I gotta try this: nincompοοp
Well shit, it won't let me post "pοοp" without jedi html. How fucking odd.
Terry: I think your perspective would do some good in this comments thread. I didn't comment there (with a link back to this thread) because I didn't know whether or not you'd be comfortable talking about such topics with that particular crowd.
Terry, thanks for the information; much appreciated.
Regarding wider dissemination of same, why are there no journalists asking "what does real, professional interrogation look like, how does it work, what evidence do we have that it works better than torture?"? Wouldn't that be an appropriate way to frame reports of the abuses in Abu Ghraib? O for a real free press!
Weepy myrmidon
I wish I'd thought of that phrase. Perhaps we could switch from "crocodile tears" to "myrmidon tears"?
Eric's right that I did the wrong thing in apologizing.
With respect, I disagree. You were -- you said this yourself -- a jerk, but I thought your apology full and frank and a perfect response to your own realisation that you'd crossed a line. It was the right thing to do. If you only made it to get the LGF assholes to stop and then took it down when they didn't, I'm rather disappointed (I don't think that's what you mean, but it's how your comment reads to me).
I don't think we (note, of course, that I'm saying "we" and it's not me with the porn and the death threats all over my site) should let Morlocks like Taylor and his lickspittles dictate our behaviour: neither apologise when in the right, nor refrain from apologising just for "strategic" purposes.
Indymedia no more represents "the left" than LGF represents "the right", and I think it somewhat counterproductive to go weighing up the excesses of the loons on both sides to see whose assholes are the assholiest.
Kos wasn't judged by the rules of a different league, he was attacked by people whose only rule is "win everything" because they saw an opportunity to make reasonable people step back. Some folks were snowed by this, and did things like take down their Kos ads. That's a shame, but it happens.
What's happened/ing to Kathryn Cramer, now, that's a whole different ballgame. I will be disappointed if there are no prosecutions dredged from that particular cesspool.
Having had the dreaded lurgy for the last two days myself, I am all sympathy.
Get well soonest.
I have the general impression that the beltway dems would like nothing better than to eradicate Dean from all memory
Sadly, this is my impression also. Dean and his campaign scared the crap out of broadcast media and the inner-beltway cabal by raising the dread spectre of real (that is, sincere) populism. That's why he got the backlash he got.
David W says: I don't think Dean's really made a significant difference in American politics at this point
I strongly disagree. Can you imagine teh intarweb playing a smaller role in subsequent campaigns, be they local, state or federal? I can't, and I think that's both an enormous change and a Good Thing.
Sometimes you just want to scream.
Is a free press the mouth of the people? A certain Ellison title comes to mind.
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