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Isabel de Vermandois

Female Abt 1081 - Bef 1147  (< 66 years)

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  • Name Isabel de Vermandois  [1, 2, 3]
    Birth Abt 1081  [4
    Gender Female
    Alternate death Bef Jul 1147  [5, 6
    Death Bef Jun 1147  [7
    Person ID I2053  Ancestry of PNH, TNH, and others | Ancestor of AP, Ancestor of DDB, Ancestor of EK, Ancestor of GFS, Ancestor of GR, Ancestor of JMF, Ancestor of KL, Ancestor of LD, Ancestor of LDN, Ancestor of LMW, Ancestor of TNH, Ancestor of TSW, Ancestor of TWK
    Last Modified 16 Jun 2026

    Father Hugues le Grand,   b. Abt 1057   d. 18 Oct 1101, Tarsus, Cilicia Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 44 years)
    Mother Adèle de Vermandois,   b. Abt 1065   d. 1120 (Age 55 years)
    Marriage Abt 1080  [7, 8
    Family ID F2751  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Robert of Meulan,   b. Abt 1046, Beaumont-le-Roger, Eure, Normandy, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 5 Jun 1118 (Age 72 years)
    Marriage 1096  [5, 7, 9
    Children 
    +1. Isabel de Beaumont   d. Aft 1172
    +2. Maud of Meulan   d. Aft 1189
    +3. Waleran of Meulan,   b. 1104   d. 9 Apr 1166 (Age 62 years)
    +4. Robert of Meulan,   b. 1104, Meulan, Île-de-France, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 5 Apr 1168 (Age 64 years)
    Family ID F1788  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 16 Jun 2026

    Family 2 William II de Warenne,   b. Abt 1071   d. 11 May 1138 (Age 67 years)
    Marriage Aft 5 Jun 1118  [5, 7, 10
    Children 
    +1. Gundred de Warenne   d. Aft 1156
    +2. Ada de Warenne   d. 1178
    +3. William III de Warenne,   b. Abt 1119, Warwick, Warwickshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Abt 7 Jan 1148, Laodicea, Anatolia Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 29 years)
    +4. Reynold de Warenne,   b. Abt 1126, of Attlebridge, Norfolk, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Aft 1179, Lewes Priory, Sussex, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age > 54 years)
    Family ID F4959  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 11 Mar 2017

  • Notes 
    • Countess of Leicester. Also called Elizabeth de Vermandois.

      Royal Ancestry says she was living c. 1138 and that she died "13 (or 17) February, sometime before June 1147, when her son, William de Warenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey, left on crusade." Several sources say she died in the priory of Lewes, Sussex.

      Via her two husbands and thirteen children, descent from her is so common among modern people with traceable medieval ancestry that Douglas Richardson once jokingly asserted the existence of an exclusive lineage organization called the Society of Non-Descendants of Isabel de Vermandois. Of the 32 root people in this database with demonstrable descent from any monarch, only two would be eligible for membership in such a group — both of them individuals whose < i>only known medieval "gateway ancestor" is the early Connecticut settler Alice Freeman, whose long traceable medieval ancestry stays firmly in the minor gentry until finally connecting to the later Anglo-Saxon kings.

  • Sources 
    1. [S341] Nathaniel L. Taylor, "Cassandra Elizabeth Taylor's royal descents.".

    2. [S4384] George Eldridge, Hydrographer, and Eliza Jane His Wife: Their Ancestors and Their Descendants by Henry James Young. Carlisle, Pennsylvania: 1982.

    3. [S4342] Norfolk Families by Walter Rye. Two volumes, 1911-13.

    4. [S49] Genealogics by Leo Van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes and Leslie Mahler., calls her "Elisabeth de Vermandois".

    5. [S128] The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant ed. Vicary Gibbs, H. A. Doubleday, Duncan Warrand, Howard de Walden, Geoffrey H. White and R. S. Lea. 2nd edition. 14 volumes (1-13, but volume 12 spanned two books), London, The St. Catherine Press, 1910-1959. Volume 14, "Addenda & Corrigenda," ed. Peter W. Hammond, Gloucestershire, Sutton Publishing, 1998.

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    7. [S142] Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families by Douglas Richardson. Salt Lake City, 2013.

    8. [S145] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700 by Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr. 8th edition, William R. Beall & Kaleen E. Beall, eds. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2004, 2006, 2008., "bef. 1080", elsewhere "aft. 1067".

    9. [S145] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700 by Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr. 8th edition, William R. Beall & Kaleen E. Beall, eds. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2004, 2006, 2008.

    10. [S1016] Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell by Carl Boyer III. Santa Clarita, California, 2001., year only.