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July 26, 2008

P - A - R - T - Y? ‘Cause I gotta
Posted by Abi Sutherland at 05:32 AM *

Kathryn, Serge, and sundry other lights of the firmament have arranged a Making Light party at Denvention!

Entire post has been rewritten to erase the historical record be less confusing:

- o0o -

We will will have dinosaurs: perhaps even shiny dinosaurs. We will have numinous luminous Fluorospherians. Eating light? Certainly. Eating chocolate? of course. Special appearance by Abi, through the magic of nets.

If you’re going to Denvention and think you might be dropping by that Friday evening, please leave a note here on Serge’s LJ (you can comment w/out a LJ account), so that neither too much or too little mammoth is ordered. You can also email Kathryn directly.

Details:
  • Friday the 8th,
  • Starting about 9:30pm—but the real-true start will be when the masquerade is done: many MLers will be in the audience or on stage (and that’s a priority and a must-see, especially if you haven’t been to a Worldcon masquerade before),
  • ending when it ends—maybe a bit earlier than that, we’ll see.
  • in the party hotel, #7 on the map. That’s 3 1/2 blocks from the C.C.= where the Masquerade will be held—in a 5000 seat auditorium—so everyone can go and see the Masquerade.
  • Room number to be found from Thursday afternoon under the name of Sanders Tim Walters on the voodoo/message board (near registration).
  • There will also be freestyle Rochambeau; see Kathryn’s comment 219 for details.

Is the party open or closed? The final answer is yes. Arrivals will be politely asked if they have RSVP’d to keep the random wanderers down.

Other Worldcon announcements of interest to the gathered community:

Bright yellow “Fluorosphere” Buttons made by Lee (Thank You!) will be at the Starcat Designs table, next to Instant Attitudes, in the Dealers’ Room. They have “Fluorosphere” and a lightbulb, and room to write your name.

If this is your first WorldCon, This guide, by Teresa, is good reading material. If you’re hosting or co-hosting at party, then How to throw a large room party at a science fiction convention (Also by TNH) will help you keep your sanity.

If you’re stuck for something to do before the party, Susan may still need more people for the Masquerade. Kathryn was going to do it, but the dilithium crystals in her cloning machine have cracked, and all it can produce are 3 inch high green copies. You must be able to walk and wear black at the same time. Contact Susan (email address available from her view all by in the usual fashion) for more details. Or sign up on Serge’s LJ thread.

Note that the party is designed to start after the Masquerade. You can do both for extra fun bonus points, which can be traded in for mammoths and dinosaurs. Sodomy not included.

Kathryn’s Twitter feed is available as kathrynsun, for additional entertaining and useful information.

Comments on P - A - R - T - Y? 'Cause I gotta:
#1 ::: KristianB ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 06:25 AM:

"We will will have dinosaurs: perhaps even shiny dinosaurs."

But will there be sodomy?

#2 ::: abi ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 06:32 AM:

Probably not at the party. Some things are more appropriate for a private context.

#3 ::: Dave Bell ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 07:06 AM:

You know, I don't think I have ever been to a party at an SF convention where there was the propect of sodomy, for anyone.

At least, not at the party.

I suppose I'm not in the 20th Century any more.

#4 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 07:19 AM:

I've been called many things, but a sundry light of the firmament?

By the way, Kathryn really is the one doing the work of putting this together. Me, I'll really be a gopher. Go for this! Go for that! And I'll be bringing some supplies in our minivan all the way from the heart of New Mexico.

As for having dinosaurs at the party... I still work on mainframe COBOL programs so I guess that makes me qualify. Kathryn had originally been thinking of renting dancing bears, but that was deemd too unsafe. What's that, Booboo?

#5 ::: Mary Aileen ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 09:48 AM:

Yay! *bounce* *bounce*

#6 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 10:17 AM:

Hmm. When they talk "dinosaurs and sodomy," I thought they meant FORCIBLE sodomy...and I'd hope there'd be none of THAT at the party, or at the convention at any time.

As for the consensual kind...yes, that would be inappropriate for the party itself. Otherwise...well, all things are possible!

#7 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 10:30 AM:

I'm having a kind of candy-maker's writer's block. I HOPE to have homemade chocolates there. If I don't make the liquid center ones today or tomorrow, there's almost no chance they'll be ready for the convention (they liquify* over a period of a week to ten days AFTER they're sealed).

So I'd better start melting chocolate.

*why doesn't Firefox know this word? Did I spell it wrong? It looks right to me.

#8 ::: Lin D ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 10:35 AM:

Second Mary Aileen! *bounce* *bounce*

We're driving in from LA. We don't have a lot of space, but willing to bring things. What's needed?

#9 ::: beth meacham ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 10:35 AM:

Firefox is unclear on a lot of useful words.

#10 ::: Erik V. Olson ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 10:45 AM:

Firefox is unclear on a lot of useful words.

Ranking it with most of humanity. As to the party, maybe.

#11 ::: Andrew Plotkin ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 10:49 AM:

Looks like "liquefy" is preferred.

Party, sure.

#12 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 10:51 AM:

Aha. Damn. Wow, I usually don't do that.

#13 ::: Joel Polowin ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 11:42 AM:

Xopher, how does the liquefaction work? Cold powdered-sugar paste dissolving at a higher temperature? Invertase enzyme converting sugar to fructose/glucose?

#14 ::: B. Durbin ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 11:50 AM:

I hope to be there! The boy may or may not be there— if he's there, he will probably be asleep.

Yes, even with party noises. He slept through fireworks, after all.

#15 ::: B. Durbin ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 11:58 AM:

Oh yeah, and I will be in the art show— just look for the stained-glass dragonfly tapestries.

One of which, to my everlasting annoyance, had no fewer than THREE fixes fail. I hate it when products don't work as advertised, particularly when they're $16 a can.

#16 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 12:00 PM:

Joel 13: Invertase.

#17 ::: Madeline F ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 01:02 PM:

I'll be flying out of the Bay Area, but I have a bag and a half of luggage space open, if it'd be useful.

#18 ::: Lance Weber ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 01:10 PM:

Joel @ 13: Xopher, how does the liquefaction work?

What Xopher isn't telling us is that the chocolate shell is really a cocoon...

#19 ::: Teancom ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 01:11 PM:

I have two questions:

1) How is there a Sci-Fi convention in Denver without me knowing about it? I live in the pan-handle of Nebraska - Denver is only a little over two hours away from me. I attended my first con (ever!) there earlier this year (Starfest) and I made a point of asking if there were any more cons coming up this year. Nobody knew nothing...

2) Why does the universe hate me? About a month ago, PZ Myers of Pharyngula fame had a meet and greet in Denver... about 8 hours after I flew out of Denver to go to New York for a week (business stuff). I probably passed him in the airport. And now? My one real vacation this year will be... that week! Of course! I'll be down in Las Vegas visiting family, leaving August 6th and getting back August 10th... Seriously, people. What have I done to deserve this?!

#20 ::: Madeleine Robins ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 01:31 PM:

Alas, I am flying in from the SFBA; elsewise I would happily bring stuff.

#21 ::: Joel Polowin ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 01:45 PM:

What Xopher isn't telling us is that the chocolate shell is really a cocoon...

As long as it's nothing like the glowy monsters / bioweapons which came up a couple of times in Girl Genius.

#22 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 02:32 PM:

Good heavens, was there anyone who didn't know that my chocolates are a bioweapon? I'm sorry I didn't make that clear. You see, I figure if I fatten up everyone around me, I look thinner. Fortunately for you all, they have to work by being enticingly delicious, and any toxins would be counterproductive.

Now I've REALLY got to get going, if I'm going to make the deployment schedule.

#23 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 03:03 PM:

Xopher @ 22... if I fatten up everyone around me, I look thinner

My wife would probably say that your plan won't work with me. She has this theory that all the calories I ingest go to another me in an alternate reality.

#24 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 03:06 PM:

Teancom @ 19... Back in 1983, there was a panel at the Baltimore worldcon about The Right Stuff. I skipped it because somehow I didn't really know what it was about. Then I saw the movie. What was so special about the panel? Well, it included Chuck Yeager, Gordo Cooper, Dennis Quaid and Scott Glenn.

#25 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 03:10 PM:

Serge 23: My wife would probably say that your plan won't work with me.

*mentally ups weight allocation for chocolates*

#26 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 03:23 PM:

Xopher @ 25... mentally ups weight allocation

It'll have to be upped way up because I'm losing enough weight these days that I now need a belt to prevent my pants from succumbing to gravity's pull. (Do I hear cries of "I hate you!")

#27 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 03:37 PM:

*plans to make more creams with real cream*

You have to understand something, Serge. My friend and ex is seriously underweight; during our entire relationship I was planning how I'd fatten him up. I probably won't be able to cook the asiago cream sauces at WorldCon, but I have other tricks up my sleeve!

#28 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 03:45 PM:

Xopher @ 27... I have other tricks up my sleeve!

I'd better increase my ungodly-hour visits to the gym to 7 times a week before the worldcon and after.

#29 ::: Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers) ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 03:49 PM:

While that is the week that the company I work at will be shut down, my time is completely spoken for*, so there's no way I can be at the party. I ask that at least one person there, at some point, drink a local microbrew for me.

* Finish puppy-proofing the house and yard, and go get the puppies. These will be the first dogs we've had since our border collie died three years ago, so we're getting really excited about it.

#30 ::: P J Evans ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 03:55 PM:

Alas, not going to be there. Besides, someone has to mind the cats for Lin D. (Whether the cats will mind me is a whole 'nother matter. Jewel will probably be glued to me anyway.)

#31 ::: Lin D ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 04:07 PM:

Microbrew: Friend has recommended I look up Left Hand Brewery in Longmont, a bit up Hwy25 from Denver.

Bruce, any preference?

#32 ::: Mary Aileen ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 04:48 PM:

B. Durbin (15): I'm going to be in the art show, too, with my weird stuffed animals.

#33 ::: Paula Helm Murray ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 04:49 PM:

PJ, cats just do not mind. It's in their nature. (though my oldest just used my petting her to wash her face -- she'd lick my hand, then rub her face against the licked spot.)

I wish I could be there, i will be there in spirit! Between my unemployment and Margene's breast cancer treatments, there was no practical way to go.

#34 ::: abi ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 05:08 PM:

So I get to go to the party, but not try Xopher's chocolates? Virtualization only goes so far.

TANJ.

#35 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 05:09 PM:

Hey Mary Aileen, is that a Janet Kagen-inspired Kangaroo Rex? I love it. Though the Crichton bear is cute too.

Damn. Janet was so nice. I miss her like hell.

#36 ::: Geri Sullivan ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 05:23 PM:

I'll be hosting the Reno in 2011 party on the 22nd floor, but I'll try to stop in -- toward the end of things rather that at the beginning, most likely.

Many thanks to Kathryn, Serge, and sundry other lights for arranging the party. Good idea!

#37 ::: B. Durbin ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 06:05 PM:

So Mary, what name are you registered under? (I'm under Yarnot, which is pronounced exactly the way it's spelled. Polish, not French.)

#38 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 06:12 PM:

Geri Sullivan @ 36... Like I said earlier in this thread, Kathryn really is the person who should be thanked. Me, I'm a gopher.

#39 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 06:15 PM:

abi @ 34... Well, you still have time to fly in. I'm sure that somebody would be willing to let you room in her/his home-away-from-home - provided the abiveld is kept under control.

#40 ::: Joel Polowin ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 07:03 PM:

Yarnot, which is pronounced exactly the way it's spelled

"Why-ay-are-enn-oh-tee"?

#41 ::: Lance Weber ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 07:18 PM:

Lin D @31: Friend has recommended I look up Left Hand Brewery in Longmont

I live in Longmont and will gladly endorse the recommendation. They are most famous for their Sawtooth Ale, an excellent amber. The thought occurs to me that I could just pick some up on the way down to the bacchanalia.

Two sidenotes: The brewery is located right next to the major scenic bike path that runs through town making it a convenient pit stop. Also, as you travel around Denver you'll see a lot of bumper stickers with a round white circle displaying a red left hand - that's the symbol for the brewery.

#42 ::: Mary Aileen ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 07:46 PM:

Xopher (35): Yes, the K. Rex is from Mirabile. I wanted to make a Mabob, too, but I didn't have the right fur. I'm glad you like them.

B. Durbin (37): My last name is Buss.

#43 ::: B. Durbin ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 07:47 PM:

Joel: Heh.

My usual problem is that people take one look at it and pronounce it wrong, thinking that it's French. Then they make the inevitable joke. Then they say, "I guess you've heard that before."

There is a reason I changed my name when I got married. And that even though I kept my maiden name (as a second middle name, though the IRS insists it's part of my last name), I only use it for art and not as a hyphenated name.

#44 ::: Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers) ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 08:01 PM:

Lin D @ 31

It's been too long since I was in Denver for me to have a useful opinion on local beers. I'd go with your friend and Lance on this one.

Skål!

#45 ::: Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers) ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 08:33 PM:

Mary Aileen @ 31

I like 'em a lot. But they're too cute to be really ferocious. Especially the K. Rex; you'd want to cuddle and pet him, and there he'd be, ripping your guts out. Not fair.

#46 ::: Mary Aileen ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 09:04 PM:

Bruce Cohen (45): Fair? Who said anything about fair? It's hard to rip someone's guts out with felt teeth, though.

And thank you.

#47 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 09:09 PM:

Mary Aileen...Obviously Bruce Cohen never saw a fluffy white bunny tear apart the Knights of the Round Table.

#48 ::: Nenya ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 10:05 PM:

Mary Aileen: the Crichton bear is fabulous. :D

Alas, I am on the other side of the country with no travel funds at the moment. I am glad a section of the fluorosphere will be able to gather in one physical spot, though. Woohoo!

#49 ::: Marilee ::: (view all by) ::: July 26, 2008, 10:16 PM:

Teancom, #19, the Worldcon is in different places every year, sometimes even out of NorAm. How do you feel about Montreal next year?

I'm not going to Denvention because I can't afford it, and because the last two Worldcons I went to completely exhausted me. I think even if I rented a scooter, they'd be too big for me. So you guys have fun and take notes!

#50 ::: Terry Karney ::: (view all by) ::: July 27, 2008, 12:17 AM:

This year... no dice. :(

But Montreal is on my list of beg, borrow, steal, hitchhike, hop freight trains, etc. to get to.

So... how might I take part in some aspect of the virtual presence?

#51 ::: elise ::: (view all by) ::: July 27, 2008, 03:25 AM:

I'll be there!

#52 ::: Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers) ::: (view all by) ::: July 27, 2008, 03:52 AM:

Serge @ 47

a fluffy white bunny tear apart the Knights of the Round Table.

All for a lousy pepperoni pizza? Not even worth if for a long pork pizza.

#53 ::: David Goldfarb ::: (view all by) ::: July 27, 2008, 04:29 AM:

B. Durbin @ 43: Did you used to post to Usenet under the name "Jan Yarnot"? If so, I remember you from there, but had not connected your new name with your old one.

#54 ::: Dave Bell ::: (view all by) ::: July 27, 2008, 05:19 AM:

I feel very lucky that Tabitha is the cat she is. She was playing, quite calmly, with one of the neighbour's grandkids, and it seemed to involve a dustbath intense enough to produce a grey kid and a grey cat.

Tabitha was hardly overjoyed at getting a bath, but didn't make trouble. And is now back to being a black-and-white cat.

#55 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 27, 2008, 06:44 AM:

Bruce Cohen @ 52... "Run away, run away!!!"

#56 ::: Jon Meltzer ::: (view all by) ::: July 27, 2008, 07:10 AM:

#50: This year... no dice. :(

Check the dealer's room. How many sides do you need? :-)


#57 ::: Mary Aileen ::: (view all by) ::: July 27, 2008, 08:37 AM:

Nenya (48): Thank you. I'm glad you like him. I also have more Farscape bears, although only Crichton and Aeryn will be at Worldcon.

#58 ::: Jo Walton ::: (view all by) ::: July 27, 2008, 09:27 AM:

I'll be there!

I could bring some decadent British chocolate.

#59 ::: Joel Polowin ::: (view all by) ::: July 27, 2008, 09:39 AM:

B. Durbin @ 43: My usual problem is that people take one look at it and pronounce it wrong, thinking that it's French. Then they make the inevitable joke. Then they say, "I guess you've heard that before."

I don't think things would be any different if people knew at a glance how to pronounce it correctly.

"Mannie, this little girl is Wyoming Knott and she came all the way from Plato to tell us how we're doing in New Hong Kong. Wasn't that sweet of her?"
She touched hands with me. "Call me Wye, Mannie -- but don't say 'Why not.' "

Many fans would take your name as a funny-once and assume that the joke was long-dead. But a painful minority are invertebrate punsters and figure that even if it wasn't a funny-always, everyone should get one use of it.

#60 ::: Joel Polowin ::: (view all by) ::: July 27, 2008, 09:47 AM:

Mary Aileen @ 42: I wanted to make a Mabob, too, but I didn't have the right fur.

Huh. Scales in badly-clashing shades of green -- I can't imagine where one might find a fabric that looked at all like that. I've been keeping an eye open for bright-green-with-black-splotches plush with thoughts of making a Winslow-cultist penguin, but not having any luck with that. (I also don't have clear memories of the real appearance of Winslow's plush, and can't find a picture on-line. I've only been in the presence once, about twenty years ago.)

#61 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: July 27, 2008, 09:51 AM:

Arggh. I posted this in the wrong thread:

Well, I have the cherry cordials' shells made, the brandied cherries in, and the brandy-thinned fondant (with invertase) poured. Now it remains to be seen whether I thinned the fondant so much that I can't pour chocolate on top of it, in which case I have to start all over.

That would suck.

OTOH, I've realized that the party isn't until Friday, so the invertase has until then to work its magic. So I have a little time to fix screwups.

Jo 58: Would that be chocolate from decadent Britain?

Joel 59: I imperfectly keep the rule that if I can think of a joke about someone's name, they've heard it 258 times prior to age 10. Every now and then I come up with one they haven't heard before (you'd be amazed how many guys named Swanson have never been asked if their sign is Gemini or if their mother's name is Leda), but I always try very hard not to do it.

My last name is Hatton. As in "do you have your hat on? Heh heh! Get it? Get it?" As in "hey, be a man, Hatton? Ha ha!" Eesh. Bow-ring! I just stare at them blankly.

You can see why I don't want to be one of these idiots.

#62 ::: Sam Kelly ::: (view all by) ::: July 27, 2008, 10:13 AM:

Even by the normal standards of name-punsters, that's bad. I can quite see why you wouldn't want to be the kind of chap who does that.

#63 ::: Faren Miller ::: (view all by) ::: July 27, 2008, 11:43 AM:

Mary Aileen (#46): It's hard to rip someone's guts out with felt teeth, though.

Seems to work just fine in today's "Bizarro"!

#64 ::: Mary Aileen ::: (view all by) ::: July 27, 2008, 12:16 PM:

Joel Polowin (60): Scales in badly-clashing shades of green -- I can't imagine where one might find a fabric that looked at all like that.

I could piece it together out of solid greens, but that's more work than I want to go to right now.

I've been keeping an eye open for bright-green-with-black-splotches plush

I found dull green with black splotches once, but no bright green. (And lately I've only been seeing the pattern with a dull blue background.)

Faren Miller (63): Good one!

#65 ::: CHip ::: (view all by) ::: July 27, 2008, 12:23 PM:

Denvention did not look interesting enough to stretch costs and vacation, especially since I'd have to leave before the dead-dog parties (IMO, the best part of many conventions) to get to my father-in-law's 75th birthday party. Now I'm regretting not cutting-and-fitting somehow.... Have fun -- and if somebody starts planning early enough, I'll be happy to pitch on for Montreal (we're certainly going, but I don't know whether we'll be committed).

Dave Bell @ 3: you haven't been going to the right parties (for a sufficiently elastic value of "right"). cf Discwave, or Phil Proctor(sp?)'s disappointed comment when he heard about a more successful version of same at another con.

Teancom@19: How is there a Sci-Fi convention in Denver without me knowing about it? Because
   1. Worldcons have become somewhat ingrown, or at least not moved with the times. Noreascon 4 had major publicity efforts, including Google ads, but the N4 chair also chairs the (academic) dept. of communications at Suffolk University; others have been less active.
   1a. There are also people who are actively suspicious of new methods, feeling that they'd pull in too many people who would change the feel of the Worldcon. I disagree -- I wouldn't like to see Worldcon become another Dragoncon, but it's already a 12-ring circus -- but I don't participate in the arguments any more. This may or may not have been a factor.
   1b. Worldcons are individual; they all require out-of-area people to operate, but may or may not take any governance hints from those people -- some have bad cases of NIHS. This means they'll have widely-varying ideas about how to publicize themselves.
   2. This specific concom appears to have been less effective than many. (I've heard a lot of flamage, not all of it from notorious flamers.)
   3. Were you looking? Did you know Denver also has an annual convention? Damfino how someone new would find out about either of them -- the recent thread on finding things on the web is based on people \looking/ for info instead of waiting to hear, and sometimes there's no spur to start a search.
   This is probably way TMI -- but you asked, and if you're interested there are ways to get info; the first listing from Googling '"science fiction" convention' gets a site headed by links to several major lists. (Even "sci-fi convention" gets a site; their description doesn't match my taste, but YMMV -- they do have a geographic search function, which the raw lists mentioned above lack.)

Xopher: considering you're the only person I've seen waving Indian clubs at a con, trying to fatten other people shows a certain lack of perspective.

#66 ::: Melissa (oddharmonic) ::: (view all by) ::: July 27, 2008, 12:42 PM:

Teancom @19: Denver's long-established annual sci-fi/fantasy convention is MileHiCon. It occurs every October.

Colorado Springs has an annual sci-fi convention in February, COSine.

Other annual cons in Denver include the anime convention Nan Desu Kan and gaming conventions Tacticon, GenghisCon and BenCon.

#67 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: July 27, 2008, 12:54 PM:

Sam 62: Yeah...and since I moved to the New York City area, everyone misspells my name 'Hatten'...which is understandable, but irritating.

CHip 65: Xopher: considering you're the only person I've seen waving Indian clubs at a con, trying to fatten other people shows a certain lack of perspective.

Um...Indian clubs?

Maybe you're referring to my poi-spinning with those heavy (and yes, I hit myself with them...ow) lightsticks at the most recent NorEasCon? I was at my slimmest then. I've chubbed up, I'm afraid.

But even so...if poi-spinning is a good cardio exercise ur doin it rong. Doin it rite requires minute, precise movements, but not (unfortunately) great expenditures of muscular energy.

Still, trading the poi-spinning hobby for amateur chocolatiering does partially explain my weight gain.

#68 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: July 27, 2008, 01:32 PM:

And the cherry cordials were, as it turned out, a botch batch.* I will try again today.


*I betcha that makes me a butch bitch, huh?

#69 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: July 27, 2008, 01:36 PM:

Btw the "people-note-connections board thingy" is usually called the Voodoo Board (because you stick a pin in it next to someone's name, so they don't have to go looking for a note unless their name has a pin next to it).

This is a gross misrepresentation of Vodun/Voudou, of course, but a much more convenient name than 'people-note-connections board thingy'. :o)

#70 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 27, 2008, 01:44 PM:

Xopher @ 69... you stick a pin in it next to someone's name, so they don't have to go looking for a note unless their name has a pin next to it

That brings back memories of 2006's worldcon. It's quite difficult to get into contact with a fellow ML person when you don't know her family name. Luckily she finally spotted me, aided by her knowledge that I'd be dressed as a Victorian Time Traveller.

#71 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: July 27, 2008, 01:52 PM:

Maybe we should all write our ML names on the Voodoo Board, in the correct alphabetic position. Then we'd have two places to check for messages, but an immediate clue which kind of message we were getting.

#72 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: July 27, 2008, 01:57 PM:

Serge, now that the comments at your LJ are getting lengthy, maybe some of the suggestions (mention your ML name when saying you'll be there; write your ML name on the Voodoo) need to be promoted to the main entry? If you want, of course.

#73 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 27, 2008, 02:07 PM:

Xopher @ 72... Done. Let me know if you think I should change the entry some more.

#74 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: July 27, 2008, 02:32 PM:

Serge: Eep! I'm sorry. You sound irritated there, and that was not my intent. I do apologize. It's your entry, and a great service to us all, and I didn't mean to dictate to you. I'm sorry if I came across as officious or anything like.

#75 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 27, 2008, 03:12 PM:

Xopher @ 74... Huh? What? Au contraire, mon frère. I had made a comment in response to someone else in that thread about its being better if they identified themselves in their posts, but later visitors may have not seen my request. I thought your suggestion to put something about it in the entry itself was an excellent one. Really.

#76 ::: B. Durbin ::: (view all by) ::: July 27, 2008, 03:15 PM:

Dave Goldfarb @ #53: "B. Durbin @ 43: Did you used to post to Usenet under the name "Jan Yarnot"? If so, I remember you from there, but had not connected your new name with your old one."

That's my mother. She'd usually refer to me as "The Resident Expert" or, occasionally, as "Stands With a Book."

She's still online, and a major hobby of hers is geocaching.

#77 ::: Michelle ::: (view all by) ::: July 27, 2008, 03:58 PM:

Hey all,

#65: I'm running gaming for worldcon...12 ring circus....hah...I'd give it at least 50. The thing is they aren't interested in bringing in the locals...it'll hurt eventually...aging population is not a good thing.

#66: Bencon is defunct. It's never coming back...there are efforts for a new benefit gaming convention in Denver though.

I'll be at gaming most of the time (in the party hotel)...but I'll have to try to get away for this.

#78 ::: Lance Weber ::: (view all by) ::: July 27, 2008, 07:52 PM:

Michelle @77: You have my deepest sympathy/empathy - I used to do ConHQ and ConCoord for Ghengis/Tacticon way back in the day, I'm sure wrangling gaming for this con will be crazy. And I agree with you in wishing WC wasn't so insular.

#79 ::: B. Durbin ::: (view all by) ::: July 27, 2008, 10:29 PM:

There is also Opus Con in the spring in Denver. They apparently didn't have one this year but they'll be back next year.

They do a pretty good job— the main thing is that it's a fantasy convention, rather than F & SF. But the two years I went they had great children's programming, the art show was run by Bruce & Cheryl Sundquist (sp?), the same folks who are running the Denvention show and who run the MileHi show, and the panels were small and helpful. I mean, it's really nice when you can have an artist actually paint a small piece and have everybody see what she's doing.

#80 ::: B. Durbin ::: (view all by) ::: July 27, 2008, 10:32 PM:

#71: I'm only Yarnot in the art show. Durbin is the quickest way to find me and Evil Rob.*

*Technically, his nickname is simply "Evil"** but I find that "Evil Rob" promotes clarity.

**He got that from work.

#81 ::: Charlie Stross ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 12:35 AM:

I believe I will be at Denvention. Under my own name, of course.

#82 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 12:39 AM:

Charlie 81: Which is what? :-)

#83 ::: Kathryn from Sunnyvale ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 01:11 AM:

Terry @50,

Skype and a webcam--that's what I've used before to attend a transcontinental brunch, and it'll be the setup for Making Party.

Have you used video on Skype before*?

I do not know [note2self, check this] if my laptop or Skype can do a split-screen mode (output) for video. I/we might need another laptop at the party to have multiple eDoors to the party [note2self, ask].

If you have or can borrow an HD webcam, that makes it better for putting you up on the TV set. I think it'll still work if not.

(Could also possibly do a live stream of the party via the cellphone, but that wouldn't be interactive without IRC or similar = not likely on top of skype prep.)

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* You might be able to test it with Abi. I'll email you when I've got mine set up.

#84 ::: Terry Karney ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 01:13 AM:

Well, I may have to forgo, as I am not possessed; nor do I feel one use will justify the aquisition, of a webcam.

Perhaps I will just open a chat window.

#85 ::: Marilee ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 03:52 AM:

The problem with my name is that people keep taking it in vain. "Even a layman could do this." Yeah, right, like we aren't skilled!

#86 ::: Dave Bell ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 04:00 AM:

CHiP @ 65, not only haven't I been going to the right parties, I'm not sure that some of them would be legal in the UK.

Even today.

#87 ::: Kathryn from Sunnyvale ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 05:20 AM:

Xopher @82,

is in lights, of course.

#88 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 06:06 AM:

Marilee @ 85... I know a scientist whose family name is Flake.

#89 ::: Skwid ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 11:32 AM:

I'll be there, of course, and if there's suitable music available I could throw a few photons about, as well. Xopher, don't know if you've tried it much, but hand-held light-stick dancing can be much more cardiovascularly intensive than poi-spinning, IME. More reliance upon gross muscles in the arms and shoulders than the fine muscles of the wrists.

Lin@31 and Lance@41, I'll third the reccy for Left Hand, although I prefer the Milk Stout to the Sawtooth. TTDV.

For those what need it, my surname is "Langlinais."

I recall someone was going to have "Fluorosphere" buttons available, but can't remember what thread that was in. Anyone?

#90 ::: ethan ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 11:53 AM:

Serge #88: I once met a Dr. Blob.

#91 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 11:57 AM:

ethan @ 90... I dare not ask what his/her specialty was. Meanwhile, when I was living in Toronto, I'd frequently walk past the house of Doctor Gore.

#92 ::: Lin D ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 12:13 PM:

Skwid @89: Milk Stout was recommended to me as well. Have car, planning on trip. Between the Chimay thread and recommendations from a friend who home brews, I want to try everything Left Hand has.

#93 ::: Tania ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 12:44 PM:

I'll be there - Serge has my contact information. Oh, I should send that to Susan too. Ok, that's done.

And on the odd/unfortunate name list is the Ex Chief of Staff here - Dr. Doolittle.

#94 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 12:51 PM:

Tania @ 93... I think that, in the 1990s anyway, the Bay Area had a lawyer's outfit called Dilly, Dally, and Doolittle.

As for the contact information... You fool! Bwahahahahah!!!

#95 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 12:57 PM:

Once, I took my wife to the ER and she was taken care of by Doctor Faust.

#96 ::: ethan ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 01:41 PM:

Right around the corner from my house are the law offices of Votta and Votta. I always want to sneak over in the night and add "Voom" to the sign.

#97 ::: Linkmeister ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 01:49 PM:

The doc who fixed a hernia for me 10 years ago was named Dr. Grief.

#98 ::: Tim Walters ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 02:03 PM:

I know someone who was delivered by a gynecologist named Harry Beaver (and I've seen the birth certificate that proves it).

#99 ::: Leslie in CA ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 02:53 PM:

My hometown had an OB/GYN named Dr. Fillerup.

#100 ::: Cat Meadors ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 03:31 PM:

There used to be a Dr. Moriarty in Bethesda Naval's pediatric unit.

And Dr. Foot is a DC-area podiatrist.

#101 ::: Jörg Raddatz ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 03:39 PM:

Re doctors' names:

Only funny in German, alas, but in this town, there is a doctor of dentistry and oral surgery called Dr.Spangemacher - literally "(Dental) Braces-maker"

#102 ::: Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers) ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 03:50 PM:

Faren Miller @ 63

Well, I guess someone objected strenuously to that cartoon (I rather liked it myself), because it's been taken out of the archive menu. The page itself is still there, as I confirmed by manually creating the url, but if you go to the link you gave, which is the latest strip, and try to use the dated drop down menu, that date, July 27, isn't in the menu.

Some people are really sensitive.

#103 ::: Terry Karney ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 04:01 PM:

Bruce (StM): I just followed the link... not available.

#104 ::: Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers) ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 04:04 PM:

Terry

If you mean the link I gave, I'm confused; I just tried it again, and it works fine.

#105 ::: Nicole J. LeBoeuf-Little ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 04:19 PM:

I'll be there, and I'm thinking really hard about bringing down some Boulder microbrews. A bottle or two of Redstone's mead, for sure. Maybe a coupla sixpacks from Twisted Pine or the Boulder Brewery. We'll see.

For identification purposes (because nametags don't always do the trick), Serge added the photo from the front of my website to the Making Light & Faces gallery. With commentary. It's a shame I don't do cosplay.

#106 ::: Ginger ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 04:29 PM:

I saw a listing for Father Dull in the county database years ago, and I know a veterinarian named Dr. Good.

#107 ::: Terry Karney ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 04:49 PM:

Bruce: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/artsandliving/comics/king.html?name=Bizarro&date=20080727

Comes up image unavailable. Is it possible you are reloading from Cache? I've had that happen when I tried to check things which had been pulled.

#108 ::: Lance Weber ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 04:52 PM:

Terry - worked for me.

#109 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 04:53 PM:

Nicole J. LeBoeuf-Little @ 105... Serge added the photo from the front of my website to the Making Light & Faces gallery. With commentary.

A very appropriate commentary, and, in fact, I'd go so far as to... Hmm... Nicole, what are you planning to do with that nice battleax?

#110 ::: Kathryn from Sunnyvale ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 04:56 PM:

Nicole @105,

With the recent threads and comments on the joy of local brews, I think your thoughts are encouraging / to be encouraged.

Because I've got a few other plates to spin*, I haven't yet gone back over older threads to properly research the most obvious noshes and sloshes for the Party, but a good beer has to top the list. hmmmm.

Top 6 Drinks of Making Light:
1. a locally handcrafted brew, served in glasses chilled by the vacuum between the stars
2. gingered lemonade
3. ?
4. ?
5. ?
6. ?

Top 5 Foods of Making Light:
1. Chocolate
2. Plums, from the icebox
3. Hot gingered shrimp and mammoth salad (unlikely to make on-site: I don't think standard rooms come with bbq pits)
4. ?
5. ?
6. ?

And while I'm not sure to what it would be appropriate, I'd think a schadenfreude pie could be relevant.

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* other projects to be put into motion / brought up to pressure. Making clients happy. Getting a non-street-legal artcar down from Portland. Finding a statistician. small things.

#111 ::: Terry Karney ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 05:00 PM:

There seems to be something else going on. I can't see any Bizzaro. Bizzare.

#112 ::: Terry Karney ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 05:06 PM:

Ok... I can see it when I use IE, but in the most recent FF 3.x.x it's borked.

Unless it's some odd artifact of adblock (which I can't seem to disable for just that page; though it will for all of the Wash Post).

#113 ::: Tim Walters ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 05:46 PM:

Kathryn @ 110: For ML cocktail I nominate the Sazerac (which I first heard of here, and which is wonderful) or the Vesper (which was discussed recently, and happens to be my current favorite, even though I have to use plain old Lillet).

#114 ::: abi ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 06:03 PM:

Kathryn @110:
Single malt is too dear, but Gibsons, maybe? Someone should bring the pickled onions.

#115 ::: Terry Karney ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 06:14 PM:

abi: Given my predilictions, Gibsons are about as pricey as single malts (in that there are several malts which are not so dear, and I enjoy, while there are only a few gins I can stand; and they are dear).

And TJ's has some very good prices, on some very good single malts.

But a gibson is more urbane.

#116 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 06:17 PM:

Will the party be serving trania?

#117 ::: abi ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 06:23 PM:

See, I stand revealed as a whiskey connoisseur and a gin barbarian.

I can live with that.

#118 ::: Tim Walters ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 06:30 PM:

Shouldn't that be "whisky connoisseur"? :)

#119 ::: abi ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 06:32 PM:

It's gone midnight here; you're lucky it was in recognizable English of any dialect...

#120 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 06:33 PM:

It's connaisseur.

#121 ::: TexAnne ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 06:34 PM:

Not in English, Serge.

#122 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 06:39 PM:

Oui, oui, TexAnne. I was just feeling silly. Quick, fetchez la vache!

#123 ::: Terry Karney ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 06:49 PM:

abi: I can drink Bowmore happily. I can get it (and some others) for 18-20 USD at Tj's.

My preferred gins, also at Tj's run 20-25 USD.

My preferred whiskies... are more expensive.

But this is talking parties.

And, with the Gibson, we'd have to add onions, and vermouth.

All in all, I'd be more than happy (were I there) with either.

#124 ::: Mary Aileen ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 07:15 PM:

Kathryn (110): I wouldn't call it a Top Drink of Making Light, but I hope you're planning on having some plain old (non-diet) soda/pop, or I won't have anything to drink.

#125 ::: joann ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 07:18 PM:

B.Durbin:

Wow, you are "Stands-with-a-book"? Smallish world.

#126 ::: Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers) ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 08:08 PM:

Terry Karney @ 112

I'm seeing it in Firefox 3.0.1. I tried clearing my caches and could still see it. Washingtonpost.com uses javascript, is that enabled on your browser?

#127 ::: Fragano Ledgister ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 08:13 PM:

Years ago, it was reported in Encounter (a literary journal sponsored by the Congress for Cultural Freedom, a CIA-front) that the physician responsible for the health of Hamburg's prostitutes was a Dr Bacchus.

#128 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 08:17 PM:

Back in the early 1990s, the head of Stanford University's psychiatry dept was one Doctor Dement.

#129 ::: John A Arkansawyer ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 08:19 PM:

Serge @ 128:Back in the early 1990s, the head of Stanford University's psychiatry dept was one Doctor Dement.

Oh.

#130 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 09:45 PM:

John A Arkansawyer @ 129...

Yup.

#131 ::: elise ::: (view all by) ::: July 28, 2008, 11:42 PM:

Kathryn from Sunnyvale:

Making Light drinks? Certainly various whiskies, whiskeys, whiskys, and uisgebaughs, or however one spells them. If served neat, though, they should probably be called disemvowelled.

(Sans eau, of course.)

#132 ::: Nicole J. LeBoeuf-Little ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 12:28 AM:

Serge #109: I'm going to paint it pretty colors. Mostly derivatives of red. I like the word carmine, don't you?

#133 ::: Nicole J. LeBoeuf-Little ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 01:15 AM:

Kathryn @110: I will be sure to continue thinking, then, the better to suit deed to thought. Mmm, mead!

#134 ::: B. Durbin ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 01:28 AM:

joann @ #125: "Wow, you are "Stands-with-a-book"? Smallish world."

Lies. It's all lies, I tell you.

#135 ::: Lee ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 01:36 AM:

Teancom, #19: In answer to your first question, a quick Google reveals that StarFest was a TV-oriented media-con. Denvention (and Worldcons in general) are literary-oriented cons, and a lot of the people who attend media-cons don't even know they exist. (This is an ongoing problem, and a source of much discussion in certain segments of organized fandom.) Unless you had just happened to ask someone who was also an organized-fandom person, the odds were very good that they wouldn't have had any knowledge of the upcoming Denver Worldcon.

You've got MileHiCon coming up in Denver at the end of October. I've been to one of those, and it was a fun con. When you get there, look for the freebie table and pick up flyers from other regional cons. Once you get hooked into the network, staying in it is easy -- but that first step requires some luck.

Skwid, #89: That would be me. The buttons will be available at the Starcat Designs table in the dealer room unless/until Kathryn or her designated representative picks them up from me, or I bring them to the party itself. (I still need to find out if we need to make more of them than I have left over from last year.)

Kathryn, #110: If I manage to drag my partner along, he'll be very happy if you can manage to have some decent-quality brewed iced tea (as in, buy it from the Asian or Indian grocery). He'll cope if you don't, but I thought I'd put the word in just in case. Me, I'll drink the gingered lemonade and be perfectly happy.

One thing I've learned from my Chocolate Decadence parties is that you really need some salty snacks if there's going to be a lot of chocolate. After a surprisingly short time, even the most dedicated chocolate-lovers get tired of undiluted sweetness.

#136 ::: Tania ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 02:18 AM:

Lee @ 135 - At the Chocolate Bashes I go to we have mole negro served with slices of pita. Yum.

I keep thinking about smoking some of the salmon that John caught earlier this month. But then I think about the truly unpleasant nastiness that could happen with luggage carrying fish (even well sealed cooked fish) and now am trying to come up with a better plan.

#137 ::: Kathryn from Sunnyvale ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 03:32 AM:

Nicole @132,
Can you email me? I'd like to start Making Plans with the set of people who will have vehicles in Denver.

Mary Aileen @124,
No worries, we will have a splendid assortment of drinks*, with and without spenda. I might even bring the Cream Soda station: a splash of cream does very tasty things to a soda. Think root-beer float.

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* I'm not particularly knowledgeable in things related to ethanol** and bartending, and will be requesting volunteers.

** because, in part, I've never been able to taste essential nuances: the bottle of Laphroaig that's sitting in my pantry would be wasted on me. I prefer any distilled essences in my drinks to be related to foods I eat. Grapes or honey or rasberries, yes. I do not eat oak.

#138 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 09:53 AM:

Nicole J LeBoeuf-Little @ 132... I'm going to paint it pretty colors.

That makes me feel so much better.
Eep.

#139 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 10:07 AM:

elise has been added to the ML gallery.

#140 ::: Skwid ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 10:34 AM:

In case any of you haven't seen it yet, the "Pocket" Programming Guide for the Con is now up.

#141 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 10:52 AM:

Skwid @ 140... Strange. The indexes list people by their first name then their family name. Thus Abi, if she participated at a panel, would appear under letter 'A'.

#142 ::: ethan ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 11:38 AM:

I'm jealous of elise's theremin. Or...um...my brain is addled right now. How do I say that so that it means I'm jealous of elise's having a theremin, and not that I really wish elise would wave her hands in my general vicinity?

#143 ::: NelC ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 12:33 PM:

Ethan, I'd think I'm jealous of Elise having a theremin works quite well, but I don't think many people would mistake your meaning if you say I'm jealous of Elise's theremin. Since the odd case of wanting Elise to wave her hands over you is so odd, I think you'd have to disambiguate that one, rather than mess around with the phrasing of the more likely case. Perhaps Lucky theremin, having Elise's hands waving over it; I'm quite jealous?

#144 ::: Michelle ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 12:48 PM:

#78: Ah yes, Tacticon and Genghis. I have a brand new website for them. Soon they will be out of Luddite land. But for those I just run Serenity games (plug: come play the first at Worldcon!) and maintain the website.

I'm less bald than the coordinators.

#145 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 04:01 PM:

Actually, if I'm not mistaken, that's from a party at Patrick and Teresa's. If so...that's actually my theremin. Ethan, you can come down to Hoboken and play it sometime if you'd like.

Hmm. I suppose I could try to bring it to Denvention...but I probably won't have enough space.

#146 ::: abi ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 04:10 PM:

Xopher, Xopher, Xopher...

"Come to Hoboken and play my theremin" does not win any chat-up line contests. Really truly.

#147 ::: Linkmeister ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 04:10 PM:

FedEx, xopher, FedEx.

#148 ::: Debbie ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 04:17 PM:

The potential entertainment value of trying to explain a theremin to the TSA is...OK, substantial, but probably not worth it after all.

#149 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 04:19 PM:

Debbie @ 148... Especially if we have to explain about Gort.

#150 ::: Joel Polowin ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 04:43 PM:

I had enough trouble explaining a pitchpipe to a TSA guy -- it had fallen to the bottom of my knapsack during my last filk con. I ended up telling him that it was kinda like a circular harmonica. (No, it wasn't the conjunction of "pitchpipe" and "filk" that confused him; I didn't tell him about that.)

#151 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 04:55 PM:

abi 146: How about "Come to my place and stroke my pole?*"

Linkmeister 147: How do you think I'm getting the chocolates there? Carried or checked, they'd be "confiscated" by some TSA goon for sure.

*Meaning the vertical antenna of the theremin of course. What else?

#152 ::: Joel Polowin ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 05:39 PM:

Years back, before air travel was the insanity of "security" that it is today, I was going through customs on my way to a con in the U.S. at a time of day when things were slow at the airport. The customs agent asked about the "food" that I'd noted on the form, and I told her about the chocolate chip peanut pie that I had with me.

Her eyes widened, and she said, "I think I need to, uh, confiscate that." Then she called over to her colleague at the next table, something like "Hey Marge, this guy says he's got a, uh, chocolate peanut pie. We 'confiscate' that, don't you think?" Her manner made it pretty clear that she was joking.

I asked her if she'd settle for a copy of the recipe, which I had with me. She ran off to the office nearby to make copies for herself and her colleague.

These days... nah, it'd probably be considered a dangerous substance, not allowed on board.

#153 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 05:41 PM:

They'd decide that ganache counted as "gel."

#154 ::: elise ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 05:57 PM:

It was Xopher's theremin, and a most excellent Xopher he was to bring it, too.

Xopher, that was really fascinating stroking your pole.

#155 ::: Bob Oldendorf ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 07:09 PM:

Serge at #149 Especially if we have to explain about Gort.

Here's the trailer for the forthcoming Remake.

(People who have seen this seem to be about evenly split.)

#156 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 07:18 PM:

Bob Oldendrof @ 155... I saw it on the big screen, and I have a feeling I'm going to HATE that film.

#157 ::: Wesley ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 07:34 PM:

I just went to the YouTube page linked at #155 and made the mistake of looking at the comments. My favorite started like this:

I was hopeful about this film but given the description of the movie something tells me it's going to be more f@%?ing fearmongering from the Lefty Looney Toons in Hollyweird...

Because, as everyone knows, the original Day the Earth Stood Still wasn't left-wing at all.

("I'm impatient with YouTube comments. My people have learned to live without them.")

#158 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 07:38 PM:

Bob Oldendorf... Sorry. That was an obnoxiously forceful comment.

#159 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 07:42 PM:

Wesley @ 157...

"I am fearful when I see people substituting fear for reason."

"Why doesn't the Government do something -- that's what I want to know."
"What can they do? They're only people -- just like us.
"People my foot! They're Democrats!"

#160 ::: Bob Oldendorf ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 07:52 PM:

Serge - oh, no apology necessary - my own instinctive reaction to the trailer was: "Wow - that looks unneeded."

People whose opinion I value thought it looked great.

Not having seen the movie, it's too early to actually have much of an opinion.

But yeah, the potential for Seriously Screwing Up A Good Movie certainly hovers over this project, and I too fear the worst.

#161 ::: ethan ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 08:08 PM:

I would be more willing to give the new The Day the Earth Stood Still the benefit of the doubt if it hadn't been directed by the guy who brought us The Exceedingly Boring and More Often than Not Laughably Bad Exorcism of Emily Rose.

#162 ::: ethan ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 08:09 PM:

Oh, and Xopher, I look forward to someday stroking your pole. In Hoboken.

#163 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 08:16 PM:

Bob OLdendorf @ 160...

Unneeded?
That pretty much sums it up.

Oh, the new version does look spectacular, but is that a good thing? You know, lots of sound and fury ultimatly signifying nothing? Heck, the original's idea of showing how powerful the aliens are was to show streets filled with paraqlyzed vehicles, and a comment that planes and hospitals were not affected.

What I'm afraid of the most though is that it's going to take the original's idea and betray it. Whatever that means.

#164 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 08:18 PM:

ethan @ 161... Never seen that movie. I got the sense from your comment that I should run away from it like it carried the plague.

#165 ::: Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers) ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 08:51 PM:

Serge @ 164

I should run away from it like it carried the plague.

It does: the mind-rot. Stupid, stupid movie. Watch the Yule Log instead.

#166 ::: miriam beetle ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 09:13 PM:

xopher,

When they talk "dinosaurs and sodomy," I thought they meant FORCIBLE sodomy..

really? from what i remember, from the original viable paradise (?) anecdote the joke came from, the story with sodomy which "needed more dinosaurs" was a sensitive gay love story.

joel,

I had enough trouble explaining a pitchpipe to a TSA guy -- it had fallen to the bottom of my knapsack during my last filk con. I ended up telling him that it was kinda like a circular harmonica.

during one of my recent trips, my electric eraser got taken out of my carryon & interrogated. they seemed to buy my explanation of it, although maybe they thought it was a sex toy for people with very specific tastes. um. which i do not share.

#167 ::: Lee ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 09:32 PM:

abi, #146: Oh, I dunno... it would certainly get points for, "Well, I've never heard that one before!"

#168 ::: ethan ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 10:14 PM:

Serge #164, Bruce Cohen #165: The only thing I liked about that movie was Shohreh Aghdashloo doing her best Eartha Kitt impression for the one nonsensical scene she's in, and even that I liked only because it was so ridiculous and over the top. The rest of it was a blandathon, and I wouldn't be surprised if director Scott Derrickson turns out to be a champion blandathlete.

#169 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 10:28 PM:

Bruce Cohen @ 165... Stupid, stupid movie. Watch the Yule Log instead.

Much as I enjoy having the Tree around as early as possible, Christmas in July seems a bit excessive for me. On the other hand, since my wife will be going thru knee-replacement surgery the week after the Election, there's nothing (nothing!) she'll be capable of to prevent me from putitng the Tree up before Turkey Day. Bwahahahah!

#170 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 10:32 PM:

ethan @ 168... I shall avoid that oeuvre of cinema then. Eartha Kitt impersonations or not.

#171 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 10:43 PM:

ethan 162: You can put your other hand in my loop as well.

#172 ::: elise ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 11:01 PM:

in Hoboken?

#173 ::: ethan ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 11:09 PM:

elise, if Xopher's pole's in Hoboken, I sure hope his loop is, too.

Er...because it would be hard to play his theremin otherwise. Why, what did you think I meant?

#174 ::: Paula Helm Murray ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 11:11 PM:

Serge, we've been so mixed up this year that our Christmas tree is still up in the dining room. It's a ginormous artificial tree and the place we usually put it in the basement is wet right now.

#175 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 11:27 PM:

And if you touch the loop, everything gets real quiet.

#176 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 29, 2008, 11:56 PM:

Paula Helm Murray @ 174...

Do the kitties love the Tree? Meanwhile, we've had the same (fake) 9-foot tree for almost 15 years and, every recent Christmas, my wife says that we really need a new one and I say we should give it one more year. We'll go thru the routine this year, I'm sure, but I'm ready with the perfect argument: Agatha the Cat Genius. When she sees her first-ever Christmas Tree, she will assume that we set it up just for her to play with and climb up.

#177 ::: Dave Bell ::: (view all by) ::: July 30, 2008, 03:05 AM:

It seems that most of the delays and hassles of air travel in America arise from the use of airlines. They're the people who lose your luggage, give unguided tours of airport taxiways, and do the sardine packing. And to get the privilege of using their services, you have to endure the many idiocies of the TSA security theatre.

On the other hand, if reports can be believed, there is a thriving service to business based on chartering executive jets. It bypasses most of the hassles. You get comfort and peace on the flight. And you can often dodge the more awkward airports.

Clearly fandom needs something similar.

The requirements, I suggest, include the ability to support a prolonged dead dog party.

Given the location of worldcons, large flying boats are sub-optimal, and there would be similar difficulties with a nuclear ekranoplan.

What do people think of airships?

#178 ::: Nicole J. LeBoeuf-Little ::: (view all by) ::: July 30, 2008, 04:46 AM:

Kathryn, I think I forgot to tell you: You've got Mail!

#179 ::: Kathryn from Sunnyvale ::: (view all by) ::: July 30, 2008, 05:32 AM:

Nicole @178,

I do have mail. Checking all folders, not only do I have a total of many tens of billions of dollars on offer from friends worldwide, I already have the bank accounts in which to keep the money--solid, security conscientious banks. Good thing, because with the 100k limit on FDIC insurance I'm going to be opening accounts at a few hundred thousand more banks.

But I don't seem to have anything from you*. Could you resend?

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* Although it's only been 40 minutes. I vaguely recall that in the last century emails could easily take that long. I wonder why or when my beliefs about email changed.

#180 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 30, 2008, 06:43 AM:

Kathryn from Sunnyvale @ 179... not only do I have a total of many tens of billions of dollars on offer from friends worldwide, I already have the bank accounts in which to keep the money

Does that mean you'll be renting a whole suite of suites for the party? And that we'll be served sweets? And sweet wine?

#181 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: July 30, 2008, 10:44 AM:

Well, as of this morning the second batch of cherry cordials* came out of the mold cleanly. Some are flawed, and it remains to be seen whether the invertase will hydrolyze all the sucrose and liquefy the centers in time. But they'll be tasty and they'll be there.

#182 ::: Lee ::: (view all by) ::: July 30, 2008, 10:52 AM:

Oooh, cherry cordials...

#183 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 30, 2008, 11:04 AM:

Xopher @ 181... the invertase will hydrolyze all the sucrose and liquefy the centers in time

"Scotty! I need those cherry cordials now!"

#184 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: July 30, 2008, 12:00 PM:

Are you finding my candymaking technobabble obscure, Serge? I'll explain. (Hmm, the <sub> tag isn't supported here; I'll just have to use the numbers in full size.)

Sucrose is C12H22O11. Invertase (my Annoying Candy Book's name for the enzyme more canonically called sucrase) catalyzes the hydrolysis (breakdown by water) of sucrose.

Glucose and fructose (the two sugars that make up a sucrose molecule) are different shapes of C6H10O5. Take two of those out of sucrose and that leaves an H2O.

Fructose and glucose are both more soluble in water than sucrose. In addition, a water molecule is freed for every sucrose so broken down. Hence the centers liquefy.

Sucrase is harmless, btw. In fact it might slightly aid the digestion of sucrose, since the body can't really use that sugar without breaking it down first.

#185 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: July 30, 2008, 12:07 PM:

Xopher @ 184.. In the days of the original Stra Trek, if Scotty had problems cooking up the Captain's new batch of cherry cordials, he kept the technobabble to a minimum, simply blaming the oven's dilithium crystals.

#186 ::: Joel Polowin ::: (view all by) ::: July 30, 2008, 01:53 PM:

Um? Glucose and fructose are both C6H12O6; breaking sucrose down into them requires adding H2O to C12H22O11. But the combination of small sugar molecules is more soluble than the large molecule, and there's still an excess of water.

#187 ::: Nicole J. LeBoeuf-Little ::: (view all by) ::: July 30, 2008, 02:47 PM:

Kathryn:

That is very bizarre, and I will resend Right Now.

It will come from

me

at

nicolejleboeuf

dot com

...and it's been sent!

#188 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: July 30, 2008, 04:00 PM:

Joel...I have to look that up again. I looked it up just last night though. OTOH calling it "hydrolysis" makes a lot more sense if you're right, and you probably are. I'm just learning this stuff.

#189 ::: Dawno ::: (view all by) ::: July 30, 2008, 10:03 PM:

I reserved a room at the Hyatt that I no longer need. I read at the Denvention site about transferring reservations, so if you need a place to stay, please contact me. The room has two double beds, city view, is booked at the con rate. If I don't hear by Sunday morning (pacific time zone) that someone wants the room, I'll be canceling the reservation. ohdawno(at)gmail(dot)com.

#190 ::: Rob Rusick ::: (view all by) ::: July 30, 2008, 11:31 PM:

Serge @183: "Scotty! I need those cherry cordials now!"

One of the maxims I picked up from The Mythical Man Month went something like: just because it takes one woman nine months to have a baby, doesn't mean we can get a baby in one month by assigning nine women to the task.

In other words, some things take as long as they take (fortunately for drama, the last 5 minutes should be sufficient).

#191 ::: Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey ::: (view all by) ::: July 31, 2008, 12:47 PM:

I've posted my own Denvention panel schedule, should anyone want to hear me talk, look me up, or meet me for the first time. I also hope to attend the Fluorospherian Assembly.

Photo to aid in recognition.

(Gotta do some Mars homework before Thursday.)

#192 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: July 31, 2008, 12:56 PM:

Oh, in case anyone had any doubt that Joel was right, he was. I had it exactly backwards. It works the way that makes sense (except that the solubility of the short sugars trumps the consumption of water, which is probably why I got confused).

My apologies for giving wrong information, and thanks to Joel for correcting me.

#193 ::: Carol Kimball ::: (view all by) ::: July 31, 2008, 02:36 PM:

I'm only caught up to 188, this came up in another conversation:

The insurmountable difficulty with cloning yourself to attend ALL the parties is that the alpha overwrites the others when re-combining. Sigh. And as for leaving a few going to do ongoing drudge work, well, we didn't want to do it in the first place, so why should they? NIMBY-analog with a vengeance.

#194 ::: Madeline F ::: (view all by) ::: July 31, 2008, 05:32 PM:

#193 Carol Kimball: Reminds me of a Amber Diceless roleplaying story... I think Erick Wujcik was the GM. There was a fellow with Advanced Shapeshifting, who for political reasons was forced to go to prison and stay there. After a couple weeks of this he got terribly bored, and it occurred to him to ask the GM: Hey, I'm a mindblowingly fantastic shapeshifter... Can I make a copy of myself? The GM blinks, keeps a straight face, and says, Sure. So he clones himself and explains the political situation to the clone, who is convinced to stay in jail. The original goes back to happily plotting on the outside. However, unbeknownst to the original, the clone thinks about this for a week or so, and decides that sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, clones himself, and sets off to explore the multiverse.

Indeed.

Pretty soon, the original has people slapping him in bars. Everywhere he thinks is neat, he's already been. He's occupying every niche he wants to be in. I gather it took the player months of attention to sort it out... :)

#195 ::: abi ::: (view all by) ::: July 31, 2008, 05:38 PM:

Madeline F @194:
The GM blinks, keeps a straight face, and says, Sure.

Red flag! Red flag! When the GM says yes that easily, change your plans.

(Says the one whose GM let her have shapeshifting for free in an Amber campaign, for her character(s)* with multiple personality disorder.)

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#196 ::: Kathryn from Sunnyvale ::: (view all by) ::: July 31, 2008, 05:51 PM:

If anyone attending the party has a food allergy that we can help with in our shopping, please email me* so we'll do what we can.

Two earlier threads regarding Worldcons.
Worldcongoing-- advice for your first worldcon by TNH. (for writers and everyone else, and a good reminder if you haven't gone for a while).

And...
How to throw a large room party at a science fiction convention, by TNH.

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* I generally don't buy peanuts, and we'll have the food packaging around whenever possible.

i.e. If there's a common party-food product where there's a good substitute, or if there's something that I can keep separate (the way I'd never put cilantro near any other food), happy to account for that.

#197 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: August 01, 2008, 04:39 AM:

Kathryn from Sunnyvale @ 196... How to throw a large room party at a science fiction convention

Throwing it isn't the problem. The problem is finding a mitt big enough to catch it.

#198 ::: Skwid ::: (view all by) ::: August 01, 2008, 03:45 PM:

Kathryn@196

...damn.

That old "first Worldcon" thread just made me miss Mike Ford. A lot. Damn.

:(

#199 ::: Kathryn from Sunnyvale ::: (view all by) ::: August 04, 2008, 01:38 AM:

Updates!

Bright yellow "Fluorosphere" Buttons made by Lee (Thanks You!) will be at the Starcat Designs table--jewelry & knickknacks, next to Instant Attitudes--T-shirts and bumper stickers, in the Dealers' Room. The buttons have "Fluorosphere" and a lightbulb, and room to write your name.

We will have assortments of foods and drinks, from all 8 food groups, at the party.

If you'd like to bring foods or drinks--representing your hometown*, or a recent discovery, or your philosophy of life--please do.

(if it requires tools/supplies, let us know in comments or email--we might have them on our supply list already). See comment 196 if you have a food you'd like us to avoid.

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* On an unrelated note to Canadians, did you know butter tarts are not sold in the US, neither fresh, nor in those suitcase-safe 12-packs
available at Loblaws?

#200 ::: abi ::: (view all by) ::: August 04, 2008, 02:23 AM:

Note changes to the original post.

#201 ::: Kathryn from Sunnyvale ::: (view all by) ::: August 04, 2008, 04:39 AM:

So, right about now in the party process is when I get a mysterious note in what could be my handwriting, except that it's oddly legible, saying:

"Now's the day to ask people a question about the party: what should I be asking you about the party?"

"What have I forgotten to ask you?"

I do know that the lists of the top 11 foods and drinks of Making Light could have more entries. Chocolate, plums...?
Local handcrafted beer, gingered lemonade,...?

I also should ask about that bottle of Laphroaig (gathering dust in the pantry) again.

#202 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: August 04, 2008, 06:16 AM:

This is the list of what I'm supposed to bring to the party:

- 4 large trash bags
- 2 Xmas minilight strands
- plastic forks & spoons (100 each)
- plastic knives (40 each)
- napkins
- paper towels
- paper cups
- straws for drinking

#203 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: August 04, 2008, 06:18 AM:

If this is Schrödinger's Party, should we bring a cat box?

#204 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: August 04, 2008, 06:32 AM:

Kathryn @ 201...

I've updated the signup thread accordingly.

#205 ::: Kathryn from Sunnyvale ::: (view all by) ::: August 04, 2008, 12:17 PM:

Have you ever wanted to be on stage, wonderfully costumed (well, in black, carrying a wonderful costume) along with a merry flock of Fluorspherians? See the Masquerade from the inside?

Susan needs another person for her group costume set. I had to bow out, because there'll be prep that overlaps w/ it. Note that the party itself is designed to start afterish the Masquerade (I'll be getting real-time updates)-- everyone should go. Big theater too: everyone gets a good seat...
But the best seat is standing, on stage.

(link to her description/ comment will be below).

#206 ::: Ginger ::: (view all by) ::: August 04, 2008, 12:53 PM:

Serge @ 203: Maybe.

#207 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: August 04, 2008, 01:13 PM:

OK, I just shipped the chocolates. To myself, care of the hotel. There WILL be chocolates at the party, barring shipping disasters or outright theft. I made six different kinds, three of which are brand new (variations on old stuff, but things I've never done before).

I am trying not to think about the catastrophic truffle core breach, or the innocents who lost their lives waste of time and chocolate that it represents.

Kathryn 205: Where is this link, now?

#208 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: August 04, 2008, 01:15 PM:

Ginger @ 206... I don't know. I'm uncertain anyway.

#209 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: August 04, 2008, 01:17 PM:

Kathryn from Sunnyvale @ 205... I think you left out the link. Anyway, I'm ready for Susan's masquerade. I spent a total of $2.64 for my costume.

#210 ::: Tania ::: (view all by) ::: August 04, 2008, 02:07 PM:

Serge, I just have to wear black from head to toes and fingertips. So I don't have to buy anything at all! Woo hoo!

Now if I could only think of something local and good to bring to the party that wouldn't be a PITA to transport/store. I have 36 hours to come up with something...

#211 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: August 04, 2008, 02:11 PM:

Tania @ 210... Did you finally find Ursa boots?

#212 ::: Kathryn from Sunnyvale ::: (view all by) ::: August 04, 2008, 02:21 PM:

I'm on a device w/out good search& copy. This is the link's info. Could someone w/a real computer linkify?

Open thread 108 post #192 by Susan: May 16, 2008, 07:11 AM

#213 ::: Kathryn from Sunnyvale ::: (view all by) ::: August 04, 2008, 02:21 PM:

I'm on a device w/out good search& copy. This is the link's info. Could someone w/a real computer linkify?

Open thread 108 post #192 by Susan: May 16, 2008, 07:11 AM

#214 ::: Tania ::: (view all by) ::: August 04, 2008, 02:35 PM:

Alas, no. Still searching for the perfect Ursa/Mistress Tania boots. I have a few contenders, but nothing definite.

I'm going to wear flat heels for the masquerade, unless the other person wrangling Sol is significantly taller than myself. Seems like a safer decision.

#215 ::: abi ::: (view all by) ::: August 04, 2008, 02:38 PM:

The link is here, and the relevant content is:

I will need about fifteen more people to go on stage with. Serge, foolish man, has already volunteered. Anyone else want to play? Most people would only need to wear black and stroll slowly across the stage carrying a sign.

Susan's email address can be extracted from her (view all by) in the usual fashion. I won't put it here, because I don't want to add to her spam load without her explicit permission.

#217 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: August 04, 2008, 03:01 PM:

Tania @ 214... Still searching for the perfect Ursa/Mistress Tania boots.

It's probably just as well because, if you had found the perfect Ursa boots, I'd have had to find the perfect Zod boots.

#218 ::: cgeye ::: (view all by) ::: August 04, 2008, 06:23 PM:

I'll be there, with my bag (thanx TNH!).

#219 ::: Kathryn from Sunnyvale ::: (view all by) ::: August 04, 2008, 07:36 PM:

In honor of the spirit of The Games opening on Friday, we will have the

Singles and Doubles Freestyle Rochambeau Competition

starting early, randomly occurring until late. Exact rulessuggestions for Doubles Freestyle to be discovered.

What is Freestyle Rochambeau?
It started with Rock, Paper, Scissors;
Rock, Paper, Scissors, Lizard, Spock;
and then came the N=7, 9, 15 and 25 versions
Now the charts are up to RPS 101.

But Why Stop at 101? Who needs charts?

Ultimate Rochambeau--Freestyle Rochambeau-- is N by N.

There's at least 50,000 nouns in the English language, and many more noun phrases, concepts, verbs. If two things can be compared--and everything can--they're good.

#220 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: August 04, 2008, 07:48 PM:

So like fire burns pot, pot boils water, water quenches fire? Like that?

#221 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: August 04, 2008, 08:06 PM:

Kathryn @ 219... I guess that dashes my last faint hopes that the evening's entertainment would involve bears.

#222 ::: Kathryn from Sunnyvale ::: (view all by) ::: August 04, 2008, 08:39 PM:

Yes, like that, but no verbs needed. The players (and player-judges) can just go with one's natural intuition, including context.

Some examples, starting with Kirk, because he's one of those power-words that gets used early:

Kirk vs Daleks? Kirk wins everything, so easy: Kirk.

Kirk vs Pride? W.S.'s behavior didn't help him get into the latest Star Trek movies, so I'll go with Pride. Pride wins.

Knitting vs Voltage? Voltage.

Knitting vs Time? Knitting.

#223 ::: TexAnne ::: (view all by) ::: August 04, 2008, 08:44 PM:

But Kathryn, wool and bamboo are nonconductors. So knitting wins.

#224 ::: Clifton Royston ::: (view all by) ::: August 04, 2008, 09:13 PM:

As long as it's not the South Park version of Rochambeau. (Or the Holy Modal Rounders version.)

#225 ::: Clifton Royston ::: (view all by) ::: August 04, 2008, 09:18 PM:

P.S. If I'm sitting here making snarky comment, it's 'cause I envy all y'all. Hope you have a fantastic time!

#226 ::: John Houghton ::: (view all by) ::: August 04, 2008, 09:23 PM:

So, say, "pot" "kettle" could go either way depending on, perhaps, whether they are judged on "politeness" or "initiative"? Some of the entertainment will certainly come from judges arguing their points to convince the jury.

This could get overly wonderfully complex. Perhaps complex enough to require time rules.

#227 ::: John Houghton ::: (view all by) ::: August 04, 2008, 09:26 PM:

I find it amusing that a Google search on Making Light currently returns:
"Also,there’ll be note for “Making Light” on the people-note-connections board thingy. Is this an Open or Closed party? Yes. It is currently a Schrodinger’s ..."

(I'm lazy and am at a library computer)

#228 ::: Dave Bell ::: (view all by) ::: August 04, 2008, 11:28 PM:

I want this masquerade thing to be on YouTube as soon as possible after the performance.

#229 ::: Kathryn from Sunnyvale ::: (view all by) ::: August 05, 2008, 04:37 AM:

Note new updates to the Party post.

One of the biggest events of a Worldcon is the Masquerade, and Susan has a group entry this year. The masquerade is a must-see, and what better way to see it than up close from behind* the curtain?

She needs three more volunteers, joining a crew that includes Serge, Tania, and many more.

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* and then in front, crossing to stage right, with ninjas guiding you and thousands of cheering folks in the audience.

#230 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: August 05, 2008, 08:45 AM:

Kathryn from Sunnyvale @ 229... Thanks. I just opened a thread HERE. Those three bodies (and their brains) would be very appreciated.

#231 ::: Ginger ::: (view all by) ::: August 05, 2008, 10:09 AM:

Serge @ 230:" Those three bodies (and their brains)"

Somehow, that just doesn't sound -- well, it's a masquerade, it can't be normal. Sadly, I will not be in attendance to find out exactly what that means. You'll just have to post it to YouTube as soon as possible, as Dave Bell suggested.

#232 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: August 05, 2008, 10:42 AM:

Ginger @ 231... You probably thought the presentations involved zombies. I could have asked for volunteers, but asking for bodies does get people's attention doesn't it? As for posting this on YouTube, I'm sure that'll happen as soon as possible.

#233 ::: Tania ::: (view all by) ::: August 05, 2008, 01:39 PM:

If you're not especially extroverted and not short but are intrigued by the masquerade, I recommend joining me in helping Sol progress across the stage. We'll be dressed completely in black and just have to carry the prop and make some appropriate noises. As one of my cow orkers would say -- "easy peasy". It'll be fun!

#234 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: August 05, 2008, 01:47 PM:

Tania @ 233... Two of the missing bodies have been found. That leaves one to be unearthed. Know anybody you can blackmail into joining the madness?

#236 ::: Kathryn from Sunnyvale ::: (view all by) ::: August 05, 2008, 06:39 PM:

Food and Drink update:

As civilized and drink-of-the-gods it is, I/we are leaning against having tea there. Many people, small room, warm-to-hot days: would there be much demand?

Help or advice request:
While I've read various guidelines, I don't have personal experience with Drinks at Worldcon parties, the traditions and rulez thereof. In parties at home we'll have sodas and lemonade, and guests bring other types of libations.

If you have thoughts on this, or are thinking about bringing drinks, could you email? We are thinking about offering some local handcrafted items.

(and I've not heard back about the bottle of Laphroaig I could bring. Could, or should?)

#237 ::: Tania ::: (view all by) ::: August 05, 2008, 06:42 PM:

Joel @ 235 - Hee! I love Girl Genius.

Serge, I'm trying. I've mentioned it to the attendees I know that aren't necessarily ML regulars. No takers as of yet.

#238 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: August 05, 2008, 11:11 PM:

Tania @ 237... Were you dressed as Ursa when you asked 'nicelly' for volunteers - or for bodies?

#239 ::: Kathryn heading to Denver ::: (view all by) ::: August 06, 2008, 01:28 AM:

Tuesday Update:
The test uploading of Abi into the Nets worked, so we expect to have a Turing-complete version of her
at the party.

If you wish, B.Y.O.BLibations to share, educate, or entertain.

We will have a tub, coolers, cups, ice, tongs, examples of locally handcrafted ales, fresh lemonade, ginger lemonade, sodas, real-true-cream-soda, etc. Plus Xopher's chocolates, and various other shiny and/or tasty things.
No liquid nitrogen, alas.

After 3pm or so Wednesday, Lee at the Starcat Designs table, next to Russ at Instant Attitudes, in the Dealers’ Room, should be one of the first Fluorosophers to have the room number.

New RSVPs always welcome at Serge's page.

[Susan has found two more volunteers for her group masquerade project, so the search is down to one]

#240 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: August 06, 2008, 06:23 AM:

Kathryn @ 239...

The test uploading of Abi into the Nets worked. As for New RSVPs on my LiveJournal's special thread, I'm not sure how much internet access I'll have, so you might want to keep an eye on new messages there.

#241 ::: Kathryn from Sunnyvale ::: (view all by) ::: August 06, 2008, 06:54 AM:

Serge--good point on internet access.

I know I can access my yahoo email via my phone, so anyone reading here who hasn't RSVPed and would like to (it helps with the planning),
* leave a note on Serge's LJ AND
* email a quick note to me.

The same goes for BYOB/Libations: email me if you'll be bringing food or drink (so we avoid shopping redundancy), or need prep space, extra equipment (which we might already have), etc.

See you today!

#242 ::: Kathryn in Denver, with Twitter, ::: (view all by) ::: August 06, 2008, 02:24 PM:

O hai
In Colorado, seeing faint hints of downtown westward.

I haz a twitter feed: kathrynsun

Updates will go there, here, and elsewhere.

#243 ::: Tania ::: (view all by) ::: August 06, 2008, 06:39 PM:

I can confirm a Kathryn is at Denvention, as is an Elise and a Lee. No sign of Serge....

#244 ::: Lance Weber ::: (view all by) ::: August 06, 2008, 07:35 PM:

I ordered a Colorado State Patrol Deluxe Cavity Search for Serge - they were supposed to deliver it at Raton Pass. Hopefully it didn't delay him too much :)

I'll be heading down tomorrow morning - looking forward to seeing/meeting folks!

#245 ::: Clifton Royston ::: (view all by) ::: August 06, 2008, 08:17 PM:

Lucky bums, I will be with you in spirit while my body languishes in captivity. (Aka work, child-raising, usw.)

#246 ::: P J Evans ::: (view all by) ::: August 06, 2008, 09:58 PM:

There ought to be a Lin D somewhere in the area, also.

I'm minding the cats, who are, at the moment, not minding me. Lucky me.

#247 ::: Kathryn from Sunnyvale in Denver ::: (view all by) ::: August 06, 2008, 10:01 PM:

Now here, roominated, and caffeinated enough to pass a Kathryn-Turing test for at least 5 minutes.

The Voodoo board will have room information* through Tim Walters--lookup his name, starting on Thursday afternoon.

Also look for the fluorosiphisors wearing their bright yellow buttons.


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* We (in the imperious sense) will be asking folks if they have RSVP'd at the door, as a polite way to keep crowds down. The room is good for chocolates and conversation, less so for a full party circuit crowd. (and the room is on the corridor between the elevators and several bid parties)

#248 ::: Nicole J. LeBoeuf-Little ::: (view all by) ::: August 07, 2008, 01:05 AM:

Do you know, the Grand Hyatt (at 1750 Welton, not to be confused with the Hyatt Regency where the readings happen) charges you for ethernet (that's the one with the actual wire) $10 a day per computer?

What sense can this make? Only one of us is using the damn thing at a time! (Smacks self for forgetting to bring router)

The kind man at the front desk waived the second charge for me as I spluttered on about how we already paid. Eventually it came out that we had two different laptops, at which point the light dawned. I am abusing his kindness in waiving the charge like mad, because eventually these 24 hours will wear out.

It's almost enough to make me pay for a tmobile daypass. Or to wander out in the rain and sit down at one of the 16th Street Mall chessboard tables for my free 2 hours on DenverMallFreeWiFi or whatever that dang SSID is that you can get from the window seat in the Pizza Hut but not from the tables across the room.

John is now attuned to your twitters, Kathryn. (My own cell phone has an unfortunate "get off my lawn!" attitude toward SMS.)

#249 ::: abi ::: (view all by) ::: August 07, 2008, 04:03 AM:

Please note that the post here has been updated.

#250 ::: Nicole J. LeBoeuf-Little ::: (view all by) ::: August 07, 2008, 11:47 AM:

Plugging the Random Local Yummy Shop:

Common Grounds Coffee House is at 17th and Wazee. (Take the 16th Street Shuttle west two blocks past Market Street Station. Get off and walk one block North. We're talking about the corner that's one block from Olde Historique Union Station.) It has delicious coffee, perfectly good tea, breakfast pastries, croissant sandwiches, and a locally distributed delicacy called "Breggo". This is sort of like a breakfast calzone.

Also, free wi-fi.

This has been your Random Local Yummy Shop Plug. We now return you to your regular WorldCon Party Thread, already in progress.

#251 ::: Lin D ::: (view all by) ::: August 07, 2008, 12:15 PM:

I don't have time to read the last half of the thread, but I've been told I'm supposed to RSVP. Consider me rizvipped.

#252 ::: Lance Weber ::: (view all by) ::: August 07, 2008, 12:27 PM:

Mmmm, sausage breggo's ftw!

Ohhh, we should have the ML after party at Sam's #3 Diner!!

#253 ::: Nicole J. LeBoeuf-Little ::: (view all by) ::: August 07, 2008, 01:05 PM:

Plugging the Random Local Yummy Shop:

Common Grounds Coffee House is at 17th and Wazee. (Take the 16th Street Shuttle west two blocks past Market Street Station. Get off and walk one block North. We're talking about the corner that's one block from Olde Historique Union Station.) It has delicious coffee, perfectly good tea, breakfast pastries, croissant sandwiches, and a locally distributed delicacy called "Breggo". This is sort of like a breakfast calzone.

Also, free wi-fi.

This has been your Random Local Yummy Shop Plug. We now return you to your regular WorldCon Party Thread, already in progress.

#254 ::: Nicole J. LeBoeuf-Little ::: (view all by) ::: August 07, 2008, 01:08 PM:

Sorry for the double-post - opened up the laptop and saw Firefox's big "timed out" page and thought I'd hibernated the 'puter before it could send the post this morning. Never resend without hitting back, that's my lesson.

Am at Grand Hyatt awaiting Connie Willis's reading, having just enjoyed Carrie Vaughn's. SSID is apparently "AAO". Bubba Gump is across the street, looking like a tasty lunch option. Yes, chain; yes, hype-Cajun; yes, but.

#255 ::: Nicole J. LeBoeuf-Little ::: (view all by) ::: August 07, 2008, 01:10 PM:

Lance - I was just thinking about Sam's #3 @Curtis this morning as I was heading down to Common Grounds. Never actually saw that one before. You'd recommend? Quick, make with the pocket-review!

#256 ::: Lance Weber ::: (view all by) ::: August 07, 2008, 03:24 PM:

At my first panel: MilSF & Liberals with authors OMG :)

Sam's is an awesome greasy diner. Best afte 10pm

On my iPhone - expect terseness

#257 ::: kathryn in Denvention ::: (view all by) ::: August 07, 2008, 08:32 PM:

there is also now an entry in an obvious spot on the mssg board. but if you can read this comment and have rsvp'd (I'm checking emails and Serge's LJ), then oom-ray entytwoway and ix teen, say

#258 ::: Nicole J. LeBoeuf-Little ::: (view all by) ::: August 07, 2008, 09:48 PM:

Sam's is an awesome greasy diner. Best after 10pm.

Most excellent. It's good to have wee-hour alternatives to room service. :-P

#259 ::: Kathryn in Denver ::: (view all by) ::: August 07, 2008, 10:18 PM:

Note: RSVPs are "or" not "and" = one is enough.

#260 ::: Paula Helm Murray ::: (view all by) ::: August 07, 2008, 11:03 PM:

everyone provide a trip report. Right now I'm both sad and jealous. Not a good combo. But i'd rather be employed and have money coming in so we can pay for important stuff.

If I were there, it would be the first worldcon in about 7 years where I did not have other obligations and would be able to volunteer for SFWA stuff. And do other fun things, just for fun.

#261 ::: Dave Bell ::: (view all by) ::: August 08, 2008, 02:23 AM:

Since this auspicious event will be taking place at about 04:30 Saturday, by my local time, it hardly seems worth trying to exploit the net just to say "bleargh" to somebody in Colorado. And I'd probably get in the way of a virtual-abi.

But if somebody could email me with useful details, and you guys can keep the party going long enough, anything might happen.

#262 ::: Antonia T. Tiger ::: (view all by) ::: August 08, 2008, 02:32 AM:

Dave, why don't you fire up "Lakeside", Or is your ISP playing silly buggers over non-HTTP bandwidth?

(Multi-player text-based Adventure-style game setting—a slightly-warped furry version of Wildcat Island. I don't think he built the submarine pen.)

#263 ::: abi ::: (view all by) ::: August 08, 2008, 02:59 AM:

Dave @261:

I'm in Amsterdam, so it's worse for me than for you in Blighty. I have a very good coffee maker.

We're using Skype, which is (unfortunately) a 1:1 connection for video conferences. But if this works out, maybe we can do more con parties like this, and explore alternate, more flexible video conferencing solutions.

#264 ::: Dave Bell ::: (view all by) ::: August 08, 2008, 03:44 AM:

abi, that extra hour time difference, bringing the nominal start to 05:30, is in yout favour. I was awake and grabbing breakfast about 06:15 today, so 05:30 does seem attainable.

I'm not sure I have enough reliable bandwidth for video. I find YouTube is stuttering a lot, these days.

And I doubt I have the same ease of arranging a full coffee-and-breakfast service as you do.

I've just been checking, and zhochaka.dnsalias.org still seems to be working. So I could get Lakeside running. But it's probably too late to organise. And isn't there some sort of virtual fan lounge already?

To be honest, it's hard to work up the enthusiasm. People go the worldcons, but nobody seems to say anything about it afterwards. It looks like a fannish Fight Club. Or maybe a singularity. People post reports as they drive, or fly, across America, but nobody ever says they get there. The airliners queue on the infinite taxiways, time and space stretching as they get closer to that fannish event horizon.

Maybe the masquerade only takes place in a photographic studio hired by the editor of Locus? If the Moon landings can be faked, why not the Worldcon?


#265 ::: Lance Weber ::: (view all by) ::: August 08, 2008, 10:15 AM:

Abi - you might want to check out this skype app: http://www.mebeam.com/ I haven't tried it yet, but it's on my TODO list :)

#266 ::: P J Evans ::: (view all by) ::: August 08, 2008, 10:18 AM:

@264
Much more prosaic: they're too busy to blog (or comment) while at Worldcon. (Eating and sleeping and getting to whatever you're going to on time are hard enough.)

#267 ::: Jason ::: (view all by) ::: August 08, 2008, 10:29 AM:

Haven't posted here before, but ought to say hi before dropping in on the party - have been lurking for a while, and this seems like a good opportunity to delurk and put at least some faces to names. So I'm RSVPing. (And my spouse, Sylvia, has asked me to RSVP on her behalf, so she doesn't have to leave a comment that's more or less equivalent in content. So she's RSVPing, too.)

#268 ::: Michelel ::: (view all by) ::: August 08, 2008, 10:54 AM:

If you need something to do before and after the party drop by gaming. We're at the top of the escalators on the way to the Con Suite in the Sheraton.

We're even having a Fluxx Tournament Saturday!

#269 ::: Dave Bell ::: (view all by) ::: August 08, 2008, 08:05 PM:

P.J @266

It's the lack of post-con reporting which bites.

I went to a worldcon. I pubbed my ish, dammit!

Young people today. Grump, grump, grump...

#270 ::: kathryn in denver ::: (view all by) ::: August 08, 2008, 08:29 PM:

Dave--
I've been following the "Meta Meta" track here at the con.

Just now seeing "Introductions: Hartwell on Dozois's Best of Asimov's Commentary, 1950 to 1965"

#271 ::: xeger ::: (view all by) ::: August 08, 2008, 10:00 PM:

I'd wonder about either IRC or a jabber 'room' -- both are pretty easy to get to (albeit text only) for anybody (even low bandwidth)...

#272 ::: abi ::: (view all by) ::: August 09, 2008, 12:19 AM:

Um...hello? Waiting for someone to connect to me at the party...

#273 ::: Dave Bell ::: (view all by) ::: August 09, 2008, 01:38 AM:

Did anything happen?

#274 ::: abi ::: (view all by) ::: August 09, 2008, 01:48 AM:

Yes, but they didn't bring speakers. So I've been typing and holding up signs.

#276 ::: abi ::: (view all by) ::: August 09, 2008, 03:20 AM:

Thanks! It worked in the end.

#277 ::: Dave Bell ::: (view all by) ::: August 09, 2008, 03:33 AM:

Glad something worked for you, abi.

#278 ::: Dave Bell ::: (view all by) ::: August 09, 2008, 03:33 AM:

Glad something worked for you, abi.

#279 ::: Lance Weber ::: (view all by) ::: August 09, 2008, 06:37 PM:

My first time at an SF con lesson: Heinlein panels are the ML equivalent of an unmoderated thread on "The impact of politics and religion on knitting, cooking and dinosaur sodomy."

#280 ::: Tania ::: (view all by) ::: August 10, 2008, 12:04 AM:

Which is why Lance and I are going to the Women Who Read Heinlein panel in the morning. hee!

#281 ::: Lance Weber ::: (view all by) ::: August 10, 2008, 12:42 PM:

*sigh*

I'm going to be a no-show for the last day of my first Worldcon. A fan stepped on (and crushed) my big toe while I was sitting at a panel yesterday. It's so swollen and bruised today that I can't even put my sneakers on.

Kind of an ignominious end to my first SF con... :(

#282 ::: kathryn in denver still ::: (view all by) ::: August 10, 2008, 05:54 PM:

Lance-
ouch. sorry to hear that. Perhaps a consolation that today has been quiet?

#283 ::: Tania ::: (view all by) ::: August 10, 2008, 06:21 PM:

Lance, I missed you. The Heinlein panel was actually ok, Jo Walton did a hell of a job moderating and keeping things moving. I still have your masquerade ribbon, if you send me your address I'll pop it in the post to you.

Sorry about the toe. You were a trooper as we walked around last night.

#284 ::: Carol Kimball ::: (view all by) ::: August 10, 2008, 08:26 PM:

Lance - sorry about your foot, and to have missed meeting you.

A few highlights, per request (and doubtless some head-desk omissions).

Gnash your teeth if you missed Xopher's chocolates, as they were
1) superb
2) various
3) plentiful

They were so fabulous that (almost) everyone was keeping an eagle eye on the folks who'd been to the trays right before them so they could dash back over as soon as those people had re-helped themselves.

Towards the end of the evening, I noticed someone had upended a little cream container over a fluted paper cup. I gently went to pick it up and found it was a white chocolate confection. Using having touched it as the excuse, I crammed it in my mouth. By this point my fingers were coated, so I headed to the sink in the food prep area, where Tim Walters had been dispensing Vintage Martinis and other wonderful drinks, and occasionally harmonizing with Xopher, whose arm I had to duck under.

Xopher then carried both sides of the conversation:
"If you'd asked, I'd have moved for you."
"Oh, you couldn't ask."
"You've got your mouth full of one of my ganaches."

No, I didn't show him.

Teresa brought her cure and vanquished scurvy.

Kathryn deserves an Internet for making this happen.


#285 ::: Mary Aileen ::: (view all by) ::: August 11, 2008, 06:56 PM:

I didn't stay at the party long, because it was so crowded it threatened to bring on an anxiety attack, but I was there long enough to have several of Xopher's chocolates, so I am content.

And I had a good conversation with Madeline F and howdied several other people. Good party.

#286 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: August 11, 2008, 07:00 PM:

Lance @ 281... Let's toest to your prompt recovery.

#287 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: August 11, 2008, 07:03 PM:

Abi... It was neat seeing you again. When I got your email on my cell phone, we were waiting to see if we'd have to go back on stage to get an award. Which we did. I contacted Kathryn asap then I eventually figured out how to send you an email back - not an easy task as my cell phone is rather, ah, primitive.

#288 ::: Lee ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2008, 01:08 AM:

Xopher, #207: The chocolates were FABULOUS! Especially the ginger ones, of which I was greedy and took two.

Dave, #264: I'm working on my Worldcon report, which will be up on my LJ (userid starcat_jewel) in a day or two. Unfortunately, since I'm stuck in the dealer room all day, most of the event coverage will be of the parties!

abi, #274: Nice "meeting" you at last!

Lance, #281: Ouch! That sucks. (Quoth she who got kicked in the shin at a contradance once, hard enough to put an end to any thought of dancing for the rest of the night.) But it was nice meeting you, too.

Kathryn, you deserve a Hugo yourself for making this party happen! It was fabulous, and I really enjoyed getting to meet so many new people. (Being the button distributor also helped a lot during the incredibly slow opening days of the con; it meant that people kept coming by my table and talking to me, which in turn kept me from either falling asleep or running barking mad from boredom.) But if we do it again, please let's try to get a bigger room!


#289 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2008, 01:48 AM:

Whoops, I missed these updates until now. I was offline for the whole convention, and I guess they were scrolled off until Lee's post.

Lance, sorry about your toe. I hope it's gotten better now.

Carol, thank you! It's one of those cases where I see horrendous flaws in the work, and everyone else is going Nom Nom Nom. Next time they will be tasty AND PRETTY. Which only the ginger ones really managed this time.

Was that the piña colada ganache that you had in your mouth right then? The miniature pint glass shape in pale yellow?

...I wonder if I could make a ganache with Teresa's scurvy cure as the flavoring. Have to get some and experiment. If it's too acid the ganache won't set. But I think it's worth a try.

And hear, hear about Kathryn. *bows to Kathryn*

Mary Aileen: delightful to have met you, and thank you for saying nice things about my chocolates!

Lee, thank you! Yeah, I think the ginger ones are pretty much my best work. That's one recipe I worked out myself; for some others I got instructions from the annoying chocolate book, but that one really is my own invention. Next time I'll make more of those. Would have this time, but I ran out of fondant.

#290 ::: David Goldfarb ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2008, 04:55 AM:

Xopher@289: What do you mean not pretty? The white chocolate raspberry ones were particularly nice looking, and so were the gold-dusted ginger, but they were all well up to professional standards.

(Have you considered going into business as a chocolatier?)

#291 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2008, 12:38 PM:

David, thanks, but you should have seen them before they got bashed and battered in shipping. They were glossy and reflective. That's a shipping issue which I think I know how to resolve.

As for becoming a professional...there are some things you do for love (of the doing and of the people you do them for) that money wouldn't be enough to pay for if you did them for a living. While I might do some for a charity fundraiser or something, I think I'll generally keep out of the money economy with these; that way, among other things, I can take a break for a while when the very sight of chocolate starts making me sick!

Also, I would truly, madly, deeply SUCK as a small-business owner!

#292 ::: Randolph ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2008, 01:40 PM:

BTW, great to meet some of you-folks, & see others again.

#293 ::: Carol Kimball ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2008, 02:57 PM:

Xopher: re which ganache?

Yes, I think it was piña colada. It was big enough that I really should have taken two bites. As a lot of the evening was spent helping out in the food/drink prep area, and that was where Tim was mixing his killer drinks, and as he frequently said, "here, take a sip - is this better than the last one?" and I had begun tasting Teresa's Scurvy Cure, things were happily fuzzy by then.

#294 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2008, 03:09 PM:

Carol Kimball @ 293... things were happily fuzzy by then

There I was, thinking you were glad to finally meet me.
Sniff...

#295 ::: Ursula L ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2008, 05:03 PM:

On behalf of everyone who was not able to attend Worldcon or the ML party, I request recipes of all the wonderful eatable and drinkable items being mentioned in the party reports!

#296 ::: Madeline F ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2008, 05:33 PM:

I'm all recovered now from the con. Thank you so much, Kathryn, for all the thought and time that went into that party! The rubber-ducky sheet covering the TV was a nice touch, I thought. The paper dinosaurs made aesthetically pleasing fans. And the party itself was a great deal of fun! And the grapes were tasty and a good way to not end up terribly hungover.

Tim Walters! Your mixology was superb, as was your company. I'm really glad I finally got to try a martini with sweet vermouth and a Gibson. (For those following along at home, good gin, I can see how people could like it, although I still don't.)

Xopher! The chocolates were tasty as heck and the speakers for abi were a brilliant thing! I liked the ones with dark chocolate filling best. I hope someday we will meet again and I can try the ones with cherry insides.

abi! Thanks for hanging in there and joining us at some crazy early hour!

Lurkers from Seattle! Thanks for confirming that Patrick does in fact have looks reminiscent of Robert Downey Jr.

Mary Aileen, yes, it was fun to talk to you, and then accidentally end up hovering next to you the next day at the Bujold Miles reading. :)

Also thrilled to have gotten to chat with Serge and cynthia1960 and various others whose handles are on the tip of my mind but not quite shaking free (person with cat-related name who was trapped against wall, etc).

#297 ::: Carol Kimball ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2008, 06:07 PM:

#294 ::: Serge
Carol Kimball @ 293... things were happily fuzzy by then...There I was, thinking you were glad to finally meet me.
Sniff...

The fuzzy was the booze (and theobromine!), the happy was the people.

Want to do it all again next week?

#298 ::: ethan ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2008, 06:28 PM:

Am I to understand that Tim Walters was in control of the music at the party? Well, I am sorry I missed it.

#299 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2008, 06:36 PM:

Carol Kimball @ 297... It's true that Denver is within driving distance of Albuquerque - or is it the other way around? Either way, one's definition of 'driving distance' must include 7-hour trips. Still, who knows?

#300 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2008, 06:38 PM:

Madeline F @ 296... Hopefully we'll be able to meet next time I show up in the Bay Area.

#301 ::: Mary Aileen ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2008, 07:00 PM:

ethan (298): Not the music, the alcoholic beverages.

#302 ::: ethan ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2008, 07:04 PM:

Oh, that kind of mixology.

#303 ::: Carol Kimball ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2008, 07:49 PM:

Tim Walters WAS singing as well as mixing drinks, though more of the latter than the former. If the former didn't interfere with the latter, perhaps more equal proportions next time?

#304 ::: TomB ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2008, 07:50 PM:

Actually, I had a nifty discussion with Tim about the music he is into, so he probably could do both kinds of mixology, maybe not at the same time.

#305 ::: Carol Kimball ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2008, 07:58 PM:

304 Tom B.

Oh, yes he could/can/did.

#306 ::: Joyce Reynolds-Ward ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2008, 08:20 PM:

Xopher! Thank you so much for the nomnomnom chocolates. I second and third the accolades that they were of marvelous, professional quality.

Everyone else--glad to see you, had a great time, the picture of the Hamster Powered Disemvoweler came out reasonably well and I'll post it soon (like maybe tomorrow).

I was also a happy fancier of the various single malts. Yum. Happy glow.

#307 ::: TomB ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2008, 09:08 PM:

The only professionally made chocolates I've had that were as good as Xopher's were from the long gone and much missed Cocolat. I've had a lot of chocolates since then, but they've either been too cheap on the ingredients, or too fancy, or too big. Xopher's were just right. I'd worry that if he went pro, he might have to change his formula to compete; make the chocolates bigger, or edgier or something. They would still be very good, I'm sure, but I wouldn't be defenseless against them. As it is, it's probably a good thing for my health that Xopher makes them only when he wants to and that most of the time he is safely 3,000 miles away.

#308 ::: Tim Walters ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2008, 09:10 PM:

I greatly enjoyed meeting and hanging with all y'all, at the party, in Susan's masquerade gang, and at various meals and other times. Special thanks to Carol for taking me on a liquor run with bonus Japanese food!

+1 on the chocolates, especially the ginger variety.

I appreciate the bartending compliments, but must point out that the most popular drink by far was Kathryn and Carol's superb homemade lemonade.

Warning: if you let me control the alcohol and the music, I'll end up blasting 20-minute avant-prog epics...

Ursula @ 295: I request recipes of all the wonderful eatable and drinkable items being mentioned in the party reports!

Vintage Martini, or Tim's Loose Interpretation Thereof:

4 parts gin
1 part bianco vermouth
1 dash orange bitters

Shake with ice until well chilled. Garnish with lemon twist.

At the party I used Junipero gin (the San Francisco treat) and Martini & Rossi bianco vermouth. Bianco is sweeter than the "extra dry" vermouth used in modern martinis, but still straw-colored, and not quite as sweet as rosso. Three-to-one is also a good (and probably more historically accurate) ratio if you don't mind your martini being noticeably sweet.

#309 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2008, 09:23 PM:

Thanks some more, everyone!

Looks like the ginger ones were a universal favorite.

#310 ::: Carol Kimball ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2008, 10:39 PM:

The lemonade was popular because it and canned pop were what were available before Tim started building martinis!

Kathryn suggested we have it, and she and Lance provided the recipes. We kept the ginger separate and optional, though ginger/lemon syrup could be used directly in the lemonade. I used a pressure cooker for the essence syrup for energy efficiency, and because it's August.

Making Light Party Lemonade

Lemonade: fresh-squeezed juice, good water, lemon syrup.

Wash the lemons and remove the zest with a microplane grater. Squeeze the juice and tuck it somewhere cold.

Put the zest and enough water (measure) to float the stuff easily in the cooker and bring to pressure for five minutes. Turn off heat. When the pressure has dropped*, open and add twice the volume of sugar. Stir to dissolve (this also cools the mixture). Strain, cool, chill.

* Move the pot to the sink without breaking the pressure seal and run cold water over it, if you're in a hurry.

For your first batch, measure and record your proportions. This compensates for how sweet or strong your lemons are.

Kathryn uses 1 gallon clear square bottles of Crystal Geyser. Have all components chilled. Pour about a third the water into another container. Add 2 1/2 cups juice to the main bottle. Add 2 cups syrup. Taste. Adjust. Fiddle with water/juice/syrup until the container is happy.

Do it again until you run out.

Ginger-Lemon Syrup

1 part packed lemon zest, microplaned
4 parts finely chopped fresh ginger root
6 parts water
6 parts sugar

Prep the lemons as for lemonade. As the ginger gets strained out, I only sliced it in 3/8 - 1/2" rounds and chopped it fairly fine in a food processor. Put the ginger and zest in the pressure cooker and proceed as for the lemon syrup. After it has cooled, add the lemon juice (unless it went into the lemonade).

Put a dollop or so of the ginger/lemon syrup in your glass and fill with lemonade.

#311 ::: TomB ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2008, 10:56 PM:

Ginger lemonade with extra gin was good too.

#312 ::: Carol Kimball ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2008, 11:59 PM:

Duh?!

Garden-variety, though - no point in burying exquisite fine stuff in it.

(Sipping some of same, right now).

My, that's nice.

#313 ::: abi ::: (view all by) ::: August 14, 2008, 03:20 AM:

Madeline F @296:

It was a pleasure to chat with you. I do expect to hear a report of Steampunk Amber gaming one of these days...

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