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Robert de Ros

Male Abt 1172 - Bef 1226  (~ 54 years)


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Robert de Ros was born about 1170-1172 in Helmsley, Yorkshire, England (son of Everard de Ros and Roese Trussebut); died before 23 Dec 1226; was buried in Temple Church, London, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: 1172
    • Alternate death: 1227

    Notes:

    "Robert de Ros, who bore the unexplained nickname of Furfan or Furson, s. and h., a minor, was in ward to the King in 1185, when his lands were in the custody of Ranulf de Glanville. He had livery of the lands in 1190. In Normandy he was bailiff of the royal castellany of Bonneville sur Toques. As son-in-law of William the Lion, King of Scotland, he was of his escort into England, Nov. 1200, to do homage, and again in 1209. He appears to have obeyed the summons to muster at Porchester for an expedition to Normandy, May 1205. In Feb. 1205/6 he proposed to make a pilgrimage to Jerusalem. He was serving with the King in Ireland in 1210. In 1212 he had taken, or was believed to have taken, the 'habit of religion,' but in the following year was certainly in the King's employment. Sheriff of Cumberland, 1213-15. One of the 12 Barons named as guarantors in John's letters to the Archbishop of Canterbury, and the bishops with him, overseas, May and June 1213, on the lifting of the excommunication. In Nov. 1214 he was joint commissioner to preside at the doing of homage to William (de Forz), Count of Aumale. Although he had been so closely associated with the King, he was one of his most vigorous opponents in the matter of Magna Carta, and of the 25 elected to see that its provisions were observed; and Robert and his son were included in the Bull of excommunication, Jan. 1215/6. In Nov. 1217 he had returned to his allegiance, and was one of the escort of Alexander II to England; in 1218, and later, the Cumberland estates were confirmed to him. In 1221 he was one of the barons called upon for help in the siege of Skipsea Castle. He was one of the assessors of an Aid in Feb. 1224/5, and witnessed at Westminster the confirmation of Magna Carta and the Forest charter. He m. at Haddington, early in 1191, Isabel, widow of Robert de Brus (d. v.p.s. of Robert de Brus II), illegitimate da. of William the Lion, King of Scotland. He d., or, as a Templar, retired from secular life, before 23 Dec. 1226, when his son did homage for his lands." [Complete Peerage]

    Robert married Isabel of Scotland in 1191 in Haddington, East Lothian, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Robert de Ros was born in in of Wark, Northumberland, England; died before Nov 1269.
    2. William I de Ros was born after 1192 in of Helmsley, Yorkshire, England; died in 1258; was buried in Kirkham Priory, Yorkshire, England.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Everard de Ros was born before 1146 in of Helmsley, Yorkshire, England (son of Robert de Ros and Sybil de Valognes); died before 29 Sep 1183.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 1186

    Everard married Roese Trussebut. Roese (daughter of William de Trussebut and Albreda) was born about 1151; died before 1187. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Roese Trussebut was born about 1151 (daughter of William de Trussebut and Albreda); died before 1187.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1152
    • Alternate death: Aft 1185
    • Alternate death: Bef 29 Sep 1196

    Notes:

    Also called Roese de Warter. Henry James Young in George Eldridge (citation details below) calls her "coheir & in her issue sole heir of her brother Robert; lady of Ribston, Hunsingore & Walleford".

    Young also has her as a daughter of "Robert Trussebut or Trusbut, his brother Geoffrey's heir", this Robert himself a son of William (d. ~1175) and Albreda (d. >1200) Trussebut. Every other source we've seen has her as a daughter, not a granddaughter, of William and Albreda.

    Children:
    1. 1. Robert de Ros was born about 1170-1172 in Helmsley, Yorkshire, England; died before 23 Dec 1226; was buried in Temple Church, London, England.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Robert de Ros was born in in of Helmsley, Yorkshire, England (son of Piers de Ros and Adeline Espec); died in 1162.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 1163

    Notes:

    "Sometime constable, probably to the Count of Aumale, lord of Holderness." [Complete Peerage]

    Robert married Sybil de Valognes before 1145. Sybil (daughter of Roger de Valognes and Agnes fitz John) died after 1212; was buried in Nun Appleton Priory, Yorkshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Sybil de Valognes (daughter of Roger de Valognes and Agnes fitz John); died after 1212; was buried in Nun Appleton Priory, Yorkshire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Aft 1211

    Children:
    1. 2. Everard de Ros was born before 1146 in of Helmsley, Yorkshire, England; died before 29 Sep 1183.

  3. 6.  William de Trussebut was born in in of Wartre, Holderness, Yorkshire, England (son of William Trussebut); died about 1175.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Bef 1180

    William married Albreda. Albreda was born about 1135; died after 1200. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 7.  Albreda was born about 1135; died after 1200.

    Notes:

    Also called Audrey, etc. VCH Warwickshire ("Parishes: Morton Morrell", pp. 118-122) says her mother was "daughter and coheir of Robert Peverel," but this is sourced only to Dugdale.

    Ray Phair, post to soc.genealogy.medieval, 7 Jun 2002:

    Cris Nash and earlier Dick Ledyard asked who was the father of Aubreye (Albreda) de Harcourt (d. 1205), wife of William Trussebut?

    There are at least three versions:

    A) Bridges claimed her father was Aubrey ('Albricius') de Harcourt [1], without providing any evidence. So far, no record of his existence has been found. Clay accepted this version, rather than the next one, because it was presented earlier [2].

    B) Baker (according to Clay) and Eyton said her father was Rollo de Harcourt, without providing any evidence [2,3]. So far, no record of his existence has been found. Farrer and Sanders accepted this version; Clay dismissed it as without proof [4,2].

    C) Crouch, in a very brief note, proposed that her father was Ivo de Harcourt, a younger son of Robert fitz Anschetil, lord of Harcourt [5]. Ivo, who appeared possibly as early as c.1140, was alive in 1166, but may have died later that year [5,6].

    By two charters Aubreye gave land in "Brandestona" to Nuneaton priory, Warwickshire [2]. Clay has identified this location as Braunston, Northamptonshire, where Aubreye and her descendants are known to have held land; Round had earlier implied this was the location of her gift [2,7]. Crouch, on the other hand, thought it was Braunstone, Leicestershire; although based on more tentative evidence, it does provides a link to the family of Ivo de Harcourt. A descendant of Ivo's heir did later hold land there [8], but Crouch's version needs further study.

    [1] J. Bridges, "The history and antiquities of Northamptonshire", 1791, 1:26-7.

    [2] "Early Yorkshire charters", 10:8-11, 15-6, & nos. 7-9, 12, 1955, ed. C.T. Clay.

    [3] Clay said this appeared in G. Baker, "The history and antiquities of the county of Northampton", 1822-41, 1:268-9, which, unfortunately, is missing from the library. R.W. Eyton, "Antiquities of Shropshire", 9:67-9,75 (1859); he may have been familiar with Baker's work.

    [4] W. Farrer, "Feudal Cambridgeshire", 1920, pp.160-3; I.J. Sanders, "English baronies", 1960, p.19.

    [5] D. Crouch, "The Beaumont twins", 1986, pp. 123-7, 220-1, 237.

    [6] "The red book of exchequer", 3v, ed. H. Hall, 1896, 1:325,337; Pipe Roll Society publications [PRS] 9:68 (1888), 12:167 (1890); "Sir Christopher Hatton's book of seals", ed. L.C. Loyd and D.M. Stenton, 1950, pp.31-2.

    [7] PRS 35:27-8 (1913), ed. J.H. Round; "Rotuli litterarum clausarum", ed. T.D. Hardy, 1833-44, 1:24, 34; "Rotuli de oblatis et finibus", ed. T.D. Hardy, 1835, p.288; "The book of fees", 1920-31, 2:941, 945, 1288.

    [8] "Calendar of inquisitions post mortem", 1:nos.411, 776 (1904). Cf. W. Farrer, "Honors and knights fees", 2:329-334 (1924).

    Children:
    1. 3. Roese Trussebut was born about 1151; died before 1187.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  Piers de Ros was born in in of Roos, Holderness, Yorkshire, England; died before 1130.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 1130
    • Alternate death: Abt 1155

    Notes:

    Steward (dapifer) of the Count of Aumale, lord of Holderness.

    Piers married Adeline Espec before 1121. Adeline (daughter of William Espec) died before 1157. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  Adeline Espec (daughter of William Espec); died before 1157.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Bef 1158

    Notes:

    Also called Odelina. Early Yorkshire Charters volume 10 (citation details below) shows her to be a sister of Aubrey/Albreda, and therefore a daughter of William Espec. Boyer (citation details below) calls her the youngest of the three sisters and co-heirs of Walter Espec.

    Children:
    1. 4. Robert de Ros was born in in of Helmsley, Yorkshire, England; died in 1162.

  3. 10.  Roger de Valognes (son of Piers de Valognes and Aubrey de Rye); died about 1141.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Between 1141 and 1142

    Roger married Agnes fitz John. Agnes (daughter of John fitz Richard) died after 1184. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 11.  Agnes fitz John (daughter of John fitz Richard); died after 1184.

    Notes:

    Her birthdate is unknown, but Chris Phillips (citing Rosie Bevan and VCH Cambridgeshire VI: 177) points out in "Some corrections and additions to the Complete Peerage" that "Agnes was given land in Westley Waterless, Cambridgeshire, by Ralph de Tony before 1126".

    Children:
    1. 5. Sybil de Valognes died after 1212; was buried in Nun Appleton Priory, Yorkshire, England.

  5. 12.  William Trussebut

    Notes:

    "The [Trussebut] family descended from William Trussebut who, as Orderic records, was among those of ignoble parentage promoted by Henry I. He occurs in Normandy in 1126 and as castellan of Bonneville-sur-Touques in 1138. The supposition of Dugdale and others that he was son of Geoffrey son of Pain, the founder of Warter priory and holder of the manor of Market Weighton, cannot be acepted; but the succession of the Trussebut family to Market Weighton by right of succession from Geoffrey son of Pain, as recorded in a case of 1204, suggests that William Trussebut married Geoffrey's sister." [Early Yorkshire Families, citation details below.]

    Children:
    1. 6. William de Trussebut was born in in of Wartre, Holderness, Yorkshire, England; died about 1175.