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March 9, 2010

Apology for lossage
Posted by Patrick at 07:03 AM *

The good news is that Making Light was moved to a new and more studly server last night. The bad news is that we were down from just before 10PM (EST) until just after midnight, and when we came back to life, we’d lost a number of comments posted just before the plug was pulled. If any of those comments were yours, we’re really sorry—we didn’t delete anything on purpose.

UPDATE: Okay, now we seem to have the missing comments, but the stuff posted since is gone. Investigating now. For the moment, it’s probably best to either refrain from posting anything, or keep a copy for yourself if it’s important. We’ll sound the giant civil-alert All Clear klaxon as soon as the fabric of reality stops shaking.

UPDATE, Thursday, March 11: Honk honk ah-OO-gah, etc. It does look like we’re stable. Sorry I haven’t extracted and reposted the missing comments yet; it’s been a busy two days. Will do so soon.

Comments on Apology for lossage:
#1 ::: kid bitzer ::: (view all by) ::: March 09, 2010, 07:29 AM:

lost it?

but i had just posted a copy of my self-published 1980 masterpiece about a boy wizard that contains everything that jk rowling stole! (spoiler: he uses a wand!)

and it was my only copy!

#2 ::: xeger ::: (view all by) ::: March 09, 2010, 08:12 AM:

You seem to be describing the way that I feel most mornings...

#3 ::: David Harmon ::: (view all by) ::: March 09, 2010, 09:41 AM:

and it was my only copy!

[blinks] Groaann!

(Lets see if this comment posts/persists)

#4 ::: Nangleator ::: (view all by) ::: March 09, 2010, 09:59 AM:

All that wisdom gone to join the ranks of the Obliterati...

#5 ::: Ingvar M ::: (view all by) ::: March 09, 2010, 10:01 AM:

I don't think I lost any comments, but I shall delight in saying "Making Light ate my homework!" if I'm ever in a situation to turn any in ever again.

#6 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: March 09, 2010, 10:14 AM:

We’ll sound the giant civil-alert All Clear klaxon

Before or after the Morlocks close the Sphynx's doors?

#7 ::: ajay ::: (view all by) ::: March 09, 2010, 10:16 AM:

The giant uncivil-alert klaxon is simply a looped recording of Ray Winstone shouting "OI! WAKE UP YOU NONCE!"

#8 ::: dcb ::: (view all by) ::: March 09, 2010, 10:23 AM:

The update is useful. I'll admit, it was somewhat disconcerting reading posts on a thread this morning, starting composing a reply in a text document, going back to it at lunchtime, refreshing the thread to check nobody else had posted - and finding the last several posts missing: "but I'm sure I read them. Surely I coudn't have imagined tham???"

#9 ::: P J Evans ::: (view all by) ::: March 09, 2010, 10:38 AM:

The disconcerting part was the message that the browser couldn't find the '404' page either.

#10 ::: Patrick Nielsen Hayden ::: (view all by) ::: March 09, 2010, 11:18 AM:

Okay, I believe I have tracked down the missing comments, and I'll repost them. But I can't do it immediately; I have one of those "meeting" things I'm told is part of "real life." Surely not?

#11 ::: Charlie Stross ::: (view all by) ::: March 09, 2010, 12:30 PM:

Just for once I'd like to hear about a blog site moving to an older and less studly server.

It must happen sometimes. Mustn't it?

#12 ::: David Dyer-Bennet ::: (view all by) ::: March 09, 2010, 12:46 PM:

Well, I moved my site from a dedicated server to shared hosting, some years back. That's the closest I can come up with immediately.

#13 ::: OtterB ::: (view all by) ::: March 09, 2010, 12:49 PM:

Charlie Stross @11, it happens by staying in place while everything else gets newer, shinier, and more studly.

#14 ::: Jules ::: (view all by) ::: March 09, 2010, 01:14 PM:

Charlie @11: I don't have a blog, but I did move my non-blog sites from a dedicated machine in a rack at telehouse to a Xen virtual machine hosting deal a few years back. Surely that counts?

OK, so the machine in the rack was a RaQ2 (from before Sun bought out Cobalt), and the new one was a somewhat swisher dual core Xeon job, but I only got a twelfth of the new one...

#15 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: March 09, 2010, 01:45 PM:

To me, a studly server is a hunky young waiter. Just so you know.

#16 ::: Bruce Baugh ::: (view all by) ::: March 09, 2010, 01:46 PM:

This is just a note to say

I have eaten
the comments
that were in
the queue

and which
you were probably
saving
for later posts

Forgive me
they were delicious
so sweet
and so informative

#17 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: March 09, 2010, 01:46 PM:

Is a studly server a stable one?

#18 ::: Ginger ::: (view all by) ::: March 09, 2010, 01:57 PM:

Serge @ 17: You never quit horsing around, do you? Nothing ever cows you..because you are dogged in your pursuit of the perfect pun. You don't even fish for compliments! When I grow up, I'd like toad emulate you.

#19 ::: Leroy F. Berven ::: (view all by) ::: March 09, 2010, 02:49 PM:

What the hay -- it's innate, when you have a bunch of barn punsters around. (And even Charlie Straws jumps in from time to time.)

#20 ::: Erik Nelson ::: (view all by) ::: March 09, 2010, 02:59 PM:

Oh, 404
has my favorite blog gone?
Oh, 404 can it be?

(I happen to have that earworm every time I see a 404 message. Just thought I'd pass it on and annoy you.)

#21 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: March 09, 2010, 03:01 PM:

...must not reply... or risk losing things... because Silence is geldin'.

#22 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: March 09, 2010, 03:11 PM:

Oops. Got things backassward up there.

#23 ::: Summer Storms ::: (view all by) ::: March 09, 2010, 04:19 PM:

Ingvar, #5: "Making Light ate my homework!"

That works even better without the outage. I took a uni class a year and a half ago, and can tell you that more than one of my assignments was truncated due to Making Light. Ah, if only the class had been Blog Commenting 101 - I'd have aced it!

#24 ::: Jon Hendry ::: (view all by) ::: March 09, 2010, 06:13 PM:

It's okay, it's just that the comments are being inserted through a slow glass filter.

#25 ::: elise ::: (view all by) ::: March 09, 2010, 06:30 PM:

For now we comment through a glass darkly,
but then we shall comment face to face?

#26 ::: TexAnne ::: (view all by) ::: March 09, 2010, 07:37 PM:

elise, 25: Yes.

#27 ::: Earl Cooley III ::: (view all by) ::: March 09, 2010, 07:42 PM:

Comment lossage
Is like making sausage,
Grinding the bits and the bytes and the memes.

Error message
Will certainly presage
Grinding of teeth as we burst at the seams.

#28 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: March 09, 2010, 09:44 PM:

As yet no grand "GAH-HOO_GAH" graces the front page. We are still in "comment if you want but anything you write might vanish as the morning dew" mode?

#29 ::: Earl Cooley III ::: (view all by) ::: March 09, 2010, 11:32 PM:

Drat, I posted too soon, here's a bit of a tweak; I hope it is viewed as an improvement.

Comment'ry lossage is
like making sausages,
grinding the bits and the
bytes and the memes.

Damn'd error messages
certainly presages
grinding of teeth as we
burst at the seams.

#30 ::: Wrye ::: (view all by) ::: March 10, 2010, 03:21 AM:

So...this would be an excellent time to post things that will be lost to posterity?

Dear girl I met through a personals ad in Victoria 12 years ago: I loved the fact you did social work and drove your dad's car. You were in every way awesome, the shaved head look really suited you, and in another universe where I didn't accidentally come off a bit creepy, and maybe we both didn't immediately tumble into bed because we were grieving, I would have liked to see what a second date would have been like. I hope you had a good life after that and didn't let your counselling work burn you out. You were something special.

#31 ::: Ingvar M ::: (view all by) ::: March 10, 2010, 05:15 AM:

Summer @ #23:

True, that. Well, that things on-line can eat time in ever-increasing gobbets of data. I have, though, been in the bizarre position that my homework ate my homework (one piece of a programming lab was interesting enough to play around with that the lab-as-a-whole was not finished on due date; thankfully, the short extension needed was granted when I explained why).

#32 ::: Studer ::: (view all by) ::: March 10, 2010, 07:32 AM:

Yeah, what happened to all the great (and no-so-great) comments I've been posting to this site over the year? They're all gone!

Oh, wait, I've just lurked here before. Hi!

Ingvar M @ 31: A friend of mine suffered a much more concrete version of that during a programming lab -- a bug in his program (a simple game running on simple 8-bit hardware) caused one of the monsters to move outside the screen memory and into the program memory, where it quite literally consumed large chunks of the source code. Good thing modern computers have memory protection :)

#33 ::: Rick York ::: (view all by) ::: March 10, 2010, 05:08 PM:

Don't worry about it. I'm 65 and probably lose a couple of gigabytes every day. :) Did I say that I'm 65 and........

#34 ::: Patrick Nielsen Hayden ::: (view all by) ::: March 11, 2010, 10:13 AM:

Xopher, #28: I've updated the original post, Just For You.

#35 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: March 11, 2010, 10:32 AM:

*honk bicycle horn, giggle, repeat*

Thank you, Patrick!

#36 ::: David Dyer-Bennet ::: (view all by) ::: March 11, 2010, 10:33 AM:

Patrick@34: I'd been kind of waiting for it too, just slightly more quietly. It seemed the moderators were treating the site as fully back, but I wondered if there might be work going on behind the scenes still.

#37 ::: David Harmon ::: (view all by) ::: March 11, 2010, 10:05 PM:

Cool! Thanks, folks!

#38 ::: David Manheim ::: (view all by) ::: March 12, 2010, 08:34 AM:

I'm sad; no one seems to be posting anything on the blog anymore. It's been 3 whole days!

#39 ::: xeger ::: (view all by) ::: March 12, 2010, 08:57 AM:

I did once have the dog eat all of my homework, and most of the math text book -- and brought it to school for show and tell :)

#40 ::: abi ::: (view all by) ::: March 12, 2010, 09:21 AM:

with a tuba?

#41 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: March 12, 2010, 09:33 AM:

I think dogs would prefer trombones.

#42 ::: OtterB ::: (view all by) ::: March 12, 2010, 09:34 AM:

The year my husband taught high school science, his students were amused when he brought in his teacher's edition textbook with the chewed-off corner and explained that the dog ate his book.

But no tubas. Possibly that would have been enough to get their attention, if only for a little while. (What have you ah-OOH-gahed for me lately?)

#43 ::: kid bitzer ::: (view all by) ::: March 12, 2010, 09:43 AM:

question:
how do you keep your tuba so clean and shiny?

answer:
with a tuba toothpaste.

question:
why should shylock have gotten his friend to represent him in court?

answer:
because tubal litigation is 100% effective.

(unfortunately, not many people fall into the overlap between shakespeare scholars and reproductive health specialists.
but they're more likely to be on this blog than most places!)

#44 ::: Mary Aileen ::: (view all by) ::: March 12, 2010, 11:38 AM:

What did the orchestra serve at lunch?
Tuba-salad sandwiches!

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I once posited that a beagle-poodle mix should be called a 'bugle'.

#45 ::: OtterB ::: (view all by) ::: March 12, 2010, 11:52 AM:

Tuba or not tuba, that is the question

#46 ::: Joel Polowin ::: (view all by) ::: March 12, 2010, 11:53 AM:

kid bitzer -- Oh, is that how Heinlein named Jubal Harshaw?

#47 ::: Angiportus ::: (view all by) ::: March 16, 2010, 03:45 PM:

I thought a studly server was one made out of 2 x 4's.
Or is that tuba-fours?

Choose:
Smaller type (our default)
Larger type
Even larger type, with serifs

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