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Helen of Galloway

Female - Aft 1245

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  • Name Helen of Galloway  [1, 2, 3, 4
    Gender Female 
    Death Aft 21 Nov 1245  [1, 5, 6, 7, 8
    Burial Brackley, Northamptonshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 5, 8
    Person ID I3119  Ancestry of PNH, TNH, and others | Ancestor of AP, Ancestor of DDB, Ancestor of DGH, Ancestor of DK, Ancestor of JMF, Ancestor of JTS, Ancestor of LD, Ancestor of LMW, Ancestor of TNH, Ancestor of TSW, Ancestor of TWK, Ancestor of UKL, Ancestor of WPF, Ancestor of XYZ
    Last Modified 12 Oct 2018 

    Father Alan fitz Roland   d. Abt 2 Feb 1234 
    Mother (Unknown daughter of Roger de Lacy) 
    Marriage Between 1200 and 1205  [5
    Family ID F876  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Roger de Quincy,   b. Abt 1195   d. 25 Apr 1264 (Age ~ 69 years) 
    +1. Elizabeth de Quincy   d. Bef 4 May 1303
    +2. Ellen de Quincy,   b. Abt 1222, Winchester, Hampshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Bef 20 Aug 1296 (Age ~ 74 years)
    +3. Margaret de Quincy,   b. Bef 1223   d. Bef 12 Mar 1281 (Age < 58 years)
    Family ID F4157  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 16 Jun 2018 

  • Notes 
    • Also called Ellen.

      Alan Fitz Roland, often called Alan of Galloway, married three times. His first wife was a daughter of Roger of Chester, who is often called Roger de Lacy. His second wife was Margaret of Scotland, daughter of David, Earl of Huntington. His third wife was a daughter of Hugh de Lacy, 1st Earl of Ulster.

      The presence of two marriages to daughters of men called de Lacy, both of which daughters' names have been lost, has created understandable confusion. Many online sources show Alan Fitz Roland's daughter Ellen as a daughter of his third marriage. In fact she was a daughter of his first; her maternal grandfather was Roger of Chester, also called Roger de Lacy -- not Hugh de Lacy. To the best of our knowledge, Alan Fitz Roland's third marriage was without issue.

  • Sources 
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    2. [S977] The Blackmans of Knight's Creek: Ancestors and Descendants of George and Maria (Smith) Blackman by Henry James Young. Carlisle, Pennsylvania: 1980.

    3. [S1016] Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell by Carl Boyer III. Santa Clarita, California, 2001.

    4. [S2338] Bruce McAndrew, "The Collective Memory in Scottish Heraldry: Fiction, Fact, and Fancy." Foundations 10:62, 2018.

    5. [S142] Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families by Douglas Richardson. Salt Lake City, 2013.

    6. [S53] The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna Charta, 1215, and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America During the Early Colonial Years by Frederick Lewis Weis. Fifth edition, with additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr. and William R. Beal. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 1999.

    7. [S145] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700 by Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr. 8th edition, William R. Beall & Kaleen E. Beall, eds. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2004, 2006, 2008.

    8. [S1526] The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, Wife of Reverend John Owsley, Generations 1-15, Fourth Preliminary Edition, by Ronny O. Bodine and Bro. Thomas Spalding, Jr. 2013.