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Posted on entry WL Writers' Literary Agency / Strategic Book Group ::: July 25, 2007, 05:20 PM:
yes i my first work was my freshman yr 1992! And if you need to do the math i was 16 at graduation! Oh and mr mcdonald, how do we know who you are? I question you sir, as you have directly questioned my integrity. I am offering my own insight, only to have you decide its legitmacy. I am going to find a different form, one where input and thought are given there just due, instead of being judged! Have you ever read a book or just decided its outcome by the cover. If you want i can send you my material, and maybe you can shop it. can you help? Besides over what not to do? If not, well then your as useless as your words!
Posted on entry WL Writers' Literary Agency / Strategic Book Group ::: July 25, 2007, 05:15 PM:
My last post on the topic!
you know, I read all this and all I can say is that the WL Literary
Agency
has treated me fairly. They have NOT led me on with false promises.
They
told me how hard it is. They didn't make me use any of their companies
to
get my work edited, they just said that I had to get it edited and
improved.
I think that makes sense. And my work really needed it, whew!

I feel that I have a better chance with them than without them. Whether
they
sell my work or not we'll see. I read about their acquisition and I
think
they have changed and i've never seen the people or the stuff that you
guys
all write about. http://www.writersliterary.com/acquiretlag.html


They have shared with me their recent sales and I'm comfortable that
they
are selling work. I'm sorry to be such a newbie, but is there anyone
here
that has ever sold a book for someone else, not themselves? I think
that's
maybe the difference, you all seem so sure of yourselves, and I can see
that
some of you have had a book published, but is there anyone here that
has
sold a book for someone else? I would really value that person's
opinion...
so please reply if you've ever agented a book for someone else.

And, they told me up front to improve my work.. they didn't hide
anything.
I'm not a salesperson and I can't pretend to know anything about
agenting.
I want to write and to one day have my work sold and in print. I'm
glad
someone has taken the time to help me. I really am. I appreciate that
you
guys don't like them, but as far as I can tell unless someone from this
forum thinks they can sell my work for me, I'm sticking with them.
They
offer me hope, and a chance.. by the time I finish reading all this
from you
guys, I want to give up and slit my throat, you are all so negative..
yikes,
I wish you guys the best, but I'm getting back to my writing now, if I
spent
much more time on these forums frankly, I'd give up.
Posted on entry WL Writers' Literary Agency / Strategic Book Group ::: July 25, 2007, 04:18 PM:
I wish i could answer. I am not robert, or peter, or any of the people you have claimed. My name is jonathan, i work as a private investigator, and write about healing and sports on the side. My job is not what i want to be, so i have been pursuing the publication avenue. I have had little succes on my own, and wl has helped me. I cant state in any clearer than that. I am a 32 yr old ex english major, who loves writing thats it! I claim nothing more nothing less. I wish i was this robert guy, sounds like he must be loaded preying on people as you have mentioned.
Posted on entry WL Writers' Literary Agency / Strategic Book Group ::: July 25, 2007, 03:46 PM:
oh and namecalling will only endear you further into the respit of my heart. You seem to be coming from a dark oak-like cask that is full of presumption, and contempt. However you dont know me, only presume to, and by calling me a troll, you only want me hunt more! believe me i make a decent living finding out things about people. Some of you commentary on r fletcher, has caused me to search, and if you do, you will find published work presented by his company!! However if you want me to do it, than like my PI customers you will have to pay me for my research! Oh and keep the name calling coming, i love it!
Posted on entry WL Writers' Literary Agency / Strategic Book Group ::: July 25, 2007, 03:28 PM:
My publications have been limited to essay, and content verification in literature text books! Most of the work is annoymous, and was never paid, as i was a student, so my education was my pay! I know that may sound schillish, but it is still the truth. I believe in healing through literature. That is what i write about, and believe me or not, but wl has helped me make some very legitimate contacts. I understand skepticism, and i dont expect my words to gather support from the already jaded! I just think its only fair to tell both sides of the story. This is my point. I am not asking anyone to follow, i am just telling my story, which is by the way very real! I dont claim to know anything special, but i can tell when something is working for me or against me, and wl has been nothing but an ally, apaid ally, but an ally none the less!
Posted on entry WL Writers' Literary Agency / Strategic Book Group ::: July 25, 2007, 03:23 PM:
my question is this, how is a unguaranteed unsolicited work, that is shopped around for publication, that fails, the fault of the promoter?
Posted on entry Get Out of Jail Free ::: July 25, 2007, 03:06 PM:
Once you read locke, focus on his teachings thorugh jeffersonian democracy. "life liberty and property"-locke becomes the jeffersonian "life liberty and pursuit of happines".. Notice the difference in claim to land!!!! Locke felt every soul deserved a piece, and jefferson contered with every soul deserves peace(not property)!!! Once you finish that check out rousseau(i am a horrible speller) He has some great points as well.

In short you will find that our current prctice of governement directly contradicts the path defined in the constitution. Our government is a shadow of itself, unrecognisable to even its closest relative!
Posted on entry WL Writers' Literary Agency / Strategic Book Group ::: July 25, 2007, 02:54 PM:
Oh and i have never claimed to know anything, about literary agents!!! I had a agent represent me in the sporting venue. so thats all i know. that and this sight has actually helped me. I am sorry if it hurt others, but it has done good things for me, and my craft. I dont want to be beligerent, but i as you cannot be convinced, so i will leave it at that.

Oh and anyone who criticizes my writing by my posting(grammar, spelling ros and the like), feel free to do so. The world needs more english teachers, and maybe your lack of content has caused you to focus on the least important part of writing!! All you need to do is read a rough draft of a classic, any classic, and you will see my point! I wish all of you well, and mean no malicious intent. I just am deabting a point. One that i am not bound to by affiliation! This is what i do! Sorry if you disagree, but just look at the comments it has spawned. I think wlliteraryagent.com has been useful! If you dont, then fine!
Posted on entry WL Writers' Literary Agency / Strategic Book Group ::: July 25, 2007, 02:47 PM:
Ernest Hemingway "Those who play the education or erudicical card with regard to my punctuation or spelling, usually means that they lack the very posturing the claim to stand"
Posted on entry WL Writers' Literary Agency / Strategic Book Group ::: July 25, 2007, 02:28 PM:
Cant speak for billy, but i know im not!
And if any of you had agents outside of literature, you would see that it is not a scam!
Posted on entry WL Writers' Literary Agency / Strategic Book Group ::: July 25, 2007, 01:49 PM:
One last note, we attack what we feel has wronged us. I ask you to ask yourself if maybe, just maybe it is the pen that failed and not the agent. Can you blame Scott Boras, for Barry Bonds performance! No, as his agent his job is to shop him, not be responsible for his numbers. So why, blame this agency, i have noticed other agency you attack, and dont know anything about them. it seems you do, and maybe the rejection is what makes you smarmy with rethoric, and accusation. Take responsiblity for your own actions
Posted on entry WL Writers' Literary Agency / Strategic Book Group ::: July 25, 2007, 01:42 PM:
first of all i have several email accounts, and have to differentiate from mr fletcher, who by the way i dont know and probably never will. I have been published in 1992, 1994, and in 2003. I have been in college text books ever since my first submission to a professor. I have a degree with honors, and understand why some of you might think its a scam. Agents (book agents) charge on the back end, and sometimes hide charges such as editiing costs. This company sells what you have faith in. Whether it is drivel or captivating. If you are new to the field or removed, this agency can help. I have made several contacts, and even have found an editor. So mish mash my name all you want, the point of this forum is to give perspective. I have not been scammed!!! I have paid for a service, that did exactly what it said it would do. Oh and i dont know how i can have the same ip as someone, who ive never met! I think your mistaken. I have no contact with bob fletcher, dont work for him, infact his company works for me, and they continue to!
Posted on entry WL Writers' Literary Agency / Strategic Book Group ::: July 25, 2007, 10:21 AM:
Nothing sold yet, but i am intune with the process. I have paid for an education, that will lead to my publication. I am no dimwit, and not easily roused, so i am unscamable, and besides the have been nothing but upfront with me about fees. NOthing hidden, nothing i didnt agree too!

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