William de Say

- 1144

• Name	William de Say
  Gender	Male
  Death	Aug 1144	Burwell, Cambridgeshire, England   [1, 2, 3, 4]
  Alternate death	Aug 1147  [5]
  Alternate death	Abt 1155  [6]
  Siblings	1 sibling
  + 1. William de Say   d. Aug 1144, Burwell, Cambridgeshire, England ▻ Beatrice de Mandeville + 2. Agnes de Beaumont ▻ Richard du Hommet
  Person ID	I5687	Ancestry of PNH, TNH, and others | Ancestor of AP, Ancestor of DDB, Ancestor of DGH, Ancestor of DK, Ancestor of JTS, Ancestor of LD, Ancestor of LDN, Ancestor of LMW, Ancestor of TNH, Ancestor of TSW, Ancestor of TWK, Ancestor of UKL
  Last Modified	31 Aug 2020

  
  

  Father	Jordan de Say,   b. of Aunay-sur-Odon, Calvados, France
  Mother	Lucy de Rumilly
  Family ID	F5573	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family	Beatrice de Mandeville,   b. Abt 1105   d. Bef 19 Apr 1197, Rickling, Saffron, Essex, England (Age ~ 92 years)
  Children	+ 1. Geoffrey de Say,   b. of Edmonton, Middlesex, England d. Bef 19 May 1214 + 2. William de Say,   b. Bef 1140, of Kimbolton, Huntingdonshire, England d. Bef 1 Aug 1177 (Age < 37 years)
  Family ID	F1124	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	15 Jun 2018

  
  

• Notes

  Allegedly killed at the siege of Burwell Castle. But: "Complete Peerage, vol. 11, p. 464, notes that Henry of Huntingdon says he and Geoffrey de Mandeville, earl of Essex, were killed in August 1144, but note (f) summarises evidence that William survived Geoffrey (who did not die until September 1144). Keats-Rohan, Domesday Descendants, p. 681, refers to the same evidence as proving his survival 'by a few years', and dates his death to c. 1155 (although elsewhere she repeats the traditional date)." [Some Corrections and Additions to the Complete Peerage]

  
  

• Sources

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