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John Chichester

Male 1365 - Bef 1399  (< 33 years)

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  • Name John Chichester  [1
    Born 1365  [2
    Gender Male 
    Died Bef 1399  [3
    Person ID I8057  Ancestry of PNH, TNH, and others | Ancestor of DDB, Ancestor of TNH, Ancestor of TWK
    Last Modified 4 Mar 2020 

    Family Thomasine Raleigh,   d. 2 Aug 1402 
    Married 1384  [2
    +1. John Chichester,   b. 1386, of Raleigh in Pilton, Devon, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 14 Dec 1437  (Age 51 years)
    Last Modified 4 Mar 2020 
    Family ID F4642  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • "John I Chichester married in about 1365 Thomasine de Raleigh (d.1402), daughter and heiress of Sir John De Raleigh. He was lord of the manors of Treverbin in Cornwall and of Beggerskewish and Donwer in Somerset. According to Sir Alexander Chichester, Bart., he was the son of Sir Roger Chichester, who was knighted in 1346 at the Siege of Calais and later fought at the Battle of Poitiers in 1356. According to the Heralds' Visitation of Devon his father was John Chichester, 7th in descent from Walleran de Cirencester alias Chichester, himself descended from a brother of Robert of Chichester, Bishop of Exeter in 1155-1160. According to the Ledger Book of Tor Abbey, in 1237 Walleran did homage to William de Raleigh for the manor of South Pool." [Wikipedia]

      In fact, of the three different published heralds' visitations of Devon, only one says anything about the John Chichester who married Thomasine Raleigh -- J. L. Vivian's notoriously squirrely The Visitations of the County of Devon, Comprising the Heralds' Visitations of 1531, 1564, & 1620 (1895). What Wikipedia doesn't mention is that Vivian gives both possible ancestries on the same page, "for comparison", the one in Alexander P. B. Chichester's book (citation details below), which he credits, and also the other, which he attributes to "Harl. MS. 1538, fo. 256, and the College of Arms."

      Alexander P. B. Chichester's is as follows:

      Richard de Cicester, went to the Holy Land with King Richard

      Robert de Cicester, m. Petronilla

      Richard de Cicester, brother of Robert de Cicester, bishop of York; Richard m. Elizabeth

      Roger de Cicester, accompanied Edward I to Gascony

      Roger de Cicester, in the French and Scottish wars with Edward III

      Roger de Cicester, knighted after the siege of Calais

      John Chichester, m. Thomasine Raleigh

      The College of Arms version is as follows, assuming that Vivian transcribed it correctly:

      Waleran to Cirencester alias Chichester, as described by Wikipedia above

      John de Cirencester

      John de Cirencester

      Thomas Chichester, m. Alice de Rotomago

      William Chichester

      John Chichester

      Richard Chichester

      John Chichester

      John Chichester, m. Thomasine Raleigh

  • Sources 
    1. [S699] The Visitations of the County of Devon, Comprising the Heralds' Visitations of 1531, 1564, & 1620, with additions by J. L. Vivian. Devon: 1895.

    2. [S3784] History of the Family of Chichester, from A. D. 1086-1870 by Alexander Palmer Bruce Chichester. London: J. C. Hotton, 1871.

    3. [S145] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700 by Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr. 8th edition, William R. Beall & Kaleen E. Beall, eds. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2004, 2006, 2008.