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Roger de Mortimer

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  1. 1.  Roger de Mortimer was born in in of Wigmore, Herefordshire, England (son of Ralph de Mortimer and Gwladus Ddu); died on 27 Oct 1282 in Kingsland, Herefordshire, England; was buried in Wigmore Abbey, Herefordshire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1231, Cwmaron Castle, Radnorshire, Wales
    • Alternate death: Bef 30 Oct 1282, Kingsland, Herefordshire, England

    Notes:

    Captain General of the Marshes; Constable of Clun and Hereford Castles; Sheriff of Herefordshire 1266-7.

    According to one chronicle account, it was he who struck the blow that killed Simon de Montfort at Evesham.

    "He had livery of his inheritance 26 February 1246/7; and at Whitsuntide 1253 was made a knight by the King at Winchester. He was serving in Gascony in 1253, and 1254, and from 1255 to 1264 was chiefly occupied with his duties on the March, opposing the successes of his cousin Llewelyn ap Griffith, who was gradually uniting all the Welsh chieftains under his leadership. In the disputes between the King and the Barons in 1258, Mortimer at first took the Barons' side, and was one of the twelve chosen by them to act with twelve chosen by the King, and one of the twenty-four appointed to treat about an aid for the King. In October 1258 he attested the King's proclamation for the observance of the Provisions of Oxford, and in Apr. 1259 was sworn of the King's Council. The 'Provisions' drawn up by the Barons in that year directed that Roger de Mortimer and Philip Basset should accompany the justiciar. On 11 June of that year he was appointed one of the commissioners to demand satisfaction from Llewelyn for breaches of the truce, which on 25 June was prolonged for one year. He was present at the confirmation of the treaty with France, 21 July 1259. On 19 May 1260 the Council of Magnates appointed him constable of Hereford Castle. On 17 July following he arrived in London to attend a Council, and on that day Llewelyn's men took Builth Castle, of which Mortimer had custody for Prince Edward. In December 1260 he had a licence to take game and to fish along the Thames and its tributaries. In December 1261 he was commanded to send his seal, if he were unable to come in person, to have it affixed to the writing made of peace between the King and the Barons. The whole of the years 1262 and 1263 he spent in fighting Llewelyn with varying success. On 3 December 1263 he was one of the armed nobles with the King when Henry demanded, and was refused, entry to Dover Castle; and in January following attested, on the King's side, the submission of the quarrel between Henry and the Barons to Louis, King of France. On 6 April 1264 he was with the King at the taking of Northampton, and captured a number of prisoners; and in May was with the King at Lewes, but fled from the field to Pevensey. He and others who had fled were allowed to return home, giving hostages that they would come to Parliament, when summoned, and stand trial by their peers. Mortimer and the other Lords Marchers did not attend Montfort's 'Parliament' at Midsummer 1264, but were constrained to make peace with him in August. In September Mortimer, as constable of Cardigan, was ordered to give up the castle to Guy de Brien, Montfort's nominee. The Marchers again broke the truce, but before Christmas Montfort and Llewelyn finally reduced them to submission. Soon afterwards Roger and the others were banished to Ireland for a year, but did not go; and in December he had safe conduct to see the King and Prince Edward, who was at Kenilworth. In June 1265 he was among the 'rebels holding certain towns and castles throughout the land, and raising new wars.' Later in the same month he contrived the plan, and furnished the swift horse, by means of which Prince Edward escaped from Hereford Castle and came to Wigmore, where he and Roger de Clifford rode out to meet him and drove off his pursuers. At Evesham, on 4 August 1265, Mortimer commanded the rearguard; and after Montfort's death his head was sent to Mortimer's wife at Wigmore. Mortimer was liberally rewarded, receiving, among other grants, the 'county and honour' of Oxford with lands forfeited by Robert de Vere. In September 1265 he was at the Parliament at Winchester. From Easter 1266 to Michaelmas 1267 he was sheriff of Hereford. On 4 May 1266 he, with Edmund the King's son, and others, was given power to repress the King's enemies; but on 15 May he was heavily defeated by the Welsh at Brecknock, escaping only with difficulty. He took part in the siege of Kenilworth in June 1266. In February 1266/7 he quarrelled with Gloucester over the treatment of the 'disinherited,' whom Gloucester favoured. He was present at the Council at Westminster, 12 February 1269/70. Shortly before Prince Edward sailed for the Holy Land, in August 1270, he was made one of the trustees for the Prince's estates during his absence on the Crusade. On 12 September 1271 he was summoned to 'Parliament' at Westminster. In December 1272 he put down a threatened rising in the North, and the following February was sent to Chester to inquire into complaints against Reynold de Grey, justice there. In 1274 and 1275 he sat as a justice. He was one of the magnates having large interests in Ireland present in Parliament at Westminster, 19 May 1275, who granted the same export duties on wool and hides in their ports in Ireland as had been granted by the lords in England. In October following he was chief assessor of a subsidy in Salop and Staffs. On 12 November 1276 he was one of the magnates at Westminster who gave judgment against Llewelyn; four days later was appointed 'captain' of Salop and cos. Stafford and Hereford and the Marches against the Welsh prince. In 1279 he held a splendid tournament at Kenilworth. On 27 October 1282 the King ordered, 'as a special favour which has never been granted before,' that if Roger should die during his present illness, the executors of his will should not be impeded by reason of his debts to the Exchequer." [Complete Peerage]

    Roger married Maud de Briouze before 1248. Maud (daughter of William de Briouze and Eve Marshal) died on 16 Mar 1301. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Isabella de Mortimer was born on 14 Sep 1246; died before 1 Apr 1292; was buried in Haughmond Abbey, Shropshire, England.
    2. Edmund de Mortimer was born between 1251 and 1254 in of Wigmore, Herefordshire, England; died on 17 Jul 1304 in Wigmore Castle, Herefordshire, England; was buried in Wigmore Abbey, Herefordshire, England.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Ralph de Mortimer was born in in of Wigmore, Herefordshire, England (son of Roger de Mortimer and Isabel de Ferrers); died on 6 Aug 1246; was buried in Wigmore Abbey, Herefordshire, England.

    Notes:

    Constable of Clun Castle, Shropshire.

    "In 1216 he had been one of a deputation sent by King John to William de Briwere, after his forced adhesion to the Barons during their occupation of London, to arrange for his return to the King's service; and in September 1217 he had witnessed at Lambeth the articles drawn up between Henry III and Louis of France. On 23 November 1227 he gave £100 as relief for the lands of his brother Hugh, and the King took his homage; and on 8 July 1229, for his faithful service, he was pardoned all except £500 of the debts of his father and brother. In October 1230 he obtained a charter for a fair at Knighton and free warren at Stratfield, and in 1231 he was made custodian of Clun Castle and honour during pleasure. In June 1233, with the other Lords Marchers, Ralph exchanged hostages with the King de fideli servicio, quousque regnum sit ita securatum quod firma pax sit in regno Anglie. On 7 November following he attested a charter of Henry III at Hereford. He was present on 28 January 1235/6 at the confirmation of Magna Carta at Westminster, and in the same year he and the other Lords Marchers claimed the right to find and bear the silvered spears which supported the canopies held over the King and Queen in their Coronation procession; but the right of the Barons of the Cinque Ports to carry both canopies being allowed, the Marchers' claim was rejected as frivolous. In 1241 he was first of the pledges to the King for his sister-in-law Senana, wife of Griffith ap Llewelyn; but in August that year Meredith ap Howel and the other Welsh lords of Kerry made a permanent peace with Henry III, whether they should be at war with Ralph de Mortimer or not. In June 1242 he was summoned to come to the King's aid in Gascony as soon as possible." [Complete Peerage]

    "Ralph [...] was continually engaged on the Welsh marches. At first he stood on the defensive, unable to make much impression on Llywelyn's power. No doubt it was for this reason that in 1230 he married Gwladus Ddu (d. 1251), daughter of Llywelyn and widow of Reginald de Briouze. It was only after the death of his father-in-law in 1240 that Mortimer was able to take the military initiative again, with attacks upon the Welsh. In the summer of 1241 there was war in Maelienydd, and this time the Mortimers prevailed, ending Welsh control of the lordship of Gwrtheyrnion. Ralph (II) died on 6 August 1246 and was buried at Wigmore Abbey, where he was remembered as a warlike and energetic man' (Dugdale, Monasticon, 6, pt 1, 350)." [Oxford Dictionary of National Biography]

    Ralph married Gwladus Ddu before 26 Oct 1230. Gwladus (daughter of Llywelyn Fawr ap Iorwerth and Joan of England) died in 1251 in Windsor, Berkshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Gwladus Ddu (daughter of Llywelyn Fawr ap Iorwerth and Joan of England); died in 1251 in Windsor, Berkshire, England.

    Notes:

    Also called Gwladus ferch Llewelyn; Gladusia.

    Notes on the parentage of Gwladus and Margaret, daughters of Llwelyn ap Fawr:

    Complete Peerage (IX:276) and Royal Ancestry both give Gwladus as a daughter of Joan of England. Royal Ancestry gives Margaret as an illegitimate daughter of Llywelyn.

    The Oxford Dictionary of National Biography says that Joan was "probably" the mother of Gwladus and Margaret.

    In The American Genealogist 41:99 (1965), Walter Lee Sheppard notes that "DNB's account gives Joan only the son David with Helen as probable. Lloyd's History of Wales [...] includes a chart so drawn as to make the maternity of the daughters questionable, and omits Angharad altogether. Prof. Thomas Jones Pierce in his article on Joan in the Dictionary of Welsh Biography names David, but does not mention the daughters at all; but then his cited sources are ony DNB and Lloyd's History of Wales in earlier editions. The correspondence of the writer with Sir Anthony Richard Wagner, Garter Principal King of Arms, however, indicates that all these daughters, with the exception of Gwladys, have been accepted by Major Francis Jones, best known authority on Welsh pedigrees, and based on British Museum Manuscript Add. 15041, on folio 12a, which shows Joan to be mother of David, Gwenlian, Angharad, and Margaret. It is interesting to note that [Complete Peerage] 9:276, under Mortimer of Wigmore, identifies Gwaldys as Joan's daughter."

    Later in the same publication, TAG 41:22, Sheppard provides an addendum, first quoting a letter from E. D. Jones, Librarian of the National Library of Wales: "Robert Vaughan of Hengwrt, a reliable seventeenth century authority, makes Gwladys full sister to Gruffydd, therefore the daughter of Tangwystl. He makes Gwenllian, Angharad and Marred (Margaret) to be daughters of Joan. I am inclined to accept the view that Gwladys Ddu was the daughter of Tangwystl, but in the absence of contemporary records it is not wise to be too dogmatic." Sheppard then continues: "Sir Anthony Richard Wagner KCVO, Garter Principal King of Arms, in a letter to the writer dated 24 Sept. 1964, states that he would accept Margaret as Joan's daughter and, presumably, the other daughters, except Gwladys. He refers to Major Francis Jones and the previously cited British Museum Additional MS, which shows Joan to be mother of David, and points out that the chronology also fits."

    Peter C. Bartrum's Welsh Genealogies (1974-83, searchable here; use the search term "Gruffudd ap Cynan 04"), gives Tangwystl as the mother of Gwladus and Joan as the probable mother of Margaret.

    William Addams Reitwiesner's "The Children of Joan, Princess of North Wales," in The Genealogist 1:80, Spring 1980, argues that we have no certain basis for regarding Joan as the mother of any of Llywelyn's daughters.

    On 9 April 1999, Douglas Richardson posted the following to SGM: "As for the Welsh tradition that any son, legitimate or otherwise, could make a claim to succeed Llywelyn, you may recall that Llywelyn and his son, David, went out of their way to have David recognized as Llywelyn's sole heir, to the exclusion of Llywelyn's illegitimate sons. To accomplish this, they had Llywelyn's wife, Joan, legitimized. The legitimization of Joan was no small feat seeing she was surely born out of wedlock to King John's mistress. Also, they sent David to England to be recognized as Llywelyn's sole heir by the English overlord, David's own uncle, King Henry III. Interestingly, the records of this trip show that David was accompanied by none other than his sister, Gladys. Due to the nature of this trip, it seems odd that Gladys would accompany David on this trip, UNLESS she too was a legitimate child of Llywelyn and Joan. These two pieces of evidence convince me that Gladys was legitimate." We find Richardson persuasive on this poimt.

    Children:
    1. 1. Roger de Mortimer was born in in of Wigmore, Herefordshire, England; died on 27 Oct 1282 in Kingsland, Herefordshire, England; was buried in Wigmore Abbey, Herefordshire, England.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Roger de Mortimer was born in in of Wigmore, Herefordshire, England (son of Hugh de Mortimer and Maud le Meschin); died before 19 Aug 1214; was buried in Wigmore Abbey, Herefordshire, England.

    Notes:

    Some sources (including Leo van de Pas) say that this Roger de Mortimer was married twice, once to a Millicent de Ferrers, parentage unknown, and once to Isabel de Ferrers, daughter of Walkelin de Ferrers. In this model, Ralph is a son of Isabel whereas Joan is a daughter of Millicent. We have been unable to find a plausible source for any of this. The Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, Complete Peerage, Ancestral Roots, etc., all show this Roger de Mortimer married only once, to Isabel.

    "He was a benefactor of Gloucester Abbey, of Kington, St. Michael, Wilts, of Cwmhir, of Jumièges, and of Saint-Victor-en-Caux. Between 1182 and 1189 he attested at Rouen a charter of Henry II to the monks of Barbey (diocese of Bayeux). In 1191, upon a charge of conspiring with the Welsh against the King, he was forced to surrender his castles and to abjure the country for three years. In April 1194 he was in England again, and witnessed a charter of Richard I, after his second Coronation at Winchester. Roger was a strenuous Lord Marcher, and in 1195 drove the sons of Cadwallon out of Maelienydd, and restored Cwmaron Castle; but next year Rhys, Prince of South Wales, defeated a well-equipped force of cavalry and foot under Mortimer and Hugh de Say, of Richard's Castle, with much slaughter, near Radnor. He was one of the magnates who refused to serve personally in France in 1201, but his fine was remitted. On 1 April 1207 he witnessed a charter of the King at Montfort-sur-Risle, and he appears to have been with John at Bonport in July following. On the loss of Normandy in 1204 Roger adhered to John and forfeited his Norman lands. In 1205 he landed at Dieppe, and being captured by John de Rouvray, bailiff of Caux, was compelled to pay a ransom of 1,000 marks. He was in England again by June 1207, when he was directed to hand Knighton Castle to the custody of a successor; in that year his wife Isabel had a grant of Oakham for life. In 1210 some of his knights served in the King's invasion of Ireland. In 1212 he proffered 3,000 marks for the marriage of the heir of Walter de Beauchamp, to whom he married his daughter Joan. In May 1213 he was one of the sponsors for John's good faith in his reconciliation with Archbishop Langton at the command of the Pope." [Complete Peerage]

    "To the Wigmore chronicler Roger (II) de Mortimer was 'as befitted his years, gay, full of youth and inconstant of heart, and especially somewhat headstrong'. He had served Henry II faithfully during the rebellion of the king's sons in 1173–4, but at the time of his father's death he was in King Henry's prison, because in 1179 his men had killed Cadwallon ap Madog, the ruler of Maelienydd, when the latter was returning from court with a royal safe conduct. He may not have been released until 1182. Roger's conflicts with the Welsh would persist throughout his life, as he struggled to establish his rule over the middle march of Wales. In 1195 he brought Maelienydd under his control, rebuilding the castle at Cymaron. A grant to the abbey of Cwm-hir in Powys in 1199, commemorating 'our men who died in the conquest of Maelienydd', points to casualties as well as achievement (in 1196 his forces were among those heavily defeated at Radnor by the Lord Rhys of Deheubarth), but in 1202 he could be described as supreme in central Wales. [...] In 1191 he was accused by William de Longchamp, the justiciar, of having entered into an unexplained conspiracy with the Welsh against the king, and was forced to abjure the realm, though his exile was much shorter than the three years reported by Richard of Devizes. It is possible that he had become a supporter of Count John, Richard I's brother. But if this was so, he soon transferred his allegiance back to the king, for it was with royal support that he attacked Maelienydd in 1195. However, he later served in Normandy under John as king, and in 1205 was captured when trying to occupy Dieppe, subsequently paying a ransom of 1000 marks. Roger de Mortimer remained loyal to John for the rest of his life. [...] Being overcome by ill health, he transferred his lands to his son, and by 19 August 1214 he was dead. He was buried at Wigmore Abbey. He had at first been on bad terms with the canons, and tried to revoke grants made to them by his father, until the solemnity with which they commemorated Hugh's anniversary reconciled him to them." [Oxford Dictionary of National Biography]

    Roger married Isabel de Ferrers. Isabel (daughter of Walkelin de Ferrers) died before 29 Apr 1252; was buried in Hospital of St. John the Baptist, Lechlade, Gloucestershire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Isabel de Ferrers (daughter of Walkelin de Ferrers); died before 29 Apr 1252; was buried in Hospital of St. John the Baptist, Lechlade, Gloucestershire, England.

    Notes:

    Founded the Hospital of St. John the Baptist at Lechlade "in or before 1246" (VCH Gloucester II: 125).

    Lechlade, in Gloucester, is the highest navigable point of the Thames. It is also where, about 350 years later, TNH's 10XG-grandfather Thomas Prence, several-time governor of Plymouth Colony and husband of Patience Brewster, was born.

    Children:
    1. 2. Ralph de Mortimer was born in in of Wigmore, Herefordshire, England; died on 6 Aug 1246; was buried in Wigmore Abbey, Herefordshire, England.
    2. Joan de Mortimer died in 1225.

  3. 6.  Llywelyn Fawr ap Iorwerth was born about 1173 (son of Iorwerth Drwyndwn ap Owain Gwynedd and Margred ferch Madog); died on 11 Apr 1240 in Aberconwy Abbey, Conwy, Wales; was buried in Aberconwy Abbey, Conwy, Wales.

    Notes:

    "The Great." Prince of Wales; Prince of Aberffraw; Lord of Snowden. Died as a Cistercian monk.

    Llywelyn married Joan of England before 23 Mar 1205. Joan (daughter of John, King of England and Clemence) was born before 1190; died on 30 Mar 1236; was buried in Llanvaes, Anglesey, Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 7.  Joan of England was born before 1190 (daughter of John, King of England and Clemence); died on 30 Mar 1236; was buried in Llanvaes, Anglesey, Wales.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Feb 1237
    • Alternate death: 2 Feb 1237, Aberystwyth, Ceredigion, Wales

    Notes:

    Princess of North Wales. Also called, in Welsh, Siwan.

    From Leo van de Pas, in a posting to soc.genealogy.medieval, 23 Feb 1999:

    "I found the following about Joan bastard of England, after her death she was buried at Llanfaes but, at the dissolution of the monastery, her coffin was removed. In the 19th century it was discovered that it was being used as a horse trough. Rescued from this use, it was placed in Baron Hill Park, near Beaumaris in Anglesey. The most recent location is given as the Church of St. Mary and St. Nicholas in Beaumaris."

    Children:
    1. 3. Gwladus Ddu died in 1251 in Windsor, Berkshire, England.
    2. Ellen of Wales died before 24 Oct 1253.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  Hugh de Mortimer was born in in of Wigmore, Herefordshire, England (son of Hugh de Mortimer and (Unknown first wife of Hugh de Mortimer)); died on 26 Feb 1181.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Bef 29 Sep 1181

    Notes:

    "When Henry, Duke of Normandy (Henry II), made promises of great grants to Ranulph, Earl of Chester, in 1153, the fees of Hugh de Mortimer (and those of others) in Staffordshire were excepted. On succeeding to the throne in December 1154 Henry required from Mortimer Bridgnorth Castle, which had been in his hands for many years; he refused to surrender it, whereupon the King proceeded in person first to Cleobury, which he took and destroyed, 17 June 1155, and then to Bridgnorth, which was taken after several days' vigorous assault on 7 July. Some time before 1161 he or his father conceded to Foucarmont gifts made by Hugh and William de St. Germain. In 1167 he was fined £100 in Hants because he refused at the King's command to give up to one of his own knights certain animals taken in distraint when security was offered. He figures in the returns of knights' fees in Normandy of 1172 as owing service of 5 knights and holding himself 13 1/2 knights' fees. The foundation of Wigmore Abbey was completed before Hugh's death. He was also a benefactor to the Templars in Lincolnshire." [Complete Peerage IX:270-2, XIV:488]

    "Hugh (II) de Mortimer's rising was one of several against the new king at this time, largely prompted by Henry's demand for the return of alienated royal lands and castles. But resistance was unco-ordinated: there was no co-operation, for instance, between Mortimer and his neighbour Earl Roger of Hereford. It was at Easter 1155, according to the Battle Abbey chronicle, that Mortimer, 'estimating the king to be a mere boy and indignant at his activity' (Searle, 159–61), fortified Bridgnorth and refused to submit to royal orders. The king promptly placed Bridgnorth, Cleobury, and Wigmore under siege, surrounding Bridgnorth Castle with a rampart and ditch, so that Mortimer could not leave it. With no choice but to surrender, therefore, on 7 July he made his peace with the king, at an impressive assembly of lay and ecclesiastical magnates. He was treated lightly, for whereas the earldom of Hereford was allowed to lapse when Earl Roger died, also in 1155, Hugh de Mortimer soon recovered Bridgnorth and Wigmore (Cleobury had been destroyed), and retained the privileged status of a tenant-in-chief. The fact that King Henry was himself frequently active in Wales may subsequently have had a constraining effect on Mortimer's activities there. In any event, after 1155 he seems to have turned his attention to the affairs of Wigmore, and especially of its abbey." [Oxford Dictionary of National Biography]

    Hugh married Maud le Meschin. Maud (daughter of William Meschin and Cecily de Rumilly) was born in in of Skipton-in-Craven, Yorkshire, England; died after 1180. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  Maud le Meschin was born in in of Skipton-in-Craven, Yorkshire, England (daughter of William Meschin and Cecily de Rumilly); died after 1180.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Aft 6 Jul 1189

    Children:
    1. 4. Roger de Mortimer was born in in of Wigmore, Herefordshire, England; died before 19 Aug 1214; was buried in Wigmore Abbey, Herefordshire, England.

  3. 10.  Walkelin de Ferrers was born in in of Oakham, Rutland, England (son of Henry de Ferrers).
    Children:
    1. 5. Isabel de Ferrers died before 29 Apr 1252; was buried in Hospital of St. John the Baptist, Lechlade, Gloucestershire, England.

  4. 12.  Iorwerth Drwyndwn ap Owain Gwynedd (son of Owain Gwynedd, King of Gwynedd and Gwladus ferch Llywarch); died about 1174.

    Notes:

    Drwyndwn, "flatnose."

    Iorwerth married Margred ferch Madog. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  5. 13.  Margred ferch Madog (daughter of Madog ap Maredudd, Prince of Powys Fadog and (Unknown wife or mistress of Madog ap Maredudd)).

    Notes:

    Also called Marared of Powys.

    Children:
    1. 6. Llywelyn Fawr ap Iorwerth was born about 1173; died on 11 Apr 1240 in Aberconwy Abbey, Conwy, Wales; was buried in Aberconwy Abbey, Conwy, Wales.

  6. 14.  John, King of England was born about 27 Dec 1166 in Oxford, Oxfordshire, England (son of Henry II, King of England and Eleanor of Aquitaine, Queen Consort of France; Queen Consort of England); died on 19 Oct 1216 in Newark Castle, Newark, Nottinghamshire, England; was buried in Worcester Cathedral, Worcestershire, England.

    Notes:

    Nicknamed "Lackland".

    "With regard to the birthdate of John, there have been disagreements as to the exact date and year, because of discrepancies in the sources. This was recently discussed in detail in Lewis (2002), where the conclusion was reached that 1166 was more likely than 1167. A statement in the early thirteenth century that John received that name because he was born about the time of the feast of St. John (27 December) would, if true, indicate that date as a plausible date of birth [Ex chronico anonymi canonici, ut videtur, Laudensis, RHF 13, 678-9]. However, that source only indicates a birth on about that date ('circa festum S. Johannis natus fuit'), not on it." [Stewart Baldwin, The Henry Project]

    For at least part of his upbringing, he was raised in the remarkable household of his father Henry II's justiciar Ranulph de Glanville, along with, among others, the Walter brothers, nephews of Glanville's wife Bertha de Valognes. Theobald Walter would become, under John, chief butler of England and Ireland and the founder of enduring lordships in Munster and Leinster. Hubert Walter would become archbishop of Canterbury, Ranulph de Glanville's successor as justiciar of England, and then, in John's kingship, chancellor of England. Also raised and educated in the same household was Geoffrey fitz Peter, who would become John's justiciar.

    John married Clemence. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  7. 15.  Clemence

    Notes:

    In her daughter's obituary in the Tewkesbury Annals, she is called "Regina Clementina"; this is the only evidence for her name..

    "The identity of Clemence, mother of King John's illegitimate daughter Joan, is presently unknown. She is perhaps the same person as Clemence le Boteler, wife of Nicholas de Verdun., Knt. (died 1231), of Brandon (in Wolston), Warwickshire, Alton, Staffordshire, etc. In 1228 Nicholas and his wife, Clemence, were granted custody of the king's niece, Susanna, daughter of Llewelyn, Prince of North Wales, and his wife, Joan [see C.P.R. 1225-1232 (1903): 230; VCH Warwick 6 (1951): 273-280; Hagger Fortunes of a Norman Family (2001): 16 (chart), 68-69, 76]. If Clemence was Susanna's grandmother, it would explain her inclusion in the grant of Susanna's custody. Regardless, stronger evidence is needed before any firm conclusion can be drawn about a possible relationship between these families." [Royal Ancestry]

    Children:
    1. 7. Joan of England was born before 1190; died on 30 Mar 1236; was buried in Llanvaes, Anglesey, Wales.