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      <title>Today's Captain Renault Award</title>
      <description>... goes to Attorney General Michael Mukasey:. WASHINGTON -- Attorney General Michael Mukasey on Wednesday dismissed allegations of widespread politicization...</description>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #1 from Linkmeister</title>
         <description>comment from Linkmeister on  9.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, DOJ would be at the top of my list; if you can't trust law enforcement you're in deep kim-chi.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July  9, 2008  9:55 PM by Linkmeister&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #2 from Dave Lartigue</title>
         <description>comment from Dave Lartigue on  9.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can almost hear them all snickering.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July  9, 2008 10:14 PM by Dave Lartigue&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #3 from P J Evans</title>
         <description>comment from P J Evans on  9.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was no small amount of WTF when he said it was Congress's job to investigate whether Rove was involved in the prosecution of Alabama's Siegelman. (You can read about that over at Emptywheel's place.) Congress currently can't even start an impeachment investigation for crimes that have been publicly admitted by Bush.</p>

<p>If the DoJ won't investigate possible politically-motivated prosecutions by the US Attorney's office, then whose job is it, and why should what amounts to a criminal investigation be done by the legislative branch? What are we paying the AG, and can we get a refund on that particular overpayment?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July  9, 2008 11:12 PM by P J Evans&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #4 from Paula Lieberman</title>
         <description>comment from Paula Lieberman on  9.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He doesn't see it because he is assiduously avoiding looking. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July  9, 2008 11:26 PM by Paula Lieberman&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #5 from Avram</title>
         <description>comment from Avram on  9.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>if we ever get an honorable president and a congress with a spine</i></p>

<p>Not that it's likely any time soon. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July  9, 2008 11:27 PM by Avram&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #6 from Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers)</title>
         <description>comment from Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers) on  9.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course Mukaasy can't investigate the DOJ, it'd be a conflict of interest.  The same person can't be both prosecutor and criminal.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July  9, 2008 11:31 PM by Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers)&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #7 from Greg</title>
         <description>comment from Greg on  9.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's things like this that make me fantasize about being a U.S. Senator, and holding up Mukasey's nomination, and insisting on someone independent...arrghh. The Dems should have *insisted* on someone independent. Like Patrick Fitzgerald.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July  9, 2008 11:59 PM by Greg&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #8 from Thalia</title>
         <description>comment from Thalia on 10.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mukasey is trying to avoid appointing a Special Counsel, which is what is done when there is potentially a conflict between the AG's obligation to the executive branch and its obligation to investigate crimes.  But if you close your eyes, plug your ears, and yell lalala loud enough, you can pretend not to see the need for a Special Counsel.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 10, 2008  1:24 AM by Thalia&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #9 from SamChevre</title>
         <description>comment from SamChevre on 10.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will bet up to $1000, even odds, that the number of registered Democrats in the Justice Department (civil service--not counting appointees) exceeds the number of registered Republicans.</p>

<p>Any takers?</p>

<p>Seriously--the Federal civil service is overwhelmingly Democratic; changing the Democrat/Republican ratio from 5/1 to 4/2 is hard for me to get upset about.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 10, 2008  9:16 AM by SamChevre&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #10 from Dave Bell</title>
         <description>comment from Dave Bell on 10.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SamChevre</p>

<p>The trouble with counting the total for the whole DoJ is that all those Janitors who happen to be registered Democrats aren't taking decisions on who to prosecute.</p>

<p>Neither are the Janitors who are registered Republicans.<br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 10, 2008  9:45 AM by Dave Bell&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #11 from Don Fitch</title>
         <description>comment from Don Fitch on 10.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, on "add to list of those who, in a just nation, would be facing criminal charges".</p>

<p>And add his response to the long list of "We have conducted an impartial internal investigation and have discovered that we're innocent of any wrongdoing".</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 10, 2008  9:50 AM by Don Fitch&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #12 from Don Fitch</title>
         <description>comment from Don Fitch on 10.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SamChevre</p>

<p>We seem to be of different natures.  For me, any hiring or firing of Civil Service employees on the basis of their political party affiliation, or enforcement of policies based on political ideology, rather than on the laws enacted by Congress, is very easy to get upset about.  </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 10, 2008  9:57 AM by Don Fitch&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #13 from Serge</title>
         <description>comment from Serge on 10.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"I see NOTHING! I know NOTHING!" <br />
- Sgt. Hans Georg Schultz </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 10, 2008 10:13 AM by Serge&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #14 from Chris Lawson</title>
         <description>comment from Chris Lawson on 10.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SamChevre, that's not the point. There are many walks in life where a certain political position is more common. The question is not how many staffers appointed were Democrat or Republican or non-aligned. The question is, <i>were people appointed on the basis of their political affiliations?</i> Appointing people to powerful public roles, especially prosecutorial ones, on the basis of their political allegiance is wrong. Even if the appointing power thinks it's just balancing a natural bias, it's still wrong. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 10, 2008 10:23 AM by Chris Lawson&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #15 from Lizzy L</title>
         <description>comment from Lizzy L on 10.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Appointing people to powerful public roles, especially prosecutorial ones, on the basis of their political allegiance is wrong.</i></p>

<p>Just to clarify: "wrong" in this case means not only morally wrong but illegal. There's a law against it. I can't at the moment recall the name of the law -- isn't it sweet, BTW, that here in the US we name our laws? -- but it exists, and everyone knows about it. So there's a very good reason to get upset about the DoJ refusing to look into or even at its own lawlessness. </p>

<p>Not surprised, though. Not at all.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 10, 2008 10:30 AM by Lizzy L&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #16 from Lori Coulson</title>
         <description>comment from Lori Coulson on 10.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SamChevre @9:</p>

<p>If the Federal employees (Civil Service) are Career-Conditional, i.e. they're still "on probation," they can be fired. If they're Career, it is much harder.</p>

<p>Rather than go through the complicated procedure of firing the Career employee, they are usually given scut-work to do, and are for the most part ignored. They are not recommended for promotion, and depending on the office, they can be shunned. Result: MOST of these people go looking for another job.</p>

<p>Dave Bell @10: Most cleaning done at Federal buildings is contracted out, so the odds of the Janitor at DOJ being a Federal employee are very slim. This is one of the reasons most Federal agencies have locking file rooms and safes.</p>

<p>Don Fitch @12: In theory, political party is not supposed to be one of the criteria for hiring. I think there is a good possibility for a class action suit against the DOJ over the fact that the powers that be were choosing to employ only Republicans.</p>

<p>As many of you know, I am a Federal employee. In my 30 years as a civil servant I have seen only ONE employee fired -- she attacked a manager.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 10, 2008 10:36 AM by Lori Coulson&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #17 from Lori Coulson</title>
         <description>comment from Lori Coulson on 10.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris Lawson @14: If you want a really egregious example of the Bush Administration's corruption, Google "Lurita Doan."</p>

<p>She actually held a meeting in a GSA facility about "how to help our REPUBLICAN cadidates during the up-coming election."</p>

<p>She became the head of GSA because she'd donated $200K to Bush's campaign. She had no experience.</p>

<p>Lizzy @15: There are actually two laws that cover this, the Civil Service Act and the Hatch Act.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 10, 2008 10:47 AM by Lori Coulson&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #18 from P J Evans</title>
         <description>comment from P J Evans on 10.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#17</p>

<p>The Hatch Act is the one that covers things like that meeting in a GSA facility about "how to help our REPUBLICAN cadidates during the up-coming election."</p>

<p>I know Lori knows this, but <em>Lurita</em> didn't seem to be aware of it. I suspect Rove and Cheney know it, but are betting they all can get away with it until after the time limit for prosecution expires (they are, unfortunately, right so far).</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 10, 2008 11:22 AM by P J Evans&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #19 from moe99</title>
         <description>comment from moe99 on 10.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don't know about Justice, but as an enforcement attorney at the SEC for 11 years, I was under the impression that as an attorney, I had fewer civil service protections than regular bureaucrats.  I would think the same would hold true at DoJ</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 10, 2008 11:49 AM by moe99&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #20 from Chris</title>
         <description>comment from Chris on 10.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly, Mukasey is a graduate of the Horatio Nelson School of Signal Observation.  That makes him uniquely qualified for the primary responsibility (according to his boss) of his current position: preventing scandal until after the election.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 10, 2008 11:50 AM by Chris&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #21 from Wakboth</title>
         <description>comment from Wakboth on 10.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam Chevre #9: That may or may not be true, but it's irrelevant. Whether the people at DoJ vote Democratic, Republican, or whatever else, is their private matter; what matters is if they engage in partisan politics, up to and including obstructing investigations of politically-motivated crimes.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 10, 2008 12:02 PM by Wakboth&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #22 from Lori Coulson</title>
         <description>comment from Lori Coulson on 10.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PJ Evans @18: You know what really makes me angry with the Doan situation?</p>

<p><strong>Every</strong> Federal employee takes three annual courses, Security Awarness,* <em>Ethics</em>, and <strong>The Hatch Act</strong>.</p>

<p>The rules are that everyone in every Department, up to and including the Secretary, has to complete them, and the format is such that completion of the courses is verified. </p>

<p>Doan did lose her job -- but anyone who can drop $200k as a political contribution probably didn't need it.</p>

<p>*Not just Computer Security, but protecting any personal information we might access during the performance of our duties. (With HHS that's SSNs and medical information.) </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 10, 2008 12:47 PM by Lori Coulson&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #23 from Carl</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So... is "Sam Chevre" another way to spell "Sean Hannity"?  Because this is the sort of nonsense he does on a regular basis.</p>

<p>The political makeup of people who cannot make decisions that affect much are not useful statistically, but the affilitions of the political appointees who *do* make the decisions are.  Your argument (such as it is) is about as valid as saying "The pentagon was built during a Democratic administration, end therefore the building is unsound."</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 10, 2008  2:45 PM by Carl&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #24 from P J Evans</title>
         <description>comment from P J Evans on 10.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lori, where I work, I get ethics/harassment, safety, and records retention/management (just did that one yesterday, actually). Oh yeah, driver training, because sometime I might need to drive a company vehicle.</p>

<p>Every year, scheduled by the wonderful computers somewhere else. And we have to either sign a log sheet if it's a group class, or send a copy of the completion notice to a higher-up, for the on-line review class.</p>

<p>How Doan snuck out of hers I don't know, but I'd bet there are others who did, too. Probably all politically-connected, too.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 10, 2008  3:02 PM by P J Evans&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #25 from Ginger</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PJ @ 24: You can't sneak out of the mandated training. I'm also a Federal employee, and we all take the same training, across all the departments. I think what happens is the bad* political appointees disregard the training as "not applicable to them", and go on about their way of life. </p>

<p>Many Federal employees may well be Democrats, although I suspect this depends strongly on the Department -- DoD tends to run heavily Republican, at least based on my admittedly-small-sample-biased experience. </p>

<p>Digressing to the question of janitorial staff: as far as I know, there are no Federal janitors; cleaning is considered "not inherently governmental", and is thus a contractor's position rather than an FTE. I don't know if attorneys at the SEC are contractors, but some lower-ranking positions can indeed be contract, which leaves the person in that job without the same benefits/protections as the folks who are FTEs. The difference between contract and FTE are legalistic, and it's all about keeping the government "smaller". </p>

<p>*The good political appointees -- and I'm sure there are some, around here someplace -- wouldn't disregard the laws and regulations that make the Federal Government go. FedRegs -- not just the law, but a way of life!</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 10, 2008  3:33 PM by Ginger&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #26 from P J Evans</title>
         <description>comment from P J Evans on 10.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ginger, we had to do safety training <em>twice</em> this year, because the twit who ran the first meeting didn't pass a signup sheet.</p>

<p>Oh, yes, we also get 'affiliate compliance' training, because we're part of a larger company where some parts are regulated and some are not. It's who we can and can't talk to, and what we can and can't talk about with them. Best summarized as "Don't".</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 10, 2008 11:13 PM by P J Evans&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #27 from Ginger</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PJ @ 26: Signup sheets are your Friend! Never forget them, never throw them out, for you never know when the Safety Officer is going to call you up and ask for proof that everyone's been trained. </p>

<p>And it just so happened that I did. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 11, 2008  9:00 AM by Ginger&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #28 from Serge</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Ginger</b> @ 27... <i>proof that everyone's been trained</i></p>

<p>"Good girl, Ginger!"</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 11, 2008  9:06 AM by Serge&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #29 from Nancy C. Mittens </title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to audit to a federal standard (internal QA).</p>

<p>"If it ain't wrote down, it ain't done!"</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 11, 2008  9:22 AM by Nancy C. Mittens &lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #30 from Ginger</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Serge @ 28: "Blah blah Ginger, blah blah!"</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 11, 2008  9:26 AM by Ginger&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #31 from Serge</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Ginger</b> @ 30... I am reminded of that other <i>Far Side</i> where a dog is in his owner's car and he's all excited about the trip to the vet, because he overheard his owner say he was going to be tutored.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 11, 2008  9:32 AM by Serge&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #32 from Ginger</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Serge@ 31: Oddly enough, I love tutoring. </p>

<p>There once was a tutor of Tooting<br />
Who loved to tutor the flute-ing<br />
Though he sat at Miskatonic<br />
The scales were diatonic<br />
But the music was oddly neutering. </p>

<p><br />
 </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 11, 2008  9:52 AM by Ginger&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #33 from Serge</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Ginger</b> @ 32... Or, as the flea said, in another <i>Far Side</i> cartoon...</p>

<p>"What the...? Not only is the forest gone, but the mountains too!"</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 11, 2008 10:14 AM by Serge&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #34 from Paul A.</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ginger @ #32:</p>

<p>There once was a curate of Kew<br />
who kept a small cat in a pew.<br />
He taught it to speak<br />
alphabetical Greek<br />
but it never got further than "μ".</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 11, 2008 10:33 AM by Paul A.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #35 from Serge</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Paul A</b> @ 34... Is that what they call the kitty letter?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 11, 2008 10:46 AM by Serge&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #36 from Ginger</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Serge @ 35: I think your question is μ-t, but a-μ-sing. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 11, 2008 12:19 PM by Ginger&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #37 from Serge</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Ginger</b> @ 36... At least you didn't say I was <i>tau</i>ing the line.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 11, 2008 12:43 PM by Serge&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #38 from Jason Aronowitz</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the internet, nobody knows you're a...</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 11, 2008  2:04 PM by Jason Aronowitz&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #39 from Serge</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arf!</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 11, 2008  2:18 PM by Serge&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #40 from Xopher</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm not exactly an &alpha; male, thought I have done a fair amount of &beta;-testing.  I never fly on &Delta; Airlines.  Catharine &zeta;-Jones is not my favorite actress.</p>

<p>On the other hand, I am a little bit &psi;onic, and I may bake a &pi; tonight, possibly while singing &rho;, &rho;, &rho; your boat, but probably not.</p>

<p>Am I the only one who thinks &Rho;&Rho;&Rho; should be a crew fraternity?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 11, 2008  2:23 PM by Xopher&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #41 from Xopher</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>'Though', not 'thought'.</p>

<p>Dammit.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 11, 2008  2:24 PM by Xopher&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #42 from Carrie S.</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xopher @#40: Given the derivation, shouldn't your nom-de-net be pronounced "Chi-o-fer"? :)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 11, 2008  2:47 PM by Carrie S.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #43 from Ginger</title>
         <description>comment from Ginger on 11.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Χopher@ 40: You're making Π? Ω have a piece too? Can you γ a big piece? I'm so hungry I could η horse. M-k you very much. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 11, 2008  3:54 PM by Ginger&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #44 from Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers)</title>
         <description>comment from Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers) on 11.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ginger</p>

<p>I θ you'd want π. This being greek, we should probably have λ for a main course.  For a small φ, I'll bring a ν κ for you to wear.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 11, 2008  6:22 PM by Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers)&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #45 from Brooks Moses</title>
         <description>comment from Brooks Moses on 12.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carrie @42: That _is_ where the "Ksopher" pronunciation someone mentioned elsethread comes from....</p>

<p>My wife used to work with a vendor rep named Xenia; she and her boss earned major brownie points by being some of the few people other than Xenia's Greek coworkers who actually said her name correctly.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 12, 2008  7:52 PM by Brooks Moses&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Today&apos;s Captain Renault Award -- comment #46 from James D. Macdonald</title>
         <description>comment from James D. Macdonald on 12.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In some parts of Guatemala "Xerox" is pronounced "Sherosh."<br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 12, 2008  9:07 PM by James D. Macdonald&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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