The most recent 20 comments posted to Making Light by Syona Luciuna:

Thought I'd point out that Baylis Products. [Trevor Baylis, inventor of the wind-up radio] make a MP3 media player. A wind-up media player, that can also charge phones etc, has a built in torch and am/fm band radio [for emergency broadcasts], and takes SD cards [upon which one can store all manner of information & documents]

It can be found at:
http://www.ethicalsuperstore.com/products/trevor-baylis-brands/trevor-baylis-eco-media-player/

Figure that should save some room & weight in any go bag by combining several items.

So, let me see if I understand all this legalise correctly.

So if given an order that may or may not be illegal, but is certainly unethical and was previously illegal, an officer could refuse to carry it out. If they do refuse, then their commanders have many ways of punishing them.

Perhaps I'm being cynical, but I rather get the impression that many would be perfectly ok with torturing prisioners. Wether or not they be arabs or americans.

So, what it comes down to is this:
Bush has rewritten the Consitution to make his war crimes legal, and ultimatly although the military will bitch and moan about it and some will refus to participate, and folks back home will protest... there will be enough people that won't do anything that he'll get away with his coup by stealth.

So, in effect, he's won already.

So, in essance. Bush has forced the personnel of america's miitary to either choose between disobeying an illegal order, or obeying orders dictated by his policy and violating their oaths.

I would hope they choose the former over the latter.

I would also hope they decide enough is enough and return home and throw the bums out of the Whitehouse and into jail.

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