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Posted on entry Recent history. ::: April 19, 2004, 12:34 PM:
I didn't support the war. But...

...problem is I've not supported a number of wars in the past, and they didn't turn out nearly as badly in practical terms -- they sorta worked from .uk's point of view, we didn't actually officially lose any of them (I wasn't around for vietnam, and anyway .uk didn't take part in that one) -- as my doom laden apocalyptic imaginings led me to expect. At judging the likely outcome of wars, I frankly suck, and you'll likely be glad to know I've anticipated five of the last zero Great Depressions as well.

That this war is living up (down?) to my nightmares is actually rather a surprise given that track record. So I can see at least one place where 'liberal hawks' might have been come from, at least the ones who hadn't been hawks on previous wars.

If the evidence shows that your past judgement about the success or failure of some course of action is generally faulty -- with your errors consistantly falling on this side of expecting failure -- you might well decide the next time that course of action is proposed that you're going lean over backwards to think up reasons why the course of action will succeed. Trying to correct for your obvious proven bias you see. I think that is the sort of thing that people who think of themselves as or aspire to being rationalists, thinking rational thoughts, are likely to do.

Of course that's an argument about practicality and judgement of practicality. None of it speaks to the issue of whether a particular war is moral. This one looked and felt to me to be the most utterly unjust war it was seriously proposed .uk should take part in my life thus far.

Given that it seemed to me a success would be an even greater disaster _morally_ than a failure I was able squelch any concerns about my judgement of the practicalities. If however I *hadn't* made that moral judgement and had to convince myself to be against the war for purely practical reasons -- even given the proven bugfuck insanity and dishonesty of Bush and co -- then the 'lean over backwards, because I'm consistently wrong on this' position would have been very very tempting.

Whether I would have managed to hold to the same moral conviction if I had been exposed to the full might of the US news networks' propaganda, and had I been an American, making 9/11 a lot closer and more shocking, and having the weird cultural baggage of genuflection to the judgement US Presidents, and been subject a hell of a lot more peer pressure...

...well I'm not so sure *my* moral fibre would have been up to it. Tho' granted many Americans moral fibre was.

Hopefully I would value my irrationality enough that I wouldn't have felt the need override my gut, but frankly I just don't konw. *despairing shrug*

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