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Frederick Tilney

Male Abt 1380 - 1412  (~ 26 years)


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Frederick Tilney was born about 1380 in of Boston, Lincolnshire, England (son of Philip Tilney and Grace Roos); died between 1406 and 1412.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Bef May 1421

    Frederick married Margaret Rochford before 29 Sep 1394. Margaret (daughter of John Rochford, Mayor of Boston, Lincolnshire and Alice) was born about 1380; died after 10 Feb 1443. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Philip Tilney was born about 1400; died on 31 Oct 1453; was buried in Lincoln Cathedral, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Philip Tilney was born between 1345 and 1355 in of Boston, Lincolnshire, England (son of Frederick Tilney and Margery); died between 4 Apr 1394 and Feb 1398.

    Notes:

    Sheriff of Cambridgeshire and Huntingdonshire, 1 Nov 1383. Sheriff of Lincolnshire 18 Nov 1386. Knight of the shire for Lincolnshire 1385, 1388, and 1390. Steward to Bishop Fordham of Ely.

    Alderman of the guild of Corpus Christi in Boston, 1387 and 1388. License to form the fraternity of St. Mary in Boston, together with Sir William de Spaigne, Sep 1392.

    Philip married Grace Roos between 1378 and 1380. Grace (daughter of John Roos) died after 1414. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Grace Roos (daughter of John Roos); died after 1414.
    Children:
    1. 1. Frederick Tilney was born about 1380 in of Boston, Lincolnshire, England; died between 1406 and 1412.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Frederick Tilney was born between 1320 and 1330 in of Boston, Lincolnshire, England; died after 1378.

    Notes:

    Entertainingly, Pishey Thompson's 1820/1856 history of Boston, Lincolnshire traces this Frederick Tilney's ancestry back to a Norman great-great-great grandfather at the time of Edward the Confessor named...wait for it...Frodo. More believable is the research of SGM regular John Watson reproduced below.

    John Watson (citation details below):

    His forebears probably originated in the village of Tilney, Norfolk. He may have been the son of a John de Tilney who occurs in the subsidy rolls for Boston in 1333 (Thompson, 374). In 1342, a John Tilney is mentioned in the Close Rolls as a collector of wool in Lincoln (CCR, Ed. 3, vi, 537), some of those in the same record were merchants of Boston. Frederick de Tilney of Boston, merchant, was a member of the Corpus Christi Guild of Boston in 1349, (Thompson, 374) which I think would place his birth date some time between 1320 and 1330. The first official record I can find of him is in January 1359, when William de Spayne and Frederick de Tylneye were elected as collectors of customs in the town and port of Boston (CPR, Ed. 3, xi, 320). In July 1360 they delivered 240 pounds into the exchequer (CCR, Ed. 3, xi, 45) and in August 1360 they were requested to purvey 4,000 stokfissh, called 'winterfissh' to Southampton for the royal household (CPR, Ed. 3, xi, 453). In February 1363, Frederick was appointed collector of customs in Boston and places along the coast between Grimsby, Lincolnshire and Blakeney, Nofolk (CFR, vii, 252). In 1369, the staple of Lincoln was transferred to Boston and Frederic de Tilney was the first mayor of the staple (VCH Lincs, ii, 320). In October 1372 Frederick de Tylneye and William de Spaigne were again appointed as collectors of customs and duties on wool, hides and cloth in the ports near Boston (CFR, viii, 187).

    Between November 1363 and December 1377 Frederick served on several commissions of wallis and fossatis, commissions of the peace and a commission of oyer and terminer in Lincolnshire usually in the company of William de Spaigne [CPR]. From September 1372 to May 1378, Frederick Tilney appears in various records of property transactions in Boston and the manor of Thetford in Norfolk. In June 1376 Frederick de Tilney of Boston appointed his son Philip de Tilney to deliver seisin of the manor of Thetford to trustees (DD/4P/4/12). In November 1377 he was appointed deputy butler in Boston (CPR, Ric. 2, i, 67). The last record I can find of him is in 1378 and I assume that he died some time shortly afterwards. Despite numerous references in secondary works calling him Sir Frederick Tilney I have been unable to find any contemporary record where he is called a knight.

    References:
    Calendars of Patent Rolls, Close Rolls, Fine Rolls, Papal Registers,
    etc.
    Pishey Thompson, History and Antiquities of Boston (1856)

    Frederick married Margery. Margery died before 1415. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Margery died before 1415.

    Notes:

    Walter Rye (citation details below) calls her "d. of Sir Walter Lyne".

    Children:
    1. Alice Tilney died after 1431.
    2. 2. Philip Tilney was born between 1345 and 1355 in of Boston, Lincolnshire, England; died between 4 Apr 1394 and Feb 1398.

  3. 6.  John Roos was born in in of Ringborough in Aldbrough, Yorkshire, England.
    Children:
    1. 3. Grace Roos died after 1414.