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Alice de la Plaunche

Female - Aft 1302

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  • Name Alice de la Plaunche 
    Gender Female 
    Died Aft 1302  [1, 2
    Alternate death Aft 1303  [3
    Alternate death Aft 1308  [4
    Alternate death Aft 1309  [5
    Person ID I2387  Ancestry of PNH, TNH, and others | Ancestor of DGH, Ancestor of DK, Ancestor of JTS, Ancestor of TNH, Ancestor of TSW, Ancestor of TWK, Ancestor of UKL
    Last Modified 10 Jan 2018 

    Father William de la Plaunche,   b. of Heuchin, Pas-de-Calais, France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Mother Ælide 
    Family ID F5971  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family John de Montfort,   b. Abt 1265, of Beaudesert, Warwickshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 11 May 1296  (Age ~ 31 years) 
    Married Bef 28 Mar 1287  [4, 5
    +1. Peter de Montfort,   b. of Beaudesert, Warwickshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Between 11 Dec 1367 and 24 Jan 1370
    +2. Elizabeth de Montfort,   b. Bef 1297,   d. Aft 1367  (Age > 72 years)
    Last Modified 15 Jun 2018 
    Family ID F4691  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • From Chris Phillips, Some Corrections and Additions to The Complete Peerage:

      Alice was a kinswoman of Queen Eleanor, presumably through a descent of her father from the queen's Fiennes cousins [J. C. Parsons, The Court and Household of Eleanor of Castile in 1290 (Toronto, 1977), pp. 48-50]. John and Alice were married by 28 March 1287 [ibid., p. 50, citing P.R.O. SC 1/45/46], and Alice was still living in Easter Term 1309 [M. S. Arnold, ed., Select Cases of Trespass from the King's Court, 1307-1399, vol. 1 (Selden Society 100, 1985), pp. 126, 127].

      Alice is one of a group of four "damsels" of the chamber who appear frequently throughout Queen Eleanor's wardrobe account book for 1289-90 and in one entry are described as kinswomen of the queen. That Alice's kinship came through her father is indicated by a reference in 1286 to the lord (dominus) de la Plaunche as a kinsman of the queen [Parsons, loc. cit., p. 50, citing P.R.O. E 101/352/4, m. 4]. A descent from the queen's Fiennes cousins is suggested by the later presence of a family known as "de Fiennes de la Plaunche" in the Boulonnais, bearing arms similar to those of the Fiennes family.

  • Sources 
    1. [S893] John P. Ravilious, 12 Sep 2002, post to soc.genealogy.medieval.

    2. [S1526] The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, Wife of Reverend John Owsley, Generations 1-15, Fourth Preliminary Edition, by Ronny O. Bodine and Bro. Thomas Spalding, Jr. 2013.

    3. [S128] The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant ed. Vicary Gibbs, H. A. Doubleday, Duncan Warrand, Howard de Walden, Geoffrey H. White and R. S. Lea. 2nd edition. 14 volumes (1-13, but volume 12 spanned two books), London, The St. Catherine Press, 1910-1959. Volume 14, "Addenda & Corrigenda," ed. Peter W. Hammond, Gloucestershire, Sutton Publishing, 1998.

    4. [S72] Chris Phillips, Some Corrections and Additions to The Complete Peerage.

    5. [S142] Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families by Douglas Richardson. Salt Lake City, 2013.