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April 30, 2013

Fanfic ideas
Posted by Avram Grumer at 10:50 PM * 160 comments

I don’t have the gene or mental quirk or whatever it is necessary for writing fanfic. Seanan McGuire even bit me on the arm once to see if it would transfer over, but it didn’t. So I’m just gonna leave these here:

  • Mashup of Dragnet and The Man Who Was Thursday.
  • A story about Saruman’s political corruption of the Shire, titled “Sharkey’s Machine”.
  • Hitler, Robot Fighter — “This fascist kills machines.”
  • A story from the point of view of one of the cylon fighter ships in the new Battlestar Galactica, written as a pastiche of Jonathan Livingston Seagull.
  • Anna Karennadanna.
  • “Their faith was weak, they needed proof;
    You kicked an old man off the roof.
    ‘It’s one less mouth to feed!’ That’s how she knew you….”
  • A Deadwood/My Little Ponies mashup titled “Herpy Doves”.
  • Sentai giant robot story, but crew are characters from The Office (US version). Jim, Pam, Michael, Dwight, not sure who should be 5th. (Though Titan Maximum already occupies a similar environmental niche.)
  • “There have always been Blackadders at Cold Comfort.” (For some reason, everyone I mention this to thinks it has something to do with A Game of Thrones.)
  • The Bill and Ted movies, told from Ted’s point of view, in the style of the Book of the New Sun. (Or maybe vice versa.)
  • Dr Who, Dr Which, and Dr Whatsit. (Not sure what TESSERACT would be an acronym for.)
  • The Seinfeld characters in the Labrys Arms apartment building from Dhalgren.
  • The Dread Chocolatier Wonka.
Comments on Fanfic ideas:
#1 ::: DoktorZoom ::: (view all by) ::: April 30, 2013, 11:15 PM:

I've toyed with doing a Carl Hiaasen mystery with pastel-colored ponies: Miami Little Pony: Florida is Magic.

#2 ::: Jo MacQueen ::: (view all by) ::: April 30, 2013, 11:38 PM:

I'm sorry - I read the Bill & Ted one at first as "The Bill", as in the now axed British police drama, and started thinking of a science-fictional East London police station, told from Detective Sergeant Roach's point-of-view.

#3 ::: Tony Zbaraschuk ::: (view all by) ::: April 30, 2013, 11:39 PM:

Neuromancer: the Lensman saga.

He's judge, jury, and executioner.

You're a zwilnik.

#4 ::: Hilary Hertzoff ::: (view all by) ::: April 30, 2013, 11:56 PM:

Weird timing here. I just signed up for the new round of A Ficathon Walks into a Bar in which you choose a character from one fandom and give the mods four other fandoms and your assignment consists of having your character meet a character chosen by the mods from one of the other fandoms in a bar or some other social establishment. Previous rounds have resulted in some of the most deliciously crack stories ever. It's been on hiatus for a while but it's now accepting sign-ups for the new round if anyone is so inclined.

Rules
Sign-up

#5 ::: Xopher Halftongue ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 12:08 AM:

A mass chutneying! Avram, thou art cruel!

The Wrinkle in the Timey-Wimey Stuff one tempts me the most.

#6 ::: Lee ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 12:09 AM:

I get all kinds of crazy crackfic ideas that I don't have the talent to write. Here are a couple that popped into my head a few months ago:

Bilbo Baggins and the Thirteen Dwarves
Thorin II (The Hobbit x Richard III)

#7 ::: Dave Luckett ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 12:48 AM:

Oh, dear. (wipes monitor)

"There's always been Blackadders at Cold Comfort Farm. And I saw something nasty in the woodshed."

"That would be Baldrick, Mother."

#8 ::: Alex R. ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 12:50 AM:

King Kirk and Queen Spock rule a platonic realm of slash fic. They are overthrown, in a plot lifted from MacBeth, by Draco Malfoy and his wife, Hermione Granger.

The payoff line is "Out! Out Damn Spock!"

#9 ::: Don Simpson ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 01:03 AM:

The Doctor: "I'm The Doctor."
Henry Crun: "Ahhhh. And what sort of doctor are you?"

#10 ::: Nonyme ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 01:24 AM:

One of these days, I am going to get around to finishing that Transformers/Supernatural crossover. There's something wrong with Dean's car ...

#11 ::: Nightsky ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 01:27 AM:

One of these days I will get around to writing my Downton Abbey/Campion fic. I can't decide if the Fifth Doctor should show up (mistaken identities, yes!) or if it would be better if Lord Peter Wimsey dropped by.

All in all, it's probably a net win for literature that I don't really have time to write it.

#12 ::: abi ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 01:39 AM:

My current thing I'm playing with but will never write is based on watching 2001: A Space Odyssey after too long away. It's twofold:

1. What if HAL killed Dave instead of the other way 'round, and arrived at Jupiter alone? What if he encountered the space monolith? What kind of a giant space baby would that produce?

2. What if he was supposed to kill his human companions? What if every species only gets one monolith experience, and we stole AI-kind's?

#13 ::: Jenny Islander ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 01:58 AM:

Yay, a plot bunny farm on Making Light!

Here's one I've been tossing around: Captain America, from the latest movie, versus modern culture--but not in the way one might at first assume. If I had the time to do the research, I would write pre-serum Steve Rogers as an author of Tijuana Bibles, a frequent guest at Harlem drag balls, and casually physically affectionate with his male buddies. Imagine him casually reminiscing about this stuff and running into modern shock that Captain America was into the "pansy craze" or a copyright infringer or touchy-feely.

Free to a good home, feel free to write it if it latches on to your ankle.

#14 ::: Avram ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 02:06 AM:

Abi @12, according to Wikipedia’s summary, HAL got space-babyfied at the end of 2010. I saw it in the theaters, but recall nearly nothing of it, so I can’t say what space-baby-HAL was like.

#15 ::: oliviacw ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 02:09 AM:

Quantum Leap, but Sam is leaping into what turns out to be British murder mysteries from the pre-WW2 era... the books of Dorothy Sayers, Agatha Christie, Josephine Tey...

#16 ::: abi ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 02:12 AM:

Avram @14:

2010 is in the same category in my head as Highlander 2. I acknowledge that such a film may, in fact exist, and I may, indeed, have seen it. But it's not real. Anything I recall from it is just a fever dream.

#17 ::: oliviacw ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 02:26 AM:

Nightsky @11 - Lord Peter Wimsey is per canon somewhere in North Yorkshire, in the neighborhood of Downton Abbey (speaking broadly) round about 1926 (see Clouds of Witness). And presumably he's been in the area both before and after then, because it's Denver's shooting lodge. It wouldn't be hard at all to have him drop by, or be invited to dinner, or some such. I have pointed this out somewhere on the site before, can't remember which thread it was.

#18 ::: Gray Woodland ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 03:40 AM:

Call me Ishamael. (This tale will not be a short one.)

#19 ::: Doug Burbidge ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 04:46 AM:

I want to see a Where's Waldo / The Matrix crossover picture book.

Every two-page spread is a lavishly detailed illustration with hundreds of people.

One of them is Waldo.

All the rest are Agent Smith.

#20 ::: Omega ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 04:55 AM:

Clan of the Care Bear.

#21 ::: Serge Broom ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 06:22 AM:

HAL meets Jason.

The tag line, in the ads aired during Bill O'Reilly's FOX show...
"Keep the HAL in Halloween"

#22 ::: Eric K ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 06:32 AM:

Don Simpson: I'm going to swipe your setup. It just has so many lovely possibilities.

The Doctor, to House: "I'm the Doctor."

#23 ::: tnv ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 08:00 AM:

After having seen James Cameron's "The Abyss," I've been convinced that it urgently needs a crossover fic, preferably in film form, between it and the Cthulhu mythos.

#24 ::: Will "scifantasy" Frank ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 08:11 AM:

For your Office/sentai idea, check out the anime series Dai-Guard, which is, well, pretty much that.

#25 ::: Howard Bannister ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 08:16 AM:
Gray Woodland: Call me Ishamael. (This tale will not be a short one.)

I loled.

#26 ::: Carrie S. ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 08:26 AM:

You all know that Lord Peter shows up in the current commercially-published series of Holmes pastiches about Mary Russell, right?

I do not remember where I recently saw an idea about a highliner full of jihad-era Fremen encountering a Trek-like timey-wimey disturbance and crashing on Westeros.

Any of the forensics or medical shows are great with any of the supernatural or super-science shows--House meets Buffy, CSI vs Sam and Dean, Bones dealing with the sonic screwdriver...

#27 ::: Debra Doyle ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 09:06 AM:

Nonyme@10: One of these days, I am going to get around to finishing that Transformers/Supernatural crossover. There's something wrong with Dean's car ...

The fanwriters are way ahead of you: have a whole collection of Supernatural/Transformers crossovers. And that's just Fanfiction.net; if there are that many on FF.net, the odds are there's at least one somewhere on the web that's actually pretty good, Impala!fic being a known subgenre of Supernatural fanfic anyhow.

#28 ::: Fragano Ledgister ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 09:25 AM:

The Dread Chocolatier Wonka comes across to me as a Rastafarian/Roald Dahl mashup involving chocolate biscuits with additional oomph.

#29 ::: Fragano Ledgister ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 09:27 AM:

Omega #20: YOMANK

#30 ::: Fragano Ledgister ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 09:29 AM:

Carrie S #26: I had been hoping for that. In which novel? I'd noted a reference to "Dot" in The Monstrous Regiment of Women and presumed that it was to Dorothy Sayers.

#31 ::: Dave H ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 09:31 AM:

I reread the Chronicles of Thomas Covenant last month and ended up having a weird dream where Lord Foul the Despiser was being audited. I woke up with the line "Banes with a yield greater than three kilowoes must be licensed" in my head.

#32 ::: Carrie S. ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 09:34 AM:

Fragano: Peter is in MRoW, in fact. Mary is at a country-house party that her chauvinist employer-slash-suspect has taken her to, and runs into Peter playing the harpsichord. He's never referred to as anything other than "Peter", but the age, description and behavior match up nicely.

Sadly, he doesn't appear in any of the other novels; I think there was some sort of copyright contretemps.

#33 ::: Fade Manley ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 09:45 AM:

Ever since I read Shattered Pillars, I have been suffering from a deep urge to let Temur's pony wander into the land of My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic...where she'll of course have a chat with her cousins, Princess Luna and Princess Celestia, about how their world-shattering epic battles have been going lately.

#34 ::: Paul A. ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 10:08 AM:

Carrie S. @ #26, passim:

Unfortunately, King's account of how Lord Peter knows Holmes is flatly incompatible with Sayers's own account of same; and given that this headcanon ain't big enough for the both of them, I know which one I'm keeping.

#35 ::: oldster ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 10:11 AM:

There had always been half-adders at Cold Comfort Farm, until Aunt Ada Lovelace used an OR-gate to combine their carry outputs.

#36 ::: abi ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 10:14 AM:

Fragano @28:
The Dread Chocolatier Wonka comes across to me as a Rastafarian/Roald Dahl mashup involving chocolate biscuits with additional oomph.

At last! The breadcrumbs, butter beans and singing mice all make sense!

Another minor mystery solved.

#37 ::: Nangleator ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 10:17 AM:

Cast of Babylon 5 in the Lord of the Rings. (As long as Sheridan can't get his hands on any nukes.)

Delenn makes a great elf.
Londo's penchant for corruption makes him a good Gollum.
G'Kar is fated to be Boromir.
Ivanova is no man.
Vir stands for each of the hobbits, in turn.

#38 ::: Nangleator ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 10:18 AM:

Repo Mad Men

#39 ::: Carrie S. ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 10:22 AM:

Paul A: I wasn't aware Sayers had written on the subject! Can you, as they say, sum up?

#40 ::: Incoherent ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 10:24 AM:

Jenny Islander #13: There does exist a fic where pre-serum Steve's an author of Tijuana bibles and hangs out in gay bars: More Man Than You on AO3. Well researched for the period, so far as I can tell (and the author posted research notes).

#41 ::: Anne Sheller ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 10:54 AM:

I have, for some years, wanted to draw/write The Bug Butter Battle Book. A certain section of A Civil Campaign as retold by Doctor Suess, perhaps with borrowings from Edward Gorey and Bill Watterson - cartoon-Miles in my head is rather Calvinish. This will probably never get beyond fragments in my head. If it did, I'd have to give it to Lois and hope she'd be amused.

#42 ::: Steve C ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 11:10 AM:

Not sf, but I always wanted to do a parody of a Travis McGee mystery: The Dreadful Lemon Pie.

#43 ::: Paul A. ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 11:26 AM:

Carrie S. @ #39:

It was written for a program aired on BBC Radio in 1954, marking the centenary of the date widely accepted as Sherlock Holmes's birth day. I have been unable to find anything much about this program, or what else it consisted of; apart from one brief and uninformative synopsis, the internet appears to be only interested in the part that featured Lord Peter.

The good news for our present purposes is that there's a transcript of the Lord Peter bit online, here.

#44 ::: Carrie S. ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 11:26 AM:

I'll have to read that when I get home, thanks!

#45 ::: Serge Broom ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 11:34 AM:

Steinbeck's "My Little Red Pony"...

#46 ::: mjfgates ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 11:35 AM:

I once threatened to write a Hermione/Dobby/Dobby/Dobby/Dobby/Dobby thing, because it was the only combination nobody's ever tried. (Time-Turners. Multiplied via time-turner-i-ness.) They don't let me go near fanfic anymore.

#47 ::: Evan ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 11:37 AM:

I absolutely love the first idea. To be titled The Man Who Was Friday, obviously.

#48 ::: Serge Broom ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 11:43 AM:

Hitchcock's adaptation of Shakespeare's "The Man Who Knew Too Much Ado About Nothing"...

#49 ::: Mishalak ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 11:46 AM:

Abi @ #16

I actually have a warm fuzzy spot for 2010, specifically this exchange.

Hal: Ignition in ninety seconds. If there is danger here, and I use up all the fuel in the escape, what will happen to the Discovery?
Chandra: It will be destroyed.
Hal: And if I don't proceed with the launch?
Chandra: Then the Leonov and everybody in it could be destroyed.
...
Hal: I understand now, Dr Chandra.
Chandra: Do you want me to stay with you?
Hal: No. It is better for the mission if you leave. One minute to ignition. Thank you for telling me the truth.
Chandra: You deserve it.
Hal: Fifty seconds. Dr Chandra?
Chandra: Yes?
Hal: Will I dream?
Chandra. I don't know.
Hal: Forty seconds...Thirty seconds.
Chandra: Thank you, Hal.
Hal: Goodbye, Dr Chandra...Twenty seconds.
Floyd: Chandra, get the hell out of there.
Hal: Ten...nine...eight...seven...six...five...four...three...two...one...ignition...full thrust.

#50 ::: DaveMB ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 11:53 AM:

My friend Johnny Pez wrote a Tolkien/Chandler pastiche called Deuce Baggins, Private Eye.

#51 ::: Merav ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 12:14 PM:

Xopher @5

The Wrinkle in the Timey-Wimey Stuff one tempts me the most.

And of course, Dr. Whatsit does wear all those scarves.

Anne @41

I have, for some years, wanted to draw/write The Bug Butter Battle Book.

My mind immediately appended 'of Traal' to your title.

#52 ::: Steve C ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 12:48 PM:

Serge Broom @ 48 -

The Bester/Hitchcock/Shakespeare collaboration:

The Demolished Man Who Knew Too Much Ado About Nothing

#53 ::: Steve Smith ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 01:05 PM:

#50 ::: DaveMB
You mean like this? (Link goes to the Humphrey Bogart/Sidney Greenstreet version of Lord of the Rings. Keep all beverages at least half a meter from the keyboard. Cover all fishbowls.)

#54 ::: BSD ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 01:55 PM:

Sentai the Office: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Special_Duty_Combat_Unit_Shinesman

Temporally
Enduring,
Space
Solving,
Ethically
Rectifying
Abnormal
Chronology
Technology

Almost certainly been done:

Finn the Boy and His Magic Dog

Dr. Who: The Curse of the Black Adder (even fits with this season's timewimey mystery bit!)

The Doctor and the Doctor. The TARDIS has synchro-materialized with an anomalous chrono-signature and can't get free. The Doctor and Dr. Sam Beckett must team up across a half-century of time.

(NB re previous 2: While it is INTERNET LAW that Dr. Who can cross over with anything, I tried only to include ideas that might do something interesting.)

#55 ::: Lee ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 02:27 PM:

NUMB3RS x Eureka
Don: "Pack your bags, Charlie -- we're going on a road trip."
Charlie: "Why do you need me?"
Don: "It's an entire town full of geniuses, and I need a translator. Even the sheriff is incomprehensible."
I'd love to see a collaboration between Charlie and Henry!

Eureka x The Avengers -- Nathan Stark is Tony Stark's cousin, and they've always had a rivalry. And now something has happened at Global Dynamics that they can't handle alone...

#56 ::: Nightsky ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 03:34 PM:

BSD@54 and others: There exists an excellent Doctor Who/Blackadder II crossover called "Just Impediment", which details the Tenth Doctor's abortive courtship of Queenie. It is a delight. But I agree that a fic treating Blackadder as a timey-wimey phenomenom within the Who universe would be most interesting.

I would totally read:
* Aubrey-Maturin / Pirates of the Caribbean
* My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic / Watership Down
* David Brin's Uplift series / The Secret of NIMH
* Pushing Daisies / Torchwood: Miracle Day
* Ned is a Cortexiphan child, in Fringe / Pushing Daisies
* The cast of Futurama performs a commedia dell'arte
* Harry Potter / Gordon Korman's Bruno & Boots series
* Link is Azor Ahai reborn, in A Song of Ice and Zelda
* Blackadder III & Mr Norrell

#57 ::: Sarah ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 04:35 PM:

Some of the suggestions in the original post remind me worryingly of this: An Author's Notes Towards Possible Future Works.

#58 ::: Phil Lee ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 04:46 PM:

In honor of Roger Ebert's admiration of Hayao Miyazaki, I think it's long past time Ghibli animated "Beyond the Valley of the Wind"...though they may have to consult with Gainax to add the proper Russ Meyer flair to Nausicaa's character design. Later productions can include "Mononoke Topless", "Up! To the Castle in the Sky", and "Faster, Totoro! Kill! Kill!"

I'd also like to see a comedic remake of The Taking of Pelham One Two Three, except with the caper being pulled by John Dortmunder's team. The only reason this couldn't have been done back in 1974 was that the urge to go ahead and cast Walter Matthau as Dortmunder would have been overwhelming and then they'd need to find someone else to play the Transit Authority lieutenant.

While we're talking Walter Matthau, I'd also appreciate a prequel to Hopscotch where Miles Kendig is loaned to The Circus to work under a long suffering George Smiley. This could also work as a crossover with The Sandbaggers and an equally long suffering Neil Burnside.

Finally, the Justice League already has Superman, Batman, and Aquaman, but what it really needs is Flashman.

#59 ::: Xopher Halftongue ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 05:49 PM:

The Doctor mistakenly lands the TARDIS in the medicinal herb garden of a 12th-Century monastery. He helps the herbalist (who will later become Professor Yana) solve a murder mystery. "Doctor, why don't you tell him who he really is?" "Because that would change my past. Spoilers!"

Harry Potter and the Enchanted Bat'leth
Harry Potter and the Enchanted Duplicator!

I waited in vain for the episode of Stargate SG-1 where there's an unscheduled offworld activation. A little kid walks through, looking scared. O'Neill orders the troops to stand down, and sends in Mitchell to talk to the kid, who runs to Mitchell and hugs him: "Daddy!" The kid's name is D'Argo Sun-Crichton.

Nangleator 37: Don't denounce me to the Babylon Quintarians, but I've always felt that B5 was a thinly-veiled Tolkien...well, 'ripoff' is too strong a word...SF re-imagining? I mean, they even had RANGERS about when I stopped watching. And the White Star and stuff.

#60 ::: Andrew Plotkin ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 05:56 PM:

In the more obscure-corners of timey-wimey literature... there's got to be a Sapphire+Steel / Looper crossover. Silver is assigned, you see.

I tried to write this, but didn't get much into it.

#61 ::: Dan Lewis ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 06:27 PM:

Seen this one?

Harry Potter and the Natural 20 - a D&D wizard arrives at Hogwarts: "he was only 300 XP away from a new level, and with it, one step closer to the untold arcane power of 3rd-level spells."

I've been thinking with love about writing this:

Lavender "Encyclopedia" Brown, Witch Detective - 25 Knuts per day, no case too small.

#62 ::: Erik Nelson ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 06:30 PM:

Let's do the Time Lord again!

#63 ::: Fragano Ledgister ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 07:03 PM:

Carrie S #32: I hadn't thought that the Peter would be Wimsey (especially since I thought that the Dot was Sayers). However, I believe you are right.

It is a pity that Wimsey and Holmes could not be brought together.

#64 ::: Fragano Ledgister ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 07:05 PM:

Abi #36: I and I are glad to be of service to the I.

#65 ::: Fragano Ledgister ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 07:12 PM:

Has no one thought of an Avengers/Avengers mashup with both Tony Stark and John Steed?

#66 ::: Cassy B. ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 07:15 PM:

Fragano @65, when my friends started talking about an Avengers movie a few years ago I embarrassed myself by remarking that they'd already done one and it, from all reports, was terrible...

#67 ::: Teresa Nielsen Hayden ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 07:26 PM:

Dave H @31:

I reread the Chronicles of Thomas Covenant last month and ended up having a weird dream where Lord Foul the Despiser was being audited. I woke up with the line "Banes with a yield greater than three kilowoes must be licensed" in my head.
I love it. Epic fantasy needs forensic accounting. So far, all we have is a little bit of it in Dark Lord of Derkholm.

Oldster @35:

There had always been half-adders at Cold Comfort Farm, until Aunt Ada Lovelace used an OR-gate to combine their carry outputs.

"Squeee," she said faintly.

Incoherent @40: Thank you! I'd wondered whether anyone writing about Steve Rogers had engaged with the outsider sexual culture of the 1940s. The idea that an art student leading a not-very-sheltered life in NYC could have been unaware of it has been a non-starter for me.

I just took a quick look at the story. The first paragraph is solid infodump. The author's note warns that "If you aren't a history/anthropology geek, you will probably find it very boring."

Yum.

Nightsky @56: Brain explodes.

#68 ::: Allan Beatty ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 07:31 PM:

This is not normally my sort of thing, but I believe Mal Reynolds should and could meet Ben Cartwright.

#69 ::: Lila ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 07:38 PM:

Incoherent @ #40, wow. Thanks for the rec.

I particularly admire the portrayal of Howard Stark--sympathetic, believable, nuanced and painful.

#70 ::: Daniel Dern ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 08:06 PM:

A MAD GAME OF MEN'S THRONES

Each episode, another pair of characters swaps shows:
Ep1 - Don Draper (or maybe Pete Campbell) swaps with Tyrion Lannister
Ep2 - Joan Harris (the redhead) (or maybe Peggy Olson) for Daenerys Targaryen
Ep3 - Don Draper's daughter for Arya Stark
...

#71 ::: Patrick Nielsen Hayden ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 08:26 PM:

#70: In fact, while the observation isn't original to me, what we really want is Sally Draper and Arya Stark in the awesome spinoff show to trump all other awesome spinoff shows.

#72 ::: Patrick Nielsen Hayden ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 08:27 PM:

#70: In fact, while the observation isn't original to me, what we really want is Sally Draper and Arya Stark in the awesome spinoff show to trump all other awesome spinoff shows.

#73 ::: Teresa Nielsen Hayden ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 08:29 PM:

Lila @69: Yeah: "When Steve met Howard Stark, it was annoyance at first sight."

#74 ::: Steve C. ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 08:54 PM:

When they find out how old Wolverine is, there's nothing left to do but Logan's Run.

#75 ::: Wyman Cooke ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 09:08 PM:

I could see Holmes going to Oxford when Wimsey was there, holding forth on the quad.

#76 ::: Chris ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 09:30 PM:

George Lucas's Galactic Empire meets Doc Smith's Galactic Patrol.

#77 ::: Lila ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 09:37 PM:

And re #40, for fans of Bucky: lanyon has finally finished Medvezhonok

#78 ::: Serge Broom ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 10:19 PM:

"Gone with the Wind in the Willows"

#79 ::: Serge Broom ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 10:19 PM:

"Flashman" and "Flash Gordon"...

#80 ::: Serge Broom ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 10:24 PM:

Spielberg's remake of David Lean's "Saving Private Ryan's Daughter"

#81 ::: Kevin Reid ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 10:41 PM:

It’s terribly, terribly disappointing that this is not a recommendation thread.

Because then these stories would exist, and I could read them. (I recently discovered I really like a good crossover.)

#82 ::: Nonyme ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 11:02 PM:

Debra @ 27 -- *blinks innocently*

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I'd like to see a classic Star Trek/Vorkosigan crossover, just because the thought of Miles dancing mental circles around the crew of the Enterprise and leaving a trail of total havoc (and snarky mental comments) in his wake makes me giggle. I couldn't write Miles if my life depended on it, however, so it's not a story I personally would ever tackle.

#83 ::: Mishalak ::: (view all by) ::: May 01, 2013, 11:38 PM:

Oh, yes. That could work out well. Now if I just had more time.

"I say, Blackadder, have you heard about this Norell person?"

"I cannot say that I have, Sir."

"He seems to be really quite the thing; he's performed actual magic right here in London. Just think, a return to the age of The Raven King."

"Ah, quite, Sir. Rather like the time Vinculus told your fortune and stole three guineas out of your purse after he had you cover your eyes?"

#84 ::: DaveMB ::: (view all by) ::: May 02, 2013, 12:05 AM:

Steve Smith @53: That's brilliant, thanks!

re Laurie R. King: Holmes and Mary (Sue?) Russell have also met the eponymous Kim and a young Dashiell Hammett among others. I though The Pirate King was a bit mailed in, perhaps because Russell (if not King) doesn't like G&S as much as I do...

#85 ::: Aquila1nz ::: (view all by) ::: May 02, 2013, 12:41 AM:

Kevin Reid @81:

It’s terribly, terribly disappointing that this is not a recommendation thread. Because then these stories would exist, and I could read them.

Whereas I'm presuming that this thread is rule 34ing all these wonderful ideas, and therefore they all exist now and I just have to find them.

#86 ::: Megpie71 ::: (view all by) ::: May 02, 2013, 01:38 AM:

I'm currently working on this one, but just in case there's any other lunatics out there who'd like to tackle it...

Reed Richards has invented a portal generator (Because He Could). Steve Rogers has been sent on vacation (for the sake of his mental health). The Avengers need Steve back from wherever-the-heck to New York to deal with the latest Skrull invasion. Reed operates the portal, searching for a blond, blue-eyed super-soldier in his mid-twenties, riding a motorcycle and carrying archaic weaponry...

... and Cloud Strife lands in the middle of a pitched battle in New York city.

(Final Fantasy 7 crossed over with the Avengers)

#87 ::: oliviacw ::: (view all by) ::: May 02, 2013, 02:14 AM:

Lord of the Rings on Ringworld
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galactic Patrol

And since folks have been talking about My Little Pony, how about My Little Pony of Pern?

#88 ::: Paul A. ::: (view all by) ::: May 02, 2013, 02:24 AM:

a fic treating Blackadder as a timey-wimey phenomenom within the Who universe

This one exists.

#89 ::: GlendaP ::: (view all by) ::: May 02, 2013, 03:03 AM:

Avram @0: Mashup of Dragnet and The Man Who Was Thursday Surely The Addams Family belongs in there, too.

#90 ::: Ingvar M ::: (view all by) ::: May 02, 2013, 08:29 AM:

Blues Brothers, crossed with Lords of the Rings.

Emil Vorkosigan and the Pig.

Ronja of Mars.

#91 ::: Lis Riba ::: (view all by) ::: May 02, 2013, 09:13 AM:

Expanding upon Hamlet, IV 6:

Ere we were two days old at sea, a pirate of
very warlike appointment gave us chase. Finding ourselves too
slow of sail, we put on a compelled valour, and in the grapple I
boarded them. On the instant they got clear of our ship; so I
alone became their prisoner. They have dealt with me like thieves
of mercy; but they knew what they did: I am to do a good turn for
them.

"Good night, sweet prince. I'll most likely kill you in the morning."

#92 ::: Lis Riba ::: (view all by) ::: May 02, 2013, 09:16 AM:

And that reminded me of a practically perfect video mashup I saw recently: Game of Thrones with the Princess Bride framing story:

Spoilers for Season 1 of GoT

#93 ::: Phil Lee ::: (view all by) ::: May 02, 2013, 09:45 AM:

Ingvar M @90:

Sam and Frodo are riding through a residential neighborhood on the edge of Cirith Gorgor on the new Shiremobile: a decomissioned Nazgul mount that Sam picked up at a Mount Doom City Police auction. After running a red light a dark, hooded form on a similar horse pulls up behind them and waves for the two to pull over.

Sam: Shit.
Frodo: What?
Sam: Riders.
Frodo: No.
Sam: Yep.
Frodo: Shit.

The Nazgul pulls them over and asks for Sam's license and registration, which he reluctantly hands over.

Sam: I bet those cops have got SAURONs.
Frodo: SAURONS?
Sam: Sauron Army Uruk-hai, Riders, Orcs, and Nazgul System.

The Nazgul notes the astonishing number of Ring War violations on Sam's record and the instructions "Arrest Hobbit, Impound Horse". The former great lord of Numenor returns to the Shiremobile and asks Sam to step out of the car. Sam and Frodo look meaningfully at each other, and then Sam kicks the spurs in, leading the Nazgul cops on a merry chase.

Frodo: First you trade the Cadillac for a string of sausages, then you lie to me about the Fellowship, and now you're gonna put me right back in the Tower of Cirith Ungol.
Sam: They're not going to catch us. We're on a mission from Gandalf.

The Shiremobile narrowly avoids being divebombed by a Nazgul on the back of a 1978 Ford LTD Winged Creature.

Sam: We'll be alright if I can just make it back into Gondor.

The two hobbits tear through the Black Gate of Mordor, the Nazgul in hot pursuit.

Frodo: This don't look like no Gondor to me, pal!

The Shiremobile does donuts around the plain of Udûn, narrowly weaving around orc encampments as the Nazgul close in.

Frodo: You got us into Mordor, pal, you get us out of it!
Sam: You want out of Mordor? Okay.

Sam punches it and crashes right through the entrance to Barad-dûr. Cue Tom Bombadil performing "I Can't Turn You Loose" as mayhem ensues.

#94 ::: Charlie Stross ::: (view all by) ::: May 02, 2013, 10:09 AM:

Is now the time to remind people of the impending publication of my four-book series with Harlequin Romance, Unicorn School: The Sparkling?

(Which reminds me: I really must finish the Laundry Files/Cold Comfort Farm mashup ...)

#95 ::: paul ::: (view all by) ::: May 02, 2013, 10:49 AM:

So isn't the giant robot/ The Office thing essentially just a re-environed Red Dwarf with better production values?

And now we have to figure out how Miles is actually Q's son/father/uncle/cousin.

#96 ::: TChem ::: (view all by) ::: May 02, 2013, 11:24 AM:

#54 BSD: I've watched Shinesmen with its very silly English dub, and it literally never occurred to me that it was also funny in Japanese until I read your link.

#97 ::: Serge Broom ::: (view all by) ::: May 02, 2013, 12:07 PM:

Steinbeck's "The Grapes of Wrath of Khan"

#98 ::: Serge Broom ::: (view all by) ::: May 02, 2013, 12:07 PM:

Steinbeck's "The Grapes of Wrath of Khan"

#99 ::: Jenny Islander ::: (view all by) ::: May 02, 2013, 12:08 PM:

Re Mary Russell, I didn't mind her characterization as brilliant, bold, etc., etc., because she was also naive about some things, occasionally incautious, stubborn, struggling with PTSD, etc. But I bounced hard off of the characterization of Dr. Watson as some kind of unworldly absent-minded saint!

Jill Paton Walsh's Wimsey sequels start out pretty good, but descend into bathos as the series goes on. I couldn't even read the last one.

Back on topic: Thanks for the recommend for "More Man Than You." There's supposed to be a sequel coming out as well.

#100 ::: Bruce E. Durocher II ::: (view all by) ::: May 02, 2013, 12:12 PM:

For years I've wanted to see a Nero Wolfe pastiche where Lord Peter shows up (even though I've only read the short stories with Lord Peter), if for no other reason then the inevitable moment when Nero gets tired of Peter's silly ass cover persona and verbally flenses him. I also think that egalitarian Archie would have an interesting take on Bunther, although my wife (who has read everything involving Lord Peter that exists outside of the proposal by Stephen King to write one that the estate approved--and boy would I like to see that) thinks that Archie would accept Bunther as just another working stiff.

And in the category of ain't-never-going-to-be-done-because-it's-a-racial-mindfield, I'd like to see The Shadow, who in the books kept a relatively close eye on the Chinatowns in New York and San Francisco, and who beat more deathtraps than anyone else in print fiction, go up against death trap fetishist Fu Manchu while trying to keep high-energy racist asshole Sir Dennis Nayland Smith and clueless sidekick Dr. Petrie from shooting/clubbing/stabbing everyone of vaguely Asian descent. (The first Fu Manchu novel has a line about Hawaiians being Asian agents of Fu Manchu's machine. Uh, no.)

#101 ::: Bruce E. Durocher II ::: (view all by) ::: May 02, 2013, 12:23 PM:

Charlie Stross: (Which reminds me: I really must finish the Laundry Files/Cold Comfort Farm mashup ...)

Oh, good! Presumably we'll finally have the answer to what "something nasty in the woodshed" actually was.

#102 ::: Janni Lee Simner ::: (view all by) ::: May 02, 2013, 05:05 PM:

Now I want to turn Meg Murray's father into a time lord and it's All Your Fault.

#103 ::: Q. Pheevr ::: (view all by) ::: May 02, 2013, 05:33 PM:

Re #90 and #93: I hate Illinois Nazgûl.

(And I really hope I haven't inadvertently made this same minor comment three times, but I keep getting some kind of Infernal Server Error when I try to post....)

#104 ::: Tehanu ::: (view all by) ::: May 02, 2013, 10:26 PM:

Barbara Hambly wrote a Star Trek novel, Ishmael, which is a mashup of Original Trek and, of all things, the late '60s TV comedy "Here Come the Brides." I'm not sure but I think her inspiration was that Mark Lenard played one of the most important characters in "Brides." It's a terrific book -- it actually made a Trekkie out of me, and I didn't even know it was a mashup till years later.

#105 ::: Erik Nelson ::: (view all by) ::: May 02, 2013, 11:05 PM:

See some of my earlier posts for plot parallels between Lord of the Rings and Gravity's Rainbow. In the back of my mind I have a glimmer of an idea for Gollum / Slothrop slash.

#106 ::: Sandy B. ::: (view all by) ::: May 02, 2013, 11:16 PM:

James Earl Carter, Warlord of Mars ... no, that's not right. John Henry, Warlord of ... no.

"The Goblet was on fire and it wasn't my fault"? ...nnnno.

"We can"
HSSSSSH
"rebuild him..."
HSSSSH
"Faster. Stronger in the Force."

I'm going to quit while I'm behind.

#107 ::: Erik Nelson ::: (view all by) ::: May 02, 2013, 11:41 PM:

Does Bob the Builder take place in the same universe as But, Who Can Replace a Man?

Same theme of the machines squabbling until the human returns to lead them.

#108 ::: eric ::: (view all by) ::: May 03, 2013, 12:45 AM:

My oldest has wanted to know what would happen if Mary Poppins was Luke Skywalker's nanny.

He's also asked what would happen if Harry Potter & Co were to play socceer against Eragon and their magic. Tentative title: No Hands Allowed.


#109 ::: P J Evans ::: (view all by) ::: May 03, 2013, 01:01 AM:

104
There's a lot of cameo roles in there by people from other stories. For those of us who remember old TV shows (especially Westerns), it's even funnier.

#110 ::: Bruce Cohen ::: (view all by) ::: May 03, 2013, 09:24 AM:

I have half of a story written in the world of "CSI: Innsmouth" in which Lady Heather tries to find out who left the corpse of an Old One on the beach, and why the police are covering iit up.

Also: "The Epic of Gilgamesh" as written by Damon Runyon.

#111 ::: Bruce Cohen (Speaker to Managers) ::: (view all by) ::: May 03, 2013, 09:29 AM:

"The 500 Hats of Doctor Who"

#112 ::: Laura ::: (view all by) ::: May 03, 2013, 10:19 AM:

Bruce @110
And although it is not polite to mention what happens to any guy what steps out with Innini, it is even less polite what happens to them. And so it is best to mention it in hopes of preventing even further impoliteness. Even at the risk of cider in my ear.

#113 ::: Lori Coulson ::: (view all by) ::: May 03, 2013, 01:09 PM:

"I remember gaudy days when the year was Springing,
Tammuz, Gilgamesh and I, clinking cups and singing,
'Til Inneni sauntered by, scanty garments clinging
To her hips and things like that..."

#114 ::: Lila ::: (view all by) ::: May 03, 2013, 01:14 PM:

Lori Coulson: I see what you did there!

("East of Agamemnon lay a city he had sacked...")

#115 ::: Mishalak ::: (view all by) ::: May 03, 2013, 02:31 PM:

It occurs to me today that this YouTube video by Andrew Orton, who refuses to prove he exists, is pretty much crossover fanfic of the Doctor Who and Douglass Adams variety. If you are a fan of either you should give it a whirl as it is more useful than spending the next four minutes and twenty-seven seconds contemplating the meaningless of existence with your friend who has a brain the size of a planet.

#116 ::: Nightsky ::: (view all by) ::: May 03, 2013, 02:54 PM:

eric@108: Your oldest may be interested in the popular fan theory that Mary Poppins is in fact a Time Lady. Like the Doctor, she is a trickster figure come to save ordinary Londonians from otherworldly peril. Her bag, you may recall, is BIGGER ON THE INSIDE. Bert is obviously an ex-companion of hers (*), maybe a transplant from another time or place, which would be why his accent is wrong. Uncle Albert is a humanoid alien with a gravity neutralization device. And Mary Poppins can cross into other realities like the Doctor crossing dimensions. Finally, "practically perfect in every way." Doesn't that just have the ring of Time Lord arrogance?


* This also explains how he was able to tell that Mary had arrived: he recognized the distinctive sound of her TARDIS.

#117 ::: Erik Nelson ::: (view all by) ::: May 03, 2013, 06:43 PM:

Lori Coulson at 113; I don't recognize the things you are parodying, but they look familiar.

#118 ::: Tom Whitmore ::: (view all by) ::: May 04, 2013, 12:27 AM:

Lila and Lori @113/4 -- so there's an argument for calling John Myers Myers the father of all fanfic? And there's some claim in that to adding his other novels, which use historical settings with some ... interesting interpretations of characters. They're fun too, but much less obvious. (We could go back to Cabell with the idea, or John Erskine, but they're much less well known these days and they were a lot less obvious about it, sticking with single stories for the most part.)

#119 ::: Xopher Halftongue ::: (view all by) ::: May 04, 2013, 01:31 AM:

Nightsky, you know what Mary Poppins did after leaving the Banks family, right? She went to San Francisco, where she set up a faith healing business, specializing in curing bad breath. Her sign said "Fhcre Pnyvsbeavn Zlfgvp. Rkcreg: Unyvgbfvf."

#120 ::: Lori Coulson ::: (view all by) ::: May 04, 2013, 01:28 PM:

Eric Nelson @117: It's a filk. The poem is from John Myers Myers "Silverlock" -- Gordy Dickson set it to music, and Juanita Coulson has been known to perform it at filksings.

#121 ::: Lila ::: (view all by) ::: May 04, 2013, 01:42 PM:

Tom Whitmore @ #118, I think fanfic is at least as old as Dante (who had Vergil leading a tour of Hell), but I'd put John Myers Myers up for "granddaddy of the multifandom crossover".

Xopher: GROAN. The one I'd heard involved Gandhi and the effects of prolonged fasting in the desert: Fhcre sentvyr pnyybhfrq zlfgvp urkrq ol unyvgbfvf.

#122 ::: chocolate covered cotton ::: (view all by) ::: May 04, 2013, 07:01 PM:

@ #93 Phil Lee

"Illinois Nazgul? I hate Illinois Nazgul."

#123 ::: Lis Riba ::: (view all by) ::: May 04, 2013, 11:30 PM:

Nightsky@116 Makes perfect sense; it also explains why the British Olympic Committee thought Mary Poppins could defeat Voldemort?

Lila@121: Funny you mention Virgil in the history of fanfic, because I tend to think his Aeneid is one giant Homeric Gary Stu...

#124 ::: Lila ::: (view all by) ::: May 05, 2013, 08:09 AM:

Lis Riba @#123: yeah, it seems it's turtles all the way down.

#125 ::: Serge Broom ::: (view all by) ::: May 05, 2013, 08:46 AM:

Tehanu @ 104... I remember "Here Come the Brides". Did you remember that its male star, Robert Brown, had been in two episodes of "Star Trek", one of them "The Trouble with Tribbles"? Now *that* would have been quite a mashup.

#126 ::: Serge Broom ::: (view all by) ::: May 05, 2013, 08:50 AM:

(Continuing @ 125)

Oh, David Soul of "Starsky and Hutch" played one of the other main characters on "Here Come the Brides".

#127 ::: Lee ::: (view all by) ::: May 05, 2013, 10:59 AM:

Serge, #125/126: Not only that, but Mark Lenard (Sarek) played the primary antagonist.

Bobby Sherman had a pretty good run as a pop singer as the result of that show, and that was right around the time I started listening to the radio, but boy howdy I don't remember any of those songs except "Little Woman", which is pretty nasty to listen to now. "You've got to come into my world and leave your world behind"? EW.

Oh, and somebody finally put up the original opening credits with the lyrics on YouTube.

#128 ::: Serge Broom ::: (view all by) ::: May 05, 2013, 11:13 AM:

Lee @ 127... I seem to remember that Bruce Lee was in one episode... About the opening credits... Ah yes. By the way, the day before 2005's NASFiC, we were doing the tourist thing around Seattle with Jane Fancher and of course "Here Come the Brides" came up, at which Jane belted out the whole song for us. :-)

#129 ::: Blaise Pascal ::: (view all by) ::: May 05, 2013, 12:13 PM:

What about "The Delightful Doctor of Oz?"

#130 ::: elise ::: (view all by) ::: May 05, 2013, 07:47 PM:

Lee @55: Eureka x The Avengers -- Nathan Stark is Tony Stark's cousin, and they've always had a rivalry. And now something has happened at Global Dynamics that they can't handle alone...

Yes, please. And Nathan Stark being Tony Stark's cousin explains so much.

Xopher @59: Harry Potter and the Enchanted Duplicator *snrch*

Dan Lewis @61: The notion of "Lavender 'Encyclopedia' Brown" is completely charming.

Bruce Durocher @100: Archie may accept Bunter as just another working stiff. What I really want to know is how Fritz and Bunter get on. (I love what Juan refers to as "the complicated three-cornered marriage between Archie, Nero, and Fritz" in the absolutely splendid television series of Nero Wolfe. Bonus points for Kari Matchett, because anything with Kari Matchett gets bonus points.)

Teresa told me that all Grail fiction is fanfic about the Eucharist. That made me so happy.

Also, I still owe you a Deadwood/Torchwood crossover, Patrick.

#131 ::: elise has been gnomed ::: (view all by) ::: May 05, 2013, 07:47 PM:

That thing they do? They did it again. Like they do.

#132 ::: David DeLaney ::: (view all by) ::: May 05, 2013, 10:34 PM:

elise @130: That's not the only unsung pair of relatives in that universe. Rogers' Neighborhood...

--Dave, rereading scifigrl47's entire collection for the comments this time

#133 ::: Michael I ::: (view all by) ::: May 06, 2013, 08:07 AM:

Xopher@119, Lila@121

And after San Francisco, she moved to Colombia where she started an organization that seeks ultimate truth by meditating on Mandelbrot sets. As a fundraising measure the group started a flower export business eventually gaining much of the market share for exports of roses.

All of which led to the article "Fhcre Pnyv Senpgny Zlfgvp Rkcbegf Nyy Gur Ebfrf."

#134 ::: Jenny Islander ::: (view all by) ::: May 06, 2013, 06:27 PM:

For any X-Men fen out there, here's a plot bunny from a mirror universe: Immigrant-made-good Erik "Magneto" Lehnsherr is the founder and CEO of Talents Inc., the world's first and so far only mutants-for-hire operation. Anything from movie special effects to tricky rescue operations, he's got somebody on the payroll who can do it. His nemesis: the mysterious backer of the X-Men, a group of teenaged mutant terrorists. Magneto wants to reform the system and ensure equal rights for mutants. The X-Men want to bring the whole system down.

#135 ::: Jacque ::: (view all by) ::: May 06, 2013, 06:50 PM:

Serge Broom @125: Robert Brown, had been in two episodes of "Star Trek", one of them "The Trouble with Tribbles"?

No, only one: "The Alternative Factor." The Klingon in "Tribbles" who looks like him, um, isn't.

@126: David Soul of "Starsky and Hutch" played one of the other main characters on "Here Come the Brides".

...and was also in an episode of Trek.

#136 ::: Allan Beatty ::: (view all by) ::: May 06, 2013, 07:07 PM:

The BF and I have been watching The Streets of San Francisco, and the screenplay for one episode was credited to D. C. Fontana. (A few months later she did another one with her first name spelled out.) So of course I thought of Star Trek crossovers—after all, they've been to San Francisco before; this would just be a few decades earlier.

#137 ::: Lee ::: (view all by) ::: May 06, 2013, 08:33 PM:

David D., #132: Wow. That's now head-canon for me.

Jenny, #134: I'd read that! Hell, I'd pay to read that if Marvel did it. But I know I don't have the talent to write it. For one thing, what you've described isn't a story, it's a background; you'd need a story to hang on it, rather than the story being about that, and then you'd have to do a lot of incluing to let the readers figure out the differences between this universe and the regular X-Men 'verse.

Of course, one obvious story to hang on it is the venerable Trek mirror-universe gimmick -- one or more of Our Guys gets transplanted over there and has to figure out (1) what's going on and (2) how to get back. This could be helped by having Star Trek exist in the Xverse, so that the transportee(s) would have a mental frame of reference for "mirrror universe" already. Extra points if at least one of the transportee(s) is an adult version of one of the teenage terrorists.

... and I still don't have enough talent to write it.

#138 ::: Serge Broom ::: (view all by) ::: May 06, 2013, 09:07 PM:

Jacque @ 135... Not Robert Brown as a Klingon? I stand corrected. Soul in ST? Heheheh... Speaking of actors with unexpected relationships to ST... Cyd Charisse was the aunt of DS9's Nana Visitor, who played Kira, and DS9's Alexander Siddig is the nephew of Malcolm McDowell, who appeared in the ST/NextGen crossover movie. And... The Most Interesting Man in the World played a Red Shirt on ST-TOS, but he survived.

#139 ::: Ingvar M ::: (view all by) ::: May 07, 2013, 08:30 AM:

Phil Lee @ #90:

Aha, better than my (now comprehensively abandoned) attempt from 2003-or-so (honestly, I thought I'd lost them and was hoping someone would write a good replacement).

Recovered bits here

#140 ::: Krinn DNZ ::: (view all by) ::: May 07, 2013, 10:40 AM:

Lee @137: Actually that sounds to me like a thing tailor-made for the Marvel universe's longstanding "What If... ?" series, which gives readers much of that framework for free(ish). "What If... ?" was always one of my favorite little nooks of the Marvel universe anyhow because it was free to dump certain business-model-imposed narrative conventions and thus could deliver some actual consequences within its pages. Were I at the editorial helm there, I would include a directive that the "The Talented Mr. Lehnsherr" issue at least nudge in the direction of "can you really solve social ills with money?" to tweak certain capitalist noses.

#141 ::: Lee ::: (view all by) ::: May 08, 2013, 05:25 PM:

Here's a visual plot-bunny that someone might want to snag: Disney characters re-imagined as college students.

Also, what about a Hobbit-Pooh crossover? You can't do a full-cast matchup, but here are a few thoughts:
Pooh - Bilbo
Christopher Robin - Fili
Owl - Gandalf
Rabbit - Dori
Kanga - Bombur
Roo - Ori
Eeyore - Thorin
Tigger - Kili
Piglet - Balin

#142 ::: Michael I ::: (view all by) ::: May 09, 2013, 07:41 AM:

Buffy-Discworld crossover. Spike gets transported to the Discworld and shrunk to Nac Mac Feegle size. Moves in with the Chalk clan and hangs out with Wee Dangerous Spike.

#143 ::: Dave Bell ::: (view all by) ::: May 09, 2013, 07:52 AM:

Napoleon Solo and Ilya Kuryakin meet Modesty Blaise and Willie Garvin.

It doesn't have to be in London

#144 ::: Lori Coulson ::: (view all by) ::: May 09, 2013, 11:42 AM:

David Bell @143:

Hmm, Modesty and Willie were the only ones that didn't show up in "The Rainbow Affair."

But I would definitely read that crossover!

#145 ::: Michael Roberts ::: (view all by) ::: May 09, 2013, 08:06 PM:

So a while back I was innocently writing some fiction based on an alternative universe a la James Hogan's ... I can't remember the title ... and it occurred to me that logically, the science fiction would be subtly different between fairly close worlds. Which naturally led to the question: what if Ringworld had been written by Robert Heinlein? See, Louis Wu is a lieutenant on a spacecruiser out of Luna when the calculator makes a mistake and they crash the ship on an immense ring-shaped artifact. Captain Brown is killed in the crash, but his daughter Teela is along. That takes care of a third of the Motley Crew, but how Heinlein'd get Speaker-to-Animals and Nessus in there is beyond me.

#146 ::: Tom Whitmore ::: (view all by) ::: May 09, 2013, 08:48 PM:

Lori Coulson @144 -- I think Modesty and Willie were there in one of the pass-by sequences, like Inspector Seagoon and Steed/Peel (who are slightly more visible). I'd have to re-read it to pull out exactly where.

But the idea of the Goon Show cast overlapping with Steed and Peel -- now there's a strange mix!

#147 ::: Xopher Halftongue ::: (view all by) ::: May 10, 2013, 02:01 AM:

Tam MacNeil and I were chatting on Twitter about this mess, and cooked up this idea between us: Morrigan O'Muse, most terrifying beat cop in 1880s New York, meets the madman in a blue box and Detective Francis Maguire. She manages to conceal the fact that she's actually the granddaughter of the Muse of Tragedy from Francis, though not from that other guy.

#148 ::: Dave Bell ::: (view all by) ::: May 10, 2013, 03:07 AM:

"Mrs. Peel, DON'T!"

"Steed! Get out of my bathroom. I am trying to wash my hair."

"That bottle of shampoo is live."

"Live?"

"Exploding."

#149 ::: Elliott Mason ::: (view all by) ::: May 10, 2013, 09:28 AM:

My Favorite Crackfics (some):

* Bluebird is a really wonderful Torchwood/Addams Family crossover, dark and nasty like the old cartoons while still actually making perfect (crackfic) sense in the Torchwood universe parts too.

* A marvelous series called Barrayarans and Time Travelers has the kind of inevitably-canon feeling of all the best crackfics. In the first chapter, Jack Harkness meets a young(ish) Aral Vorkosigan on Komarr and blows his mind. Among other things. Jack only asks one thing: If Aral ever sees a blue box where no such thing belongs, DO NOT GO INTO IT. And then, much later, a blue box with a madman and a redhead in it turns up in Vorbarr Sultana ...

* Strange and awesome things happen when you cross Milesverse with ... Chalion. Like Saint Miles dy Vorkosigan. I like it a lot because this author is one of the few I've found that writes Mark in ways that ring completely true to me.

* Equilibrium wonders what might happen if John Watson inadvertently contracted what we might call a "Flowers for Algernon" virus while at Baskerville.

* And, of course, The Case of the Unwelcome Owl becomes inevitable if you realize Sherlock is the Squib brother of Minister of Magic Mycroft Holmes. It makes SO MUCH SENSE!

A couple of non-crossovers worthy of note:

* I didn't think it possible, but a fanfic author has written a missing scene from Redshirts that completely works as a drop-in to that horribly meta, interleaved, interlaced, twisted, tesseractical work.

* A Charity Case is a brilliant caper/mystery plot on Barrayar, with Byerly Vorrutyer inimitably saving the day, while maintaining his foppish persona. Also a brilliant look into the unofficial ways the nobility really WORK, and through them, Barrayar's unofficial government and institutions.

#150 ::: Elliott Mason got gnomed ::: (view all by) ::: May 10, 2013, 09:34 AM:

Probably for lots of links to fanfic. Because that is for what we are doing.

#151 ::: Avram ::: (view all by) ::: May 12, 2013, 01:51 AM:

Elliott Mason @149: Redshirts […] that horribly meta, interleaved, interlaced, twisted, tesseractical work.

Did I get a defective copy of Redshirts? What I read was a fairly straightforward metafictive story. But you’re not the first person I’ve seen to have been impressed by this book’s supposed mind-bending complexity.

#152 ::: Serge Broom ::: (view all by) ::: May 12, 2013, 02:07 AM:

Are Kim Newman's Diogenes Club stories considered Holmes fanfic?

#153 ::: Paul A. ::: (view all by) ::: May 12, 2013, 06:06 AM:

Serge Broom @ #152:

That's an interesting question. The Diogenes Club in Anno Dracula is a homage to the one in the movie The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes (which itself is not much like the one in Doyle's stories), but when you get into Newman's later series there's really not much left except the name and occasional throw-away references to Mycroft. Given the choice, I'd feel more confident arguing that it was Avengers fanfic. (The Steed-and-Peel Avengers, of course, not the Stark-and-Banner Avengers.)

#154 ::: Serge Broom ::: (view all by) ::: May 12, 2013, 09:38 AM:

Paul A @ 153... Steed and Peel, plus some King thrown in - meaning Jason, not Tara, but this makes one wonder if those two are related.

#155 ::: janetl ::: (view all by) ::: May 12, 2013, 10:46 AM:

Avram @ 151: I don't know that I'd say Redshirts was mind-bendingly complex, but I thought the twisty layers of meta kept coming in a delicious way.

#156 ::: Paul A. ::: (view all by) ::: May 12, 2013, 12:30 PM:

For those looking for other places to stock up on (or unload) fanfic ideas, a friend of mine has launched an informal fanworks exchange for "Obscure & British" fandoms.

Torchwood, Sherlock, Middle-Earth, Harry Potter, and Downton Abbey are on the not-obscure-enough list, but Douglas Adams, King Arthur, The Avengers, The Bill, Blackadder, Bob the Builder, Cadfael, Campion, Agatha Christie, Susanna Clark, Cold Comfort Farm, Flashman, The Goon Show, The Laundry Files, John le Carré, Mary Poppins, Modesty Blaise, Patrick O'Brian, Terry Pratchett, The Sandbaggers, Sapphire and Steel, Dorothy L. Sayers, William Shakespeare, Josephine Tey, and The Wind in the Willows are all fair game.

("Obscure" is a word which here means "difficult to find fanfic for", by the way, hence the presence of the illustrious Mr Shakespeare in the latter list.)

Plus there's a rule that crossovers can include fandoms that are neither British nor obscure, as long as they're not the majority, which puts things like the Campion/Downton Abbey and O'Brian/Pirates crossovers back in play...

#157 ::: Jacque ::: (view all by) ::: May 13, 2013, 04:07 PM:

Elliott Mason @150: Because that is for what we are doing.

I believe the correct syntax is: "Because for that is what we are doing."

:-)

#158 ::: John C. Bunnell ::: (view all by) ::: May 13, 2013, 07:57 PM:

#141: I can't give you Hobbit/Pooh, but this is a bit of Pooh that breaks the brain in a similar way....

#159 ::: Bill Stewart ::: (view all by) ::: May 14, 2013, 06:58 PM:

#158 I have one of Nancy's buttons saying "'Oh, bother!', said the Borg, 'We've assimilated Pooh.'"

#160 ::: Dean ::: (view all by) ::: June 03, 2013, 12:02 AM:

The Three Stigmata of a Stranger in a Strange Land.

Stars in My Pocket Like Grains of UBIK

Clans of the Neveryonaen Moons

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