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         <title>am-phi-brach (n) + am-phi-brach (n) + i-amb (n) -- comment #1 from Josh Millard</title>
         <description>comment from Josh Millard on 29.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>A limerick seems a good size fer<br />
Citations to make a man wiser;<br />
The sonnet's a bother,<br />
And makes of the author<br />
A lexicographical miser.</p>
	 <p>Posted July 29, 2008 12:09 PM by Josh Millard</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>am-phi-brach (n) + am-phi-brach (n) + i-amb (n) -- comment #2 from Fragano Ledgister</title>
         <description>comment from Fragano Ledgister on 29.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p><i>It's quite a magnificent sight<br />
and surely took long to indite,<br />
but seems somehow wrong<br />
to use such a strong<br />
form of verse without preventive rite.</i></p>
	 <p>Posted July 29, 2008 12:21 PM by Fragano Ledgister</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>am-phi-brach (n) + am-phi-brach (n) + i-amb (n) -- comment #3 from abi</title>
         <description>comment from abi on 29.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p><strong>Josh @1:</strong></p>

<p>A sonnet may be useful to define<br />
More complex terms, when subtle, nuanced use<br />
Makes limerick-based treatment far too loose:<br />
The meaning can be shaded, line on line,<br />
For fourteen measured phrases, stressed like speech.<br />
(Do not discount the ease its meter gives!<br />
It's by its rhythm that a sonnet lives<br />
And breathes, and can be made to teach.)<br />
Admittedly a simpler verse in form<br />
Presents a lower threshold to surmount.<br />
It is a large endeavor; numbers count!<br />
And when the rules are tough, too few conform.<br />
But I would still from sonnets, in their grace,<br />
Research my words, if there were such a place.</p>
	 <p>Posted July 29, 2008 12:51 PM by abi</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>am-phi-brach (n) + am-phi-brach (n) + i-amb (n) -- comment #4 from Terry Karney</title>
         <description>comment from Terry Karney on 29.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>A couplet for me is quite ample<br />
as the means to define a sample</p>
	 <p>Posted July 29, 2008  1:00 PM by Terry Karney</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>am-phi-brach (n) + am-phi-brach (n) + i-amb (n) -- comment #5 from Josh Millard</title>
         <description>comment from Josh Millard on 29.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>abi's point taken<br />
yet line eight an iamb short<br />
rebuttal haiku<br />
</p>
	 <p>Posted July 29, 2008  1:10 PM by Josh Millard</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>am-phi-brach (n) + am-phi-brach (n) + i-amb (n) -- comment #6 from Terry Karney</title>
         <description>comment from Terry Karney on 29.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>That was clumsy:</p>

<p>A couplet for me is quite ample<br />
as the means for defining a sample<br />
</p>
	 <p>Posted July 29, 2008  1:18 PM by Terry Karney</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>am-phi-brach (n) + am-phi-brach (n) + i-amb (n) -- comment #7 from abi</title>
         <description>comment from abi on 29.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>This is just to say</p>

<p>I have omitted<br />
the word<br />
that came fourth in<br />
my eighth line</p>

<p>and which<br />
you were probably<br />
missing<br />
when you read it</p>

<p>Forgive me<br />
it was "even":<br />
a trochee<br />
not an iamb.<br />
</p>
	 <p>Posted July 29, 2008  1:22 PM by abi</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>am-phi-brach (n) + am-phi-brach (n) + i-amb (n) -- comment #8 from elise</title>
         <description>comment from elise on 29.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>To poets of the first water<br />
they come like iambs to the slaughter.</p>
	 <p>Posted July 29, 2008  1:24 PM by elise</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>am-phi-brach (n) + am-phi-brach (n) + i-amb (n) -- comment #9 from Marc Moskowitz</title>
         <description>comment from Marc Moskowitz on 29.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Terry @6:<br />
Pangere de verbo sat certe distichon unum<br />
Tangere rem si vis calliditatis acu.</p>
	 <p>Posted July 29, 2008  1:36 PM by Marc Moskowitz</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>am-phi-brach (n) + am-phi-brach (n) + i-amb (n) -- comment #10 from John Mark Ockerbloom</title>
         <description>comment from John Mark Ockerbloom on 29.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Higgledy piggledy<br />
Our Fluorospherians<br />
illustrate word meanings<br />
forsaking prose</p>

<p>What lexicographical<br />
versificational<br />
redefinitional<br />
lines they compose!</p>
	 <p>Posted July 29, 2008  1:45 PM by John Mark Ockerbloom</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>am-phi-brach (n) + am-phi-brach (n) + i-amb (n) -- comment #11 from B. Durbin</title>
         <description>comment from B. Durbin on 29.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>If at times I seem outclassed<br />
by poets writing finer verse<br />
I come up with some rhyming fast<br />
and turn it into lyrics, first.</p>

<p>It may not be melodic, true,<br />
But at least I find a rhyme;<br />
It is the least that I can do—<br />
<i>excuse me, diaper-changing time.</i></p>
	 <p>Posted July 29, 2008  2:01 PM by B. Durbin</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>am-phi-brach (n) + am-phi-brach (n) + i-amb (n) -- comment #12 from Josh Millard</title>
         <description>comment from Josh Millard on 29.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>I have no need of trochee;<br />
Hairs are split in twain.<br />
The metrical distinction I disdain.</p>

<p>Iamb a rock.<br />
Iamb an island.</p>
	 <p>Posted July 29, 2008  2:04 PM by Josh Millard</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>am-phi-brach (n) + am-phi-brach (n) + i-amb (n) -- comment #13 from Tania</title>
         <description>comment from Tania on 29.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>I think I will be in hell<br />
ere I finish my first villanelle<br />
recyclable lines<br />
don't come to my mind<br />
and my command of meter isn't swell</p>
	 <p>Posted July 29, 2008  2:12 PM by Tania</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>am-phi-brach (n) + am-phi-brach (n) + i-amb (n) -- comment #14 from abi</title>
         <description>comment from abi on 29.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Now Tania, please let us leaven<br />
You disparagement set at eleven.<br />
With practice it's faster.<br />
And in case of disaster<br />
Remember you might go to heaven.</p>
	 <p>Posted July 29, 2008  2:16 PM by abi</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>am-phi-brach (n) + am-phi-brach (n) + i-amb (n) -- comment #15 from Ginger</title>
         <description>comment from Ginger on 29.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Making Light's moderator, Abi<br />
Wrote a sonnet with missing syllabi. <br />
Iamb totally amazed to see<br />
That she claimed an errant trochee. </p>
	 <p>Posted July 29, 2008  2:18 PM by Ginger</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>am-phi-brach (n) + am-phi-brach (n) + i-amb (n) -- comment #16 from Debra Doyle</title>
         <description>comment from Debra Doyle on 29.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Wise is the Light-Crafter who, watching the wordplay,<br />
The careful twisting and turning of terms<br />
Into finely-wrought riddles and rhymes of distinction,<br />
Forbears to put forth his (or her) own footling phrases . . . <br />
But wisdom, alas!, for me is oft wanting.</p>
	 <p>Posted July 29, 2008  3:01 PM by Debra Doyle</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>am-phi-brach (n) + am-phi-brach (n) + i-amb (n) -- comment #17 from albatross</title>
         <description>comment from albatross on 29.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p><em><br />
Blood pressures were rising, and moderates fled<br />
discussions retired, while others grew hot<br />
some vowels went missing in one parting shot<br />
So abi created a poetry thread! <br />
</em></p>

<p><em><br />
Some threads are for chatting, and some for a fight<br />
some posts are for boasting of trolls that you beat<br />
today we could do with a bit less of heat<br />
So how 'bout we go back to making some light?<br />
</em></p>
	 <p>Posted July 29, 2008  3:57 PM by albatross</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>am-phi-brach (n) + am-phi-brach (n) + i-amb (n) -- comment #18 from abi</title>
         <description>comment from abi on 29.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p><strong>albatross @17:</strong><br />
That didn't go where, from the first line, I thought it was going to.  I was expecting something more like:</p>

<p>Blood pressures are rising - the mood is getting low<br />
Fluorosphere tells us, this thread's the place to go<br />
And reminds us again here:<br />
Tell it all over the site<br />
Enough of the heat, now<br />
It's time to start making light!</p>

<p>Let's make some light, hallelujah!<br />
Let's make some light, amen!<br />
We've gotta frolic until we start<br />
Laughing fit to fall apart!<br />
Let's make some light, hallelujah!<br />
Let's make some light! Every thread onsite!<br />
Truth, mercy, quips and verse,<br />
Language, cooking, puns and worse!</p>
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         <title>am-phi-brach (n) + am-phi-brach (n) + i-amb (n) -- comment #19 from Tlönista</title>
         <description>comment from Tlönista on 29.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>The sonnet-scop Sutherland, sweet-spoken word-smith<br />
who guards the grey halls where oft the fen gather<br />
called then a contest, as was commonly done there,<br />
for vying in verse - and to the victor, long glory,<br />
their poetry preserved by the power of “View all by”.</p>

<p>Now rose the noob, knees knocking together,<br />
pronouncing what, truly, was her first proper prosody...<br />
be gentle, it's my first time.</p>
	 <p>Posted July 29, 2008  4:56 PM by Tlönista</p></content:encoded>
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         <description>comment from Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers) on 29.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Sun's light replaces darkness at the dawn,<br />
relinquishes its place again at dusk.<br />
The stars send down reminder, but a husk<br />
of brilliance cross the light-years drawn.<br />
The field equations show that light rides space,<br />
its forces constantly reversing roles,<br />
but, just as true, a flood of photons rolls,<br />
carrying insight at the fastest pace.<br />
Illumining our minds is what we say<br />
about our apprehensions of the world.<br />
The grasp we take on life as we are hurled <br />
through sights we'd savor, and yet cannot stay.<br />
More meanings light may have for us to take;<br />
We'll find them at the place where light we make.</p>

<p><br />
</p>
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         <title>am-phi-brach (n) + am-phi-brach (n) + i-amb (n) -- comment #21 from elise</title>
         <description>comment from elise on 29.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Old verse-forms<br />
A Doyle jumps in<br />
The sound of a delighted Lioness</p>
	 <p>Posted July 29, 2008  5:54 PM by elise</p></content:encoded>
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         <description>comment from Fragano Ledgister on 29.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p><i>The task, we find, is never to set straight<br />
those who come limping to the summer feast<br />
in search of all the savours we released;</i></p>

<p><i>we do not snarl or tell them they are late,<br />
their style and manner we have not policed.<br />
The task we find is never to set straight.</i></p>

<p><i>Rather our duty's to keep wide the gate<br />
and grant full favour even to the least,<br />
admitting all until the night has ceased.<br />
The task we find is never to set straight.</i></p>
	 <p>Posted July 29, 2008  8:00 PM by Fragano Ledgister</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>am-phi-brach (n) + am-phi-brach (n) + i-amb (n) -- comment #23 from albatross</title>
         <description>comment from albatross on 29.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>abi #18:</p>

<p>Somehow, I keep trying to fit that TTTO the wrong song.</p>

<p>It's confounding;<br />
Patience fleeting;<br />
Flamage takes its toll.<br />
But read it closely...<br />
Till they spawn a new thread.<br />
I've got to keep control.</p>

<p><em><br />
I remember losing my vowels<br />
Flaming those posters when<br />
The trolls would hit me<br />
and the snark would be calling....<br />
</em></p>

<p><em><br />
Let's do the vowel-warp again!<br />
Let's do the vowel-warp again!<br />
</em><br />
</p>
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         <description>comment from Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers) on 29.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>"Beware the Weblog Mod, my Son, the flame delete, the troll-post catch,<br />
 beware the SysAdmin and shun, the frumrious Vowel Snatch."</p>
	 <p>Posted July 29, 2008  9:01 PM by Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers)</p></content:encoded>
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         <description>comment from TexAnne on 29.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>For the mod was a boojum, you see.</p>
	 <p>Posted July 29, 2008  9:43 PM by TexAnne</p></content:encoded>
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         <description>comment from Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers) on 29.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>/snark</p>
	 <p>Posted July 29, 2008 10:27 PM by Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers)</p></content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><p>Sing! O mod, the rage of OED<br />
Son of Murray, at vile<br />
Seizure of venerated role.<br />
Many lov'd words were sent<br />
Into the maw of low lyric,<br />
Their meaning prey to Evil<br />
Pun and base Rhyme.<br />
 <br />
</p>
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         <content:encoded><p>abi - though trochee,<br />
placed before "can," "even" makes<br />
line 8 all iamb</p>
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         <content:encoded><p>musclebound poet<br />
chews greens and defends his art<br />
"iamb what iamb"</p>
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         <title>am-phi-brach (n) + am-phi-brach (n) + i-amb (n) -- comment #30 from albatross</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>[The good parts of this were stolen from Kipling, but I supplied the bad parts myself.]</p>

<p><em><br />
When in the net's designs diverse,<br />
  Our endless chat began,<br />
The sharpest snark, the quickest curse,<br />
  Gave man control of man;<br />
</em><br />
<em><br />
'Till, tired of flames and argument,<br />
  And fearful of dog piles,<br />
Away were the offenders sent,<br />
  Into the deep kill-files.<br />
</em><br />
<em><br />
So snark and curse were dulled a bit<br />
  As ways your foe to slam<br />
'till some ingenious con man hit<br />
  upon the curse of spam.<br />
</em><br />
<em><br />
Then killfiles became useless rigs,<br />
  The spammers' spew flew loose,<br />
As emails hid in cluttered sigs,<br />
  And spam fought cancel-moose.<br />
</em><br />
<em><br />
In time the chatters moved around,<br />
  and usenet fell to trolls.<br />
Discussions in the comments found,<br />
  in bloggers' comment rolls.<br />
</em><br />
<em><br />
A thousand flowers tried to bloom,<br />
  and most were killed by spam,<br />
by trolls and griefers bringing doom,<br />
  and con men with a scam<br />
</em><br />
<em><br />
But the survivors' mods were fleet,<br />
  and threw not in their towels,<br />
and predators who came to eat, <br />
  departed missing vowels.<br />
</em></p>
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         <content:encoded><p>abi wondered: <i>is there<br />
A website out there<br />
Doing much of the same for the sonnet?</i></p>

<p>You'd think so, wouldn't you? But no. I've looked,<br />
But so far found no sites that fit the bill.<br />
The closest yet is not a site, but just<br />
A single sample on a single page:</p>

<p><br />
I once loved a lassie from Greenleigh<br />
Whose comportment was naught short of queenly.<br />
When she grows old and stout,<br />
Wracked with chilblains and gout,<br />
I'll embrace her no less, but more keenly.</p>

<p>(http://www.avantnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=254)</p>

<p><br />
(This isn't what you meant, but you'll concede<br />
A site of these would be good too. Agreed?)</p>
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         <title>am-phi-brach (n) + am-phi-brach (n) + i-amb (n) -- comment #32 from elise</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>When that I was and a little tiny n00b<br />
With an A, E, and I and an O<br />
My japing marked me but a boob<br />
And a U and even sometimes Y</p>

<p>But when I came to keep a blog<br />
With an A, E, and I and an O...</p>

<p>(help me out? Gotta fall over here, and brain's empty)</p>
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         <content:encoded><p>(continuing)</p>

<p>my brainy friends were all agog!<br />
And a U and even sometimes Y</p>

<p>So I linked my inks and tracked my backs<br />
With an A, E, and I and an O<br />
And loaded my site with the latest of hacks<br />
And a U and even sometimes Y</p>

<p>(next!)</p>
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         <content:encoded><p>All jokes aside, I would quite like to see<br />
A dictionary where the entries are<br />
Laid out in sonnet form from A to Zee.<br />
(Or 'Zed', of course, but then the rhyme would jar.)</p>

<p>Now I invite you, if you like, to guess:<br />
Which entry is the first to which I'd go?<br />
In fact, I'd find an entry under 'S'<br />
That would perhaps begin a bit like so:</p>

<p><i>The <b>sonnet</b> is an old poetic form;</i><br />
<i>Its fourteen lines walk on iambic feet.</i><br />
<i>Though optional, pentameter's the norm.</i><br />
<i>(The iambs are essential: please don't cheat.)</i></p>

<p>And after that, to see a clever trick,<br />
The sonnet that explains the limerick.</p>
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         <content:encoded><p>Arriving here from <a href="http://www.oedilf.com/db/Lim.php" rel="nofollow">Limerick's distant shore</a><br />
(Where lexicographers announce demand),<br />
I find a gauntlet thrown by lyric hand<br />
And undertake to lift it from the floor.</p>

<p>The <strong>limerick</strong>'s terse: not six lines, neither four,<br />
By anapest (perhaps one iamb) spanned.<br />
One, two and five, constrained by rhyme's command,<br />
Compel the -- <br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I can't do this anymore!</p>

<p>It's a feasible feat at first glance,<br />
But I haven't got much of a chance.<br />
Though I try not to cheat<br />
And to follow the beat,<br />
Still I've thirteen left feet in this dance.</p>
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         <content:encoded><p>You are Leet, Father William</p>

<p>“In my youth,” said the troll, “I took to the net,<br />
to find out where someone was wrong.<br />
And the consequent flamage made everyone sweat;<br />
drove away those who didn't belong."<br />
</p>
	 <p>Posted July 30, 2008  5:25 AM by Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers)</p></content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><p>Yet I fear very few would give the time,<br />
To a lexicon constructed in the manner of the famous McGonnagall's scheme of rhyme,<br />
Despite it's being in preparation for a considerable time.</p>

<p>Indeed, I'd rather spend my cash<br />
And indeed give some deference<br />
If there was a reference<br />
in the style of Ogden Nash</p>
	 <p>Posted July 30, 2008  5:44 AM by Pete Darby</p></content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><p>Poetry And You: Blunt Trochee Injury</p>

<p>Novices to writing poems<br />
Choose the easy fallback option<br />
Crafting verse octosyllabic<br />
(Bang crash bang crash bang crash bang crash)<br />
Rhymes superfluous (like talent)<br />
On and on and never stopping<br />
Like the mighty Gitchee Gummee<br />
Like the shining Big Sea Water<br />
(Now eutrophicated greenly<br />
Due to excess nitrate runoff - <br />
Gracias, Archer Daniels Midland!)</p>
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         <content:encoded><p>Alas! My tired brain cannot complete<br />
a sonnet with its lines of walking feet<br />
and so, although I long to join the game,<br />
I gaze upon my offering with shame:</p>

<p>Sleepy baby, go to sleep.<br />
Sleepy baby, soft and deep.<br />
Sleepy baby, do not weep.<br />
Sleepy baby, go to sleep.</p>

<p>Sleepy baby, go to bed.<br />
Sleepy baby, rest your head.<br />
Screaming baby, face all red...<br />
sleepy baby, go to bed.</p>

<p>Unfortunate, my lines when put to song,<br />
(although I feel I sang them all night long)<br />
despite my charming tune and calming touch<br />
the babe seems not to like them very much.</p>
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         <content:encoded><p>I do not poet. But I verb in prose.</p>
	 <p>Posted July 30, 2008  9:26 AM by Johan Larson</p></content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><p>Pete Darby at thirty-seven fears that very few would give the time,<br />
To a lexicon constructed in the manner of the famous McGonnagall's scheme of rhyme,<br />
Despite it's being in preparation for a considerable time.<br />
But he fails to take into consideration the possibilities of expansion<br />
Allowed for by that estimable Scottish poet’s execrable and most appalling scansion.<br />
</p>
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         <content:encoded><p>Recycled from elsewhere in February, but so long as we're mixing constraints:</p>

<p><i>Lim'rick very brief;<br />
Haiku lurks beneath.<br />
"Bog,<br />
Frog."<br />
Basho begs relief.</i></p>
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         <content:encoded><p><strong>Abiwulf</strong></p>

<p>Lo, praise of the prowess of poet-kings,<br />
of the word-armed Dutch, in posts fast sped,<br />
we have heard, and what honor the netlings won!</p>

<p>...</p>

<p>Famed was this Abiwulf: Far flew the boast of her,<br />
one of the skalds, in the Scandian lands. <br />
So becomes it a mod to meter well,<br />
with her hosts' guests, by trochee and dactyl,<br />
that to aid her, beset in other threads,<br />
come warriors willing, should troll-war draw nigh,<br />
lay-men loyal: by lauded words<br />
shall a bard have honor in every land.</p>
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         <content:encoded><p>Such talent, such fun -- this thread is great! Since I'm fighting the summer sinus headache today, I'll just offer an oldie I adapted for my cat when he weighed a few pounds less. My printout includes a sketch of a large black and white cat (paw over eyes, back feet up), with the last word in line two done in a suitably fuzzy font.</p>

<p>HORTON'S SONG</p>

<p>I weigh sixteen pounds -- ain't it enough?<br />
Another day older and deeper in fluff.<br />
Saint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go --<br />
I owe my soul to my favorite bowl.</p>
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         <description>comment from Fragano Ledgister on 30.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p><i>At end of journey no place left to flee<br />
but still we crave what lies beyond the reef<br />
not knowing yet all of the modes of grief<br />
each tacks their name upon the waiting tree.<br />
You tell us simply wait and let time be,<br />
leave urgency and haste to the old thief:<br />
too soon we'll mourn each swiftly falling leaf,<br />
and far too soon will curse the hateful sea.<br />
Right now the sun fills the whole world with gold,<br />
there seems no barrier to clearest truth<br />
all of our senses proclaim highest noon;<br />
no one will speak of days both dark and cold,<br />
or tell us all the sournesses of ruth;<br />
but now we want to hide in a cocoon.</i><br />
</p>
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         <description>comment from Rainflame on 30.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>A poetry thread's a delight<br />
Witty verse bursting forth left and right<br />
So I watch with a grin<br />
Let the fireworks begin!<br />
Making rhyme, making fun, Making Light</p>
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         <content:encoded><p>Sometimes long-lurking lurkers delurk/<br />
Spurred by non-lurkers and boring work<br />
Poetry threads are fun<br />
Even for poem-foo = none<br />
They might stay; usually: /relurk<br />
</p>
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         <content:encoded><p>There has got to be a pun somewhere out there with non-lurker/on-looker but I tried to find it for an hour before I wrote the previous.  :)</p>
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         <content:encoded><p>PPaul A. @ 34:</p>

<p>The limerick's a jolly form of verse<br />
Whose rhyming runs AA, BB, then A.<br />
An ancient form -- <a href="http://www.limericks.org/pentatette/myths.htm" rel="nofollow">Aquinas wrote the first</a> --<br />
It's now employed most usually at play.<br />
Its meter: <a href="http://www.speedysnail.com/limericks/metre.html" rel="nofollow">anapests (or amphibrachs),</a><br />
The A's with three feet, and the B's with two.<br />
(These groupings are the basic building blocks.<br />
The rhythmic details can depend on you.)<br />
And as for subject:  Often it's obscene,<br />
Involving fair Nantucket and her folk.<br />
Still, many do prefer to keep it clean.<br />
The only real requirement is a joke.</p>

<p><a href="http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/010450.html#284618" rel="nofollow">I see the forms of verse begin to mix</a> --<br />
So here!  A sonnet on the limerick!<br />
</p>
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         <content:encoded><p>Far-flung the fame of fleeting verse<br />
Praised by poets, penurious of purse;<br />
Clever writers, cudgeling for a curse<br />
Found no family fortune in free verse<br />
And wanting words of structure, write -- worse.</p>
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         <content:encoded><p>The Rattlin' Verse</p>

<p>Chorus: </p>

<p>I O the poet's verse, the verse down in the literary thread<br />
I O the poet's verse, the verse down in the literary thread</p>

<p>Now in that verse there were quatrains, fine quatrains, literary quatrains.  Fine quatrains, down in the verse, and the verse down in the thread-oh.</p>

<p>Cho.</p>

<p>Now in quatrains there are couplets, fine couplets, literary couplets.  Fine couplets, in the quatrains, quatrains in the verse, and the verse down in the thread-oh.</p>

<p>Cho.</p>

<p>Now in couplets there are two lines, fine lines, literary lines.  Fine lines, two per couplet, two per quatrain, quatrains in the verse, and the verse down in the thread-oh.</p>

<p>Cho.</p>

<p>Now in the lines are several feet, fine feet, literary feet.  Fine feet in the line, lines in the couplet, two per quatrain, quatrains in the verse, and the verse down in the thread-oh.</p>

<p>Cho.</p>

<p>Now in the feet there are some words, fine words, literary words.  Fine words in the foot, feet in the line, two lines per couplet, two per quatrain, quatrains in the verse, and the verse down in the thread-oh.</p>

<p>Cho.</p>

<p>Now at OEDLIF... <br />
They define those words...<br />
with fine verse<br />
literary verse...</p>

<p>Verse in the words, words in the feet, feet in the line, lines in the couplet, two per quatrain, quatrains in the verse, and the verse down in the thread-oh.</p>

<p>Final Cho.<br />
</p>
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         <content:encoded><p>In response to Fishwood Loach (but sorry, no pun)</p>

<p>The lurking onlooker delurks<br />
Jumps in with his non-lurking works<br />
An onlooker no longer<br />
With confidence stronger<br />
Wants non-lurking onlooker perks</p>
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         <content:encoded><p>Lurker lurks not for lack of confidence,<br />
Lurker lurks for lack of sentiments<br />
Antinspirational-<br />
-Underemployment will<br />
Stop any creativ– wait, there are perks?<br />
</p>
	 <p>Posted July 30, 2008  2:22 PM by Fishwood Loach</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>am-phi-brach (n) + am-phi-brach (n) + i-amb (n) -- comment #54 from Mary Aileen</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>I read title as 'amphibians'.<br />
Frogs, toads, and salamanders<br />
Don't make good haiku.</p>

<p>(Yes, I know it has way too many syllables in the first line.)</p>
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         <title>am-phi-brach (n) + am-phi-brach (n) + i-amb (n) -- comment #55 from Avedaggio</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>I de-lurked to add to the fun, but was<br />
Taken aback, seeing it'd already been done!<br />
By someone quite articulate,<br />
With rhyming immaculate....<br />
Eala!  Ic wille þin swetmetas bitan.*</p>

<p></p>

<p>*because when all else fails, Anglo-Saxon wins.</p>
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         <content:encoded><p>Fixed version:</p>

<p>"Amphibians"</p>

<p>I read title wrong.<br />
Frogs, toads, and salamanders<br />
Don't make good haiku.</p>
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         <title>am-phi-brach (n) + am-phi-brach (n) + i-amb (n) -- comment #57 from Terry Karney</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>I can haz coffee<br />
I can haz pomes</p>

<p>I only eat toffee<br />
When I iz at homes</p>

<p>I can be silly<br />
I can be deep</p>

<p>And both willy-nilly<br />
when I am asleep</p>
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         <content:encoded><p>Frogs, toads, salamanders<br />
make fine haiku</p>

<p>I don't speak amphibian</p>
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         <title>am-phi-brach (n) + am-phi-brach (n) + i-amb (n) -- comment #59 from Dan Layman-Kennedy</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>It's been months since my wit was last working<br />
To participate here (it's been irking).<br />
But a poetry thread's<br />
Like a boot to the head<br />
So for that, what the hell - I'm de-lurking.</p>
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         <content:encoded><p>Looking back over this thread I see my last couple of poems were rather off-topic; here's a do-over.</p>

<p>Words crave meaning just as speakers crave the air.<br />
Eloquence without it won't impress.<br />
But finding meaning's hard, we oft despair.</p>

<p>When writing often I will sit and stare, <br />
I want more meanings than my words possess.<br />
Words crave meaning just as speakers crave the air.</p>

<p>I need some help so I'll not tear my hair;<br />
some expert's words to take and then profess.<br />
But finding meaning's hard, we oft despair.</p>

<p>There are net references I have found out there,<br />
they help me find the words; alleviate distress.<br />
Words crave meaning just as speakers crave the air.</p>

<p>Still, there's a better way, prose can't compare<br />
to poesy wielded with finesse.<br />
But finding meaning's hard, we oft despair.</p>

<p>Defining words with verse, you are aware,<br />
makes meanings all the better to express.<br />
Words crave meaning just as speakers crave the air.<br />
But finding meaning's hard, we oft despair.</p>
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         <description>comment from doggerelist on 30.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>There’s an online union called the Lurkers’ Guild<br />
Or Bloggers’ Dandruff, Floating Forum Spam.<br />
Their aim: to leave each comment box unfilled,<br />
Their motto: everywhere I lurk, therefore I am.</p>

<p>Harmlessly haunting our stately blogs, mute<br />
Other-dimensional beings in the virtual home.<br />
(Whilst midnight surfing, ever had the acute<br />
Feeling you’re being watched by lurkers as they roam?)</p>

<p>High they hover, seeking tit-bits<br />
Cast off from the latest post.<br />
Shame they don’t descend a bit, it’s<br />
Rather rude to diss one’s host….</p>

<p>(From the above website, April 9 2008)</p>
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         <content:encoded><p>Delurking lurker having writ, relurks.</p>
	 <p>Posted July 30, 2008  5:31 PM by Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers)</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>am-phi-brach (n) + am-phi-brach (n) + i-amb (n) -- comment #63 from elise</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>Bruce, your #60 calls forth this, if our gentle hosts will permit me to repost something from a while back:</p>

<p>A poet with paper and pen is in business.<br />
Don't let them know what you're doing.<br />
Remember to keep your tools sharp.<br />
Brush up on your covert ops skills.</p>

<p>Don't let them know what you're doing.<br />
Poets know how to get past the borders.<br />
Brush up on your covert ops skills --<br />
It helps to look abstract, or pretty, or simple.</p>

<p>Poets know how to get past the borders;<br />
A poem can be a way of smuggling truth.<br />
It helps to look abstract, or pretty, or simple.<br />
Some poems are strong enough to bear that.</p>

<p>A poem can be a way of smuggling truth.<br />
Bones speak louder than official histories.<br />
Some poems are strong enough to bear that.<br />
A poet can owe a debt of story to a bone.</p>

<p>Bones speak louder than official histories.<br />
Some things demand that we tell how they happened.<br />
A poet can owe a debt of story to a bone<br />
Or a stick, a charred stub, white stones, blood.</p>

<p>Some things demand that we tell how they happened.<br />
A poet with paper and pen is in business,<br />
Or a stick, a charred stub, white stones, blood.<br />
Remember to keep your tools sharp.<br />
</p>
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         <content:encoded><p>elise:</p>

<p>Ninja poets write<br />
stories of bone, of deep time.<br />
Truth demands voice.</p>
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         <content:encoded><p>We lurkers don't get no respect<br />
But really, what can we expect?<br />
We're reclusive it's true<br />
And we're spying on you<br />
While we keep ourselves hard to detect</p>
	 <p>Posted July 30, 2008  7:18 PM by Rainflame</p></content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><p><i>So simple these words,<br />
so clear the modes of light;<br />
I wait for silence.</i></p>
	 <p>Posted July 30, 2008  8:06 PM by Fragano Ledgister</p></content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><p>The delurking lurker having writ,<br />
Left boring job one for number two;<br />
Interesting, but less money in it</p>
	 <p>Posted July 30, 2008  8:37 PM by Fishwood Loach</p></content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><p>My poetry is nothing like the sun<br />
You regulars read more than I have read<br />
If abi's be ten, why then my verse is one<br />
If words be fires, cool flames go from my head.<br />
I have seen genius, in rhyme and reason right;<br />
No such genius sees (s)he who here seeks.<br />
And in this thread so far is more delight<br />
Than in the awkward lines this "poet" speaks.<br />
I love to try to filk, yet well I know<br />
The source hath yet a far more pleasing sound;<br />
I grant I must at least be quite a show,<br />
My poems, when I share, aren't passed around.</p>

<p>And yet, for shame, I find I cannot care<br />
I do not write for praise or false compare.</p>
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         <description>comment from Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers) on 31.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Urk. "Truth demands <b><i>a</i></b> voice."  I swear I saw that 'a' there when I previewed the comment.  Well, time to increase the meds, and ask the voices pretty please to help me preview my comments.</p>
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         <description>comment from Virge on 31.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Some say the limerick's always rude;<br />
Some say it's trite.<br />
Defending verses that I've viewed<br />
I'd ask the critics to get screwed.<br />
We've wit and whimsy, bounce and bite.<br />
Though rarely rated as divine<br />
I'd say these rhythmic riffs we write<br />
Are always fine<br />
For Making Light.<br />
</p>
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         <content:encoded><p>There is no shame in raising a sweet word.<br />
Rhyme holds reason up to see the sun.<br />
Comparisons are odious when verse is done.<br />
I do not ask my sonnets be preferred.<br />
Instead I want all speakers voicing rhyme,<br />
and writing so their lines will often scan.<br />
The joy verse brings to others is my plan,<br />
and song that's raised to fill our space and time.<br />
Spirit's not a thing of gods and ghosts,<br />
it's how our minds relate to all around.<br />
Verse fills up that spirit, makes it abound<br />
with all the feelings that we value most.<br />
It's no surprise than that I do not care<br />
whose verse is better, as long as verse we share.</p>
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         <description>comment from elise on 31.Jul.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Gwen @ #68:</p>

<p>You love to try to filk? Ah! So do I!<br />
When one is of that ilk, one can't deny<br />
The lure of a container, ready-made.<br />
I won't be a complainer; why not trade<br />
A box of common song for something new?<br />
To filk stuff is not wrong; it's what we do.</p>

<p><br />
</p>
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         <title>am-phi-brach (n) + am-phi-brach (n) + i-amb (n) -- comment #73 from Kathryn from Sunnyvale</title>
         <description>comment from Kathryn from Sunnyvale on  1.Aug.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Tania, consider the terzanelle*,<br />
Which at first glance might look hard to tell<br />
from villanelle's strictures,<br />
but don't trust those pictures,<br />
you get many more rhymes that might jell.</p>

<p>------------<br />
* which, considering <a href="http://technology.newscientist.com/article/mg19926674.300-was-ancient-greek-computer-an-astronomical-tool.html?DCMP=ILC-hmts&nsref=tech2_head_Was%20ancient%20Greek%20'computer'%20an%20astronomical%20tool" rel="nofollow">yesterday's news</a> and the <a href="http://www.nasa.gov/topics/solarsystem/features/eclipse/index.html" rel="nofollow">events of right now</a>, makes me want to repost mine**.</p>

<p>**<br />
<i>For My Niece</i></p>

<p>Fire, song, food, gifts: we celebrate your years<br />
Now you are four, by an ancient measure<br />
You whisper wishes: the candle's smoke clears.</p>

<p>We are our years, and held by this tether<br />
One more gear of the antikythera<br />
Now you are four, by an ancient measure.</p>

<p>Our measures tie to Gaia and Terra<br />
I shall measure my life in eclipses<br />
One more gear of the antikythera.</p>

<p>I too am four, in octaeteridis<br />
Not yet one Halley, but two in Saros,<br />
I shall measure my life in eclipses</p>

<p>More than one light comes from nature's pharos<br />
Giving us a billionth anno mundi<br />
Not yet one Halley, but two in Saros.</p>

<p>You dance, the center of our orrery<br />
Fire, song, food, gifts: we celebrate your years<br />
Giving us a billionth anno mundi<br />
You whisper wishes: the candle's smoke clears.</p>
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         <content:encoded><p>62: <i>Delurking lurker having writ, relurks.</i></p>

<p>Delurking Lurker writes, and having writ,<br />
Relurks, but all that Jollity and Wit<br />
May hale him back to Write another Line<br />
And - who knows? - Hang Around and Chat a Bit.</p>
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         <content:encoded><p>The outlook wasn't brilliant for the Fluorosphere that night.<br />
The trolls had formed a phalanx, wearing robes of white.<br />
Jim was driving ambulance, and Patrick at a con;<br />
Ev'ry patron asked the question, "Where has Teresa gone?"</p>

<p>But abi brought the munchies, and jugs of lemonade,<br />
And a tigress with a Vickers was set up in enfilade.<br />
Star Fleet was armed and ready, fire button under thumb.<br />
The Fluorosphere was waiting, all the phasers set to "Pun!"</p>

<p>Then a cat ran out and savaged the left foot of a troll,<br />
And two kittens did the string-thing with a rather woolly roll.<br />
White-robed like a Klansman, the troll that ajay mocks,<br />
Is no more than a puppet, stuffed with mis-matched socks.</p>

<p><br />
</p>
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         <content:encoded><p>De lurking?<br />
The poesy thread is working.<br />
Here some who just read most times<br />
rhyme.</p>

<p>While threading<br />
the prose Fluorosphere's headings<br />
Oft what I'd say in a thread's<br />
said</p>

<p>By senders<br />
with eloquence which renders<br />
what I'd like to contribute<br />
moot.</p>

<p>A poem<br />
Is less prone to this problem.<br />
Moot points bought new life by warm<br />
forms.<br />
</p>
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         <content:encoded><p>Today is 1 August, Emancipation Day in the former British Empire.  </p>

<p><i>This is the moment when all things begin,<br />
until this hour we were just made for gain;<br />
the world becomes ours now to lose or win.</i></p>

<p><i>We do not care if millwheels cease to spin,<br />
all sugar's sweetness came from human pain;<br />
this is the moment when all things begin.</i></p>

<p><i>Now we may have our say without chagrin<br />
the master's silence making matters plain:<br />
the world becomes ours now to lose or win.</i></p>

<p><i>No sign of sorrow shows now on the skin,<br />
no  hint of any horror or harsh bane;<br />
this is the moment when all things begin.</i></p>

<p><i>A sunrise such as this has never been<br />
greeted by such a single joyous strain,<br />
the world becomes ours now to lose or win;</i></p>

<p><i>and now we cast our anger in the bin<br />
and wipe out all the years of horrid stain;<br />
this is the moment when all things begin,<br />
the world becomes ours now to lose or win.</i><br />
</p>
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         <content:encoded><p><i>A thousand stories wait still to be told,<br />
we pack our visions up and wrap them tight;<br />
this is the season when we pan for gold.</i></p>

<p><i>Your task to herd the lost sheep into fold<br />
and do so swiftly for too soon comes night,<br />
a thousand stories wait still to be told.</i></p>

<p><i>At height of summer not a one fears cold<br />
but you alone are left to warn of blight,<br />
this is the season when we pan for gold.</i></p>

<p><i>Give us the measure and we shall take hold<br />
of all the matters set within our sight,<br />
a thousand stories wait still to be told.</i></p>

<p><i>You seek to have all good things tightly rolled<br />
into the pattern while they are still bright,<br />
this is the season when we pan for gold.</i></p>

<p><i>Not one thing happens that is not controlled<br />
or so we hope as long as we have light;<br />
a thousand stories wait still to be told,<br />
this is the season when we pan for gold.</i></p>
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         <content:encoded><p>My limericks are little but facile<br />
Creating them is dreadful hassle<br />
Their one saving grace<br />
Keeps a smile on my face<br />
As I hear them all in the voice of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wait_Wait%E2%80%A6_Don%27t_Tell_Me%21" rel="nofollow">Carl Kassel</a></p>
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         <content:encoded><p><b><i>On not having a gift for rhyme</i></b></p>

<p>If words were numbers, mine would all be primes.<br />
My brain won't sort its topics out by sound --<br />
The filing system's more like a thesaurus.</p>

<p>I swear, I must have tried a zillion times<br />
To graft rhymes onto meanings, but still found<br />
Them distant from me as Ulan Bator is.</p>
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         <content:encoded><p>I don't think I've ever seen 'thesaurus' and 'Ulan Bator' in the same poem before. I think my mind is boggling.<br />
</p>
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         <content:encoded><p>Kathryn @ #73 and Teresa @ #80 have both won my entire heart, plus all the internets in my pocketses.</p>
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         <content:encoded><p>TNH #80: That's <i>not</i> having a gift?</p>
	 <p>Posted August  2, 2008  9:27 PM by Fragano Ledgister</p></content:encoded>
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         <description>comment from Linkmeister on  2.Aug.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>As a baseball fan, I'm quite enamored of Dave Bell's work @ #75.</p>
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         <content:encoded><p><em>My words are irreducible, <br />
but rhyming's not dividing.<br />
The words that rhyme just form for me<br />
an equivalence class.</em></p>

<p><em>So stanzas are producible<br />
empirically deciding<br />
if we want rhymes we hear or see<br />
and which rhythm will pass.</em></p>

<p>[*] You have to pronounce it E-quiv-A-lance.<br />
</p>
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         <content:encoded><p><em><br />
Himmery-shimmery <br />
forgotten memory<br />
holidays celebrate <br />
all the wrong things<br />
</em></p>

<p><em><br />
freeing the slaves should be <br />
our greatest memory <br />
followed by orbits, great<br />
moonshots and wings<br />
</em></p>
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         <content:encoded><p><em>challenge rings<br />
-are you reading?<br />
'crost the net<br />
-what we're needing<br />
a wonderful night<br />
filled with making light<br />
writing in an open poem thread</em></p>

<p><em>kept at bay<br />
-are the botnets<br />
for today<br />
-we've got sonnets[1]<br />
we'll break into song<br />
all the thread long<br />
writing in an open poem thread</em></p>

<p><em>In the ether we've got open mike night<br />
bring your limmericks, sonnets, villanelles<br />
Noobs with knocking knees can brave the stage fright<br />
and we'll draw deeper from our rhyming wells</em></p>

<p><em><br />
In a week<br />
-we'll remember<br />
as we flame<br />
-'til November<br />
the politics vile<br />
of some guy who made us smile<br />
writing in an open poem thread.<br />
</em></p>

<p></p>

<p>[1] What?  They <em>almost</em> rhyme.</p>
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         <content:encoded><p>With vocabulary and wit at hand<br />
I can rhyme for you on demand<br />
But I still utter curses<br />
over my trite verses<br />
Insignificant, predictable, bland*</p>

<p><br />
*but I'm working on it! Practice, practice, practice</p>
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         <content:encoded><p>And then there's alliterative poetry (an aid to memory, according to <a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/07/080730140837.htm" rel="nofollow">this</a>). Without trying to match the original meters, I rattled off a bit of it:</p>

<p>From frosty fjord to saltiest sea,<br />
Bards blew men's minds --<br />
Ah, alliteration!</p>

<p>Alas, an art<br />
We seldom see today.<br />
That lack leaves me</p>

<p>Mirthless. Wearily waiting<br />
For those close consonants,<br />
I've got the Beowulf blues.</p>
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         <description>comment from Erik Nelson on  7.Aug.08</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Verses about "Dinosaurs and Sodomy" should be written in double-'dactyls.</p>
	 <p>Posted August  7, 2008  3:32 PM by Erik Nelson</p></content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><p><strong>Erik @90:</strong></p>

<p>The phrase "dinosaur sodomy" is a double dactyl, as I found to my vexation when I was trying to write a <a href="http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008278.html#157462" rel="nofollow">sonnet</a> on the subject.  (Though my metrical troubles were productive of <a href="http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008278.html#157475" rel="nofollow">genuis</a> by Dan Layman-Kennedy.)</p>

<p>I did <a href="http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/007688.html#162666" rel="nofollow">succeeded in the end</a> with the sonnet.</p>
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         <content:encoded><p>Damn it all, abi, I work for a Vry Srs Company now. I can't be seen all giggling and blushing at my desk.</p>

<p>(Nonetheless: tee hee! And Thanks.)</p>
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         <content:encoded><p>I meant double-dactyls as in a pair o' ptero's.</p>
	 <p>Posted August  8, 2008  2:19 PM by Erik Nelson</p></content:encoded>
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