The most recent 20 comments posted to Electrolite by Allen Brill:

Well, Julia, one of the participants in the meeting of Mark's "preachers" happens to be my bishop. He spoke out against the war before and even including the day it was launched while a lot of our favorite Dem politicians were playing the loyal patriot. If you don't hear religious progressives speaking against war and injustice, it's because you're not listening. This is espcially ironic considering that Kleiman thinks that Christians who oppose war (like MLK, Jr., I suppose) should just shut up.

Thanks for posting about this, Patrick, but I'd have to say you could have been a little more forthright about Mark being off-base here. He's presumed out of some stereotype of mainline Christianity that those present had no access to expertise on issues relevant to peace or the dilemma posed by our involvement in Iraq. My own Presiding Bishop (yes, i'm one of the dreaded "preacher" class) is head of the Lutheran World Fellowship which works in 20+ countries on 4 continents. This is not a "hand 'em a Bible" approach but instead providing healthcare, building schools, and being advocates for justice. I don't think Mark bothered to check out why Annan would bother to meet with these "preachers" before he reacted.

And while it surprises me deeply and sadly to hear this from Mark, it is not the first time some in the progressive blogosphere have assumed that Rev. = idiot.

I needed a good laugh after what the Pittsburgh papers had on the role that Howard Ahmanson is playing in promoting schism.

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