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Thomas de Marle

Male Abt 1060 - 1130  (~ 69 years)

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  • Name Thomas de Marle  [1
    Birth Abt 1060  [2
    Gender Male 
    Death Between 1129 and 1130  [2, 3
    Person ID I8193  Ancestry of PNH, TNH, and others | Ancestor of AP, Ancestor of DDB, Ancestor of DGH, Ancestor of DK, Ancestor of EK, Ancestor of JMF, Ancestor of JTS, Ancestor of LDN, Ancestor of LMW, Ancestor of TNH, Ancestor of TSW, Ancestor of TWK, Ancestor of UKL, Ancestor of WPF
    Last Modified 6 Jan 2018 

    Father Enguerrand I de Coucy,   b. Abt 1035   d. Abt 1116 (Age ~ 81 years) 
    Mother Ade de Roucy 
    Marriage Bef 1060  [2
    Divorce Yes, date unknown  [2
    Family ID F5894  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Ida de Hainaut,   b. Abt 1085   d. Aft 1101 (Age ~ 17 years) 
    Marriage Abt 1100  [2
    +1. Basilie de Coucy   d. Aft 1156
    Family ID F811  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 10 Aug 2019 

    Family 2 Mélisende de Crecy   d. Aft 1147 
    Marriage Abt 1102  [2
    +1. Millicent de Coucy   d. Aft 1181
    +2. Robert de Coucy   d. 19 Jul 1191
    +3. Enguerrand II de Coucy,   b. Abt 1110   d. Abt 1147, near Laodicea, Anatolia Find all individuals with events at this location (Age ~ 37 years)
    Family ID F5438  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 30 May 2019 

  • Notes 
    • Also called Thomas de Coucy. Count of Amiens; lord of Coucy and Marle. "A notorious knight brigand."

      From Leo van de Pas's site:

      Thomas was lord of Coucy, Boves, Marle, La Fère, Crépy and Vervins. There was some doubt as to whether Enguerrand I was really his father (he had repudiated Thomas' mother over her adultery), and it appears that Enguerrand detested his son and sought to disinherit him.

      Before 1095 Thomas developed a reputation for rapacious cruelty. In April 1096 he joined the first crusade with his father and alongside the notorious Emicho of Leiningen, persecutor of the Rhineland Jews. He fought with great courage in a number of battles: Nicea (June 1097), Dorylaeum (July 1097), Al-Bara (December 1097), Antioch (June 1098), and Jerusalem in July 1099 he was one of the first Crusaders to enter the city.

      Thomas may have been marked by the cross, but he could not switch off the elemental ferocity that had driven him, and many of his comrades, to the gates of the Holy City. Returning to his country with little to show for such a long crusade, Thomas resumed his pillaging and devastation of the regions around Laon, from Amiens to Reims. He was even excommunicated by the pope during a council held in Beauvais in 1114.

      In October 1130 he was severely wounded by Raoul I 'the Valiant', comte de Vermandois, during the siege of Coucy ordered by King Louis VI, who wanted to put an end to the ravages of his vassal.

      Thomas died of his wounds on 9 November 1130. He was buried under the tower of the abbatial church of Nogent-sous-Coucy, and his body remained there until 3 April 1219, when it was moved to the church built by his grandson Enguerrand III. The chronicler of the time, Guibert de Nogent, abbot of the Benedictine Abbey of Nogent-sous-Coucy, wrote of him that he was the greatest scoundrel of his time.

  • Sources 
    1. [S789] The Wallop Family and Their Ancestry by Vernon James Watney. Oxford, 1928.

    2. [S49] Genealogics by Leo Van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes and Leslie Mahler.

    3. [S145] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700 by Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr. 8th edition, William R. Beall & Kaleen E. Beall, eds. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2004, 2006, 2008.