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Ellen of Wales

Female - Bef 1253


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Ellen of Wales (daughter of Llywelyn Fawr ap Iorwerth and Joan of England); died before 24 Oct 1253.

    Notes:

    Also called Helen.

    Ellen married Robert de Quincy before 5 Dec 1237. Robert (son of Saher de Quincy and Margaret of Leicester) was born before 1200 in of Wakes Colne, Essex, England; died in Aug 1257. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Joan de Quincy died on 25 Nov 1283.
    2. Hawise de Quincy was born about 1250; died before 27 Mar 1285.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Llywelyn Fawr ap Iorwerth was born about 1173 (son of Iorwerth Drwyndwn ap Owain Gwynedd and Margred ferch Madog); died on 11 Apr 1240 in Aberconwy Abbey, Conwy, Wales; was buried in Aberconwy Abbey, Conwy, Wales.

    Notes:

    "The Great." Prince of Wales; Prince of Aberffraw; Lord of Snowden. Died as a Cistercian monk.

    Llywelyn married Joan of England before 23 Mar 1205. Joan (daughter of John, King of England and Clemence) was born before 1190; died on 30 Mar 1236; was buried in Llanvaes, Anglesey, Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Joan of England was born before 1190 (daughter of John, King of England and Clemence); died on 30 Mar 1236; was buried in Llanvaes, Anglesey, Wales.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Feb 1237
    • Alternate death: 2 Feb 1237, Aberystwyth, Ceredigion, Wales

    Notes:

    Princess of North Wales. Also called, in Welsh, Siwan.

    From Leo van de Pas, in a posting to soc.genealogy.medieval, 23 Feb 1999:

    "I found the following about Joan bastard of England, after her death she was buried at Llanfaes but, at the dissolution of the monastery, her coffin was removed. In the 19th century it was discovered that it was being used as a horse trough. Rescued from this use, it was placed in Baron Hill Park, near Beaumaris in Anglesey. The most recent location is given as the Church of St. Mary and St. Nicholas in Beaumaris."

    Children:
    1. Gwladus Ddu died in 1251 in Windsor, Berkshire, England.
    2. 1. Ellen of Wales died before 24 Oct 1253.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Iorwerth Drwyndwn ap Owain Gwynedd (son of Owain Gwynedd, King of Gwynedd and Gwladus ferch Llywarch); died about 1174.

    Notes:

    Drwyndwn, "flatnose."

    Iorwerth married Margred ferch Madog. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Margred ferch Madog (daughter of Madog ap Maredudd, Prince of Powys Fadog and (Unknown wife or mistress of Madog ap Maredudd)).

    Notes:

    Also called Marared of Powys.

    Children:
    1. 2. Llywelyn Fawr ap Iorwerth was born about 1173; died on 11 Apr 1240 in Aberconwy Abbey, Conwy, Wales; was buried in Aberconwy Abbey, Conwy, Wales.

  3. 6.  John, King of England was born about 27 Dec 1166 in Oxford, Oxfordshire, England (son of Henry II, King of England and Eleanor of Aquitaine, Queen Consort of France; Queen Consort of England); died on 19 Oct 1216 in Newark Castle, Newark, Nottinghamshire, England; was buried in Worcester Cathedral, Worcestershire, England.

    Notes:

    Nicknamed "Lackland".

    "With regard to the birthdate of John, there have been disagreements as to the exact date and year, because of discrepancies in the sources. This was recently discussed in detail in Lewis (2002), where the conclusion was reached that 1166 was more likely than 1167. A statement in the early thirteenth century that John received that name because he was born about the time of the feast of St. John (27 December) would, if true, indicate that date as a plausible date of birth [Ex chronico anonymi canonici, ut videtur, Laudensis, RHF 13, 678-9]. However, that source only indicates a birth on about that date ('circa festum S. Johannis natus fuit'), not on it." [Stewart Baldwin, The Henry Project]

    For at least part of his upbringing, he was raised in the remarkable household of his father Henry II's justiciar Ranulph de Glanville, along with, among others, the Walter brothers, nephews of Glanville's wife Bertha de Valognes. Theobald Walter would become, under John, chief butler of England and Ireland and the founder of enduring lordships in Munster and Leinster. Hubert Walter would become archbishop of Canterbury, Ranulph de Glanville's successor as justiciar of England, and then, in John's kingship, chancellor of England. Also raised and educated in the same household was Geoffrey fitz Peter, who would become John's justiciar.

    John married Clemence. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 7.  Clemence

    Notes:

    In her daughter's obituary in the Tewkesbury Annals, she is called "Regina Clementina"; this is the only evidence for her name..

    "The identity of Clemence, mother of King John's illegitimate daughter Joan, is presently unknown. She is perhaps the same person as Clemence le Boteler, wife of Nicholas de Verdun., Knt. (died 1231), of Brandon (in Wolston), Warwickshire, Alton, Staffordshire, etc. In 1228 Nicholas and his wife, Clemence, were granted custody of the king's niece, Susanna, daughter of Llewelyn, Prince of North Wales, and his wife, Joan [see C.P.R. 1225-1232 (1903): 230; VCH Warwick 6 (1951): 273-280; Hagger Fortunes of a Norman Family (2001): 16 (chart), 68-69, 76]. If Clemence was Susanna's grandmother, it would explain her inclusion in the grant of Susanna's custody. Regardless, stronger evidence is needed before any firm conclusion can be drawn about a possible relationship between these families." [Royal Ancestry]

    Children:
    1. 3. Joan of England was born before 1190; died on 30 Mar 1236; was buried in Llanvaes, Anglesey, Wales.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  Owain Gwynedd, King of Gwynedd (son of Gruffydd ap Cynan ab Iago, King of Gwynedd and Angharad ferch Owain); died in 1169; was buried in Bangor Cathedral, Bangor, Gwynedd, Wales.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 23 Nov 1170
    • Alternate death: 28 Nov 1170

    Notes:

    "Though it was Owain who finally accepted the principle of Angevin overlordship over Gwynedd, he regarded himself as no ordinary vassal (his attitude to episcopal elections in the see of Bangor should be noted) and it is clear that it was he who gave initial direction to the policies of his successors. It was largely due to his example, moreover, that the native rulers of Wales ceased to be mere tribal chieftains and took their place alongside the great feudal magnates of the time. The praises so repeatedly accorded to his many personal qualities by contemporary poets, and indeed by several public figures who could not have been predisposed in his favour, have so genuine a tone about them that the progressive trends in all the arts of peace and war discerned in 12th century Wales, it must be concluded, were in large measure due to the fostering genius of ‘Owain the Great.’" [Dictionary of Welsh Biography, citation details below.]

    Owain married Gwladus ferch Llywarch. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  Gwladus ferch Llywarch (daughter of Llywarch ap Trahearn).

    Notes:

    Also called Gwladus of North Wales.

    Children:
    1. 4. Iorwerth Drwyndwn ap Owain Gwynedd died about 1174.
    2. Gwenllian ferch Owain

  3. 10.  Madog ap Maredudd, Prince of Powys Fadog (son of Maredudd ap Bleddyn ap Cynfyn and Hunydd ferch Einudd); died in 1160 in Winchester, Hampshire, England; was buried in St. Tysilio, Meifod, Powys, Wales.

    Madog married (Unknown wife or mistress of Madog ap Maredudd). [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 11.  (Unknown wife or mistress of Madog ap Maredudd)
    Children:
    1. Gwenllian ferch Madog died in 1160.
    2. Owain Brogyntyn ap Madog ap Maredudd ap Bleddyn, King of Powys
    3. 5. Margred ferch Madog

  5. 12.  Henry II, King of England was born on 4 Mar 1133 in Le Mans, Sarthe, Pays-de-la-Loire, France (son of Geoffrey V of Anjou and Maud "The Empress"); died on 6 Jul 1189 in Chinon, Indre-et-Loire, Centre, France; was buried in Fontévrault Abbey, near Chinon, Anjou, France.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: 5 Mar 1133, Le Mans, Sarthe, Pays-de-la-Loire, France

    Notes:

    Also called Henry Fitz Empress; Henry Fitz Geoffrey.

    Henry married Eleanor of Aquitaine, Queen Consort of France; Queen Consort of England on 18 May 1152 in Bordeaux Cathedral, Bordeaux, Gironde, France. Eleanor (daughter of William X of Aquitaine and Aénor de Châtellerault) was born in 1122; died in 1204; was buried in Fontévrault Abbey, near Chinon, Anjou, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  6. 13.  Eleanor of Aquitaine, Queen Consort of France; Queen Consort of England was born in 1122 (daughter of William X of Aquitaine and Aénor de Châtellerault); died in 1204; was buried in Fontévrault Abbey, near Chinon, Anjou, France.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1124
    • Alternate death: 31 Mar 1204, Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou-Charentes, France
    • Alternate death: 1 Apr 1204

    Notes:

    Also called Alienor, Helienordis. Duchess of Aquitaine.

    Children:
    1. Henry the Young King, Titular King of England was born on 28 Feb 1155; died on 11 Jun 1183 in Castle of Martel, Lot, France.
    2. Matilda of England was born in 1156 in London, England; died on 28 Jun 1189.
    3. Richard I, King of England was born on 8 Sep 1157 in Beaumont Palace, Oxford, Oxfordshire, England; died on 6 Apr 1199 in Châlus, Aquitaine, France; was buried in Fontévrault Abbey, near Chinon, Anjou, France.
    4. Eleanor of England was born in 1161; died on 21 Sep 1214; was buried in Abbey of Santa María la Real de Las Huelgas, Burgos, Castile, Spain.
    5. 6. John, King of England was born about 27 Dec 1166 in Oxford, Oxfordshire, England; died on 19 Oct 1216 in Newark Castle, Newark, Nottinghamshire, England; was buried in Worcester Cathedral, Worcestershire, England.