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Posted on entry Chant Wars ::: February 06, 2004, 05:40 PM:
Tina,

You're welcome! As for coming to an appreciation of Noh the way you did, I understand completely because the "other" part of my appreciation of Tuvan throat singing comes from enjoying it as if it were a tone-painting/tone-poem/environment ala some of the electronic music that Hearts of Space programs (now about the ONLY programming I can enjoy from NPR these days...). Kind of the sound within the sound...the Art of Noise? (Oh, yes, I enjoy them, too, but I was actually being literal there!).
It's funny how for some people, music generates an amazing line of associations of other music...
Posted on entry Chant Wars ::: February 05, 2004, 01:22 PM:
Tina,

I think that "tonal expression" probably means something...but I think I understand the gist of what you're trying to descibe. And yes, Noh's tonality is VERY different (that's where I have a problem with, uhm, it's appreciation!), but Tuvan throat singing reminds more of the Karnatic tradition with it's micro-tonalities...best known examples amongst a certain, uhm, "age group" would be a certain defunct British musical group whose dabbling with the teachings of a certain Indian meditation instructor, which itself resulted in one group member studying with a very well-known pracitioner of the tradition. It was that group that Sir Paul was in before he was in Wings (and before "Sir" Paul!)...8-)...

A close look at the European music from between the 12th and 16th centuries will show you bits and pieces of Mozarabic music as it came both across the Iberian peninsula and in through Italy and on to the rest of Europe. There are some wonderful examples in both Spanish and Italian music of the period. Thomas Binkley and the Studio der Fruehen Musick did a two volume set (there were, apparently, to be more) of recordings (http://www.medieval.org/emfaq/cds/emi30107.htm ,http://www.medieval.org/emfaq/cds/emi30108.htm )of songs from the "Camino de Santiago", the songs of the pilgrimage to Santiago , which have some great examples of this influence. Lutenists are especially aware of this, "lute" = "al oud". Early depictions of lutentists show the playing technique being closely tied to that of the Arabic oud.

But enough of all that...it's only rock and roll. "O quam frigidus, hombre" indeed!
Posted on entry Chant Wars ::: February 04, 2004, 04:53 PM:
Teresa,
Thanks to Ms. Eisenberg for letting you know of this event and to you for passing it along. Here's hoping the day of your coronation approaches quickly.

As for jennie's "O quam frigidus, hombre!" well, round these here parts, that's got a rather "quam frigidus" ring to it over the more Latinistically-correct "homine." I think I'd rather use it, instead! Those who know I'm in Houston will understand...

I've listened to, and played, Mozarabic music, listened to Gregorian, Gallican, and Ambrosian chants...at this point, Tuvan throat-singing, while exotic, sounds perfectly normal. I'm still grappling with Noh, though...

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