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      <title>If you can make it here...</title>
      <description>...you can make it anywhere! New York Magazine has an online article, &amp;#8220;The Profit Calculator&amp;#8221;, about how various NYC businesses...</description>
      <content:encoded>...you can make it anywhere! New York Magazine has an online article, &#8220;The Profit Calculator&#8221;, about how various NYC businesses...</content:encoded>
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         <title>If you can make it here... -- comment #1 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden</title>
         <description>comment from Teresa Nielsen Hayden on  4.Jun.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Well. Random House.</p>
	 <p>Posted June  4, 2007  9:26 PM by Teresa Nielsen Hayden</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>If you can make it here... -- comment #2 from Avram</title>
         <description>comment from Avram on  4.Jun.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>That might be one out of every eight <em>new</em> publications. </p>

<p>I take it Tor does better. </p>
	 <p>Posted June  4, 2007  9:48 PM by Avram</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>If you can make it here... -- comment #3 from Patrick Nielsen Hayden</title>
         <description>comment from Patrick Nielsen Hayden on  4.Jun.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>There's a world of fudge in the word "significantly."</p>
	 <p>Posted June  4, 2007 10:10 PM by Patrick Nielsen Hayden</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>If you can make it here... -- comment #4 from Avram</title>
         <description>comment from Avram on  4.Jun.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Well, "significantly" was my word, so I get the fudge. (Mmm, fudge!) </p>

<p><i>NY Mag</i>'s words were "Out of every eight books, one is very profitable, one is very unprofitable, and six either break even or lose money." Random House's words, I dunno. </p>
	 <p>Posted June  4, 2007 10:17 PM by Avram</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>If you can make it here... -- comment #5 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden</title>
         <description>comment from Teresa Nielsen Hayden on  4.Jun.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>I think Patrick and I know too much to be comfortable with short general statements about profitability and publishing. That particular short general statement could be worse.</p>

<p>I liked the analysis of taxi profitability. I've always wondered where they made their money.</p>
	 <p>Posted June  4, 2007 10:43 PM by Teresa Nielsen Hayden</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>If you can make it here... -- comment #6 from ethan</title>
         <description>comment from ethan on  4.Jun.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>our hostz r in the forumz<br />
hoggin the discushun</p>

<p><br />
...huh? What? Who?</p>
	 <p>Posted June  4, 2007 10:53 PM by ethan</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>If you can make it here... -- comment #7 from Seth Breidbart</title>
         <description>comment from Seth Breidbart on  4.Jun.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>It seems that cab drivers mostly make their money by holding onto a medallion (the price increase greatly exceeds their earnings, and the TLC is too wimpy to keep the fares unchanged until medallion prices drop to reasonable).</p>
	 <p>Posted June  4, 2007 11:23 PM by Seth Breidbart</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>If you can make it here... -- comment #8 from Mary</title>
         <description>comment from Mary on  5.Jun.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Women are almost always right when they suspect their husbands of cheating, and men are almost always wrong? Not a big surprise.</p>

<p><i>*looks at smoking wreckage of 20 year marriage*<i></i></i></p>
	 <p>Posted June  5, 2007 12:30 AM by Mary</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>If you can make it here... -- comment #9 from Francis</title>
         <description>comment from Francis on  5.Jun.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p><em>Women are almost always right when they suspect their husbands of cheating, and men are almost always wrong? Not a big surprise.</em></p>

<p>If we assume a population that is generally heterosexual, it makes me wonder who the men are cheating <em>with</em>.</p>
	 <p>Posted June  5, 2007  8:03 AM by Francis</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>If you can make it here... -- comment #10 from Chaos</title>
         <description>comment from Chaos on  5.Jun.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p><em>If we assume a population that is generally heterosexual, it makes me wonder who the men are cheating with.</em></p>

<p>... unmarried women, maybe?</p>
	 <p>Posted June  5, 2007  8:14 AM by Chaos</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>If you can make it here... -- comment #11 from John</title>
         <description>comment from John on  5.Jun.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Huh.  Maybe the cheating men are cheating with the married women whose men are unsuspecting...</p>
	 <p>Posted June  5, 2007 10:08 AM by John</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>If you can make it here... -- comment #12 from BSD</title>
         <description>comment from BSD on  5.Jun.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Another possibility, and the one I suspect -- men might not be as likely to be suspicious at the right time.</p>
	 <p>Posted June  5, 2007 10:08 AM by BSD</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>If you can make it here... -- comment #13 from clew</title>
         <description>comment from clew on  5.Jun.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p><i>He Knew He Was Right</i> (obTrollope).</p>

<p>What signal would they be reacting to, then? </p>
	 <p>Posted June  5, 2007  1:48 PM by clew</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>If you can make it here... -- comment #14 from Mary Dell</title>
         <description>comment from Mary Dell on  5.Jun.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Mary @ #8: <i>Women are almost always right when they suspect their husbands of cheating, and men are almost always wrong? </i></p>

<p>Well, among the ones who hire a private detective to confirm their suspicions, which presumably skews the stats in some unknowable direction.</p>
	 <p>Posted June  5, 2007  7:06 PM by Mary Dell</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>If you can make it here... -- comment #15 from j m  mcdermott</title>
         <description>comment from j m  mcdermott on  5.Jun.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>somewhere in their is a daniel stern twice-told tale.</p>

<p>failing painter working at yankee stadium steals from Macy's and uses his meth dealer as a middleman to turn the goods, then hires a PI to find out his wife is not cheating, but moonlighting as a cabby because her copy shop is quietly going out of business.</p>

<p>i wish he was still with us to write this one.</p>
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         <title>If you can make it here... -- comment #16 from David Goldfarb</title>
         <description>comment from David Goldfarb on  6.Jun.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Having worked in a copy shop for ... erm, a long time... I followed the link to the bit on those.  I don't know, I suspect the article there is seriously overestimating how much money they make -- my best guess is that the copiers cost rather more than mentioned.  I can say that the one I work for has rather higher gross and lower net, at least.</p>
	 <p>Posted June  6, 2007  6:47 AM by David Goldfarb</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>If you can make it here... -- comment #17 from Design</title>
         <description>comment from Design on  9.Jun.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p><i>-- Spam message deleted --</i></p>
	 <p>Posted June  9, 2007  2:30 PM by Design</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>If you can make it here... -- comment #18 from Kimiko sees spam</title>
         <description>comment from Kimiko sees spam on  9.Jun.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Ha! Caught one!</p>
	 <p>Posted June  9, 2007  2:38 PM by Kimiko sees spam</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>If you can make it here... -- comment #19 from Fragano Ledgister sees what might be spam</title>
         <description>comment from Fragano Ledgister sees what might be spam on  9.Jun.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Of a rather odd kind.</p>
	 <p>Posted June  9, 2007  2:39 PM by Fragano Ledgister sees what might be spam</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>If you can make it here... -- comment #20 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden concurs; that's spam</title>
         <description>comment from Teresa Nielsen Hayden concurs; that's spam on  9.Jun.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Kimiko, Fragano, I think you're right, but because my laptop died I don't have access to my Movable Type account. Could Jim or Avram or Patrick please zap that one? (Avram, current practice is to delete the text but keep the message open so we don't renumber the thread.)</p>

<p>Thanks!</p>
	 <p>Posted June  9, 2007 10:07 PM by Teresa Nielsen Hayden concurs; that's spam</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>If you can make it here... -- comment #21 from Xopher</title>
         <description>comment from Xopher on  9.Jun.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Hmm, the message is gone but the spammish mailto: link is still there.</p>
	 <p>Posted June  9, 2007 10:51 PM by Xopher</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>If you can make it here... -- comment #22 from Aconite</title>
         <description>comment from Aconite on  9.Jun.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Xopher @ 21:  It would be wrong to take advantage of that in a hoist-on-their-own-petard kind of way.</p>

<p>So very, very wrong.  </p>

<p>Quite bad.  Really, really naughty.  I am absolutely not advocating such a thing.  Because it would be wrong.</p>
	 <p>Posted June  9, 2007 10:56 PM by Aconite</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>If you can make it here... -- comment #23 from Kimiko</title>
         <description>comment from Kimiko on 10.Jun.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>yay! I was right! *warm glowy feeling*</p>
	 <p>Posted June 10, 2007  5:37 PM by Kimiko</p></content:encoded>
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