Robert le Grosvenor

Abt 1342 - 1396  (~ 54 years)

• Name	Robert le Grosvenor
  Birth	Abt 1342  [1]
  Gender	Male
  Alternate birth	Abt 1347	of Hulme, Cheshire, England   [2]
  Alternate birth	Bef 1352  [3]
  Death	22 Apr 1396	Hulme, Cheshire, England   [4, 5, 6, 7, 8]
  Person ID	I8709	Ancestry of PNH, TNH, and others
  Last Modified	6 Jan 2018

  
  

  Father	Ralph le Grosvenor,   b. of Hulme, Cheshire, England d. Bef 1356
  Mother	Joan
  Family ID	F4459	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family	Joan de Pulford,   b. Abt 1347, of Pulford, Cheshire, England d. Bef 22 Jun 1396 (Age ~ 49 years)
  Marriage	Abt 1378  [4, 9]
  Children	+ 1. Thomas le Grosvenor,   b. of Hulme, Cheshire, England d. 1429
  Family ID	F5278	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	18 Jan 2016

  
  

• Notes

  Sheriff of Chester 1389, 1394-95. Loser in the celebrated Scrope v Grosvenor heraldic dispute. "Sir Robert, we already know, while still a minor, married a daughter of Sir John Danyell, or Danyers, and accompanied his father-in-law to France in 1359-60. His subsequent services, under the Black Prince and Sir James Audley, come just ten years later; but he may have spent much or all of the intervening period in Guienne, as he did not pay homage to the abbot for his lands in Lostock until 1373. He was then a widower, his wife Margaret having died in June 1370, as he himself states in 1391, when called to prove the age of John, son of Sir Thomas Ardern, the occasion on which he gave his age as fifty. By a second marriage with Joan, the heiress of Pulford, he considerably improved the position of the family, securing with her a title to the manor of Pulford, an estate in Dunham Massey, and other lands besides; but, in consequence of subsisting life interests, the bulk of this property was first enjoyed by their son Sir Thomas Grosvenor, who was born in 1377." ["The Grosvenor Myth", citation details below.]

  
  

• Sources

  [S977] The Blackmans of Knight's Creek: Ancestors and Descendants of George and Maria (Smith) Blackman by Henry James Young. Carlisle, Pennsylvania: 1980. [S442] Kay Allen, 3 Apr 2002, post to soc.genealogy.medieval. [S322] W. H. B. Bird, "The Grosvenor Myth." The Ancestor 1:166, April 1902. [S76] The Oxford Dictionary of National Biography. Oxford University Press, 2004-ongoing. [S322] W. H. B. Bird, "The Grosvenor Myth." The Ancestor 1:166, April 1902., date only. [S356] W. H. B. Bird, "The Representation of the Barons of Dunham." The Genealogist (NS) 16:16, 1900., year only. [S442] Kay Allen, 3 Apr 2002, post to soc.genealogy.medieval., date only. [S977] The Blackmans of Knight's Creek: Ancestors and Descendants of George and Maria (Smith) Blackman by Henry James Young. Carlisle, Pennsylvania: 1980., date only. [S322] W. H. B. Bird, "The Grosvenor Myth." The Ancestor 1:166, April 1902., "aft 1370".