L. G. Booth, anyone who thought there was the least chance of Christians getting rounded up during the Clinton administration is so far sunk in fantasy that I'm not sure what I'd say to them.
Precisely, and I wasn't claiming it was sensible. What I was trying to say was that it is easy to get carried away in the heat of the moment, and time provides balance. I certainly was not trying to be insulting.
Like The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, it's something no one's ever been regretfully and unwillingly forced to accept on the strength of the evidence.
With all due respect, who is being insulting now? To bring up the Protocols when I was giving reasons for disagreement in opinions is a hair off of triggering Godwin's Law.
And please, none of that "designated whipping girl" business. We argue here, we discuss; but no one's a designated whipping anything.
Then I am afraid that we have a different definition of 'argue' and 'discuss'. When I argue, I present facts and opinions, not call names. When I posted, I was rapidly called delusional, self-interested, racist, and accused of lying about my religion. And those were just the comments aimed directly at me, and don't include the assumptions about all Bush voters. You will forgive me if I decided that my opinion was not welcome here.
JeanOG, m'dear, no need to bother Hendak. How about rousting Bernard for a round of drinks instead?
Let us mourn before you start the "pull yourself up by the bootstraps, already" routine. Please?
No bootstraps were being invoked, just an attempt to calm the panic. Eight years ago I went through the same reaction ("I don't believe this!? How could he be re-elected? Can't people see????") and the country survived, and I survived with it.
And with that, ladies and gentlemen, I retire. As I said, I meant to sound a note of calm, not become a designated whipping girl for others to take their frustration out on. We can debate and argue, but only the future will show if yesterday was a good or bad thing for this country. Adieu.
Hal, I really don't see what my religious beliefs have to do with anything you complained about. I have a church that I regularly attend, so I am not 'playing a Christian on the internet.' I do not see why you feel the need to be insulting.
You are right, the election was not a game, and I did not intend to imply that it was one. I was trying to point out that no matter who wins, the losing side will be disappointed and upset, and that it will pass. I remember my husband foaming at the mouth when Clinton was re-elected, and I said the same thing to him... "This, too, shall pass."
And I would like to point out that many Bush voters feared that "some seriously bad things" would result from Kerry winning. Do you truly think that half of the U.S. went into the voting booth and said, "Hmm, wonderful things if Kerry is elected, terrible things if it's Bush... what the heck, I'll go with Bush!"?
The election was not a game. There was a lot riding on it, on many levels. But it is silly to re-hash the campaign slogans at this point. If you see things happening that you disagree with, speak out, become involved. That is what makes our country great. Heck, complaining about the government is our *real* national pastime. If they tried to jail people for that, they wouldn't have anyone left to pay for the prison guards!
Jonquil, I have no desire to get into a big argument over assorted points. I will only say, documented by who? I have seen reports of the insurgents trying to use nerve and mustard gas shells as bombs against our troops. I have read reports that indicate that there is a high probability that the majority of Saddam's WMDs were smuggled into Syria in the time before our troops moved in. I can point out that we found entire fighter planes buried in the desert by accident, so how hard would it be to miss spider holes containing toxins? I can turn to my own *memory* to recall that everyone, including the U.N., believed that Saddam had them before the war. It is easy to use hindsight to condemn someone. Therefore, I do not have to be intellectually dishonest to hold a different opinion, I simply have to access different sources that are willing to admit that the Democratic party line may not be the entire truth.
As I said, I did not come here to argue points, simply to say that doomsday is not here. America is still America. Clinton didn't throw me in a camp, and I sincerely doubt that anyone here has anything to worry about.
(And Darkrose, my friend, considering where you live, I really don't think you are likely to run into roving gangs of racist homophobes. They would have to be bussed in.)
I think a lot of people need to calm down. I survived eight years of Clinton, with some wailing that any day they expected the black helicopters to start rounding up Christians and dumping us in camps. I didn't believe the conspiracy people on the right, and you shouldn't buy into the left's equivalent. Is it so hard to believe that educated, intelligent people can reach a different conclusion than you? That what one side calls facts, the other calls distortion and bias? (And that goes both ways.) For every person here shaking their heads in disbelief, there is another on the other side sighing in relief that they have been spared the nightmare scenarios they saw in a Kerry presidency. Simply relax and realize that no president has been elected by 100% of the vote. Someone is always disappointed, and this time it is your turn.
*sigh*
Mr. Rice, do you want to be published because you love writing and want to get your stories out where people can read them, or are you looking for a get-rich-quick plan? Because if you are only after the money, you are going about it in the wrong way. I suggest lottery tickets.
Mr. Rice, it might surprise you to learn that pretty much every published writer has received rejections. In fact, having a manuscript accepted on the first try, especially without a literary agent, is practically a miracle.
Writing is hard work, and getting published is even harder. You have to remember, though, that many things in life are hard, and if being published is truly important to you, you will work at it. If at first you don't succeed, etc., etc.
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