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Ralph de Somery

Male - 1211


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Ralph de Somery was born in in of Dudley, Staffordshire, England (son of John de Somery and Hawise Paynel); died between 29 Sep 1210 and 29 Sep 1211; was buried between 1210 and 1211.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Aft 29 Sep 1210
    • Alternate death: 1211

    Notes:

    Note that although Dudley town is in Worcestershire, Dudley Castle was across the county border in Staffordshire.

    Ralph married Margaret le Gras before 1194. Margaret (daughter of William le Gras and (Unknown) Marshal) died after 14 Jun 1247. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Joan de Somery died after 1273.
    2. Roger de Somery was born before 1209 in of Dudley, Staffordshire, England; died on 26 Aug 1273.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  John de Somery was born in in of Little Crawley, Buckinghamshire, England; died before 1194.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Aft 1196

    John married Hawise Paynel. Hawise (daughter of Ralph Paynel and (Unknown) de Ferrers) died before 1209. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Hawise Paynel (daughter of Ralph Paynel and (Unknown) de Ferrers); died before 1209.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Bef 1210

    Children:
    1. 1. Ralph de Somery was born in in of Dudley, Staffordshire, England; died between 29 Sep 1210 and 29 Sep 1211; was buried between 1210 and 1211.


Generation: 3

  1. 6.  Ralph Paynel was born in in of Dudley, Worcestershire, England (son of Fulk Paynel and Beatrice Fitz Ansculf); died before 1153.

    Notes:

    A supporter of the Empress Maud.

    Ralph married (Unknown) de Ferrers. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 7.  (Unknown) de Ferrers (daughter of Robert de Ferrers and Hawise).

    Notes:

    Ancestral Roots calls her "prob. dau. of Robert de Ferrers, d. 1139."

    Children:
    1. 3. Hawise Paynel died before 1209.


Generation: 4

  1. 12.  Fulk Paynel was born in in of Dudley, Worcestershire, England (son of William Paynel); died after 1130.

    Notes:

    Also called Fulk Paganel; Fulk Pagnell.

    Shown as a son of William Paynel based on CP X:320, which says that it is "not unlikely" that he was a younger brother of Ralph Paynel who d. about 1100.

    Fulk married Beatrice Fitz Ansculf. Beatrice (daughter of William Fitz Ansculf) was born in in of Picquigny, Picardy, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 13.  Beatrice Fitz Ansculf was born in in of Picquigny, Picardy, France (daughter of William Fitz Ansculf).

    Notes:

    According to Ancestral Roots, Fulk Paynel "m. an heir (poss. a dau., Beatrice) of William Fitz Ansculf (from Picquigny), his Domesday tenancy-in-chief, later known as the barony of Dudley, Worcester."

    Children:
    1. 6. Ralph Paynel was born in in of Dudley, Worcestershire, England; died before 1153.

  3. 14.  Robert de Ferrers (son of Henry de Ferrers and Bertha); died in 1139.

    Notes:

    A commander at the Battle of the Standard, following which he was created Earl of Derby by Stephen.

    Robert married Hawise. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 15.  Hawise

    Notes:

    Complete Peerage, Ancestral Roots, etc., show her as Hawise de Vitré, daughter of André I de Vitré (1055-1139) and Agnes de Mortain, but Keats-Rohan in Domesday Descendants says "there is no convincing evidence of her identity."

    Children:
    1. Isabel de Ferrers
    2. Robert de Ferrers died before 1160; was buried in Merevale Abbey, Warwickshire, England.
    3. 7. (Unknown) de Ferrers