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Reynold de Lucy

Male - Abt 1199

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  • Name Reynold de Lucy  [1
    Gender Male 
    Death Abt Jan 1199  [2
    Siblings 6 siblings 
    Person ID I5497  Ancestry of PNH, TNH, and others | Ancestor of JMF, Ancestor of JTS, Ancestor of TWK
    Last Modified 6 Jan 2018 

    Father Richard de Lucy,   b. Between 1105 and 1110, Luce, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 14 Jul 1179, Lesnes Abbey, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age ~ 74 years) 
    Mother Rohese de Boulogne,   b. of Carshalton, Epsom, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Bef 30 May 1151 
    Marriage Between 1130 and 1135  [3
    Family ID F2158  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Amabel Fitz William   d. Bef 1201 
    Marriage Bef 1162  [1
    +1. Richard de Lucy,   b. of Egremont, Cumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1213
    +2. Cecily de Lucy   d. Aft 1230
    +3. Cecily de Lucy
    Family ID F5715  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 3 Jun 2016 

  • Notes 
    • "Reynold de Lucy, ancestor of this family, was probably a near kinsman of the great justiciar Richard de Luci. He was associated with the county of Cumberland as early as 1158. From 1168 to 1175 he was in charge of the Honour of Peverel of Nottingham; and was keeper of Nottingham Castle when it was taken and burnt by Earl Ferrers in the rebellion of 1174. In 1181 he was in Ivry. In 1187, he escorted Henry II's granddaughter, daughter of Henry the Lion of Saxony, from Southampton to the Continent. He was present at the Coronation of Richard I in September 1189." [Complete Peerage]

      That Reynold / Reginald de Lucy was a son of Richard de Lucy the justiciar has been shown by Rosie Bevan and Peter G. M. Dale in their paper "Reginald de Lucy, Son of Richard de Lucy, King's Justiciar: New Perspectives" (citation details below), in which they transcribe a copy of the original charter of gift by Richard de Lucy to the church of Holy Trinity, London of 20 shillings rent from his vill of Newington, Kent, for the soul of his wife Rose, witnesses to which include "Geoffrey de Lucy and Reginald his brother." This copy was "found in a folio entitled A Collection of Deeds and Seals comprising copies of charters and seals commissioned by the English antiquary, Elias Ashmole", and the authors carefully document its provenance and connection to the original, which probably perished in the fire in Elias Ashmole's rooms in Middle Temple in 1679.

      Bevan and Dale also opine that the 1199 death date given for Reginald / Reynold de Lucy may actually be that of his son Reginald, and that this Reginald may have died earlier.

  • Sources 
    1. [S1310] Rosie Bevan and Peter G. M. Dale, "Reginald de Lucy, Son of Richard de Lucy, King's Justiciar: New Perspectives." Foundations 8:53, 2016.

    2. [S128] The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant ed. Vicary Gibbs, H. A. Doubleday, Duncan Warrand, Howard de Walden, Geoffrey H. White and R. S. Lea. 2nd edition. 14 volumes (1-13, but volume 12 spanned two books), London, The St. Catherine Press, 1910-1959. Volume 14, "Addenda & Corrigenda," ed. Peter W. Hammond, Gloucestershire, Sutton Publishing, 1998.

    3. [S142] Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families by Douglas Richardson. Salt Lake City, 2013.