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      <description>Jay: *These* are the hot sheets? Kay: Best investigative reporting on the planet. But go ahead, read the New York...</description>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #1 from Fade Manley</title>
         <description>comment from Fade Manley on  8.Aug.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Heck, who am I going to turn to now when I need updates on the mafia's casino construction on Mars? I was trying to plan a vacation, darnit!</p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #2 from ethan</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>Maybe the problem is that everyone looked at it in line, but not enough people bought it.</p>

<p>I'll miss it.</p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #3 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden</title>
         <description>comment from Teresa Nielsen Hayden on  8.Aug.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Dang. Now Ed Anger's going to have to spend his days hanging out at LGF.</p>
	 <p>Posted August  8, 2007  4:49 PM by Teresa Nielsen Hayden</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #4 from Ron Sullivan</title>
         <description>comment from Ron Sullivan on  8.Aug.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>I'm pig-biting mad!</p>
	 <p>Posted August  8, 2007  4:52 PM by Ron Sullivan</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #5 from Serge</title>
         <description>comment from Serge on  8.Aug.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Nooo!!! I'll never find out the truth about Saddam Hussein's genetically engineered dinosaurs with the laser cannons mounted on their heads!</p>
	 <p>Posted August  8, 2007  4:55 PM by Serge</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #6 from Fragano Ledgister</title>
         <description>comment from Fragano Ledgister on  8.Aug.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>There is something sad about the disappearance of a newspaper that once had as its front-page headline 'John Lennon returns... as a crow!'</p>
	 <p>Posted August  8, 2007  4:57 PM by Fragano Ledgister</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #7 from Jon Evans</title>
         <description>comment from Jon Evans on  8.Aug.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>There's an amusing essay/eulogy in today's LA Times from a former WWN, um, reporter - <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-miller8aug08,1,5015566.story?ctrack=1&cset=true" rel="nofollow">Weekly World News Meets God!</a></p>
	 <p>Posted August  8, 2007  5:03 PM by Jon Evans</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #8 from Dawno</title>
         <description>comment from Dawno on  8.Aug.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>My favorite headline was about the <a href="http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/11-2-2005-80435.asp" rel="nofollow">Big Foot hooker</a> seen "propositioning Clinton and Kennedy as the two Democratic Party heavyweights were waiting at a Washington traffic light in a sleek black limousine" Her name was Helen, her pimp was Francois. She was first sited plying her wares in Beasley, Canada.</p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #9 from Nathan</title>
         <description>comment from Nathan on  8.Aug.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Jim,</p>

<p>Your dismissive attitude toward these intrepid reporters is not appreciated.  Those brave soldiers of the fourth estate dared to tell the <strong>truth</strong> when others quailed at the very thought.  The world is going to be a much less informed place with the loss of this fine paper. Fah, I say to your objective reporting of the Presidential election.  Bah, I say to you unbiased investigative journalism.  Hah, I say to your respectful Op/Ed pieces.</p>

<p><strong>God save the BatBoy!</strong></p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #10 from Dawno</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>oops - "sighted". sigh.</p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #11 from Kip W</title>
         <description>comment from Kip W on  8.Aug.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>When I bought the tabs -- which was rarely -- I bought WWN, because their focus was on totally made-up shit instead of starfucking. (I still remember being slightly shocked, one day, to realize that <i>People</i> was the <i>Enquirer</i> on nicer paper. And it was a long time ago.)</p>

<p>How to tell if your co-workers are space aliens!<br />
Science on verge of creating plant people!</p>

<p>Where will we go for our crazy, half-baked theories and their cheesy Photoshopped evidence? </p>

<p>Oh yeah, we're soaking in it. The Internet. Whew.</p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #12 from Richard Crawford</title>
         <description>comment from Richard Crawford on  8.Aug.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>In his blog, Bob Greenburger, one of the editors of the <em>WWN</em>, wrote this:  </p>

<blockquote>Friday morning, Jeff Rovin comes in for a meeting and then the staff was to be called in. He’s looking harried, not at all relaxed. At 11:30, we’re finally shown into an office where we are told the Board of Directors has chosen to close Weekly World News. The reasons given make no sense. We’re stunned and shell-shocked. We’re to stay on through August 3, finishing the reprint issues and then we’re done. A glorious, funny, odd publication, born in 1979, will go out with a whimper and all I can think is that something’s going on that they’re not telling us because it just doesn’t make sense.</blockquote>

<p>"It just doesn't make sense..."  Perhaps a scoop is in the making here.  It all kind of reminds me of when Art Bell "retired" for the first time, and did nothing to quell the rumors that he had been visited by "government agents" demanding that he keep quiet.</p>

<p>I'll bet a doughnut this is a publicity ploy on the part of <em>WWN</em>; they're going to claim the government forced them to shut down, but they'll be back in a few months with new breaking stories about angels sitting in on Presidential cabinet meetings.</p>

<p>Then again, maybe not.</p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #13 from Tania</title>
         <description>comment from Tania on  8.Aug.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>I've been mourning the pending loss for weeks.</p>

<p>No more<br />
<i>Oil Rigs in Alaska puncture hole to hell!</i><br />
<i>Dick Cheney is a robot!</i><br />
<i>World's Fattest Cat</i><br />
<i>Osama in Alaska with Eskimo love slave!</i></p>

<p>And the references to "The News" in <i>So I Married an Axe Murderer</i> just won't be the same.</p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #14 from Stephen Granade</title>
         <description>comment from Stephen Granade on  8.Aug.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Back when I used to teach physics, I used select issues of the <i>WWN</i> in my classes. There was one issue that warned us of the nefarious Chinese plot to destroy the Earth by having the entire country's population jump at the same time. The combined force of their jump would knock the Earth out of its orbit, sending it into the icy depths of space. Only an intrepid band of some ten barflies in Chicago stood between us and certain doom, as they were <i>also</i> going to jump at the same time and thus counter the Chinese jump.</p>

<p>It was always fun to lead a class through this. "Will the Chicagoans be successful?" I'd ask, and invariably the class would point out that ten people versus one billion was no contest. Then I'd ask if the reputed Chinese plot had any chance of succeeding and the head-scratching would begin.</p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #15 from Aconite</title>
         <description>comment from Aconite on  8.Aug.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>West Virginia disputes Vermont's claim to the Bat Boy.   Hotly.  WV says it has much better caves and BB hangs out there more often than in New England.  Contradicting this in any place that serves alcohol is not recommended.</p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #16 from Vanessa</title>
         <description>comment from Vanessa on  8.Aug.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>I can't help but wonder whether the WWN is dying because it dumped its old formula of batshit crazy with nods to conservatives in favor of slightly less batshit, dorky puns/plays on words, and nods slightly more to the left.  </p>

<p>I'll never forget the way they responded to 9/11 (am about to leave and so can't look up the link) -- they apparently discussed it among themselves and decided that the only way to respond to extremes in America was to go even <em>further</em> over the top.  For that I salute them.</p>

<p>Off to track down a final copy somewhere.  </p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #17 from jmmcdermott</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>i will miss them muchly.</p>

<p>batboy was so much more fun than celebrity cellulite.</p>

<p>everytime surreality dissipates in the world, a fairy loses his wings.</p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #18 from James D. Macdonald</title>
         <description>comment from James D. Macdonald on  8.Aug.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Or, perhaps the WWN could no longer compete with the pure batshit crazy real news out of Washington DC.  We might as well have space aliens directing our foreign policy.  It would make more sense....</p>
	 <p>Posted August  8, 2007  9:04 PM by James D. Macdonald</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #19 from James Killus</title>
         <description>comment from James Killus on  8.Aug.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>"Now comes the big question: Who will print Elvis’ obituary when he dies for real?"</p>

<p>You obviously missed the 1992 edition of the WWN with the headline "Elvis Dead at 57!"</p>

<p>Of course that's not to say that he can't die again after his resurrection.</p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #20 from Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey</title>
         <description>comment from Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey on  8.Aug.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>In #14, Stephen Granade writes:</p>

<p><i>There was one issue that warned us of the nefarious Chinese plot to destroy the Earth by having the entire country's population jump at the same time. The combined force of their jump would knock the Earth out of its orbit, sending it into the icy depths of space.</i></p>

<p><br />
Phil:</p>

<p>The seeds of this lie in the Leaping Chinese Earthquake Doomsday Weapon, first suggested by David Stone of the University of Alaska. I<br />
remember <a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,941748,00.html" rel="nofollow">reading about it in <i>Time</i></a> as a teenager. </p>

<p><i>If at a given moment, says Stone, all 750 million Chinese obeyed a command to jump from 6½-ft. platforms, they could constitute a "geophysical weapon." How? Assuming that the average Chinese weighs 110 lbs., he calculates, the energy released by this great leap downward would be equivalent to an earthquake of magnitude 4.5 on the Richter scale, causing extensive damage in China. But if the Chinese were organized to jump roughly every 54 minutes—just when the peak of a barely perceptible natural ripple that continually sweeps around the earth's surface passes through China—they might set up a world-girdling resonant ground wave that would cause even greater damage in distant lands. By properly aligning their millions and carefully timing the jump, for example, Peking could aim a ground wave along the Pacific-rim earthquake belt and possibly set off quakes in California far more devastating than the original shocks in China.</i></p>

<p><i>Would there be any defense? Certainly, says Stone. By having its population jump between the peaks of the ground waves stirred up by China, a threatened nation could damp them out before they grew intense enough to cause damage. There is one catch: the target nation would, of course, be less populous than China. Thus, to effectively counteract the massive Chinese geophysical aggression, its people would have to jump from higher platforms.</i></p>

<p>It has since been processed through the machinery of folklore, and turns up every now and then in various guises.</p>

<p>I wrote to Prof. Stone about this in 2006; he is amused to see the changes rung, like echoing seismic waves, on his idea: </p>

<p>"My favorite response to the great leap downward was in the London Economist where I was hailed as the saviour of the economy of SE Asia - who else could build 600 million step ladders?"</p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #21 from Clifton Royston</title>
         <description>comment from Clifton Royston on  9.Aug.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>I'm not sure Ed Anger would really fit in at LGF or conservative sites.  One of my favorite Anger rants 10 or 15 years back was about how <b>of course</b> the military should allow gays to serve, because <b>all</b> the great military leaders of history were queer.  Julius Caesar, queer!  Lawrence of Arabia shot one of his lieutenants to death because his camel's color wasn't properly matched! &c.  It was a great rant.</p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #22 from rm</title>
         <description>comment from rm on  9.Aug.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>I'll always believe they were inserting skeptical commentary into the segment of our population whose thought processes are entirely magical (<a href="http://kfmonkey.blogspot.com/2007/01/repost-crazification-factor.html" rel="nofollow">27%</a>). Evidence: Saddam's and Osama's gay marriage love child. This came out just before the war -- I think it was a lot of folks's first clue that Saddam and Osama were two different people.</p>

<p>So, you know. That means the government shut them down.</p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #23 from hamletta</title>
         <description>comment from hamletta on  9.Aug.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>It's a sad day. When I first heard they were shutting down, I thought they said they were going to continue on the Web. </p>

<p>That <i>Post</i> article was really good. </p>

<p>In slightly less surreal (and off-topic) news, Clownhall has just introduced its own <a href="http://tbogg.blogspot.com/2007/08/youre-nobody-until-somebody-isbns-you.html" rel="nofollow">vanity press</a>! It's a collision of Miss Teresa's fave topics, sleazy publishers and wingnuttery!</p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #24 from Bob Rossney</title>
         <description>comment from Bob Rossney on  9.Aug.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Like The Onion, or archy and mehitabel, the WWN was most wondrous when you first discovered it.  For me, it was in the summer of 1984.  WWN felt like it was somehow channeling the zeitgeist.</p>

<p>It's best put by Tracey Walter (Miller) in REPO MAN, the best American movie of the 1980s (in your face, RAGING BULL!) - a movie, by the way, in which the WWN played a pivotal part.  </p>

<p>Really, the whole scene is worth a cut-and-paste:</p>

<blockquote><strong>Miller:</strong> A lot of people don't realize what's really going on. They view life as a bunch of unconnected incidents and things. They don't realize that there's this, like, lattice of coincidence that lays on top of everything. 

<p>Give you an example, show you what I mean: suppose you're thinking about a plate of shrimp. Suddenly someone'll say, like, "plate," or "shrimp," or "plate of shrimp" out of the blue.  No explanation. No point in looking for one, either. It's all part of a cosmic unconsciousness.</p>

<p><strong>Otto:</strong> You eat a lot of acid, Miller, back in the hippie days?</p>

<p><strong>Miller:</strong> I'll give you another instance: you know how everybody's into weirdness right now?  Books in all the supermarkets about Bermuda triangles, UFO's, how the Mayans invented television and all?</p>

<p><strong>Otto:</strong>  I don't read them books.</p></blockquote>

<p>This was reaching into the (not very distant) past, to the Firesign Theatre's <em>Everything You Know Is Wrong</em> ("The Aztecs invented the vacation!"  And don't get me started on the Aztecs and the Tick, Itlan).  And it echoed into the future, as you can hear in The Future Sound of London's "It's My Mind That Works" (1995), which samples it.</p>

<p>It's hard for anyone who lived through it to believe that a day would come when someone would be nostalgic for 1984.  But just open this week's New Yorker, and read Jane Meyer's "The Black Sites."  It makes weirdness seem like a luxury, a frivolous pastime from an earlier day, like playing a few hands of whist after the evening's singing.</p>

<p>It feels like what killed the WWN was not changing tastes (though they did) or the transformation of media (though there was that), but our entry into a time when weirdness is no longer a crazy fringe escape, comic relief for troubled times.  Today weirdness is too real for comfort.  We can't make fun of the weird anymore; the best we can do (and it's not good) is pretend that it isn't happening.</p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #26 from Emma</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>My dad and I used to discuss the WWN stories while waiting in line at the old Community store in Chicago (a precursor of WalMart, I guess). It took a moment or two for these two recent immigrants to realize these folks were not for real...  </p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #27 from Stephen Granade</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>Bill @ 20: That's <i>fabulous</i>. I've no idea whether that directly inspired the <i>WWN</i> article, but I choose to believe it did regardless. And, really, isn't that kind of belief what the <i>WWN</i> was all about?</p>

<p>Natalie @ 25: The only time you saw something true...as far as you know. There are things man was not meant to know except as an article in the <i>WWN</i>.</p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #28 from Melissa Singer</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>Bob Greenburger is a good, long-time friend of mine.  </p>

<p>He deserved better.<br />
</p>
	 <p>Posted August  9, 2007 10:35 AM by Melissa Singer</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #29 from beth meacham</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>No more Batboy stories!  No more wondering who The Alien will endorse for President!  I grieve.</p>
	 <p>Posted August  9, 2007 10:50 AM by beth meacham</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #30 from Faren Miller</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>My husband's favorite lunchroom reading gone? He'll be devastated.</p>
	 <p>Posted August  9, 2007 11:54 AM by Faren Miller</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #31 from Faren Miller</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>At least <i>I</i> still have <a href="http://http://www.sciencedaily.com/" rel="nofollow">Science Daily online</a> for entertainment. The past 24 hours includes stories on "Why Nectar-Feeding Bats Need a 'Power Drink' to Fly" (would that be Cthul-Ade?), and "Potato Chip Flavoring Boosts Longevity of Concrete".</p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #32 from DavidS</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>My favorite WWN story was a headline which was probably perfectly true, yet relied on a completely different view of reality:</p>

<p>"Study finds, 60% of shamans not actual witch doctors!"</p>

<p>What I loved about the WWN was that, while other tabloids announced news that would be surprising if true, the WWN assumed that the world of the tabloids was true and then asked what news would still be surprising to inhabitants of that world. Thus "Elvis dead!" and "Hillary found in bed with alien!"</p>

<p><br />
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #33 from Kevin McCarty</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>Is there somewhere I can pre-order the Complete Weekly World News archive on DVD?  Will it include full-color covers, and be searchable?</p>
	 <p>Posted August  9, 2007  2:20 PM by Kevin McCarty</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #34 from Allen Baum</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>My favorite was the one after<br />
 "B52 Found on Moon!"<br />
when some earnest reader took a photo of the moon, with the area in question enlarged, and sent it to WWN to show that,  in fact, there was no B52 on the moon.</p>

<p> "B52 disappears from Moon!"</p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #35 from Evan</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>I wrote this over at Ezra Klein's place yesterday, and I'll repeat it here:</p>

<p>Years ago, I met an elderly woman who bought the Weekly World News and other tabloids and actually believed in what she read there. When I questioned her, she angrily asserted that it <i>had</i> to all be true, because there was a law against publishing anything that wasn't.  Once I was out of her hearing, I snickered derisively, but then it occurred to me that there were many other people like her.</p>

<p>Not long after that, I picked up a friend's copy of the WWN, and found a story about a medical study that "proved" condoms cause a particularly deadly and incurable form of cancer.</p>

<p>This was, I think, 1988--the peak of the AIDS crisis, and right around the first time I lost a friend to the disease. I found myself thinking of that poor stupid old woman, and wondered how many stupid people like her were going to die from reading that story.</p>

<p>After that, I just never found them funny anymore. Good riddance to the evil motherfuckers.</p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #36 from Brooks Moses</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>Kevin @ 33: Is there, in fact, a complete collection of the Weekly World News anywhere?</p>

<p>It's one of those things that seems so likely to have been a case of "who'd pay actual money for archival-grade storage for store stacks upon stacks of trash?", and yet in hindsight when it's too late, maybe it wasn't really trash after all.</p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #37 from Xopher</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>Kevin 33: <i>Will it include full-color covers</i></p>

<p>Only if it's produced by Turner Broadcasting.</p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #38 from Jen Roth</title>
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         <content:encoded><blockquote>Assuming that the average Chinese weighs 110 lbs., he calculates, the energy released by this great leap downward would be equivalent to an earthquake of magnitude 4.5 on the Richter scale, causing extensive damage in China. But if the Chinese were organized to jump roughly every 54 minutes—just when the peak of a barely perceptible natural ripple that continually sweeps around the earth's surface passes through China—they might set up a world-girdling resonant ground wave that would cause even greater damage in distant lands.</blockquote>

<p>"Tonight, on <i>Mythbusters</i>..."</p>

<p>Speaking of TV, this thread reminds me that I still kind of miss <i>The Chronicle</i>.</p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #39 from Michael Straight</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>I get the impression that for a lot of WWN fans, the pleasure was about 34% laughing at the funny stories and 66% laughing at the alleged hordes of people who OMG REALLY BELIEVE THESE ARTICLES ARE TRUE!</p>

<p>Everyone likes to believe there are hordes of people dumber than they are.</p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #40 from miriam beetle</title>
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         <content:encoded><p><i>Everyone likes to believe there are hordes of people dumber than they are.</i></p>

<p>i don't like to believe that. probably why i never liked "reality television."</p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #41 from Tina</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>Man... I haven't bought a WWN in a while, but I used to get them if I stopped off for groceries on the way home, especially if I was just grabbing something to eat right then and wanted something to read. I classified it as the least expensive humor magazine I could buy on a whim...</p>

<p>I started wondering a while back if they were in trouble when I saw stories repeat within months, but I didn't expect them to go under. Now I'll have to go back to Mad magazine and see if they've improved again, durnit.</p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #42 from Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers)</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>Xopher @ 37</p>

<p><i>Only if it's produced by Turner Broadcasting.</i></p>

<p>There is justice! Do you realize just how embarrased Ted Turner would be?  Serves him right for coloring over the lines.</p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #43 from Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers)</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>Michael Straight @ 39</p>

<p><i>Everyone likes to believe there are hordes of people dumber than they are</i></p>

<p>They're right.  Recursively.</p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #44 from ethan</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>Michael Straight: I'm with miriam on this (although I do like some reality television, I have to admit). On the "hordes of dumb people" issue, I don't want it to be true, I don't believe it to be true, and I kind of despise people who think it's true. And I liked <em>WWN</em> for the articles.</p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #45 from Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>A CD-ROM set of all the <i>Weekly World News</i> issues ever published would sell some copies, I betcha.</p>

<p>(Who's the guy who was buying up collections of old newspapers and who hates microfilm? Recently published one or two books about preserving newspapers.  Google has failed me.)  </p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #46 from Jakob</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>Bill Higgins # 45: It wouldn't be Nicholson Baker, would it? He published (IIRC) 'Double Fold', which was about libraries dumping hardcopy for microfilm. I believe he bought a warehouse-load of old Hearst newspapers from the LoC, or maybe the BL, and was (is?) trying to set up some kind of foundation to take care of them.</p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #47 from Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>Jakob at #46: Yes, Nicholson Baker was the guy I was thinking of.</p>

<p>If I were a reporter writing about the demise of <i>WWN</i>, I would try to get a quote from him.</p>

<p>In addition to <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Double-Fold-Libraries-Assault-Paper/dp/0375726217/ref=sr_1_4/002-9957750-3582440?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1186761373&sr=1-4" rel="nofollow"><i>Double Fold</i></a>, he also published <a href="http://www.amazon.com/World-Sunday-Graphic-Pulitzers-Newspaper/dp/0821261932/ref=sr_1_7/002-9957750-3582440?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1186761373&sr=1-7" rel="nofollow"><i>The World on Sunday : Graphic Art in Joseph Pulitzer's Newspaper (1898 - 1911)</i></a>.  Both books sound interesting, but I haven't read them.</p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #48 from simbelmyne</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>hamletta @23</p>

<p>The WWN <i>is</i> going web based only.  At least, according to my friend that maintains the website.</p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #49 from B. Durbin</title>
         <description>comment from B. Durbin on 10.Aug.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>My mother received a subscription to the Weekly World News for her 40th birthday as a joke. Hilarious reading, and most entertaining.</p>

<p>I actually found several true stories in various issues because my hometown area had a rash of minor weirdnesses around then, like the janitors who caught a gopher, tried to kill it by spraying chewing-gum remover on it in an enclosed room, and then blew up the room because somebody tried to light a cigarette. (<a href="http://www.snopes.com/critters/cruelty/gopher.asp" rel="nofollow">The gopher survived</a>.) That's one of those stories that gets referred to as an urban legend because it sounds too strange to be true. Likewise crazy was the lady who got a noise citation for snoring too loud, but then, Davis has always been a little weird.</p>

<p>At any rate, I wrote a story for my high-school newspaper on how to spot the true stories in the Weekly World News. IIRC, one of the primary indicators was the lack of multiple exclamation points in the title. Another was the short length— obviously, the editors expended much more time on fiction than truth. And why not? They were obviously having fun.</p>

<p>Incidentally, the last page of the article goes into the reasons why WWN seems to be folding, the primary one being that the new publisher decided to fire all the old hands and bring in comedy writers. The long-termers understood that WWN's primary value lay in reporting nonsense with a straight face, while it seems that the newbies went straight for the laugh, corroding the image. The funniest people are often the ones who are trying the hardest to play it straight. (SNL should think on that as well.)</p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #50 from Madeline F</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>Tragedy!</p>

<p>The Weekly World News was great for prognostication.  I'd buy one occasionally when I found one, and it would almost always have an article that pointed out something in my own life...  Once I brought "Psychic Car Mechanic Senses Auto Problems" in to show my gaming group, where I was playing a psychometer who fixed cars for a living.  "No seriously, you just happened to buy this one, that had this article in it?"  S'truth.  </p>

<p>I mean, as I'm not a MIB, the WWN never told me anything particularly key, but you can't malign that kind of solid grasp of the present.  </p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #51 from Rob Rusick</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>B. Durbin @49: <i>The funniest people are often the ones who are trying the hardest to play it straight.</i></p>

<p>Bob Newhart comes to mind.</p>
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         <title>No More Vermont Bat Boy? -- comment #52 from Clifton Royston</title>
         <description>comment from Clifton Royston on 12.Aug.07</description>
         <content:encoded><p>I should also note that for quite a while back there in the '90s, WWN used to bring in some of the great Usenet "personalities" for commentary or as a basis for whole articles.  For instance, they would periodically consult Alexander Abian ("prominent scientist") for an article about how the moon must be destroyed ("Scientists Say!") because it causes plagues and deviations on Earth or how Venus's orbit must be changed to turn it into a paradise.  I wonder if they ever got any articles out of Ludwig Plutonium?</p>
	 <p>Posted August 12, 2007  4:45 PM by Clifton Royston</p></content:encoded>
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         <pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 16:45:06 -0500</pubDate>
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