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June 4, 2007

If you can make it here…
Posted by Avram Grumer at 09:09 PM * 23 comments

you can make it anywhere!

New York Magazine has an online article, “The Profit Calculator”, about how various NYC businesses make money, from big names like MoMA and the Yankees, to little guys like a cabbie and a copy shop and your friendly neighborhood crystal meth dealer. From the page on Random House, we learn that only one book out of eight published is significantly profitable. A private investigator says that 30% of his business is women who suspect their men of cheating (and they’re almost always right), while 10% is men who suspect their women (and they’re almost always wrong). Macy’s loses $12-24 million a year in lost or stolen goods. And 55% of NYC’s budget goes to education and children’s, health, social, and homeless services.

Comments on If you can make it here...:
#1 ::: Teresa Nielsen Hayden ::: (view all by) ::: June 04, 2007, 09:26 PM:

Well. Random House.

#2 ::: Avram ::: (view all by) ::: June 04, 2007, 09:48 PM:

That might be one out of every eight new publications.

I take it Tor does better.

#3 ::: Patrick Nielsen Hayden ::: (view all by) ::: June 04, 2007, 10:10 PM:

There's a world of fudge in the word "significantly."

#4 ::: Avram ::: (view all by) ::: June 04, 2007, 10:17 PM:

Well, "significantly" was my word, so I get the fudge. (Mmm, fudge!)

NY Mag's words were "Out of every eight books, one is very profitable, one is very unprofitable, and six either break even or lose money." Random House's words, I dunno.

#5 ::: Teresa Nielsen Hayden ::: (view all by) ::: June 04, 2007, 10:43 PM:

I think Patrick and I know too much to be comfortable with short general statements about profitability and publishing. That particular short general statement could be worse.

I liked the analysis of taxi profitability. I've always wondered where they made their money.

#6 ::: ethan ::: (view all by) ::: June 04, 2007, 10:53 PM:

our hostz r in the forumz
hoggin the discushun


...huh? What? Who?

#7 ::: Seth Breidbart ::: (view all by) ::: June 04, 2007, 11:23 PM:

It seems that cab drivers mostly make their money by holding onto a medallion (the price increase greatly exceeds their earnings, and the TLC is too wimpy to keep the fares unchanged until medallion prices drop to reasonable).

#8 ::: Mary ::: (view all by) ::: June 05, 2007, 12:30 AM:

Women are almost always right when they suspect their husbands of cheating, and men are almost always wrong? Not a big surprise.

*looks at smoking wreckage of 20 year marriage*

#9 ::: Francis ::: (view all by) ::: June 05, 2007, 08:03 AM:

Women are almost always right when they suspect their husbands of cheating, and men are almost always wrong? Not a big surprise.

If we assume a population that is generally heterosexual, it makes me wonder who the men are cheating with.

#10 ::: Chaos ::: (view all by) ::: June 05, 2007, 08:14 AM:

If we assume a population that is generally heterosexual, it makes me wonder who the men are cheating with.

... unmarried women, maybe?

#11 ::: John ::: (view all by) ::: June 05, 2007, 10:08 AM:

Huh. Maybe the cheating men are cheating with the married women whose men are unsuspecting...

#12 ::: BSD ::: (view all by) ::: June 05, 2007, 10:08 AM:

Another possibility, and the one I suspect -- men might not be as likely to be suspicious at the right time.

#13 ::: clew ::: (view all by) ::: June 05, 2007, 01:48 PM:

He Knew He Was Right (obTrollope).

What signal would they be reacting to, then?

#14 ::: Mary Dell ::: (view all by) ::: June 05, 2007, 07:06 PM:

Mary @ #8: Women are almost always right when they suspect their husbands of cheating, and men are almost always wrong?

Well, among the ones who hire a private detective to confirm their suspicions, which presumably skews the stats in some unknowable direction.

#15 ::: j m mcdermott ::: (view all by) ::: June 05, 2007, 07:48 PM:

somewhere in their is a daniel stern twice-told tale.

failing painter working at yankee stadium steals from Macy's and uses his meth dealer as a middleman to turn the goods, then hires a PI to find out his wife is not cheating, but moonlighting as a cabby because her copy shop is quietly going out of business.

i wish he was still with us to write this one.

#16 ::: David Goldfarb ::: (view all by) ::: June 06, 2007, 06:47 AM:

Having worked in a copy shop for ... erm, a long time... I followed the link to the bit on those. I don't know, I suspect the article there is seriously overestimating how much money they make -- my best guess is that the copiers cost rather more than mentioned. I can say that the one I work for has rather higher gross and lower net, at least.

#17 ::: Design ::: (view all by) ::: June 09, 2007, 02:30 PM:

-- Spam message deleted --

#19 ::: Teresa Nielsen Hayden concurs; that's spam ::: (view all by) ::: June 09, 2007, 10:07 PM:

Kimiko, Fragano, I think you're right, but because my laptop died I don't have access to my Movable Type account. Could Jim or Avram or Patrick please zap that one? (Avram, current practice is to delete the text but keep the message open so we don't renumber the thread.)

Thanks!

#20 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: June 09, 2007, 10:51 PM:

Hmm, the message is gone but the spammish mailto: link is still there.

#21 ::: Aconite ::: (view all by) ::: June 09, 2007, 10:56 PM:

Xopher @ 21: It would be wrong to take advantage of that in a hoist-on-their-own-petard kind of way.

So very, very wrong.

Quite bad. Really, really naughty. I am absolutely not advocating such a thing. Because it would be wrong.

#22 ::: Kimiko ::: (view all by) ::: June 10, 2007, 05:37 PM:

yay! I was right! *warm glowy feeling*

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