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Roger de Mortimer

Male - Bef 1214

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  • Name Roger de Mortimer 
    Born of Wigmore, Herefordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 4
    Gender Male 
    Died Bef 19 Aug 1214  [2, 3, 4, 5
    Buried Wigmore Abbey, Herefordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [2, 5
    Person ID I3300  Ancestry of PNH, TNH, and others | Ancestor of AP, Ancestor of DDB, Ancestor of DGH, Ancestor of DK, Ancestor of EK, Ancestor of JTS, Ancestor of LDN, Ancestor of LMH, Ancestor of TNH, Ancestor of TSW, Ancestor of TWK, Ancestor of UKL, Ancestor of WPF
    Last Modified 20 Apr 2018 

    Father Hugh de Mortimer,   b. of Wigmore, Herefordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 26 Feb 1181 
    Mother Maud le Meschin,   b. of Skipton-in-Craven, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1180 
    Family ID F1765  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Isabel de Ferrers,   d. Bef 29 Apr 1252 
    +1. Ralph de Mortimer,   b. of Wigmore, Herefordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 6 Aug 1246
    +2. Joan de Mortimer,   d. 1225
    Last Modified 7 Dec 2015 
    Family ID F2125  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • Some sources (including Leo van de Pas) say that this Roger de Mortimer was married twice, once to a Millicent de Ferrers, parentage unknown, and once to Isabel de Ferrers, daughter of Walkelin de Ferrers. In this model, Ralph is a son of Isabel whereas Joan is a daughter of Millicent. We have been unable to find a plausible source for any of this. The Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, Complete Peerage, Ancestral Roots, etc., all show this Roger de Mortimer married only once, to Isabel.

      "He was a benefactor of Gloucester Abbey, of Kington, St. Michael, Wilts, of Cwmhir, of Jumièges, and of Saint-Victor-en-Caux. Between 1182 and 1189 he attested at Rouen a charter of Henry II to the monks of Barbey (diocese of Bayeux). In 1191, upon a charge of conspiring with the Welsh against the King, he was forced to surrender his castles and to abjure the country for three years. In April 1194 he was in England again, and witnessed a charter of Richard I, after his second Coronation at Winchester. Roger was a strenuous Lord Marcher, and in 1195 drove the sons of Cadwallon out of Maelienydd, and restored Cwmaron Castle; but next year Rhys, Prince of South Wales, defeated a well-equipped force of cavalry and foot under Mortimer and Hugh de Say, of Richard's Castle, with much slaughter, near Radnor. He was one of the magnates who refused to serve personally in France in 1201, but his fine was remitted. On 1 April 1207 he witnessed a charter of the King at Montfort-sur-Risle, and he appears to have been with John at Bonport in July following. On the loss of Normandy in 1204 Roger adhered to John and forfeited his Norman lands. In 1205 he landed at Dieppe, and being captured by John de Rouvray, bailiff of Caux, was compelled to pay a ransom of 1,000 marks. He was in England again by June 1207, when he was directed to hand Knighton Castle to the custody of a successor; in that year his wife Isabel had a grant of Oakham for life. In 1210 some of his knights served in the King's invasion of Ireland. In 1212 he proffered 3,000 marks for the marriage of the heir of Walter de Beauchamp, to whom he married his daughter Joan. In May 1213 he was one of the sponsors for John's good faith in his reconciliation with Archbishop Langton at the command of the Pope." [Complete Peerage]

      "To the Wigmore chronicler Roger (II) de Mortimer was 'as befitted his years, gay, full of youth and inconstant of heart, and especially somewhat headstrong'. He had served Henry II faithfully during the rebellion of the king's sons in 1173–4, but at the time of his father's death he was in King Henry's prison, because in 1179 his men had killed Cadwallon ap Madog, the ruler of Maelienydd, when the latter was returning from court with a royal safe conduct. He may not have been released until 1182. Roger's conflicts with the Welsh would persist throughout his life, as he struggled to establish his rule over the middle march of Wales. In 1195 he brought Maelienydd under his control, rebuilding the castle at Cymaron. A grant to the abbey of Cwm-hir in Powys in 1199, commemorating 'our men who died in the conquest of Maelienydd', points to casualties as well as achievement (in 1196 his forces were among those heavily defeated at Radnor by the Lord Rhys of Deheubarth), but in 1202 he could be described as supreme in central Wales. [...] In 1191 he was accused by William de Longchamp, the justiciar, of having entered into an unexplained conspiracy with the Welsh against the king, and was forced to abjure the realm, though his exile was much shorter than the three years reported by Richard of Devizes. It is possible that he had become a supporter of Count John, Richard I's brother. But if this was so, he soon transferred his allegiance back to the king, for it was with royal support that he attacked Maelienydd in 1195. However, he later served in Normandy under John as king, and in 1205 was captured when trying to occupy Dieppe, subsequently paying a ransom of 1000 marks. Roger de Mortimer remained loyal to John for the rest of his life. [...] Being overcome by ill health, he transferred his lands to his son, and by 19 August 1214 he was dead. He was buried at Wigmore Abbey. He had at first been on bad terms with the canons, and tried to revoke grants made to them by his father, until the solemnity with which they commemorated Hugh's anniversary reconciled him to them." [Oxford Dictionary of National Biography]

  • Sources 
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    2. [S128] The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant ed. Vicary Gibbs, H. A. Doubleday, Duncan Warrand, Howard de Walden, Geoffrey H. White and R. S. Lea. 2nd edition. 14 volumes (1-13, but volume 12 spanned two books), London, The St. Catherine Press, 1910-1959. Volume 14, "Addenda & Corrigenda," ed. Peter W. Hammond, Gloucestershire, Sutton Publishing, 1998.

    3. [S145] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700 by Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr. 8th edition, William R. Beall & Kaleen E. Beall, eds. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2004, 2006, 2008.

    4. [S1016] Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell by Carl Boyer III. Santa Clarita, California, 2001.

    5. [S1526] The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, Wife of Reverend John Owsley, Generations 1-15, Fourth Preliminary Edition, by Ronny O. Bodine and Bro. Thomas Spalding, Jr. 2013.