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Frederick Tilney

Male 1330 - Aft 1378  (~ 59 years)


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  • Name Frederick Tilney  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5
    Birth Between 1320 and 1330  of Boston, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [6, 7, 8, 9
    Gender Male 
    Death Aft 1378  [6
    Person ID I4071  Ancestry of PNH, TNH, and others | Ancestor of AP, Ancestor of JTS
    Last Modified 4 Mar 2022 

    Family Margery   d. Bef 1415 
    Children 
    +1. Alice Tilney   d. Aft 1431
    +2. Philip Tilney,   b. Between 1345 and 1355, of Boston, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Between 4 Apr 1394 and Feb 1398 (Age ~ 49 years)
    Family ID F2800  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 16 Jun 2018 

  • Notes 
    • Entertainingly, Pishey Thompson's 1820/1856 history of Boston, Lincolnshire traces this Frederick Tilney's ancestry back to a Norman great-great-great grandfather at the time of Edward the Confessor named...wait for it...Frodo. More believable is the research of SGM regular John Watson reproduced below.

      John Watson (citation details below):

      His forebears probably originated in the village of Tilney, Norfolk. He may have been the son of a John de Tilney who occurs in the subsidy rolls for Boston in 1333 (Thompson, 374). In 1342, a John Tilney is mentioned in the Close Rolls as a collector of wool in Lincoln (CCR, Ed. 3, vi, 537), some of those in the same record were merchants of Boston. Frederick de Tilney of Boston, merchant, was a member of the Corpus Christi Guild of Boston in 1349, (Thompson, 374) which I think would place his birth date some time between 1320 and 1330. The first official record I can find of him is in January 1359, when William de Spayne and Frederick de Tylneye were elected as collectors of customs in the town and port of Boston (CPR, Ed. 3, xi, 320). In July 1360 they delivered 240 pounds into the exchequer (CCR, Ed. 3, xi, 45) and in August 1360 they were requested to purvey 4,000 stokfissh, called 'winterfissh' to Southampton for the royal household (CPR, Ed. 3, xi, 453). In February 1363, Frederick was appointed collector of customs in Boston and places along the coast between Grimsby, Lincolnshire and Blakeney, Nofolk (CFR, vii, 252). In 1369, the staple of Lincoln was transferred to Boston and Frederic de Tilney was the first mayor of the staple (VCH Lincs, ii, 320). In October 1372 Frederick de Tylneye and William de Spaigne were again appointed as collectors of customs and duties on wool, hides and cloth in the ports near Boston (CFR, viii, 187).

      Between November 1363 and December 1377 Frederick served on several commissions of wallis and fossatis, commissions of the peace and a commission of oyer and terminer in Lincolnshire usually in the company of William de Spaigne [CPR]. From September 1372 to May 1378, Frederick Tilney appears in various records of property transactions in Boston and the manor of Thetford in Norfolk. In June 1376 Frederick de Tilney of Boston appointed his son Philip de Tilney to deliver seisin of the manor of Thetford to trustees (DD/4P/4/12). In November 1377 he was appointed deputy butler in Boston (CPR, Ric. 2, i, 67). The last record I can find of him is in 1378 and I assume that he died some time shortly afterwards. Despite numerous references in secondary works calling him Sir Frederick Tilney I have been unable to find any contemporary record where he is called a knight.

      References:
      Calendars of Patent Rolls, Close Rolls, Fine Rolls, Papal Registers,
      etc.
      Pishey Thompson, History and Antiquities of Boston (1856)

  • Sources 
    1. [S1327] The Antiquities of Warwickshire, Illustrated, from Records, Leiger-books, Manuscripts, Charters, Evidences, Tombes, and Armes, Beautified with Maps, Prospects, and Portraictures by William Dugdale. Second edition, revised by William Thomas. London: John Osborn and Thomas Longman, 1730.

    2. [S1352] History of the Parish of Ormsby-cum-Ketsby, in the Hundred of Hill and County of Lincoln by W. O. Massingberd. Lincoln: James Williamson, 1893.

    3. [S1379] A Brief Account of the Skipwiths of Newbold, Metheringham, and Prestwould by Fulwar Skipwith. Tunbridge Wells: William Brackett, 1867.

    4. [S1520] The History and Antiquities of the County of Leicester by John Nichols. London, 1795-1815.

    5. [S4342] Norfolk Families by Walter Rye. Two volumes, 1911-13.

    6. [S1351] John Watson, 15 Feb 2013, post to soc.genealogy.medieval.

    7. [S1378] The Royal Descents of the Fosters of Moulton and the Mathesons of Shinness & Lochalsh by William Edward Foster. London: Phillimore and Company, 1912., place only.

    8. [S1519] Adrian Channing, 6 Jan 2000, post to soc.genealogy.medieval., place only.

    9. [S76] The Oxford Dictionary of National Biography. Oxford University Press, 2004-ongoing., place only.