Isabel de Vermandois

- Bef 1147

• Name	Isabel de Vermandois  [1, 2, 3]
  Gender	Female
  Death	Bef Jun 1147  [4]
  Alternate death	Bef Jul 1147  [5, 6]
  Person ID	I2053	Ancestry of PNH, TNH, and others
  Last Modified	20 Feb 2023

  
  

  Father	Hugues le Grand,   b. Abt 1057   d. 18 Oct 1101, Tarsus, Cilicia (Age ~ 44 years)
  Mother	Adèle de Vermandois   d. 1120
  Marriage	Abt 1080  [4, 7]
  Family ID	F2751	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family 1	Robert of Meulan,   b. Abt 1046, Beaumont-le-Roger, Eure, Normandy, France d. 5 Jun 1118 (Age ~ 72 years)
  Marriage	1096  [4, 5, 8]
  Children	+ 1. Isabel de Beaumont   d. Aft 1172 + 2. Maud of Meulan   d. Aft 1189 + 3. Waleran of Meulan,   b. 1104   d. 9 Apr 1166, Abbey St. Pierre, Preaux, Eure, Normandy, France (Age 62 years) + 4. Robert of Meulan,   b. 1104, Meulan, Île-de-France, France d. 5 Apr 1168 (Age 64 years)
  Family ID	F1788	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	28 Aug 2020

  
  

  Family 2	William II de Warenne,   b. Abt 1071   d. 11 May 1138 (Age ~ 67 years)
  Marriage	Aft 5 Jun 1118  [4, 5, 9]
  Children	+ 1. Gundred de Warenne   d. Aft 1156 + 2. Ada de Warenne   d. 1178 + 3. William III de Warenne,   b. Abt 1119, Warwick, Warwickshire, England d. Abt 7 Jan 1148, Laodicea, Anatolia (Age ~ 29 years) + 4. Reynold de Warenne,   b. Abt 1126, of Attlebridge, Norfolk, England d. Aft 1179, Lewes Priory, Sussex, England (Age ~ 54 years)
  Family ID	F4959	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	11 Mar 2017

  
  

• Notes

  Countess of Leicester. Also called Elizabeth de Vermandois. Royal Ancestry says she was living c. 1138 and that she died "13 (or 17) February, sometime before June 1147, when her son, William de Warenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey, left on crusade." Several sources say she died in the priory of Lewes, Sussex. Via her two husbands and thirteen children, descent from her is so common among modern people with traceable medieval ancestry that Douglas Richardson once jokingly asserted the existence of an exclusive lineage organization called the Society of Non-Descendants of Isabel de Vermandois. Of the 19 root people in this database with demonstrable descent from any monarch, only three would be eligible for membership in such a group.

  
  

• Sources

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