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Thomas Gyles

Male Abt 1881 -


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Thomas Gyles was born about Feb 1881 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England (son of Thomas Gyles and Mary Edwards).

    Family/Spouse: Isabelle Norman. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Thomas Gyles was born on 5 Jul 1850 in Penzance, Cornwall, England (son of George Gyles and Ann Curnow Hodge); died on 4 Dec 1926 in Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales.

    Other Events:

    • Baptised: 25 Jul 1850, St. Ives Primitive Methodist Chapel, St. Ives, Cornwall, England

    Notes:

    Described on his marriage record as "bachelor" and "fisherman." Could sign his own name.

    Many online records for Thomas Gyles give his parents as William Harry Gyles (1814-1877) and Ann "Nancy" Quick Curnow (1821-1909). But I think this is a different Thomas Gyles, not the one who married Mary Edwards. Most significantly, the record of Thomas Gyles's marriage to Mary Edwards, 1 Jun 1873, searchable at the Cornish Online Parish Clerks Database (https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/home/), gives his father as George Gyles, master mariner. Supporting this, the 25 Jul 1850 record of Thomas Gyles's baptism at the St. Ives Primitive Methodist Chapel, which gives his birth date as 5 Jul 1850, gives his parents as George Gyles, sailor, and his wife Ann Curnow Gyles.

    The 1851 census shows Thomas Gyles, age 9 months, living with his mother Ann Gyles, age 35, relationship to head of household "wife". The 1861 census shows Thomas Gyles, age 10, living with his mother Ann C. Gyles, head of household, age 45. It is easy to see how both of these records could be interpreted to refer to Ann "Nancy" Quick Curnow rather than Ann Curnow Gyles. But the 1871 census disambiguates this. The Thomas Gyles who is shown in St. Ives, age 20, living in the household of William H. and Nancy Gyles, is given as a "builder", not a trade our Thomas Gyles is ever recorded as having plied. (This Thomas Gyles's father, William Harry Gyles, was a "builder & architect.") Meanwhile, also in the 1871 census, our Thomas Gyles, age 20, called a "fisherman" (which we know was his trade), is living at The Wharf, St. Ives, with Daniel Veal, age 49, head of household (to whom Thomas Gyles is called "son-in-law"), and Ann Veal, age 56. And St. Ives parish records show that in 1862, following the 1854 death of Thomas's father George Gyles, Ann Curnow (Hodge) Gyles married Daniel Veal. (Her 1895 death record calls her Ann Curnow Veal.)

    He and his wife Mary moved to Wales sometime between the 1891 census of England and the 1901 census of Wales. They appear to have lived the rest of their lives in Barry, Glamorganshire. His probate record of 14 Jan 1927 refers to him as "GYLES Thomas of 68 Castleland-street Barry".

    Thomas married Mary Edwards on 1 Jun 1873 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England. Mary (daughter of Anthony Grenfell Edwards and Jane Andrew) was born on 4 May 1851 in Penzance, Cornwall, England; died on 27 Jun 1937 in East Glamorgan, Glamorgan, Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Mary EdwardsMary Edwards was born on 4 May 1851 in Penzance, Cornwall, England (daughter of Anthony Grenfell Edwards and Jane Andrew); died on 27 Jun 1937 in East Glamorgan, Glamorgan, Wales.

    Other Events:

    • Baptised: 14 May 1851, St. Ives Primitive Methodist Chapel, St. Ives, Cornwall, England

    Notes:

    Described on her marriage record as "spinster." Could sign her own name.

    Notes:

    Witnesses: Anthony Grenfell Edwards, Jane Edwards.

    Children:
    1. Mary Gyles was born between Oct and Dec 1873 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England.
    2. William Penberthy Gyles was born in Nov 1875 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England.
    3. 1. Thomas Gyles was born about Feb 1881 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England.
    4. Richard Edwards Gyles was born on 13 Aug 1886 in Penzance, Cornwall, England; died on 27 Jan 1945 in Flint, Genesee, Michigan; was buried in Sunset Hills Cemetery, Flint, Genessee, Michigan.
    5. Jane Edwards Gyles was born in Dec 1889 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  George Gyles was born before 24 Nov 1815 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England (son of John Gyles and Mary Thomas); died between Jul 1854 and Sep 1854 in Cornwall, England.

    Other Events:

    • Baptised: 24 Nov 1815, St. Ives, Cornwall, England

    Notes:

    Described on his marriage record as "bachelor" and "mariner." Could sign his own name.

    Described on his son Thomas's 1873 marriage record as "master mariner."

    On 19 Aug 1846 he was a witness to the marriage of Matthew Veal, son of Matthew Veal, fisherman, to Catherine Gyles, daughter of John Gyles, mariner. Notable since after his death, his widow also married a Veal.

    It's notable that he was baptized in the C of E, but his son Thomas (and Thomas's wife Mary Edwards) were both baptized as Primitive Methodists.

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    He is shown on some sites as a son of John Gyles and Johanna Harry, presumably the Joanna Harry recorded as baptised 14 Aug 1786 in St. Ives, daughter of John and Joanna.

    And it's true that the John Gyles who married Johanna Harry in St. Ives on 23 Jul 1810 is identified as a "mariner," just as George Gyles is on his own marriage record, which makes it reasonable to suppose that this John and Johanna were the parents of George.

    But our George Gyles was recorded as "of full age" when he married Ann Curnow Hodge in 1841. Therefore he has to have been born no later than 1820. The only two George Gyleses recorded baptised in St. Ives between 1800 and 1820, one on 20 Jan 1811 and one on 24 Nov 1815, are both given on their baptismal records as sons of a John and a Mary. (On the baptismal record of the latter George Gyles, the father John is identified as a cooper.)

    And a search for marriages in St. Ives between 1790 and 1814 involving a groom named John Gyles or Giles yields two marriages, both in 1810. One is the marriage of a John Gyles to Johanna Harry mentioned above. The other, 6 Feb 1810, is John Gyles, "bachelor", married by banns to Mary Thomas, "spinster". Witnesses John Shugg Trevorrow, Edward Richards.

    Moreover, the only John Gyles or Giles recorded as baptised in St. Ives between 1780 and 1795 is John Gyles, son of Richard and Elisabeth, baptised 19 Oct 1791. Aged 18 on 6 Feb 1810, he would have been eligible to marry by banns provided that neither his nor the bride's parents objected.

    The only way the George Gyles who married Ann Curnow Hodge could have been a son of Johanna or Joanna Harry is if he was neither the George Gyles baptised in St. Ives on 24 Nov 1815, nor the individual of the same name baptised there on 20 Jan 1811. And while absence is not proof, there are, again, no other Georges Gyles recorded baptised in St. Ives between 1800 and 1820.

    George married Ann Curnow Hodge on 29 Jul 1841 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England. Ann (daughter of Lewis Hodge and Jane Michell) was born before 31 May 1816; died between Jul 1895 and Sep 1895 in Penzance, Cornwall, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Ann Curnow HodgeAnn Curnow Hodge was born before 31 May 1816 (daughter of Lewis Hodge and Jane Michell); died between Jul 1895 and Sep 1895 in Penzance, Cornwall, England.

    Other Events:

    • Baptised: 31 May 1816, St. Ives, Cornwall, England

    Notes:

    Described on her marriage record as "spinster" and "of full age." Could sign her own name.

    Notes:

    Witnesses: Lewis Hodge, Thomas Williams.

    Children:
    1. 2. Thomas Gyles was born on 5 Jul 1850 in Penzance, Cornwall, England; died on 4 Dec 1926 in Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales.

  3. 6.  Anthony Grenfell Edwards was born before 29 Oct 1824 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England (son of Richard Bryan Edwards and Mary Grenfell); died about Feb 1897 in Cornwall, England.

    Other Events:

    • Baptised: 29 Oct 1824, St. Ives, Cornwall, England

    Notes:

    Described as "bachelor" and "fisherman" on his marriage record. Signed by mark.

    Described as "master mariner" on his daughter Mary's 1873 marriage record.

    His children Mary and Anthony were baptized at the Primitive Methodist chapel. His son Henry was baptized at the St. Ives C of E church.

    John Slee has a Richard Edwards b. 1799 as the father of Anthony Grenfell Edwards, but I believe this is incorrect. The 1841 census has Anthony Edwards, aged 15, living with Richard Edwards, 60 (he was actually 63), Mary Edwards, 55, and Elizabeth Edwards, 20.

    Anthony married Jane Andrew on 20 Jun 1846 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England. Jane (daughter of John Andrew and Nancy Binney) was born before 25 May 1827 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England; died after 3 Apr 1881. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 7.  Jane Andrew was born before 25 May 1827 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England (daughter of John Andrew and Nancy Binney); died after 3 Apr 1881.

    Other Events:

    • Baptised: 25 May 1827, St. Ives, Cornwall, England
    • Alternate death: Oct 1888, Cornwall, England

    Notes:

    Called "Jane Andrews" and "spinster" on her marriage record. Signed by mark.

    Notes:

    Witnesses: Jacob R. Jacobs, Thomas Williams.

    Children:
    1. Jane Edwards was born about 1849 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England.
    2. 3. Mary Edwards was born on 4 May 1851 in Penzance, Cornwall, England; died on 27 Jun 1937 in East Glamorgan, Glamorgan, Wales.
    3. Anthony Edwards was born on 7 Mar 1854 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England.
    4. E. Henry Edwards was born before 20 Mar 1861 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  John Gyles was born on 20 May 1791 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England (son of Richard Gyles and Elizabeth Bennett).

    Other Events:

    • Baptised: 19 Oct 1791, St. Ives, Cornwall, England

    Notes:

    Cooper. Described on his marriage record as "bachelor." Could sign his own name.

    The transcriber of his baptismal record at the Cornwall Online Parish Clerks site notes that the birth date is blurred and difficult to read.

    John married Mary Thomas on 6 Feb 1810 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England. Mary (daughter of Lewis Thomas and Grace James) was born before 6 Jun 1791 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England; died between 1 Jul 1874 and 30 Sep 1874. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  Mary Thomas was born before 6 Jun 1791 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England (daughter of Lewis Thomas and Grace James); died between 1 Jul 1874 and 30 Sep 1874.

    Other Events:

    • Baptised: 6 Jun 1791, St. Ives, Cornwall, England

    Notes:

    Described on her marriage record as "spinster." Signed the record by mark.

    Notes:

    Witnesses: Edward Richards, John Shugg Trevorrow.

    Children:
    1. 4. George Gyles was born before 24 Nov 1815 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England; died between Jul 1854 and Sep 1854 in Cornwall, England.

  3. 10.  Lewis Hodge was born before 2 May 1773 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England (son of Christopher Hodge and Mary Noble); died before 20 Sep 1848 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England; was buried on 20 Sep 1848 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England.

    Other Events:

    • Baptised: 2 May 1773, St. Ives, Cornwall, England

    Notes:

    Described on has marriage record as "mariner." He could sign his own name.

    Lewis married Jane Michell on 15 Feb 1797 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England. Jane (daughter of Matthew Michell and Catherine Stevens) was born before 6 May 1770 in Zennor, Cornwall, England; died before 14 Apr 1843; was buried on 14 Apr 1843 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 11.  Jane Michell was born before 6 May 1770 in Zennor, Cornwall, England (daughter of Matthew Michell and Catherine Stevens); died before 14 Apr 1843; was buried on 14 Apr 1843 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England.

    Other Events:

    • Baptised: 6 May 1770, Zennor, Cornwall, England
    • Alternate death: Abt May 1843, Penzance, Cornwall, England

    Notes:

    Sometimes spelled Mitchell. Described on her marriage record as "spinster." Signed the record by mark.

    Notes:

    Witnesses: Hannibal Thomas, Christopher Hodge.

    Children:
    1. Jane Hodge was born before 4 Feb 1798; died before 1806.
    2. Matthew Hodge was born before 4 Feb 1798.
    3. Lewis Hodge was born before 21 Jul 1799.
    4. Kitty Hodge was born before 29 Dec 1801.
    5. Christopher Hodge was born before 29 Jan 1804; died before 19 Apr 1808; was buried on 19 Apr 1808 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England.
    6. Jane Hodge was born before 16 Feb 1806; died before 21 Apr 1808; was buried on 21 Apr 1808 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England.
    7. Christopher Hodge was born before 19 Feb 1809; died before 14 Mar 1809; was buried on 14 Mar 1809 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England.
    8. Jane Hodge was born on 18 May 1810 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England.
    9. Mary Hodge was born on 18 May 1810 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England.
    10. Christopher Hodge was born on 2 Sep 1812 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England.
    11. 5. Ann Curnow Hodge was born before 31 May 1816; died between Jul 1895 and Sep 1895 in Penzance, Cornwall, England.

  5. 12.  Richard Bryan Edwards was born before 29 Nov 1778 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England (son of Daniel Edwards and Prudence Bryant); died before 28 Jan 1851 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England; was buried on 28 Jan 1851 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England.

    Other Events:

    • Baptised: 29 Nov 1778, St. Ives, Cornwall, England

    Notes:

    Fisherman. Described as "mariner" on the record of his marriage. Could sign his own name.

    Richard married Mary Grenfell on 24 Jul 1803 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England. Mary (daughter of John Grenfell and Mary Daniell) was born on 17 Jul 1786 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England; died before 19 Mar 1848 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England; was buried on 19 Mar 1848 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  6. 13.  Mary Grenfell was born on 17 Jul 1786 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England (daughter of John Grenfell and Mary Daniell); died before 19 Mar 1848 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England; was buried on 19 Mar 1848 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England.

    Other Events:

    • Baptised: 6 Feb 1787, St. Ives, Cornwall, England

    Notes:

    Described as "spinster" on the record of her marriage. Signed her marriage certificate by mark.

    Notes:

    Witness: Anthoney Grenfell.

    Children:
    1. Daniel Edwards was born before 18 Jan 1804 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England.
    2. Richard Bryant Edwards was born before 10 Jul 1806 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England; died before 22 Jun 1807 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England; was buried on 22 Jun 1807 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England.
    3. Richard Bryant Edwards was born before 21 Jul 1808 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England.
    4. Henry Edwards was born before 14 Jun 1811 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England; died before 15 Mar 1814 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England; was buried on 15 Mar 1814 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England.
    5. Henry Edwards was born before 22 Apr 1814 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England.
    6. Mary Edwards was born before 13 Dec 1816 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England; died in Apr 1904 in Cornwall, Ontario.
    7. Elizabeth Bryant Edwards was born before 2 Mar 1821 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England; died on 17 Dec 1870 in Moonta, South Australia, Australia.
    8. 6. Anthony Grenfell Edwards was born before 29 Oct 1824 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England; died about Feb 1897 in Cornwall, England.

  7. 14.  John Andrew was born about 1805 in Cornwall, England.

    Notes:

    Shipmaster. Described as "bachelor" on his marriage record. Could sign his own name.

    John married Nancy Binney on 22 Dec 1824 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England. Nancy was born about 1805 in Cornwall, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  8. 15.  Nancy Binney was born about 1805 in Cornwall, England.

    Notes:

    Described as "spinster" on her marriage record. Signed by mark.

    Notes:

    Witnesses: Mathew Jennings, Thomas Williams.

    Children:
    1. 7. Jane Andrew was born before 25 May 1827 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England; died after 3 Apr 1881.
    2. John Andrew was born about 1829 in Cornwall, England.
    3. Candice Binney Andrews was born before 16 May 1832.
    4. Nancy Binney Andrew was born about 1837 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England.
    5. Philip Andrew was born about 1839 in Cornwall, England.
    6. Henry M Andrew was born about 1842 in St. Ives, Cornwall, England.