di'f&theta;ong/ (with an /n/ and /g/ rather than /(ng)/ which is how I'm writing the ending sound of 'ending'.</p>

<p>I have discussed before how a similar phenomenon led me to misanalyze 'helicopter' for years.  It's from 'helico-' "spiral" and 'pter' "wing."  </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 19, 2007  1:44 PM by Xopher&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hit and Run, Redux -- comment #10 from kate</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concord? Has this been stuck in places like the _Democrat_ and the _Union Leader_? (I dunno if Concord has a newspaper. I can't imagine it doesn't, I just don't know it.)</p>

<p>Because no offense meant to the _News and Sentinel_, but it is somewhat more... local than those other two.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 19, 2007  1:49 PM by kate&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hit and Run, Redux -- comment #11 from James D. Macdonald</title>
         <description>comment from James D. Macdonald on 19.Jan.07</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The Concord Monitor</i> is Concord's paper.</p>

<p>I have no idea where the state police have put notices.  Perhaps in the <i>Union Leader</i>, perhaps in the <i>Concord Monitor</i>, perhaps in <i>The Boston Globe</i>.  Perhaps not.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 19, 2007  2:29 PM by James D. Macdonald&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hit and Run, Redux -- comment #12 from Connie H.</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like it would be a good subject for a Letter to the Editor for the Union-Leader....</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 19, 2007  2:41 PM by Connie H.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hit and Run, Redux -- comment #13 from Lizzy L</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Mr. Corriveau's condition improved, at all? It's been two months.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 19, 2007  2:58 PM by Lizzy L&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hit and Run, Redux -- comment #14 from theophylact</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xopher, maybe you can't start an <i>English</i> syllable with /fθ/, but you sure can start a <i>chemical</i> one; "phthalate" is a good example.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 19, 2007  3:14 PM by theophylact&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hit and Run, Redux -- comment #15 from Xopher</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right.  And most English speakers would stumble over that.  And 'naphthalene' is usually pronounced with a p before the &theta;.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 19, 2007  3:51 PM by Xopher&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hit and Run, Redux -- comment #16 from Mary Aileen</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And 'ophthalmologist' is usually pronounced 'opthamologist'.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 19, 2007  4:11 PM by Mary Aileen&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hit and Run, Redux -- comment #17 from Abby</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IME, the "phth" sound is not hard to make in English if you think of the syllable division as coming in the middle of it. So, for example,</p>

<p>diff-thong<br />
diff-theria<br />
off-tha-mologist (oddly, the f-th sound is easy for me, but the "al-mol" sound is hard)</p>

<p>But fthay-late is harder, since the "f" can't naturally be moved to an earlier syllable.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 19, 2007  4:57 PM by Abby&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hit and Run, Redux -- comment #18 from Wristle</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me that phthistic is a perfectly good English word, if a bit arcane.  Richard FArine used in repeatedly in <i>Been Down So Long, Looks Like Up To Me</i>.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 19, 2007  5:14 PM by Wristle&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hit and Run, Redux -- comment #19 from theophylact</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except that it's usually pronounced "tisick"...</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 19, 2007  6:07 PM by theophylact&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hit and Run, Redux -- comment #20 from Julie L.</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a running disagreement with my husband about whether to pronounce the second P in "apoptosis".</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 19, 2007  6:21 PM by Julie L.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hit and Run, Redux -- comment #21 from Steff Z</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Archaeopteryx" and "helicopter" help the case for pronouncing the second 'p' in "apoptosis," since the second part of the compound word starts with a 'pt' in all of them.  If the prefix weren't there, then you wouldn't pronounce the 'p' sound.  But it is there. So there!</p>

<p>Whichever of you is saying "apo-tosis" also has to say "helico-ter" from now on.</p>

<p>I do hope they catch that driver soon.  And not just for revenge; also to minimize future damage.  I don't want someone who drives like that, driving around the same planet as I do.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 19, 2007  6:46 PM by Steff Z&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hit and Run, Redux -- comment #22 from jeffk</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Oregon, the county named Coos does indeed rhyme with goose.</p>

<p>A number of years ago in Oregon, a friend of a coworker was hit and seriously injured by a black SUV while riding her bike, and I don't know that the driver or the SUV was ever tracked down. I was struck by the vehicle similarities between that case and this one.<br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 19, 2007  7:13 PM by jeffk&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hit and Run, Redux -- comment #23 from rjh</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pronunciation guide that I've found best for the various phth sounds is to say "off the wall" with normal pronunciation that slurs the words together.</p>

<p>These are usually from the Greek phi-theta, which often mutated into pi-tau over time.  This mutation is common to all human languages.  phi-theta is very fragile.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 19, 2007  7:27 PM by rjh&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hit and Run, Redux -- comment #24 from Fragano Ledgister</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rjh #23: That's just so pi-thetic.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 19, 2007  7:40 PM by Fragano Ledgister&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hit and Run, Redux -- comment #25 from Lydia Nickerson</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my greatest fears is to be killed without ID on my person, and to be unidentifiable at the morgue.  I always carry my driver's license, because I want the authorities to be able to notify someone who knows me so they can tell other people who know me.  Alas, it has done Mr. Corriveau little good.  </p>

<p>When I was younger, I used to wonder how it was that people found out about the deaths of their friends.  I had thought that there needed to be some formal process. Friendship doesn't work like that, thank goodness; we need each other too badly.  The most frightening thing about Mr. Corriveau's story is that it doesn't seem as if anyone is looking for him.  </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 19, 2007 11:04 PM by Lydia Nickerson&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hit and Run, Redux -- comment #26 from Lydia Nickerson</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, what does "conscious but unable to communicate" mean?  Is this polite for "vegetable" or does he have a better prognosis than that?  After 2 months, he's still not able to communicate...that looks really pretty bad to my layman's eye.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 19, 2007 11:08 PM by Lydia Nickerson&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hit and Run, Redux -- comment #27 from James D. Macdonald</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't know exactly what "conscious but unable to communicate" means ... I suspect it means that he can open his eyes and look at you, but can't talk, write, point to words, or do a blink-code.  Knocked back to three-year-old developmentally?  Memory wiped?  I'm not his current caregiver.</p>

<p>He was badly injured. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 19, 2007 11:20 PM by James D. Macdonald&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hit and Run, Redux -- comment #28 from debcha</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lydia - I live by myself in a city where I don't have any family, so I worry about the same thing - in an emergency, would anyone be contacted? I put a Post-It on the back of my driver's license with my emergency contact info. The other thing that's been strongly recommended to me is to identify my emergency contacts in my mobile phone - I have them as both 'ICE Parents' and 'ICE Brother' as well as 'Emerg Contact 1' and 'Emerg Contact 2' ('ICE' is 'in case of emergency'). </p>

<p>Jim, any thoughts?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 20, 2007  2:26 PM by debcha&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>debcha #28</p>

<p>One of the many times I lost my PalmPilot (don't ask), the kind guy at the lost and found at the bus company called the person identified as "Mom" in the phone list, who called me, and I was able get it back only five days after I'd lost it.  Somedays the universe is too kind.</p>

<p>Somedays, I think of getting my SSN tatooed on my butt.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 20, 2007  2:33 PM by Lydia Nickerson&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A story, perhaps apocryphal, from a friend who was an EMT in Santa Cruz: a thick-bearded, much-tattooed biker fellow was brought into the ER with a gunshot wound to the head. Among his tattoos was one that read, in florid Gothic script, "If found call [name] at [number]." </p>

<p>An attending nurse duly telephoned; the elderly woman who answered sighed heavily and said, "Sounds like you've got my son on your hands. I told him to put my number on his arm somewhere so they'd be able to let me know when someone finally killed him."</p>

<p>Not sure if the man survived or not...</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 20, 2007  3:04 PM by RedMolly&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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<p>Fortunately, I got over it fast.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 20, 2007  3:20 PM by Xopher&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hit and Run, Redux -- comment #32 from Larry Brennan</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I put neat, legible labels on either side of my motorcycle helmet reading, "In case of accident, DO NOT remove helmet" so that passersby don't accidentally paralyze me. I never gave too much thought to emergency contact info, though. I guess that comes from being a single guy living far from my family.</p>

<p>I have heard of people tucking emergency contact cards inside their helmets. Is this a reasonable idea/will anybody in authority look there?</p>

<p>For non-bike related issues, I rely on the assumption that my wallet is unlikely to get separated from my (injured) person.</p>

<p>Maybe I need to give this a little bit of thought.</p>

<p>Oh, and in re: tattooing such things - IMO almost as bad an idea as tattooing someone else's name on your body. That's just asking for it.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 20, 2007  3:22 PM by Larry Brennan&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 20, 2007  3:24 PM by Larry Brennan&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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<p>As a single woman living alone, it is huge relief to know that, if I go missing, someone will come looking for me.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 20, 2007  6:03 PM by janine&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hit and Run, Redux -- comment #36 from Fragano Ledgister</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>y #34: I must ptell Ptolemy about that.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 20, 2007  7:31 PM by Fragano Ledgister&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry #33: when I realized that any occurrence that would destroy my DNA would also destroy any tattoos, I gave up that idea.</p>

<p>The trouble is that as far as I know there's no easily available exemplar for my DNA.  I guess they could find epithelials and an occasional hair (not a  head hair though) in my apartment.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 20, 2007  8:10 PM by Xopher&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hit and Run, Redux -- comment #38 from Marilee</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Ford used to talk about having every important info put on a laminated card in your wallet.  If I did that, the font would have to be in negative size.  I have a bright pink piece of paper folded in the bill section of my wallet so EMERGENCY INFORMATION can be seen first.  Everything else is on the other side of the paper.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 20, 2007  8:16 PM by Marilee&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hit and Run, Redux -- comment #39 from James D. Macdonald</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are Medic Alert bracelets that have a phone number you can call, where the nice people have your whole medical history.  A Medic Alert bracelet with the words "See Wallet Card" will also help. Oftentimes the police on scene will grab the wallet before we can get to it. </p>

<p>The ICE thing on your cell phone is a good idea -- can't hurt, might help. (I have it on mine.)</p>

<p>Tattoos on body parts: I'm told that civillians in Baghdad are having their names and phone numbers tattooed on their thighs.</p>

<p></p>

<p>FWIW, motorcycle and snowmobile helmets are always transported to the hospital in the same ambulance with the patient, and taken into the ED, at least around here.</p>

<p>Some people talk about having their DNR status tattooed on their chests.</p>

<p>Please, folks, consider putting a <a href="http://vialoflife.com/" rel="nofollow">Vial of Life</a> in your refrigerator.  You're far more likely to be home when bad things happen than anywhere else.<br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 20, 2007 10:06 PM by James D. Macdonald&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rjh@23: just like a bit in Shaw's <i>Misalliance</i>, where Lena Szczepanowska uses "fish-church" to teach Brits how to pronounce the agglomeration that is so common that Cyrillic has a single character for it.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 20, 2007 11:30 PM by CHip&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When my kids were small, we lived in a large city and they liked to roam, so every day I taped a dime (then the price of a phone call) to each kid's upper arm, and wrote our phone number below it in ballpoint ink.  Fortunately, I never had occasion to discover if this sysem would work.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 21, 2007  1:33 PM by Older&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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<p>I write my mobile phone number on the arm of each of my children before we go out into crowded situations.  I've instructed them to show the arm to persons in authority (described on a case by case basis) if they get lost.</p>

<p>Like you, I've never had to discover whether this trick would work.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 21, 2007  2:46 PM by abi&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abi @ 42: My kids have been instructed, should they ever find themselves lost, to find a mom with kids to help them. Moms tend to be thicker on the ground than security guards or police officers; on the one occasion we've misplaced a child (at a book signing, natch) he immediately found a mom who took him up to the cash register and had us summoned over the loudspeaker.</p>

<p>(Also, my younger son is afraid of anyone in uniform and would probably hide in a corner rather than approach a police officer.)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 21, 2007  3:15 PM by RedMolly&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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<p>That is an excellent idea, actually, if they're in a country where the local mothers are likely to speak English.  (So the UK, the US, and the Netherlands, but not France, where we often holiday).</p>

<p>When we go to a new country, I try to find a police officer (airports are good for this) and explain the local markers to the kids.  So here in the UK they know to look for black and white checkerboard; in the US they look for the badge and shoulder patch, etc.  Every police officer I have asked to model for this discussion has been polite and helpful.</p>

<p>When Worldcon came to Glasgow, I instructed then then 4 year old to find the person with the most ribbons on their badge and turn himself over to them.  (The then 18 month old wasn't going anywhere on her own.) </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 21, 2007  3:50 PM by abi&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, I do indeed always (so far) get picked up by EMTs at home.  There's a bright pink paper on the back of the door, next to my desk, in the drawer by my recliner, and with my meds as well as in my wallet.  There's one in the visor of my blue-interior car, too.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 21, 2007  7:39 PM by Marilee&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim @ #39:</p>

<p>Thank you for the <a href="http://vialoflife.com/" rel="nofollow">Vial of Life</a> recommendation. My only gripe, and I'm going to email them about it, is that there's only space to list 10 medications. </p>

<p>*wanders off to get a copy of my living will, a baggie, and some packaging tape*</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 21, 2007  7:46 PM by glinda&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janine #35: <i>Due to a misunderstanding, I was recently unfindable by friends for a couple of hours. They called everyone in our circle and were contemplating calling my dad when we got in contact. </i></p>

<p>Same thing recently happened to me.  It's surprisingly, and kind of dirtily, reassuring.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 22, 2007  4:01 AM by ethan&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way in which I first learned about Coös County was fom Robert Frost's poem, <i>The Witch of Coös</i>. Unfortunately, the name isn't in the verse, so we don't know how Frost would have pronounced it.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 22, 2007  5:47 PM by Jonathan Cohen&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hit and Run, Redux -- comment #49 from Henry Troup</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a company that advertises ID in bracelet and dogtag-style in bicycle magazines ... <a href="http://www.justsocks.com/pm-142-22-id-on-me-id-bracelet.aspx" rel="nofollow">this</a> is something similar. Ah, the company is <a href="http://www.roadid.com/" rel="nofollow">Road ID</a> - shoe tags for runners, bracelets, anklets, dogtags - and gift certificates for your running/biking friends and relatives. Laser engraved on steel for about $20. Smart idea, the gift card.</p>

<p>Googling for this, I found that a remarkable number of requests for the identity of incapacitated bicycles exist online.  That <i>strongly</i> suggests doing something about it.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 28, 2007  9:21 PM by Henry Troup&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Runners too. I was in a bicycling/running gear store in Seattle this spring when a long-absent regular customer came in, and explained that he hadn't been in for a while because he suffered a brain hemorrhage while running. Alone. Without I.D. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 28, 2007  9:44 PM by Lila&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Jonathan@#48 </strong>:<em>The way in which I first learned about Coös County was from Robert Frost's poem, <strong>The Witch of Coös</strong>.  </em></p>

<p>Oddly enough, that's where I first learned about it, as well, in an undergraduate Frost seminar.  Little did I know at the time that eventually I would be living up here in <em>North of Boston</em> country.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 28, 2007 11:06 PM by Debra Doyle&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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