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August 19, 2010

Messing about in boats
Posted by Abi Sutherland at 05:06 PM * 110 comments

Today was the first day of SAIL Amsterdam, the quinquennial tall ships festival. It’ll be going on until Monday.

The festival started as a one-off event in 1975 to celebrate Amsterdam’s septicentennial. But it was so much fun that they decided to do it every five years. It’s now the largest free event in the Netherlands, with tours of the tall ships, reenactments, and general festivities.

The first day includes a parade of ships along the IJ. But it’s not just the big ships, like the Amerigo Vespucci or the Kruzenshtern that throng the river. Thousands of smaller craft—pretty much everything riverworthy (and some not, probably)—join the nautical procession. My new office is on the seventh floor of a building overlooking the river†, and I saw small motorboats, speedboats, canal tour boats, and yachts of various sizes and conditions weaving in and out of the larger vessels. There were even a few flat boats with sofas on them, clearly the back gardens of houseboats which had been fitted up with motors*.

More than one of the tall ships fired a (blank) salute as they passed Centraal Station. Many of the smaller boats were playing music. There was drinking, and dancing‡, and passing of food between the boats. The ferries that had to cross all that traffic gave up entirely on schedules and just nosed their way patiently back and forth whenever they could.

It was spectacular. But I didn’t envy the river police their jobs today.

† Astonishingly enough, work got done today. We did stop to stare at the really good ships as they went past, but they were slow enough that entire quarter hours of uninterrupted effort also occurred.
* Many Amsterdam houseboats have something flat and floating moored to them with a couple of plants and some seating. Just because your house is on water is no excuse not to have someplace to sit outside of an evening. Never seen them on the move before, though.
‡ Some of it rather unwise, considering the size of the boats in question.

Comments on Messing about in boats:
#1 ::: ddb ::: (view all by) ::: August 19, 2010, 05:28 PM:

It is so cool that people are keeping ships of that type sailing. There was a gathering up in Duluth, on Lake Superior, last month, which I didn't make the time to go to (overnight trip, would have been a mob scene, no chance for decent photos, I keep telling myself; but I would have gotten to see them still).

#2 ::: dcb ::: (view all by) ::: August 19, 2010, 05:42 PM:

Sounds wonderful. I'm going to a conference on Vlieland next month. One of the options for accommodation was sleeping on a clipper. Unfortunately all the places had been taken, but I have booked to go for a sail on it one afternoon.

#3 ::: Jacque ::: (view all by) ::: August 19, 2010, 06:07 PM:

Tall ships are so wonderfully baroque.

Any inner tubes to be seen in the flotilla? (I imagine it's a little cold for that....)

#4 ::: Mark ::: (view all by) ::: August 19, 2010, 06:15 PM:

And if it ain't baroque, don't fix it.

#5 ::: Erik Nelson ::: (view all by) ::: August 19, 2010, 07:55 PM:

i remember they had the bicentennial tall ships in nyc in '76.

#6 ::: Kip W ::: (view all by) ::: August 19, 2010, 09:56 PM:

When I Googled "messing about in boats," the hit above Making Light is Duckworks. When I go to Duckwords and search for "bob williams," I get two photos of my dad in his IMB:
(he's wearing a red vest in both pictures)

Coincidence? I THINK NOT.

#7 ::: Kip W ::: (view all by) ::: August 19, 2010, 09:56 PM:


What would Orwell say??

#8 ::: Mary Aileen ::: (view all by) ::: August 19, 2010, 10:04 PM:

KipW (7): "Quack"

#9 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: August 19, 2010, 10:23 PM:

Mark @ 4... And if it ain't a barque...

#10 ::: Ginger ::: (view all by) ::: August 19, 2010, 10:28 PM:

Serge @9: ..then it's a loony way of getting a boat.

#11 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: August 19, 2010, 10:53 PM:

Ginger @ 10... Canoe say that fast, many times?

#12 ::: C. Wingate ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 12:29 AM:

re 5: They came to Baltimore the same year. Personally I've always thought the Mircea the most beautiful of the lot. Looking at their articles in Wikipedia it's striking how often the words "Germany" and "war reparations" appear.

#13 ::: janetl ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 12:49 AM:

Several years ago, I stopped for the night in Tacoma so I could make a nice long visit to the Museum of Glass. To my great surprise, I found the harbor full of tall ships. Not as amazing an array as abi's describing, but sitting in a restaurant, watching the sun set, I saw one after another archaic and lovely ship sail into the harbor.

It is not, alas, an annual event.

#14 ::: Tim Walters ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 01:44 AM:

A Facebook friend posted some pictures of the event, looking exactly like J.M.W. Turner paintings, tall ships, skies, and all.

#15 ::: Janet Brennan Croft ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 08:36 AM:

I want to move to Amsterdam. That's all.

#16 ::: Dan Hoey ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 09:54 AM:

Serge@9, Ginger@10: The barque is worse than the boat.

#17 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 10:35 AM:

Dan Hoey @ 16... Not mizzen any chance to pun, eh?

#18 ::: Ginger ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 11:14 AM:

Serge @ 17: We'll have to ketch up to him.

#19 ::: OtterB ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 11:21 AM:

Ginger @18: Yawl have to hurry.

#20 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 11:32 AM:

If we keep piling it on, we'll need to be dugout.

#21 ::: Cadbury Moose ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 11:35 AM:

Some people make a careen out of punting puns into ML.

#22 ::: ddb ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 11:37 AM:

Okay, that's too much, I'm bailing.

#23 ::: Tom Whitmore ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 12:03 PM:

A group of SCA-types rented the Golden Hind for a party in Oakland one year, and Berkeley Morris went along and danced. One of the odder bits was doing the dance "Leapfrog" in the lower part of the ship, an event we referred to afterwards as "Toad in the Hold".

#24 ::: Caroline ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 12:16 PM:

"We could boat about in mess. Same thing."
"Not exactly."

Those are really beautiful ships. After reading the Aubrey/Maturin books, I have romantic daydreams of sailing the world. When I heard about the Concordia, I was mostly upset that I hadn't known about the existence of a floating high school on a tall ship in time to attend.

#25 ::: jnh ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 12:32 PM:

Another thread where we will continue with the scuttlebutt until the bitter end.

#26 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 12:38 PM:

jnh @ 25... until the bitter end

Quay sera sera.

#27 ::: ddb ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 12:38 PM:

Caroline@24: Which reminds me, does anybody know what actually happened with the Concordia? I read essentially the article you linked at the time, and haven't seen (and don't find immediately in Google news) any followup.

#28 ::: Mark ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 01:53 PM:

Keep up with the puns or not as you like, it's a freeboard.

#29 ::: Ginger ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 02:02 PM:

Nobody will be mizzen out on all the fun!

#30 ::: ddb ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 02:38 PM:

Ginger@29: Not even the royals will miss out!

Afterward we could go bowline. At least, anybody that doesn't gybe at the thought (which could get to be wearing I suppose).

#31 ::: OtterB ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 02:47 PM:

This hull discussion is getting a little wearing.

#32 ::: Lizzy L ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 02:55 PM:

The tall ships come to San Francisco every three years; they were last here in 2008, and I didn't go to any of the events. When they come next year I intend to at least watch them come in.

#33 ::: TexAnne ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 03:08 PM:

Wearing? I would have said tacky!

#34 ::: abi ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 03:17 PM:

This afternoon, we (the kids and I) cycled south and took a couple of ferries to one of the areas where tall ships were moored.

The ferry rides were definitely part of the adventure; although most of the really huge ships are now parked and letting people tour them, the river was full of everything else, from the merely big down to "you got three people in that?"* Most of these vessels seemed to be cruising up and down the river in a (reasonably) stately aquatic promenade.

The kids tried out the climbing wall that the Koninglijke Marines were running; Alex got up all five meters and rang the bell; Fiona was too small to reach enough of the handholds. They both got Frisbees for trying. We wandered around the Dewaruci, an Indonesian three-masted square rigger (it's apparently part of their navy.)

Of course, what the kids liked best was the street fair nearby with the demo tent full of Guitar Hero and DJ Hero controllers.

* To say nothing of the crate of beer.

#35 ::: joann ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 03:21 PM:

Lizzy L #32:

What time of year? This might be something to plan around ...

#36 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 04:13 PM:

TexAnne @ 33... tacky!

Well, we are a bunch of mean tugs.

#37 ::: Cadbury Moose ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 04:14 PM:

Pity we can't get TexAnne the Captain's Gig.

#38 ::: Marilee ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 05:14 PM:

The US has tall ships in challenges and cruises and so forth.

#39 ::: ddb ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 05:14 PM:

There you go barging in again!

#40 ::: TexAnne ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 05:19 PM:

And of course, since I'm far away from home right now, I can only dream of Texas beaches. Who can doubt th'impervious delight of a Lee-ward shore?

(non-USians: Houston, where Lee lives, is on the Gulf Coast.)

#41 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 05:22 PM:

TexAnne... I myself live near the Gulf of New Mexico. Never heard of it?

#42 ::: Martin Wisse ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 05:26 PM:

The best ship (or boat rather) that I saw was a catamaran somebody had made by welding what was basically an overgrown chair onto two surf planks, then put an outboard motor on it. Barely seaworthy, but funny.

Took an incredibly long time for the regular ferry to cross those fifty metres of water between Central Station and Noord though...

#43 ::: Earl Cooley III ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 05:48 PM:

This thread makes me want to re-read my O'Brian and Forester books. heh.

#44 ::: TexAnne ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 05:52 PM:

My scansion was off. I should have put "th'impervious pleasure of a Lee-ward shore."

This comment brought to you by l'esprit de post-post.

#45 ::: ddb ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 06:02 PM:

Earl Cooley@43: I am in fact on an O'Brian re-read right now (with time out for one C. Northcote Parkinson book in the middle).

TexAnne@44: Especially in the improved version, really excellent!

#46 ::: Lee ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 06:50 PM:

TexAnne, #40: *giggle*

Actually, we're not on the coast, but about an hour's drive inland. Galveston is on the coast, which is why it got slammed so much harder during Ike. But we are close enough to keep our average temperature range (both summer and winter) rather less extreme than Dallas or Austin.

#47 ::: KayTei ::: (view all by) ::: August 20, 2010, 07:30 PM:

Alas, once again late enough that any comments I might make would be for naut...

#48 ::: Terry Karney ::: (view all by) ::: August 21, 2010, 12:09 AM:

The Indonesian ship appears to be on the same draught as the USCG Eagle.

#49 ::: Leroy F. Berven ::: (view all by) ::: August 21, 2010, 01:53 AM:

Texanne @ 44: I'll Grant you that one. And should you ground on such a Lee-ward shore, do make a point of having the proper tools to dig yourself out -- with the Appo-mattocks.

#50 ::: TexAnne ::: (view all by) ::: August 21, 2010, 08:35 AM:

Lee, 46: I've been to your house, remember? Grant me some poetic license!

Forgive me
I have twisted
the facts
that were in

and which
you were probably
for your blog

Forgive me
I was punning
so Serge-like
and so bored

#51 ::: janra ::: (view all by) ::: August 21, 2010, 03:08 PM:

Now I'm curious, Abi... do you by chance work across the IJ from Centraal Station, in a tower with golden windows south and west?

Because if you do, I worked there for one of my student internships several years ago.

#52 ::: tykewriter ::: (view all by) ::: August 21, 2010, 03:12 PM:

Draught Eagle, Terry? Cheers!

(I tried to post this earlier but it wouldn't do my link.)

#53 ::: abi ::: (view all by) ::: August 21, 2010, 03:37 PM:

janra @51:

No, I work on the same side of the IJ as Centraal, on Oosterdokeiland. We're right behind the new (and lovely) Openbare Bibliotheek Amsterdam main branch.

#54 ::: janra ::: (view all by) ::: August 21, 2010, 03:48 PM:

Oh well, what would the chances be...

I saw the tall ships as well when I was there. It was the only day we were allowed to have cameras at work.

#55 ::: Laura ::: (view all by) ::: August 21, 2010, 07:26 PM:

Poop poop!

#56 ::: dcb ::: (view all by) ::: August 22, 2010, 12:33 PM:

Lee @ 46: Anywhere near League City (which is where my aunt & uncle live)?

#57 ::: Daniel Boone ::: (view all by) ::: August 22, 2010, 02:38 PM:

I spent too much money (measured one way, against what I could afford at the time) for a day sail on the Lady Washington out of Gray's Harbor, Washington when she passed through Juneau, Alaska ten or twelve years ago. But it was a highly memorable sail and I'd do it again in a heartbeat if the opportunity came up.

Big sailing ships are huge impractical white elephants in this age where everybody is in a hurry and labor is expensive. But they are great fun.

#58 ::: abi ::: (view all by) ::: August 22, 2010, 03:42 PM:

Laura @55:

Fo'c'sle fo'c'sle!

#59 ::: TexAnne ::: (view all by) ::: August 22, 2010, 04:02 PM:

abi, 58: You beat me to it. Stop thwarting me!

#60 ::: Lee ::: (view all by) ::: August 22, 2010, 04:13 PM:

TexAnne, #50: Sorry -- my comment was for the benefit of those not living nearby. Nice riposte, though!

dcb, #56: League City is actually south of us, about halfway between Houston and Galveston. I have a friend who lives there, and while I'm not fond of the drive during rush hour, on weekends it's not a big deal. So when are you coming to visit your aunt and uncle? ;-)

#61 ::: abi ::: (view all by) ::: August 22, 2010, 04:32 PM:

TexAnne @59:

I think your anchor is misplaced; I gave you nearly a day to sail you wanted before I decided it was my tar-n. So don't come in and deck me now.

#62 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: August 22, 2010, 04:33 PM:

This (sea)sickness known as punning obviously is ketching.

#63 ::: TexAnne ::: (view all by) ::: August 22, 2010, 04:49 PM:

abi, I'm studdinged.

#64 ::: dcb ::: (view all by) ::: August 22, 2010, 05:40 PM:

Lee @ 60: well, the last time I visited them I ended up with a dislocated shoulder... (not their fault - it was my cousin who suggested we should go to the ice rink). And my husband really doesn't want to go to the US now you get fingerprinted etc. (I don't like it myself). So... But if I do, I'll let you know.

#65 ::: Terry Karney ::: (view all by) ::: August 22, 2010, 06:07 PM:

I'm stunned sudden sweep of puns, belay that, I am taken aback. This is a bitter end to a splendid day, my soul was aloft, but now I'm scuppered; by and large I can steer a course through this sort of thing, but there is no one to pilot me home, and I am adrift.

#66 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: August 22, 2010, 07:09 PM:

Honestly people, these constant jibes have got to stop.

#67 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: August 22, 2010, 07:25 PM:

It doesn't matter how big a pinnace is. It's what you do wih it.

#68 ::: Tom Whitmore ::: (view all by) ::: August 22, 2010, 07:30 PM:

abi @58 -- are there atheists in those fo'c'sles?

#69 ::: P J Evans ::: (view all by) ::: August 22, 2010, 08:11 PM:

(hoists all the flags and pennants available)

#70 ::: TexAnne ::: (view all by) ::: August 22, 2010, 08:26 PM:

This is all wherry exciting, but I wish Fragano were here to barge in.

#71 ::: jnh ::: (view all by) ::: August 22, 2010, 08:50 PM:

I'm stunsl'd that all of you have been keeping the skylarking going, even though one of our topgallants is on leave. But we know that the moderators won't lower the boom.

#72 ::: Mark ::: (view all by) ::: August 22, 2010, 09:50 PM:

You people will keep this up until Death comes riding on his pale hawse, hatches in his mouth, hellhounds following baring their cannon teeth...

#73 ::: TexAnne ::: (view all by) ::: August 22, 2010, 10:22 PM:

Me at 63: Ha-h'm, y'all.

#74 ::: tykewriter ::: (view all by) ::: August 22, 2010, 11:03 PM:

I wasn’t going to ship in with any junk along these lines, as I didn’t want to sloop to yaw level, but then I thought Frigate. Why the hull knot?

#75 ::: Marty in Boise ::: (view all by) ::: August 23, 2010, 12:08 AM:

Stop this nonsense! You're keeling me. (Could my face be any rudder?)

#76 ::: Marty in Boise ::: (view all by) ::: August 23, 2010, 12:23 AM:

Suggested musical accompaniment for this thread:

Mary J. Bilge
Talking Heads
The Beach Buoys
Soundtrack from West Side's Dory

#77 ::: Anne Sheller ::: (view all by) ::: August 23, 2010, 08:25 AM:

This thread is faering none too well.

#78 ::: Terry Karney ::: (view all by) ::: August 23, 2010, 09:22 AM:

Anne Sheller: Nope, it's careening all over the place. Everyone here seems to be some sort of loose cannon.

The scuttlebutt is that it will, more later than sooner, run it's course, and all will be plain sailing thereafter.

I'm not holding my breath.

#79 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: August 23, 2010, 11:44 AM:

@ 78... Everyone here seems to be some sort of loose cannon

No dunsel in distress?

#80 ::: Sarah S. ::: (view all by) ::: August 23, 2010, 11:57 AM:

I apologize for bowline in here with my lame sheet. But I woke up this morning with a real anchoring to get in line for some puns.

#81 ::: Carol Kimball ::: (view all by) ::: August 23, 2010, 12:04 PM:

All this, and no one's threatened to spanker?

#82 ::: Cally Soukup ::: (view all by) ::: August 23, 2010, 01:58 PM:

Hold on, idler think we're all mates here!

#83 ::: Michael I ::: (view all by) ::: August 23, 2010, 01:58 PM:

I guess we didn't want to talk about paddling. Oar anything related.

#84 ::: Sarah S. ::: (view all by) ::: August 23, 2010, 02:17 PM:

Michael I @83

Canoe stop it, please?

#85 ::: Cadbury Moose ::: (view all by) ::: August 23, 2010, 04:04 PM:


Well, there's been no slap (nor tickle) so far. Terry appeared to be in the doldrums back at #65 and #78 and I hope he will up spirits soon. In the (Greenwich) meantime, the punning continues to be a luff while Serge and Xopher vie for the position of top gallant. This moose has a fair amount of latitude where puns are concerned, and they are always on tropic.

#86 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: August 23, 2010, 04:35 PM:

Hmmm.. While Cadbury and other enjoy the punning mastery exhibited, the likes of Sarah S appear to wish we'd keel over.

#87 ::: ddb ::: (view all by) ::: August 23, 2010, 04:44 PM:

Iron sick of it myself. I suppose people get something from flogging a dead horse, but this thread has kinda entered the doldrums.

(Contemplating rum, sodomy, and the lash -- with dinosaurs!)

#88 ::: Terry Karney ::: (view all by) ::: August 23, 2010, 05:17 PM:

I think this one's round the bend, we've let't fall too far.

Now the cat is out of the bag, no quarter shall be given, and everyone who can shake a leg has turned to.

I don't want to painter bad a picture, but we're between the devil and the deep blue sea here.

#89 ::: Mary Aileen ::: (view all by) ::: August 23, 2010, 06:49 PM:

This is becoming a rum thread.

#90 ::: Terry Karney ::: (view all by) ::: August 23, 2010, 08:41 PM:

Mary Aileen: that must be why I feel so groggy.

#91 ::: catmandu ::: (view all by) ::: August 24, 2010, 11:35 AM:

It's all fogged up

#92 ::: Bombie ::: (view all by) ::: August 24, 2010, 05:00 PM:

Serge @86
Well smack! Cutter some slack, would ya?
Sarah's not alone in this!
I don't buoy into this whole punning thing either. I fear there might be a ketch.

(Nau understand that this ain't nothin' personal)

#93 ::: Paul A. ::: (view all by) ::: August 25, 2010, 03:43 AM:

I am reminded of an anecdote I heard long ago, concerning the HMS Sirius and a smaller ship named, for reasons lost for history, the Fergossake.

Sadly, not being good with nautical details, I've forgotten most of the lead-up, but I shall never forget the denouement, in which the captain of the former ship hails the latter in the following words:

"Fergossake, this is Sirius! Stop luffing!"

#94 ::: Erik Nelson ::: (view all by) ::: August 25, 2010, 04:24 PM:

Give these punsters an inch and they'll take a yard.

#95 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: August 25, 2010, 10:47 PM:

These naval puns really started because of Ginger. I guess we should tanker for it all.

#96 ::: Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: August 25, 2010, 11:37 PM:

Did someone already point out that watching the tall ships counts as naval gazing?

#97 ::: Michael I ::: (view all by) ::: August 26, 2010, 07:27 AM:

Somehow we seem to have missed that very sailient point.

#98 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: August 26, 2010, 07:58 AM:

A question for connaisseurs (and connaisseuses) of Gilbert & Sullivan... At the end of Kevin Kline's movie version of The Pirates of Punzance, his crew runs into a theater where The HMS Punafore is playing. Was that in the original too?

#99 ::: tykewriter ::: (view all by) ::: August 26, 2010, 08:04 AM:

I don't think so, Serge, but the Major General claimed to be able to "whistle all the airs from that infernal nonsense Pinafore", so WSG did do self-referential.

#100 ::: ajay ::: (view all by) ::: August 26, 2010, 09:02 AM:

99: as did Mozart. In the final act of "Don Giovanni", he has the Don listening to musicians playing his own "Marriage of Figaro" and two other operas: "Una cosa rara" (by Martin, not Mozart, but libretto by da Ponte, who also wrote the libretto for both "Figaro" and "Don Giovanni") and "Litiganti", which is by Sarti.

The Don and Leporello both applaud the Martin and Sarti pieces, but when "Figaro" starts playing, Leporello groans "I know this piece only too well". It's the very famous and earwormish "Non piu andrai", and it's so earwormish that a few minutes later, Leporello finds himself and the Don "talking" together to the same tune.

#101 ::: Michael I ::: (view all by) ::: August 26, 2010, 09:10 AM:

Serge@98, tykewriter@99

One of Isaac Asimov's "Black Widowers" stories actually makes the Pinafore reference the key plot point.

(The point being that there were two possible years for the events of "Pirates of Penzance": one of them the year before Pinafore opened, the other five years before Pinafore opened.)

#102 ::: ddb ::: (view all by) ::: August 26, 2010, 09:37 AM:

Serge@98: None of the performances I've seen, or the version I've read, have a theater where Pinafore is being performed anywhere in Penzeance. But, as tykewriter says, there is a reference to Pinafore (but not to theaters) in the Major General's song.

#103 ::: Serge ::: (view all by) ::: August 26, 2010, 10:27 AM:

Thanks, everybody. By the way, a few days ago, I read a story wherein the Pirates of Penzance go back to their old piratical ways and the Pinafore goes after them and things don't go too well when Captain Hook shows up. Yes, it's a Waldrop story, of course.

#104 ::: catmandu ::: (view all by) ::: August 26, 2010, 10:51 AM:

Reminds me of that old SNL skit, "After a long night of comforting from Captain Ned, the Raging Queen sailed on."

#105 ::: David Harmon sees spanish spam ::: (view all by) ::: November 21, 2011, 06:38 AM:

looks like cause for divorce to me...

#106 ::: TexAnne sees spam ::: (view all by) ::: December 06, 2011, 08:49 PM:

And it's not even *interesting* word salad.

#107 ::: janetl sees spam ::: (view all by) ::: January 01, 2012, 04:09 AM:

There's spam at #108

#108 ::: TexAnne sees spam ::: (view all by) ::: April 22, 2012, 08:06 AM:

An advertisement for basketball training. Of course, adding basketball training to one's messing about in boats will make one as wet as Dr. Maturin when Bonden is not there to help.

(I have Bonden on my mind just now, having reached _The Yellow Admiral_, his poor pigtail the sorrow and woe. I know what else is going to happen soon, the back of my hand to it.)

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#110 ::: Xopher HalfTongue sees semi-coherent SPAM probe ::: (view all by) ::: April 26, 2012, 07:30 PM:

Now that movie go hard? WTF does that even mean?

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