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Ebel de Grandison

Male Abt 1144 - 1236  (~ 91 years)


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  • Name Ebel de Grandison 
    Alternate birth Abt 1140  of Grandson, Switzerland Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Born Abt 1144  [2
    Gender Male 
    Died Between 1235 and 1236  [2
    Alternate death Aft 1235  [1, 3
    Person ID I11844  Ancestry of PNH, TNH, and others | Ancestor of AP, Ancestor of DDB, Ancestor of DGH, Ancestor of EK, Ancestor of JTS, Ancestor of LDN, Ancestor of TNH, Ancestor of TWK
    Last Modified 23 May 2021 

    Father Barthelemy de Grandison,   b. Abt 1108,   d. 1158, Jerusalem Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 50 years) 
    Mother Jordane,   d. Aft 1157 
    Family ID F6922  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family (Unknown daughter of Amadeus I of Geneva),   d. Aft 1234 
    Children 
    +1. Pierre de Grandison,   b. Abt 1186,   d. 1258  (Age ~ 72 years)
    Last Modified 24 Jan 2016 
    Family ID F6911  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • Many genealogical sources identify this Ebel de Grandison, who was husband of a daughter of Amadeus I of Geneva, as a son of another Ebel de Grandison (claimed to have died about 1173) and his wife Jordane, the older Ebel a son of Barthélemy de Grandison who died about 1158, and whose wife is said to be unknown.

      David Williams (citation details below) points out that model traces back to the research of the 19th-century Swiss historian Louis de Charrière, who postulated that Barthélemy's son Ebel could not have lived much beyond 1177 and that therefore the Ebel who appears in documents after that date must have been a son. This hypothesis was rejected in the mid-20th century by Swiss historian and genealogist Olivier Dessemontet, who argued that evidence for an additional Ebel was nonexistent, and further pointed out that Charrière had based his argument on his misunderstanding of a particular Latin text. Williams's piece, cited below, takes stock of the de Grandison pedigree in light of this and argues convincingly that Jordane was the wife of Barthélemy, not of Barthélemy's son Ebel, and that Barthélemy's son Ebel and supposed grandson Ebel were in fact a single individual who lived from about 1144 to the mid-1230s.

  • Sources 
    1. [S1526] The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, Wife of Reverend John Owsley, Generations 1-15, Fourth Preliminary Edition, by Ronny O. Bodine and Bro. Thomas Spalding, Jr. 2013.

    2. [S5859] David Williams, "Ebel III and Ebal IV de Grandson." Foundations, journal of the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy, volume 13, 2021.

    3. [S145] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700 by Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr. 8th edition, William R. Beall & Kaleen E. Beall, eds. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2004, 2006, 2008.