#171.
"The Western womens movement has gone places and morphed into things both monstrous and absurd. Much to the chagrin of its pioneers."
No, Sten, the western women's movement has been *characterized* as something monstrous by corporations that liked women with additional spending power, but hated their awakening to political ideas that would de-emphasize consumption, obsolescence and work conditions that had families chasing after dollars.
Or does the idea of a stay-at-home husband sound perfectly normalized to you?
Or a man simply doing the majority of the housework, after working all day?
Funny those are sitcom tropes, instead of supported ideas, after all these years.
#144 Sten
And this is precisely why feminists tolerating anti-feminists is bullshit:
"We tend to agree that the "traitor" label is actually more damaging to mainstream feminism than the various peripheral types its applied to because it smacks too much of rigidity and conformity when 21st century feminism stakes a lot on the idea of tollerance: for people, for ideas, for difference."
If one tolerates intolerance, that is allowing the destructive force to take over a constructive force. One has to be against something, or you'll fall for anything. Allowing anti-feminists to game feminism for their anti-female organization is giving power back to people who've always had it, and will let us get a bit of us if we're obedient again.
No, thank you.
And as for Obama creating a watershed on racial discussion -- where the heck did you see that?
He created a watershed on whether he himself could be elected President. Nothing more.
Obama was nominated to *end* racial discussion in America. He wouldn't have passed muster with the people who own this country, otherwise. He's like the head of a business union: He'll keep the peace with his constituents, and they won't ask for much. Everybody's happy, or didn't you notice how he squelched any contrary talk from Jesse Jackson, Sr, John Conyers, John Lewis? And the only thing they did is back the second-place candidate.
#144 Sten: In the happy fun place where all the goals of feminism have been achieved, sure, why not conservative women who use the term 'feminist' mostly to deride and distort its principles? Why not applaud black women who'd side with men who'd work with the KKK if it would get them power, and no one would get caught?
(Donna Brazile, I'm talking to you. Making friends with Karl Rove in order to learn how to win is not the same thing as gathering intelligence on people who barely consider you as human.)
But Sten, you surely can't forget that in most of this world women are no better than cattle, because men are no better than cattle, but at least they have a women to punish for their low status. Feminism was supposed to go worldwide; remember? But then it was criticized into irrelevance as classist and racist and ethnocentric, then it was turned into a luxury of marketing when women worldwide just needed help in getting food and shelter; then it was derided in America as part of that icky identity politics; then it was perverted into Girls Gone Wild, sororities where women mostly learn how to drink and screw, and into any number of entertainments where feminism is the straw man, the scapegoat and the stupid way of thinking involving politically incorrect hags.
So, no, I don't give one inch regarding the need for this country and this world to have more, not fewer, feminists in it. And women who use the tropes of feminism to pursue anti-feminist power in organizations that would be happy to see women unemployed and pregnant will never, ever be called feminists by me, and they will never be my idea of progress.
"The rise of The Palin (to coin a phrase) would seem to indicate that the Republicans are not an exclusive boys club anymore; and care more about policy than they do about gender, or race. Which was sorta the whole point of feminism to begin with: to remove gender from discussion and allow women to rise (or fall) based strictly on merit; just like the boys."
Um, bullshit.
There are always spokesmodels for unpopular causes that exist solely to defuse accusations of racism and sexism in their actual policies. Sec. Rice is an evil person because she championed the invasion of Iraq and most likely had a hand in destablizing Russia through Georgia; her ethnicity and gender distract her critics, because they think that if a person belongs to an underpowered group, he or she should identify with that group to support social justice efforts.
Do I have to skip over Godwin's Law to discuss the role of the kapos in concentration camps? Or trustees in prisons? They are seen as betrayers, even though they are in league with the government. Why do you think 'stop snitching' is a powerful meme in the hood, or its counterpart, 'the blue wall of silence' protects cops from whistleblowers from within? Because the idea of betrayal of the group is more powerful than the reason such betrayals take place.
Palin and Rice are traitors to the movements that gave them the reach to acquire power through their betrayals. Their bodies are pretty enough for us (or similar to those we know as belonging to good, justice-minded people) to overlook their evil.
#77: "Everyone but the rich and the deluded wants to destroy the city, and the protest situation simply make it a little more possible. Occasionally, of course, the police want to try things on the other side, who wouldn't? For the most part, however, I think this is a volunteer activity."
WTF?
I'm sorry that the commuters to our little burgs who want to get their kicks fomenting violence feel a bit cramped when the folks who *live in those cities* don't want to see them destroyed.
What sort of sociopaths do you hang out with?
Um, there was a leak of Noonan's comments?
So, who was fired?
If they were really upset about the open mike, someone would be fired by now. It's not as if MSNBC's so stable that such a firing would be unheard of. In fact, due to FOX's encouragement, MSNBC's being depicted as a basket of rabid weasels.
They wanted this disinfo out, to draw out those in the party who would be disloyal. Then start chopping heads.
The one thing the GOP is known for? Party unity.
This is how they get it.
Why does JJ Fozz #68, when engaged reasonably about the use of violence during demonstrations, suddenly decide to change the subject? To Palin pr0n?
hmmm....
the broader term "golliwog" for "wog" should be added.
"Sissy" should be considered if it's in the context of homophobic or misogynist talk pointed at effeminate men.
You got it. Better than my notes, in most cases, with concision and clarity the highlights. Excellent work.
*Hays*, of the Hays Code.
Ahem.
Signed,
Missing out on TCM's Summer Under the Stars, because of foolish real-life commitments, like that there Worldcon thingy.
I had bare feet and dreads, and sat on the bed, in full violation of my mother's standard that a lady never sits on a stranger's mattress.
I mopped some dinosaurs, too, if that's okay....
I've read the NecroNomNomNomicon
I was proud to have been in the room when that was uttered.
and lovely chocs, by the way.
and lovely grapes, grape tomatoes, and fancy chips.
and Nicole -- you live here?
They realize, of course, that they've made any creative work based on their reporting subject to a royalty to them?
Like DR ATOMIC, NIXON IN CHINA, Hell, anything Anna Deavere Smith or any other heads-up performance artist does will be silenced, due to the reporting artists use to portray zeitgeist.
THE LARAMIE PROJECT? The Civilians' work? Living Newspaper skits? I know that the New World Order paranoiacs worried about news being controlled at a single source, with journalists licensed by the state, but it's a caution when the news agencies want *us* to be licensed not only to read the news, but to repeat it in any fashion.
And a girl has to wonder why this is coming out now, in a lame-duck administration, right after yet another attempt to push through FISA-hijinks and net neutrality shenanigans. It's a mercy they didn't pull this crap in August, but it's convention season and vacation season....
I'm not reserving my public library copy until I finish my project, so others can get a shot at it. Ordered it, though, at my college library today.
Is it too soon to ask our libraries to order this?
Would giving them the ISBN be enough?
Little ditty
about Jack and Diane
Two American kids
growin up
in the heartland
This? Is awesome.
I was afraid of seeing the movie because I thought it would privilege stupidity, like so many monster movies do. Sir, you've actually made an argument for seeing it as something more than 9/11 pr0n -- to make it an instructive lesson on Getting the Hell Out of Dodge, for whatever reason.
Thank you.
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