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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #1 from abi</title>
         <description>comment from abi on 11.Oct.07</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NYT link...I can has paywall!</p>

<p>Or I can has<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7039100.stm" rel="nofollow">Beeb link</a>.</p>

<p>Last line of the BBC article:  "She can also expect to see a rise in sales."</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007  7:46 AM by abi&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #2 from Patrick Nielsen Hayden</title>
         <description>comment from Patrick Nielsen Hayden on 11.Oct.07</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Times link switched out for BBC one.  I forgot that even though Times Select is over, some of their links to wire-service stories still don't work unless you're a registered user.  Registration is free, but...</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007  8:10 AM by Patrick Nielsen Hayden&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #3 from Alex Cohen</title>
         <description>comment from Alex Cohen on 11.Oct.07</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many Nobel Prize laureates could be considered genre, or at least genre-friendly?  Rudyard Kipling, Thomas Mann, Herman Hesse, T. S. Eliot, John Steinbeck, Samuel Beckett, Gabriel Garcia Marquez, William Golding, Wole Soyinka, Toni Morrison, Seamus Heaney, for a start.  Not a bad list.</p>

<p>I'm embarrassed to realize how many of the laureates I've never even heard of, much less read their work.</p>

<p>Hooray for Doris Lessing.  Maybe I need to read her books now.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007  9:16 AM by Alex Cohen&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #4 from Sajia Kabir</title>
         <description>comment from Sajia Kabir on 11.Oct.07</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seven years ago I made a list of feminist authors I'd like to win the Nobel: Adrienne Rich, Mahashweta Devi, and Doris Lessing.<br />
I no longer take the literary Nobel as seriously as I used to, nor am I as big a fan of Lessing as I was before, but still, congratulations!<br />
Shame about Adonis, though.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007  9:16 AM by Sajia Kabir&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #5 from Josh Jasper</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't know how Nobel judging is done, but I do know her writing ins superb.  Good for her.  And hopefully for the genre as well.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007  9:33 AM by Josh Jasper&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #6 from mayakda</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've never read any of her books. Any advice on a good one to start on? (Meaning one with a good story in it?)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007  9:38 AM by mayakda&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #7 from Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers)</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is nice to see someone whose work I know, if not very well, and respect, a lot, get the Nobel.  Some years it seems to be a really political beauty contest, but awards like this make up for that. May Doris Lessing continue to speak her mind through her craft for many more years.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007 10:05 AM by Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers)&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #8 from Steve Buchheit</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you know, Swedes, they tend to not to obsessively read the New Yorker or have many pretentions. I think it's the cold and the very dark winters that keeps them more grounded in reality. They also don't have much brie there, that also helps.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007 10:07 AM by Steve Buchheit&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #9 from RP</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried to read Lessing's SF as a teenager, and I couldn't get into it.  Just recently, I read "A Proper Marriage" - wow!  Really fantastic stuff, so I'm now working my way through the rest of her Children of Violence series.  Maybe I'm now old enough to tackle Canopus in Argos....</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007 10:26 AM by RP&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #10 from John Chu</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neat. When I heard about it on the radio, I was wondering... I also thought it was nice that NPR acknowledged her genre novels in their overview of her career.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007 10:40 AM by John Chu&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #11 from Sean Sakamoto</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professional writer about writers, Harold Bloom on the award:</p>

<p><em>"Although Ms. Lessing at the beginning of her writing career had a few admirable qualities, I find her work for the past 15 years quite unreadable ... fourth-rate science fiction," Bloom told The Associated Press.</em></p>

<p>I wonder what the professor considers to be first, second, and third rate science fiction to be?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007 10:49 AM by Sean Sakamoto&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #12 from lalouve</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Well, you know, Swedes, they tend to not to obsessively read the New Yorker or have many pretentions. I think it's the cold and the very dark winters that keeps them more grounded in reality. They also don't have much brie there, that also helps.</i></p>

<p>I take exception to this. We have plenty of brie...<br />
Actually, cold and dark winters is why we read writers like Doris Lessing. What else is there to do in a day that has four hours of daylight?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007 10:52 AM by lalouve&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #13 from ethan</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lalouve #12: <em>I take exception to this. We have plenty of brie...</em></p>

<p>Oh, thank goodness. I was feeling so awful for your countrypeople.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007 10:56 AM by ethan&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #14 from Juliet E McKenna</title>
         <description>comment from Juliet E McKenna on 11.Oct.07</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John @ #10,</p>

<p>Well done NPR. That's more than the BBC news bulletin I watched this (UK) lunchtime did. Nope, the SF word(s) never sullied their lips. </p>

<p>Ho hum. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007 10:58 AM by Juliet E McKenna&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #15 from Fragano Ledgister</title>
         <description>comment from Fragano Ledgister on 11.Oct.07</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it's marvellous.* There is a cynical part of me, though, that has the prize committee going....</p>

<p>Feminist? Check.<br />
Postcolonial. Check?<br />
Better award the prize soon? Check.</p>

<p></p>

<p>* Though there's a part of me that every year hopes that Kamau Brathwaite will get the nod.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007 10:59 AM by Fragano Ledgister&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #16 from Madeleine Robins</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have thrown myself against Lessing's work a few times and not been able to get into it; I ought to try again, I think.</p>

<p>I love her dry, albeit pleased, reaction to the fuss.  "Now we're going to have a lot of speeches and flowers and it will be very nice."  </p>

<p>And a big honking check, too.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007 11:10 AM by Madeleine Robins&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #17 from Adam Lipkin</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean #11: In the case of Bloom, I think he likely believes that the tiers above "fourth-rate" have yet to be populated.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007 11:12 AM by Adam Lipkin&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #18 from Doug</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re 17 et al.: Actually, Bloom is a big fan of Crowley's <em>Little, Big</em>. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007 11:25 AM by Doug&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #19 from Andrew Willett</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although don't hold that against <i>Little, Big,</i> please.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007 12:03 PM by Andrew Willett&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #20 from Patrick Nielsen Hayden</title>
         <description>comment from Patrick Nielsen Hayden on 11.Oct.07</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one time I had an extended conversation with Harold Bloom, he told me his favorite SF novel is David Lindsay's <em>A Voyage to Arcturus</em>.</p>

<p>(Teresa and I were, for several years, associate editors of the <em>Chelsea House Library of Literary Criticism</em>, a massive reference work compiled under the rather cough distant cough "editorship" of H. Bloom.  In Bloom's defense, I will say that he was entirely amenable to us including large amounts of material about various major SF writers.)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007 12:09 PM by Patrick Nielsen Hayden&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #21 from Tim Walters</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mayakda @ 6: My favorite of the few I've read is <i>Briefing For A Descent Into Hell</i>, which, by complete coincidence (I had no idea she was up for a Nobel), I'm in the middle of rereading. <br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007 12:12 PM by Tim Walters&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #22 from A.J.</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judging by the newspaper articles, Ms. Lessing must be a very entertaining interviewee.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007 12:14 PM by A.J.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #23 from JESR</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Chu @10, I would have applauded when I heard the words "science fiction" in the NPR report, if it had not been just after 5am and I was half-asleep in bed.</p>

<p>I was sorry, though, that neither NPR nor the BBC (KUOW plays BBC World Service from 1am to 5am) nor, apparently, the Nobel committee, gave mention of Lessing's subversive and sometimes almost juvenile sense of humor.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007 12:18 PM by JESR&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #24 from Steve Buchheit</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#12 lalouve, I sincerely apologize for not knowing the status of brie supply in Sweden. The enormity of my ignorance regarding all cheesy consumables in your fine country is truly staggering and based on the experience of several Swedes on trains traveling through Germany in the mid 80s.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007 12:35 PM by Steve Buchheit&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #25 from oliviacw</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JESR@23, I too probably heard the news on the radio at 5am while mostly asleep.  Which meant that I incorporated the name into a dream - apparently, I attended a baby shower for "Doris" and later found out that it was Doris Lessing. (Two friends of mine are having babies soon, so baby showers are much on the agenda). I was somewhat confused about the dream upon waking until I heard the report again, while more coherent. I'm amused that I gave her a party in my brain for this news!</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007  1:08 PM by oliviacw&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #26 from Tom Whitmore</title>
         <description>comment from Tom Whitmore on 11.Oct.07</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful to hear. How many avowed SF writers have won the Nobel? I'm inclined to include Kipling among them -- Borges? Calvino?</p>

<p>Lessing definitely admitted that what she was writing, betimes, was SF. So how can we advocate for (e.g.) Atwood, John Crowley, or a number of others?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007  1:36 PM by Tom Whitmore&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #27 from mayakda</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TW @ 21: Thanks for the rec. That certainly sounds like a timely title.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007  1:58 PM by mayakda&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #28 from Chuk</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Canada, and for some reason, all my friends think Lessing is a Canadian writer. I even notice on Boing Boing (http://boingboing.hexten.net/2007/10/11/doris-lessing-wins-n.html), Cory Doctorow refers to her as Canadian. (I thought she was, too.)</p>

<p>But any bio info about her I can find doesn't mention Canada. It's very weird.<br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007  2:06 PM by Chuk&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #29 from Seth Gordon</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are people confusing Doris Lessing with Margaret Atwood?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007  2:14 PM by Seth Gordon&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom @26:</p>

<p>Neither Borges nor Calvino won a Nobel.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007  2:21 PM by Dan Blum&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #31 from Jon Evans</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#6: <i>Shikasta</i> isn't a bad place to start, kind of Olaf Stapledon in feel.</p>

<p>#28: I'm think I would know if Doris Lessing were Canadian. (My father, who was born in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe where she spent a considerable portion of her life, once dated her daughter before he emigrated to Canada.)<br />
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	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007  2:24 PM by Jon Evans&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #32 from C. Wingate</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What with Harold Bloom and the other snarky comments recorded in the Wikipedia article, <i>Ansible</i> ought to have a Special Nobel Edition of "How Others See Us".</p>

<p>I read <i>Shikasta</i> and didn't care for it (subtle as a WB anvil) but I did like one of the other "Canopus" books very much.<br />
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	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007  2:42 PM by C. Wingate&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #33 from Joel Polowin</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some reason, <i>I</i> thought Lessing was Canadian, until I did a quick look-up on her earlier.  I read a couple of her books when I was in my teens, and found them generally uninteresting; they didn't leave much of an impression.  But I have this niggling feeling that they might have had little "Candian author" maple-leaf stickers on their spines, on the library shelves.<br />
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	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007  2:54 PM by Joel Polowin&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #34 from Ben Morris</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Harold Bloom lists H.G. Wells, John Cowper Powys, Mervyn Peake, Ursula K. LeGuin, Thomas Disch, David Lindsay and John Crowley in his Western Canon so it doesn't look to me that he has anything against science fiction or fantasy.  Also the only piece of fiction he seems to have written (The Flight to Lucifer, a sequel to Lindsay's Voyage to Arcturus) is fantasy.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007  3:38 PM by Ben Morris&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #35 from Randolph Fritz</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poet & novelist <a href="http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/harrymar.htm" rel="nofollow">Harry Martinson</a> also has a place on the genre-friendly list</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007  4:22 PM by Randolph Fritz&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #36 from Sandra</title>
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<p>Another possible source for the belief Lessing is Canadian, at least among people of my musical taste: She's mentioned in a verse of the Moxy Fruvous song "My Baby Loves a Bunch of Authors" along with Margaret Atwood, W.P. Kinsella, and Robertson Davies, Canadians all.  <br />
Somehow, nobody makes this mistake about Mario Puzo.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007  4:54 PM by Sandra&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #37 from Doug K</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I enjoyed her African stories, particularly 'This was the old chief's country', and her memoir 'African Laughter: Four Visits to Zimbabwe' was very good if sad. There may be a political element to the  prize, but it was earned. <br />
By birth, Iranian. Hm. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007  5:26 PM by Doug K&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #38 from Linkmeister</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/11/my-cat-wins/" rel="nofollow">Paul Krugman</a>, at his new blog at the NYT:</p>

<blockquote>My cat wins!

<p>One of our cats — the small gray one, who’s sitting next to my keyboard as I write this — is named Doris Lessing. And she just won a Nobel.</p></blockquote>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007  5:36 PM by Linkmeister&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if Lessing is maybe being confused with Margaret Laurence, who also wrote stories set in Africa. I am hopeful that if the Nobel ever does go to a Canadian, it will be to Alice Munro.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007  6:19 PM by tye&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #40 from miriam beetle</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sandra,</p>

<p><i>She's mentioned in a verse of the Moxy Fruvous song "My Baby Loves a Bunch of Authors" along with Margaret Atwood, W.P. Kinsella, and Robertson Davies, Canadians all.</i></p>

<p>believe it or not, you're not the only one to leap to that association. i wasn't gonna say nothing, but, yeah, there is officially at least one fruhead on making light.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007  6:23 PM by miriam beetle&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #41 from lucyp</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Spilt some dressing on Doris Lessing; these writer types are a scream."</p>

<p>This was welcome news.  I've never read any of her SF books, but I'm a big fan of her contemporary novels. I like knowing, when there is an author I love, that there's whole unexplored body of work out there, just waiting for me.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007  7:18 PM by lucyp&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #42 from Mez</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Nobel Prize site has been improving over time, but one thing it's always been good for is straight lists and that kind of information, such as all 103 <a href="http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/literature/laureates/index.html" rel="nofollow">Nobel Laureates in Literature</a>.</p>

<p>I'm usually more interested in the various science prizes, but there's been a couple of nice lits recently, frex you can read or watch Harold Pinter's speech from 2005 onsite too.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007  7:37 PM by Mez&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #43 from Michael Weholt</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#32 C. Wingate: <em>What with Harold Bloom and the other snarky comments recorded in the Wikipedia article, Ansible ought to have a Special Nobel Edition of "How Others See Us".</em></p>

<p>Except that we know how others see us. We've known for ages. It's one of the great topics of fandom, it seems to me. </p>

<p>Me, personally, I only want to hear about exceptions to the general case. I love it when a Regular Writer writes an interesting piece of SF. I love it when a Regular Writer speaks up in favor of it. Not because I need their validation for the genre, but because I want to see them step up to the plate and take their cuts.</p>

<p>There are a lot of genuinely wonderful writers who do almost all their work in the genre. Among those I would list here would be Wolfe and Delany, but I think there are a lot of really crappy writers who populate the genre and anytime anybody who is Really Good, whether they are seen as a Regular Writer or not, steps up and takes a swing, I am very, very happy, even if the work doesn't entirely meet Our Standards.</p>

<p>I'm kind of sick of the topic "How Others See Us". I frankly don't give a crap.<br />
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	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007  7:42 PM by Michael Weholt&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #44 from Stephen Frug</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Neither Borges nor Calvino won a Nobel.</i></p>

<p>It's actually embarrassingly easy to create a list of potential Literature Nobel winners who are collectively more impressive than the actual list of winners -- certainly restricting yourself just to people who were eligible (i.e. alive during the existence of the prize, I'm not cheating and listing Shakespeare here), and I think that in most if not all of the cases people who were actively considered.  Such lists (I've seen many versions - <a href="http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_19951001/ai_n14009739/print" rel="nofollow">example here</a>) usually begin with Tolstoy, Ibsen and Mark Twain, move on through Joyce, Woolf and Proust (and Kafka, although I doubt he was considered), and then include all sorts of amazing writers like Nabokov and Borges and so on.  And add your favorite SF writers to the list.  (Who do <i>you</i> think should win the list among living SF writers?)</p>

<p>I've never read Doris Lessing, so this isn't any sort of reflection on her getting it; it's just an interestingly inconsistent prize.</p>]]>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #45 from Gag Halfrunt</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw an interview with Doris Lessing on Channel 4 News here in the UK. She complained about critics who refused to take her science fiction novels seriously, and also said that she considered them to be some of her best work. (You can <a href="http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/arts_entertainment/visionary+lessings+nobel+prize/908357" rel="nofollow">watch the video online</a>, but I don't know if it works outside the UK).</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007  7:44 PM by Gag Halfrunt&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #46 from Mez</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er. And I meant to say that it's happy news.  I've enjoyed her books, and <em>Particularly Cats</em> has a firm &ndash; if painful &ndash;  place in my heart.  A quick check shows <em>The Golden Notebook</em> has moved up into the best-sellers on Powell's.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007  7:55 PM by Mez&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #47 from ebear</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EXCELLENT.</p>

<p>It's about time. I wasn't much fond of her last book, but everybody has a bad novel in them.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007  8:54 PM by ebear&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #48 from Sajia Kabir</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Living SF writers: Gaiman seems an obvious choice, but seeing that the Nobel has become a kind of Literary Lifetime Achievement Award he's probably too young, and, let's face it, too popular. Delany would be considered literary enough, but I wonder if he would be considered too sexually outrageous. Pratchett (admit it, some of you were thinking of him) to me just isn't consistent enough, taking each novel individually; he's shaped my moral outlook greatly, but my affection is for his body of work as a whole, not any particular book. I have a fondness for Rushdie (going into literary fantasists), but there's that little matter of the Satanic Verses.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007  9:01 PM by Sajia Kabir&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SF writers: LeGuin pretty clearly deserves a Nobel. I'd give one to Kim Stanley Robinson. I stupidly haven't read much Delany, but I bet he could use one. Douglas Adams should get a posthumous one. First four I thought of.</p>]]>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #50 from Kathryn from Sunnyvale</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like <a href="http://www.newsday.com/features/booksmags/ny-etdorislessing1011,0,1956124.story" rel="nofollow"> this Newsday interview</a> with Lessing, done last winter. It's very refreshing*.</p>

<p>Q.You've written many novels. Are there any you wish people would read more?</p>

<p>A. My science fiction books.</p>

<p>-------------<br />
* cue rants on writers who won't admit they're writing SF, re: thread a few months back, etc.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 11, 2007 11:09 PM by Kathryn from Sunnyvale&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #51 from Sylvia Li</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first book of hers I read wasn't SF, it was <em>The Good Terrorist</em> (1985). I'd recommend it... it's one of those tales that tend to move into the back of your mind and take up permanent residence.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 12, 2007 12:55 AM by Sylvia Li&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #52 from Earl Cooley III</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's nice to find out that Doris Lessing isn't wracked with the existential pain of Genre Denial Syndrome.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 12, 2007  1:47 AM by Earl Cooley III&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earl @52,</p>

<p>She isn't, no. But compare her interview (@50) to what the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/11/world/11cnd-nobel.html?ref=books" rel="nofollow">NYTimes wrote</a> about her Nobel win: </p>

<p>"She has dabbled in science fiction, and some of her later works bear the imprint of her interest in Sufi mysticism..."</p>

<p>Dabbled? They dabbled in research for that article.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 12, 2007  2:02 AM by Kathryn from Sunnyvale&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #54 from Clifton Royston</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember I was very fond of <i>The Marriage Between Zones Three, Four, and Five</i>.  Not exactly SF, not exactly fantasy, something closer to a parable but coming from someplace deep and dreamlike and very human.</p>

<p>Also, I strongly agree with the recommendation for <i>The Good Terrorist</i>.  Deceptively placid on the surface for quite a while, and very dark underneath, with much to think about.</p>

<p><i>The Golden Notebook</i> is a work of genius IMO, but like <i>Ulysses</i>, <i>Gravity's Rainbow</i>, or for that matter <i>Dhalgren</i>, it's not for everybody at all times.  The last time I started rereading it I drifted away from it after a while, but I should have another go at it; I remember getting a lot out of it the first time through.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 12, 2007  3:08 AM by Clifton Royston&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #55 from Doonbogglefrog</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'll post this in the open thread too, but Al Gore has won the Nobel Peace Prize (he is sharing it with the IPCC).</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 12, 2007  6:28 AM by Doonbogglefrog&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #56 from Fragano Ledgister</title>
         <description>comment from Fragano Ledgister on 12.Oct.07</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel Polowin #33: Surely a 'Candian author' would be from Crete?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 12, 2007  7:23 AM by Fragano Ledgister&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #57 from Neil in Chicago</title>
         <description>comment from Neil in Chicago on 12.Oct.07</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&ldquo;first time it’s been won by a one-time Guest of Honor of the World Science Fiction Convention&rdquo; . . . not to mention Sufi-inspired!<br />
Getting the news about Lessing and Gore (I&rsquo;ve been wondering if he&rsquo;s running for a draft since his Saturday Night Live opener a year and a half ago) really makes my morning!</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 12, 2007  8:30 AM by Neil in Chicago&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #58 from ethan</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone been able to clear up the Canadian Controversy of Y2K7? I see it's uncorrected at BoingBoing...does Cory Doctorow know something we don't? Besides the usual, I mean.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 12, 2007  9:24 AM by ethan&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #59 from Richard Koontz</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor Harold. He’s had such anxiety since his theory of anxiety of influence hit the toilet. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 12, 2007 10:01 AM by Richard Koontz&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #60 from Adam Lipkin</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doris's <a href="http://jezebel.com/gossip/clips/its-official-doris-lessing-really-is-our-fave-bitch-of-the-day-309980.php" rel="nofollow">wonderful response to the news</a>:</p>

<p>"Oh Christ, I couldn't care less."</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 12, 2007 10:45 AM by Adam Lipkin&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #61 from Chuk</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking of the Moxy Früvous thing -- I even thought that no one thinks Mario Puzo is Canadian. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 12, 2007  1:21 PM by Chuk&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #62 from Jesse the K</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've read it all. She tells the same story again and again, but her insights are such I don't mind.</p>

<p>The five novels in the <b>Children of Violence</b> series provide a refreshingly brutal perspective on the ill-informed enthusiasm motivating young revolutionaries. She travels into her future in the last volume, <b>The Four-Gated City</b>, but the series is generally mundane.</p>

<p>Her truth is even more fascinating than her fiction: I'd start with her autobiographies. She encircles the globe, explores divers religions and cultures, and fiercely defends the boundaries of a cranky smart woman:</p>

<p><b>Under My Skin: Volume One of My Autobiography, to 1949</b> <br />
and<br />
<b>Walking in the Shade: Volume Two of My Autobiography--1949-1962</b></p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 12, 2007 11:39 PM by Jesse the K&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #63 from LMB MacAlister</title>
         <description>comment from LMB MacAlister on 13.Oct.07</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was surprised and impressed to hear of Lessing's award.  Although <em>The Golden Notebook</em> is probably her best-known work, and was my introduction to her, I think nearly all of her works are excellent.  The fact that many people have trouble grasping her points-of-view might diminish her popularity, but she writes for self-expression, not sales.  I could give less of a damn what Bloom or any of her other critics have to say about her;  my enjoyment and admiration of her work was never inspired by the acclaim of any critic.  I've appreciated Bloom's respect for <em>Voyage to Arcturus</em>, but I could care less about what he thinks about that, or anything else.</p>

<p>What I particularly admire about Lessing is her ongoing willingness to admit her struggle with mental illness, and to share the insights it has brought her.  She has had a remarkable ability to express her feelings, and the courage to print her thoughts, during during her descent into illness, her years of sometimes-florid psychosis, and her resumption of "normative" perception.  Her science fiction work was informed by those experiences, as well as her view of social and societal interactions, and I've always found it very perceptive.</p>

<p>I'm thrilled about her award, and glad to know I'm not the only one who appreciates and enjoys her work.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 13, 2007  1:24 AM by LMB MacAlister&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #64 from Spiegel</title>
         <description>comment from Spiegel on 14.Oct.07</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex @3: José Saramago too. _Baltasar and Blimunda_ is about n gevb bs crbcyr jub ohvyq n sylvat znpuvar cbjrerq ol uhzna fbhyf.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 14, 2007  8:34 PM by Spiegel&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Doris Lessing wins the Nobel Prize in Literature -- comment #65 from Jim Henry</title>
         <description>comment from Jim Henry on 19.Oct.07</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking over the list of winners, I see there are only 14 winners I've read anything by; in most cases I've read only one work by the winner.  Churchill, Kipling and Shaw are the only ones I've read multiple works by.</p>

<p>Living sf writers who deserve a Nobel: definitely Gene Wolfe and John Crowley, probably Connie Willis, Tim Powers, Jack Vance and Michael Swanwick.<br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October 19, 2007  7:23 PM by Jim Henry&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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