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Grace Roos

Female - Aft 1414


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Grace Roos died after 1414.

    Grace married Philip Tilney between 1378 and 1380. Philip (son of Frederick Tilney and Margery) was born between 1345 and 1355 in of Boston, Lincolnshire, England; died between 4 Apr 1394 and Feb 1398. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. Frederick Tilney  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1380 in of Boston, Lincolnshire, England; died between 1406 and 1412.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Frederick Tilney Descendancy chart to this point (1.Grace1) was born about 1380 in of Boston, Lincolnshire, England; died between 1406 and 1412.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Bef May 1421

    Frederick married Margaret Rochford before 29 Sep 1394. Margaret (daughter of John Rochford, Mayor of Boston, Lincolnshire and Alice) was born about 1380; died after 10 Feb 1443. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 3. Philip Tilney  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1400; died on 31 Oct 1453; was buried in Lincoln Cathedral, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England.


Generation: 3

  1. 3.  Philip Tilney Descendancy chart to this point (2.Frederick2, 1.Grace1) was born about 1400; died on 31 Oct 1453; was buried in Lincoln Cathedral, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: of Boston, Lincolnshire, England

    Notes:

    Sheriff of Lincolnshire, 1437-38. Alderman of the Corpus Christi Guild of Boston. After the death of his wife, he became a secular canon and prebendary at Lincoln Cathedral.

    Philip married Isabel Thorpe before 1 May 1417. Isabel (daughter of Edmund Thorpe, Mayor of Bordeaux and Joan Northwood) died on 10 Nov 1436. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 4. Frederick Tilney  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1420 in of Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk, England; died before 11 Nov 1446; was buried in Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk, England.


Generation: 4

  1. 4.  Frederick Tilney Descendancy chart to this point (3.Philip3, 2.Frederick2, 1.Grace1) was born about 1420 in of Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk, England; died before 11 Nov 1446; was buried in Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: of Boston, Lincolnshire, England
    • Alternate death: Bef 1 Dec 1446

    Family/Spouse: Elizabeth Cheyne. Elizabeth (daughter of Lawrence Cheyne and Elizabeth Cokayne) died on 25 Sep 1473. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 5. Elizabeth Tilney  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1442; died on 4 Apr 1497.


Generation: 5

  1. 5.  Elizabeth Tilney Descendancy chart to this point (4.Frederick4, 3.Philip3, 2.Frederick2, 1.Grace1) was born about 1442; died on 4 Apr 1497.

    Family/Spouse: Thomas Howard. Thomas (son of John Howard and Katherine de Moleyns) was born in 1443; died in 1507. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 6. Edmund Howard  Descendancy chart to this point was born between 1478 and 1480; died in Mar 1539.
    2. 7. Elizabeth Howard  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1480; died on 3 Apr 1538.

    Elizabeth married Humphrey Bourchier after 11 Apr 1451. Humphrey (son of John Bourchier and Margery Berners) was born in in of Massingham Parva, Norfolk, England; died on 14 Apr 1471 in Barnet, Hertfordshire, England; was buried in Chapel of St. Edmund and St. Thomas the Martyr, Westminster Abbey, London, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 8. Margaret Bourchier  Descendancy chart to this point died between 20 Aug 1551 and 21 Jun 1552 in Layton, Essex, England.
    2. 9. John Bourchier  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1467 in of West Horsley, Surrey, England; died on 16 Mar 1533 in Calais, France; was buried in Calais, France.


Generation: 6

  1. 6.  Edmund Howard Descendancy chart to this point (5.Elizabeth5, 4.Frederick4, 3.Philip3, 2.Frederick2, 1.Grace1) was born between 1478 and 1480; died in Mar 1539.

    Notes:

    Described in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography as "an impecunious younger son". Comptroller of Calais in 1531.

    Family/Spouse: Joyce Culpeper. Joyce (daughter of Richard Culpepper and Isabel Worsley) was born about 1480; died after 1527. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 10. Catherine Howard, Queen Consort of England  Descendancy chart to this point was born between 1518 and 1524; died on 13 Feb 1542 in Tower of London, London, England; was buried in Chapel of St. Peter ad Vincula, Tower of London, London, England.

  2. 7.  Elizabeth Howard Descendancy chart to this point (5.Elizabeth5, 4.Frederick4, 3.Philip3, 2.Frederick2, 1.Grace1) was born about 1480; died on 3 Apr 1538.

    Family/Spouse: Thomas Boleyn. Thomas (son of William Boleyn and Margaret Butler) was born about 1477 in Hever Castle, Hever, Kent, England; died on 12 Mar 1539; was buried in St. Peter's, Hever, Kent, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 11. Anne Boleyn, Queen Consort of England  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1500 in Blickling, Norfolk, England; died on 19 May 1536 in Tower Hill, London, England; was buried in Chapel of St. Peter ad Vincula, Tower of London, London, England.

  3. 8.  Margaret Bourchier Descendancy chart to this point (5.Elizabeth5, 4.Frederick4, 3.Philip3, 2.Frederick2, 1.Grace1) died between 20 Aug 1551 and 21 Jun 1552 in Layton, Essex, England.

    Notes:

    Margaret Bourchier was lady governess to the children of King Henry VIII of England, the future monarchs Mary I, Elizabeth I, and Edward VI, as well as the illegitimate Henry FitzRoy.

    Margaret married Thomas Bryan before 1495. Thomas (son of Thomas Bryan and Isabel) was born in in of St. John, Hampshire, England; died between 1 Oct 1508 and 30 Jan 1518. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 12. Elizabeth Bryan  Descendancy chart to this point died between 21 May 1546 and 17 Jul 1546; was buried in St. Botolph's, Aldgate, London, England.

  4. 9.  John Bourchier Descendancy chart to this point (5.Elizabeth5, 4.Frederick4, 3.Philip3, 2.Frederick2, 1.Grace1) was born about 1467 in of West Horsley, Surrey, England; died on 16 Mar 1533 in Calais, France; was buried in Calais, France.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 19 Mar 1533, Calais, France

    Notes:

    2nd Baron Berners. Lieutenant of Calais from 1520 on. Chancellor of the Exchequer from 1524. On commission from Henry VIII he made English translations of Froissart's Chronicles, the Golden Book of Marcus Aurelius, the History of Arthur of Lyttel Brytaine, and the romance Huon of Bordeaux.

    Summoned to Parliament between 14 Oct 1495 and 9 Aug 1529.

    "Berners was not present at the Field of Cloth of Gold in 1520, as has been generally stated, but remained with the council in London." [Oxford Dictionary of National Biography]

    John married Katherine Howard before 13 May 1490. Katherine (daughter of John Howard and Margaret Chedworth) died on 12 Mar 1536. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 13. Jane Bourchier  Descendancy chart to this point died on 17 Feb 1562.


Generation: 7

  1. 10.  Catherine Howard, Queen Consort of England Descendancy chart to this point (6.Edmund6, 5.Elizabeth5, 4.Frederick4, 3.Philip3, 2.Frederick2, 1.Grace1) was born between 1518 and 1524; died on 13 Feb 1542 in Tower of London, London, England; was buried in Chapel of St. Peter ad Vincula, Tower of London, London, England.

    Notes:

    In one of the charges leading to her downfall, she was alleged to have failed to resist the advances of a gentleman of the king's privy chamber named Thomas Culpeper, who was himself beheaded at Tyburn on 10 Dec 1541, two months before her own execution. The Oxford Dictionary of National Biography article about Katherine Howard notes that "he was distantly related to Katherine on her mother's side, for they shared a Culpeper ancestor who had lived in the reign of Edward II." This would be true if the courtier were a son of any number of Culpepers of sixteenth-century Kent, virtually all of them descendants of Thomas Colepeper of Brenchley who died in 1309. But the ODNB confidently states that the courtier Thomas Culpeper was "the second of the three sons of Alexander Culpeper of Bedgebury, Kent (d. 1541), and his second wife, Constance Harper (née Chamberlain); his elder brother, also named Thomas, was a client of Thomas Cromwell." This piques our interest, because this Alexander Culpeper was a son of John Culpeper (~1430-1480) and his wife Agnes Gainsford, who are themselves direct ancestors of JTS and (probably) TNH, AP, and GFS.1, 2

    The problem is this: Alexander Culpeper of Bedgebury made his will on 20 May 1540, and died sometime in 1541 before 21 June, when his will was proved. His wife Constance made her will on 4 Oct 1541, after her husband's death. All of these events happened before the courtier Thomas Culpeper was accused, much less executed. And yet both wills name only one son named Thomas. Alexander's calls Thomas "myne eldist sonne" and mentions one other son, John. Constance's also names only two sons by Alexander, Thomas and John. (She had an additional son, George Harper, by her first marriage.)

    Constance's will was proved at London on 13 Nov 1542, so it's entirely possible that she lived past 10 Nov 1541, the day the courtier Thomas Culpepper was executed. And there is a codicil to Constance's will, undated, but it makes none of the adjustments one might expect if one of one's legatees had been beheaded at Tyburn since the main will was drawn up.

    Even more to the point, if backwoods gentry Alexander and Constance Culpeper had a son who was a fast-rising figure at the royal court, one would think he would at least be mentioned in one or both of their wills. Remember again that when both of these wills were drawn up, the courtier Thomas Culpeper had yet to be accused of any wrongdoing.

    Finally, the will of the Thomas Culpeper who was definitely a son of Alexander and Constance Culpeper, mentioned in both of their wills, is dated 6 Aug 1557; it was proved 20 Oct 1558, and he was buried at St. Mary's in Goudhurst on 13 May 1558. He was married twice, to Elizabeth Hawte in about 1522 and to Ellen Hendley in about 1540. He is obviously not the courtier who was executed in November 1541.

    Where does the claim about the courtier's parentage come from? Probably the 1592 Visitation of Kent. Specifically, the 1924 volume The Visitations of Kent, Taken in the Years 1574 and 1592 by Robert Cooke, Clarenceux, edited by W. Bruce Bannerman, part 2, London, 1924 (Harleian Society volume 75). "The present Volume contains the remaining portion of the letters, I-Z, of the second Visitation, in 1574, together with the third Visitation, made in 1592, based on a contemporary MS bearing the autograph of Percy, Viscount Strangford, London, 1816, with the addition, from other sources, of some further Pedigrees and Arms." We're uncertain what "contemporary MS" means in this context: an actual manuscript made by a herald in the 1590s, or not? And as to the "autograph of Percy, Viscount Strangford, London, 1816", we are doubtful about the mighty authenticating credibility emanating from the signature of Percy Clinton Sydney Smythe, 6th Viscount Strangford (1780-1855), whose career as a British diplomat went into an abrupt decline when, as ambassador to Russia in 1826, he was caught falsifying dispatches to the British government and revealing confidential documents to the Austrian ambassador in St. Petersburg. At any rate, these are the pertinent passages from the 1924 volume's representation of the 1592 visitation, all on page 92:

    Sr John Colepeper of Bedgebery aforsaide knight Sonne and heire to Walter married Agnes the daughter of . . . . . and by her hathe issue Sr Alexander Colepeper knighte his eldest Sonne […]

    Sr Alexander Colepeper of Bedgebery aforsaide knighte Sonne and heire to Sr John maried to his first wiffe Agnes Daughter to Roger Davye of Northfelde in the County of Kent Esquire and by her had issue Alys. After the saide Sr Alexander maried to his seconde wiffe Constance Daughter to Robert Chamberlein and wydowe of Harper, and her her had issue Thomas Colepeper his eldist Sonne, and Thomas Colepeper second Sonne, and John Colepeper thirde Sonne, Elizabeth maried to St Clere gent., Anne maried to Raulfe Molyns of Barkeshier, and Johan maried to Aldred ffitz James of Somersetshire Esquire, Margarett married to Phillippe Chowte gent and Katherin maried to Edwarde Barrett gent.

    Anne's husband was actually William Molyns, not Raulfe or Ralph. Johanna's husband was Alfred Fitzjames, not Aldred, but given the fluidity of late-medieval names he may well have gone by Aldred two or three times a week. At any rate, even stipulating that these passages represent a perfect copy of the original 1592 visitation, it remains that this information would have been taken down by the heralds from people reciting family history over fifty years after the deaths of Alexander and Constance Culpeper.

    We would like to know if the author of the ODNB essay about Katherine Howard, Retha M. Warnicke, has other sources that would indicate that the courtier Thomas Culpeper was in fact a son of Alexander and Constance. We would also like to know the source for the information that his stated older brother, also named Thomas, was "a client of Thomas Cromwell." In the absence of any such information, we're inclined to believe that this theory of the parentage of the courtier Thomas Culpeper is merely yet another example of the less-than-perfect reliability of visitation pedigrees.

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    (1) Depending on whether TNH, AP, and GFS ancestor Joan Roberts was a daughter of her father Walter Roberts's second wife Isabel Culpepper, daughter of John Culpepper and Agnes Gainsford, as seems most probable, instead of his first wife, Margaret Penn. See Adrian Benjamin Burke, John Blythe Dobson, and Janet Chevally Wolfe, "The Exhurst Ancestry of the Stoughton Siblings of New England", The New England Historical and Genealogical Register 165:245, October 2011; 166:46, January 2012.

    (2) And possibly of PNH, if it's ever proved that his 9G-grandfather Henry Colepepper (d. 1675 in Virginia) was a son of his fellow Virginia emigrant John Culpeper (1637-1674), as has often been speculated. If this turned out to be the case, John Culpeper and Agnes Gainsford would be the most recent common ancestors of PNH and TNH.

    Catherine married Henry VIII, King of England on 28 Jul 1540 in Oatlands Palace, Surrey, England. Henry (son of Henry VII, King of England and lord of Ireland and Elizabeth of York, Queen Consort of England) was born on 28 Jun 1491 in Greenwich, Kent, England; died on 28 Jan 1547 in Hampton Court Palace, Richmond upon Thames, London, England; was buried in St. George's Chapel, Windsor, Berkshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 11.  Anne Boleyn, Queen Consort of England Descendancy chart to this point (7.Elizabeth6, 5.Elizabeth5, 4.Frederick4, 3.Philip3, 2.Frederick2, 1.Grace1) was born about 1500 in Blickling, Norfolk, England; died on 19 May 1536 in Tower Hill, London, England; was buried in Chapel of St. Peter ad Vincula, Tower of London, London, England.

    Anne married Henry VIII, King of England in Jan 1533. Henry (son of Henry VII, King of England and lord of Ireland and Elizabeth of York, Queen Consort of England) was born on 28 Jun 1491 in Greenwich, Kent, England; died on 28 Jan 1547 in Hampton Court Palace, Richmond upon Thames, London, England; was buried in St. George's Chapel, Windsor, Berkshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 14. Elizabeth I, Queen of England and Ireland  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 7 Sep 1533 in Greenwich Palace, Kent, England; died on 24 Mar 1603 in Richmond Palace, Surrey, England; was buried in Westminster Abbey, Westminster, Middlesex, England.

  3. 12.  Elizabeth Bryan Descendancy chart to this point (8.Margaret6, 5.Elizabeth5, 4.Frederick4, 3.Philip3, 2.Frederick2, 1.Grace1) died between 21 May 1546 and 17 Jul 1546; was buried in St. Botolph's, Aldgate, London, England.

    Notes:

    Elizabeth Bryan was vice-chamberlain to Catherine of Aragon, an office also held by her father, and a reputed mistress of Henry VIII. Following her husband's death, she was reduced to penury. Some of their former property eventually wound up in the Darcy family.

    Elizabeth married Nicholas Carew in Dec 1514. Nicholas (son of Richard Carew and Malyn Oxenbridge) was born before 1496; died on 3 Mar 1540 in Tower Hill, London, England; was buried in St. Botolph's, Aldgate, London, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 15. Mary Carew  Descendancy chart to this point was buried in St. Botolph's, Aldgate, London, England.

  4. 13.  Jane Bourchier Descendancy chart to this point (9.John6, 5.Elizabeth5, 4.Frederick4, 3.Philip3, 2.Frederick2, 1.Grace1) died on 17 Feb 1562.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 1561

    Notes:

    Or Joan.

    Family/Spouse: Edmund Knyvet. Edmund (son of Edmund Knyvet and Eleanor Tyrrell) was born in 1490 in of Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk, England; died on 1 May 1539; was buried in Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 16. John Knyvet  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1517 in of Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk, England; died before 1556.


Generation: 8

  1. 14.  Elizabeth I, Queen of England and Ireland Descendancy chart to this point (11.Anne7, 7.Elizabeth6, 5.Elizabeth5, 4.Frederick4, 3.Philip3, 2.Frederick2, 1.Grace1) was born on 7 Sep 1533 in Greenwich Palace, Kent, England; died on 24 Mar 1603 in Richmond Palace, Surrey, England; was buried in Westminster Abbey, Westminster, Middlesex, England.

  2. 15.  Mary Carew Descendancy chart to this point (12.Elizabeth7, 8.Margaret6, 5.Elizabeth5, 4.Frederick4, 3.Philip3, 2.Frederick2, 1.Grace1) was buried in St. Botolph's, Aldgate, London, England.

    Notes:

    Arthur Darcy and Mary Carew were both descendants of Edward III and Philippa of Hainault, he as a 6Xgreat-grandson and she as a 5Xgreat-granddaughter. By those descents they were, to one another, sixth cousins once removed. But in fact they were slightly more closely related than that: fifth cousins once removed by shared descent from Ralph de Greystoke and Katherine Clifford, and fifth cousins twice removed by shared descent from John de Welle and Maud de Ros.

    Family/Spouse: Arthur Darcy. Arthur (son of Thomas Darcy and Dowsabel Tempest) was born in in of Brimham, Yorkshire, England; died on 3 Apr 1561; was buried in St. Botolph's, Aldgate, London, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 17. Henry Darcy  Descendancy chart to this point was born in in of Brimham, Yorkshire, England.
    2. 18. Thomas Darcy  Descendancy chart to this point died on 6 Nov 1605.
    3. 19. Edward Darcy  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1543 in of Dartford, Kent, England; died on 28 Oct 1612 in Dartford, Kent, England; was buried in St. Botolph's, Aldgate, London, England.

  3. 16.  John Knyvet Descendancy chart to this point (13.Jane7, 9.John6, 5.Elizabeth5, 4.Frederick4, 3.Philip3, 2.Frederick2, 1.Grace1) was born about 1517 in of Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk, England; died before 1556.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: of Plumstead, Norfolk, England
    • Alternate death: Bef 1561

    John married Agnes Harcourt about 1538. Agnes (daughter of John Harcourt and Margaret Barantyne) died in 1578. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 20. Abigail Knyvet  Descendancy chart to this point died on 15 Dec 1623; was buried in Wacton, Norfolk, England.