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John Stanley, Titular King of Man

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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  John Stanley, Titular King of Man was born in in of Stanley, Staffordshire, England; died on 6 Jan 1414 in Ardee, Louth, Ireland; was buried in Burscough Priory, Lancashire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Bef 28 Jan 1414, Ardee, Louth, Ireland

    Notes:

    "Deputy in Ireland for Robert de Vere, Marquess of Dublin, 1386-1387/8; Controller of the Household, 4 Mar 1389; Justiciary of Ireland, 1 Aug 1389-before 29 Aug 1391; Justice of Chester, 28 Apr 1394; Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, 10 Dec 1399-Apr/July 1401; appointed Knight of the Garter, about 1405. In 1405, Henry IV granted the Isle of Man to Sir John Stanley, which he ruled as a petty king until his death, and which passed on to his descendants, each ruling as King of Man and the Isles until the time of Thomas, 2nd Earl of Derby who changed the title to Lord. King's Lieutenant of Ireland, 8 June 1413-6 Jan 1414." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, citation details below.]

    From Wikipedia:

    Stanley's father was Master-Forester of the Forest of Wirral, notorious for his repressive activities. Both Stanley and his older brother, William (who succeeded their father as Master-Forester), were involved in criminal cases which charged them with a forced entry in 1369 and in the murder of Thomas Clotton in 1376.

    Conviction for the murder of Clotton resulted in Stanley being declared an outlaw. However, he was already distinguishing himself in military service in the French wars, and he was pardoned in 1378 at the insistence of his commander, Sir Thomas Trivet.

    In 1385 he married Isabel Lathom, heir to the extensive lands of Sir Thomas Lathom (great-great-grandson of Humphrey VI de Bohun, 3rd Earl of Hereford) in south-west Lancashire. The marriage took place despite the opposition of John of Gaunt and gave Stanley the sort of wealth and financial security he could never have hoped to have had as the younger son in his own family.[1] Stanley had four sons, John, Henry, Thomas and Ralph as well as two daughters.

    The year 1386 saw his first appointment in Ireland as deputy to Robert de Vere, Duke of Ireland. This occurred because of the insurrection created by the friction between Sir Philip de Courtenay, the then English Lieutenant of Ireland, and his appointed governor James Butler, 3rd Earl of Ormond. Stanley led an expedition to Ireland on behalf of de Vere and King Richard II to quell it. He was accompanied by Bishop Alexander de Balscot of Meath and Sir Robert Crull. Butler joined them upon their arrival in Ireland. Because of the success of the expedition, Stanley was appointed to the position of Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, Alexander to chancellor, Crull to treasurer, and Butler to his old position as governor. In 1389, Richard II appointed him justiciar of Ireland, a post he held until 1391. He was heavily involved in Richard's first expedition to Ireland in 1394–1395.

    Throughout the 1390s he was involved in placating possible rebellion in Cheshire. Between 1396 and 1398 he served as captain of Roxburgh. Stanley took part in Richard II's expedition to Ireland in 1399. However, on his return to England, Stanley, who had long proved adept at political manoeuvring, turned his back on Richard and submitted to Henry IV of England.

    Stanley's fortunes were equally good under the Lancastrians. He was granted lordships in the Welsh marches, and served a term as lieutenant of Ireland. In 1403 he was made steward of the household of Henry, Prince of Wales (later Henry V). Unlike many of the Cheshire gentry, he took the side of the king in the rebellion of the Percys. He was wounded in the throat at the Battle of Shrewsbury.

    In 1405 he was granted the tenure of the Isle of Man, which had been confiscated from the rebellious Henry Percy, 1st Earl of Northumberland. In this period he also became steward of the king's household, and was elected a Knight of the Garter. In 1413 King Henry V of England sent him to serve once more as lieutenant of Ireland. He died at Ardee, County Louth, in 1414, after being satirised by the O'Higgins of Meath for despoiling the lands and raiding the cows of Niall O'Higgins. He lasted but five weeks, according to the Four Masters, before succumbing "to the virulence of the lampoons". His body was returned to Lathom and buried at Burscough Priory near Ormskirk. This was the second such Poet's Miracle performed by the O'Higgins.

    John married Isabel Lathom before 1385. Isabel (daughter of Thomas de Lathom and Joan de Venables) died on 26 Oct 1414. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. Thomas Stanley  Descendancy chart to this point was born in in of Elford, Staffordshire, England; died on 13 May 1463; was buried in Elford, Staffordshire, England.
    2. 3. John Stanley, Titular King of Man  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1386 in of Lathom, Lancashire, England; died on 27 Nov 1437.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Thomas Stanley Descendancy chart to this point (1.John1) was born in in of Elford, Staffordshire, England; died on 13 May 1463; was buried in Elford, Staffordshire, England.

    Notes:

    Sheriff of Warwickshire and Leicestershire, 1427-28. Sheriff of Staffordshire, 1433-34, 1438-39. Knight of the shire for Staffordshire.

    Thomas married Maud Arderne before 1 May 1413. Maud (daughter of John Arderne and Margaret Pilkington) was born on 2 Jul 1396; died between 1430 and 1432. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 4. Anne Stanley  Descendancy chart to this point

  2. 3.  John Stanley, Titular King of Man Descendancy chart to this point (1.John1) was born about 1386 in of Lathom, Lancashire, England; died on 27 Nov 1437.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Aft 1 Sep 1427

    Notes:

    Knight of the shire for Lancashire, 1413 and 1414. Justice of Chester. Sheriff of Anglesey. Steward of the household of Henry IV.

    Fought at Agincourt with eight men-at-arms and 24 archers.

    Quoted in Wikipedia, A. W. Moore (1853-1909), Speaker of the House of Keys, the lower house of the Manx legislature, said of him: "He may justly be considered an enlightened and upright ruler, much in advance of his time. He caused the ancient laws and constitutions of his little kingdom to be reduced to writing, he humbled the overbearing ecclesiastical authorities, and, after he had practically concentrated all power into his own hands, he wisely conceded a representative form of government."

    John married Elizabeth Harington before 1405. Elizabeth (daughter of Nicholas Harington and Isabel English) died after 22 Mar 1445. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 5. Thomas Stanley  Descendancy chart to this point was born before 1406 in of Lathom, Lancashire, England; died on 11 Feb 1459; was buried in Burscough Priory, Lancashire, England.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Anne Stanley Descendancy chart to this point (2.Thomas2, 1.John1)

    Anne married John Gresley before 1455. John (son of John Gresley and Elizabeth Clarell) was born about 1418 in of Drakelow, Derbyshire, England; died on 30 Jan 1487. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 6. Thomasine Gresley  Descendancy chart to this point

  2. 5.  Thomas Stanley Descendancy chart to this point (3.John2, 1.John1) was born before 1406 in of Lathom, Lancashire, England; died on 11 Feb 1459; was buried in Burscough Priory, Lancashire, England.

    Notes:

    Lieutenant-Governor of Ireland. Constable of Chester. Chamberlain of North Wales. Justice of Chester. Chief Steward of the Duchy of Lancaster. Controller of the royal household. Privy concillor.

    Knight of the shire for Lancashire 1427, 1433, 1439, 1442, 1447, 1449, 1450, 1453, 1455. Summoned to Parliament by writ dated 15 Jan 1456.

    Thomas Stanley (d. 1459) = Joan Goushill
    Katherine Stanley = John Savage (1422-1495)
    Margaret Savage = John Honford (1435-1480)
    Katherine Honford (d. 1529) = John Mainwaring (1471-1516)
    Randall Mainwaring (1495-1557) = Elizabeth Brereton
    Margaret Mainwaring (1521-1590) = Arthur Mainwaring (1520-1590)
    Mary Mainwaring (1541-1578) = Richard Cotton (1541-1602)
    Frances Cotton (1573-1646) = George Abell (1561-1630)
    Robert Abell (1605-1663) = Joanna
    Mary Abell (b. 1642) = Samuel Luther (1638-1716)
    Mehitable Luther (1676-1764) = Ebenezer Cole (1671-1719)
    Ebenezer Cole (b. 1715) = Prudence Miller (b. 1721)
    Ruth Cole (b. 1744) = John Thurber (b. 1735)
    John Thurber (1774-1826) = Freelove Thurston (1778-1832)
    Sarah Ann Thurber = Peleg Hull
    Sarah Emeline Hull = Leander Thurber (1832-1867)
    Charles Leander Thurber (1867-1939) = Mary Agnes Fisher (1868-1955)
    James Grover Thurber (1894-1961)

    Family/Spouse: Joan Goushill. Joan (daughter of Robert Goushill and Elizabeth Fitz Alan) was born before 1402; died before 27 Apr 1466. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 7. Margaret Stanley  Descendancy chart to this point died about 1481.
    2. 8. Katherine Stanley  Descendancy chart to this point was buried in Macclesfield, Cheshire, England.
    3. 9. Thomas Stanley  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1435; died on 29 Jul 1504 in Lathom, Cheshire, England.


Generation: 4

  1. 6.  Thomasine Gresley Descendancy chart to this point (4.Anne3, 2.Thomas2, 1.John1)

    Family/Spouse: Thomas Darell. Thomas (son of John Darell and Florence Chichele) was born in 1422. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 10. Agnes Darell  Descendancy chart to this point died after 1508.

  2. 7.  Margaret Stanley Descendancy chart to this point (5.Thomas3, 3.John2, 1.John1) died about 1481.

    Margaret married William Troutbeck before 17 Dec 1444. William (son of John Troutbeck and Margery Hulse) was born between 1432 and 1435 in of Dunham-on-the-Hill, Cheshire, England; died on 23 Sep 1459 in Blore Heath, Staffordshire, England; was buried in Troutneck chapel, St. Mary's, Chester, Cheshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 11. Adam Troutbeck  Descendancy chart to this point was born in in of Thornton-le-Moors, Cheshire, England; died between 1493 and 1510.

  3. 8.  Katherine Stanley Descendancy chart to this point (5.Thomas3, 3.John2, 1.John1) was buried in Macclesfield, Cheshire, England.

    Family/Spouse: John Savage, Mayor of Chester. John (son of John Savage and Eleanor Brereton) was born about 1423 in of Rocksavage, Cheshire, England; was buried on 22 Nov 1495. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 12. John Savage  Descendancy chart to this point died on 18 Oct 1492 in Bouteville, Poitou-Charentes, France; was buried in Macclesfield, Cheshire, England.
    2. 13. Thomas Savage, Archbishop of York  Descendancy chart to this point died on 3 Sep 1507 in Cawood Castle, Yorkshire, England; was buried in York Cathedral, York, Yorkshire, England.

  4. 9.  Thomas Stanley Descendancy chart to this point (5.Thomas3, 3.John2, 1.John1) was born in 1435; died on 29 Jul 1504 in Lathom, Cheshire, England.

    Notes:

    1st Earl of Derby.

    Family/Spouse: Margaret Beaufort. Margaret (daughter of John Beaufort and Margaret Beauchamp) was born on 31 May 1443 in Bletsoe, Bedfordshire, England; died on 29 Jun 1509 in Westminster, Middlesex, England; was buried in Westminster Abbey, Westminster, Middlesex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Family/Spouse: Eleanor Neville. Eleanor (daughter of Richard Neville and Alice Montagu) was born in 1447; died before 1471. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]



Generation: 5

  1. 10.  Agnes Darell Descendancy chart to this point (6.Thomasine4, 4.Anne3, 2.Thomas2, 1.John1) died after 1508.

    Family/Spouse: Simon Harcourt. Simon (son of Christopher Harcourt and Joan Stapleton) was born about 1473 in of Witham, Berkshire, England; died on 16 Jan 1547; was buried in Stanton Harcourt, Oxfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 14. John Harcourt  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1500; died on 19 Feb 1566; was buried in Stanton Harcourt, Oxfordshire, England.

  2. 11.  Adam Troutbeck Descendancy chart to this point (7.Margaret4, 5.Thomas3, 3.John2, 1.John1) was born in in of Thornton-le-Moors, Cheshire, England; died between 1493 and 1510.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: of Mobberley, Cheshire, England

    Adam married Joan Molyneux before 1491. Joan died after 1510. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 15. Margaret Troutbeck  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1492; died after 11 Jul 1521.

  3. 12.  John Savage Descendancy chart to this point (8.Katherine4, 5.Thomas3, 3.John2, 1.John1) died on 18 Oct 1492 in Bouteville, Poitou-Charentes, France; was buried in Macclesfield, Cheshire, England.

    Notes:

    Pallbearer to Edward IV. Said to have had charge of the left wing at Bosworth Field; subsequently made Knight of the Garter by Henry VII.

    Killed at the siege of Boulogne. According to J. D. Mackie, The Earlier Tudors 1485-1558 (Oxford: The Clarendon Press, 1952), "The siege was not pressed hard, and save that Sir John Savage was killed nothing of note occured."

    "Traditionally, the wife of Sir John Savage is claimed to have been Dorothy Vernon, a descendant of the Vernons of Shipbrook, Cheshire. This claim is based upon the Visitation of Cheshire of 1580 [...T]here is no evidence that Dorothy Vernon even existed." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, citation details below.]

    Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 16. Maud Savage  Descendancy chart to this point

  4. 13.  Thomas Savage, Archbishop of York Descendancy chart to this point (8.Katherine4, 5.Thomas3, 3.John2, 1.John1) died on 3 Sep 1507 in Cawood Castle, Yorkshire, England; was buried in York Cathedral, York, Yorkshire, England.


Generation: 6

  1. 14.  John Harcourt Descendancy chart to this point (10.Agnes5, 6.Thomasine4, 4.Anne3, 2.Thomas2, 1.John1) was born about 1500; died on 19 Feb 1566; was buried in Stanton Harcourt, Oxfordshire, England.

    Notes:

    Sheriff of Staffordshire 1545-46. Knight of the shire for Staffordshire.

    John married Margaret Barantyne before 1523. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 17. Agnes Harcourt  Descendancy chart to this point died in 1578.

  2. 15.  Margaret Troutbeck Descendancy chart to this point (11.Adam5, 7.Margaret4, 5.Thomas3, 3.John2, 1.John1) was born about 1492; died after 11 Jul 1521.

    Margaret married John Talbot before 1510. John (son of Gilbert Talbot and Elizabeth Greystoke) was born about 1485 in of Grafton, Worcestershire, England; died on 10 Sep 1549; was buried in Bromsgrove, Worcestershire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 18. Anne Talbot  Descendancy chart to this point was born between 1510 and 1515.

  3. 16.  Maud Savage Descendancy chart to this point (12.John5, 8.Katherine4, 5.Thomas3, 3.John2, 1.John1)

    Family/Spouse: Robert Needham. Robert (son of Robert Needham) was born in in of Cranage, Cheshire, England; died in 1448. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 19. Thomas Needham  Descendancy chart to this point was born in in of Cranage, Cheshire, England.
    2. 20. John Needham  Descendancy chart to this point died in 1480.


Generation: 7

  1. 17.  Agnes Harcourt Descendancy chart to this point (14.John6, 10.Agnes5, 6.Thomasine4, 4.Anne3, 2.Thomas2, 1.John1) died in 1578.

    Notes:

    Or Anne.

    Agnes married John Knyvet about 1538. John (son of Edmund Knyvet and Jane Bourchier) was born about 1517 in of Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk, England; died before 1556. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 21. Abigail Knyvet  Descendancy chart to this point died on 15 Dec 1623; was buried in Wacton, Norfolk, England.

  2. 18.  Anne Talbot Descendancy chart to this point (15.Margaret6, 11.Adam5, 7.Margaret4, 5.Thomas3, 3.John2, 1.John1) was born between 1510 and 1515.

    Anne married Thomas Needham on 1 Feb 1526. Thomas (son of Robert Needham and Agnes Mainwaring) was born in 1510 in of Cranage, Cheshire, England; died before 1556. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 22. Robert Needham  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1535 in of Shavington in Adderley, Shropshire, England; died before 18 Dec 1603; was buried on 18 Dec 1603 in Adderley, Shropshire, England.

  3. 19.  Thomas Needham Descendancy chart to this point (16.Maud6, 12.John5, 8.Katherine4, 5.Thomas3, 3.John2, 1.John1) was born in in of Cranage, Cheshire, England.

    Family/Spouse: Maud Brereton. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 23. William Needham  Descendancy chart to this point was born in in of Cranage, Cheshire, England; died in 1505.

  4. 20.  John Needham Descendancy chart to this point (16.Maud6, 12.John5, 8.Katherine4, 5.Thomas3, 3.John2, 1.John1) died in 1480.

    Notes:

    Judge of the Common Pleas, 1457; MP for London, 1450; Judge of the King's Bench, 1472.



Generation: 8

  1. 21.  Abigail Knyvet Descendancy chart to this point (17.Agnes7, 14.John6, 10.Agnes5, 6.Thomasine4, 4.Anne3, 2.Thomas2, 1.John1) died on 15 Dec 1623; was buried in Wacton, Norfolk, England.

    Abigail married Martin Sedley in 1577. Martin (son of Martin Sedley and Elizabeth Mounteney) was born about 1531 in of Morley, Norfolk, England; died about 1609; was buried on 10 Feb 1610 in St. Peter's Chapel, Morley, Norfolk, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 24. Muriel Sedley  Descendancy chart to this point was born before 20 Apr 1583 in Morley, Norfolk, England; died on 22 Aug 1661 in Letton, Norfolk, England; was buried in Letton, Norfolk, England.

  2. 22.  Robert Needham Descendancy chart to this point (18.Anne7, 15.Margaret6, 11.Adam5, 7.Margaret4, 5.Thomas3, 3.John2, 1.John1) was born in 1535 in of Shavington in Adderley, Shropshire, England; died before 18 Dec 1603; was buried on 18 Dec 1603 in Adderley, Shropshire, England.

    Notes:

    Sheriff of Shropshire, 1564-65, 1587-87, 1595-96. Vice-President of the Council in the Marches of Wales.

    Robert married Frances Aston before 1558. Frances (daughter of Edward Aston and Jane Bowles) died before 31 Aug 1601; was buried on 31 Aug 1601 in Adderley, Shropshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 25. Dorothy Needham  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1570; died after 1631.

  3. 23.  William Needham Descendancy chart to this point (19.Thomas7, 16.Maud6, 12.John5, 8.Katherine4, 5.Thomas3, 3.John2, 1.John1) was born in in of Cranage, Cheshire, England; died in 1505.

    Notes:

    Sergeant-at-law of Cheshire, 1461, and bailiff of Drakelowe and Rudheth, 1461 and 1472-76.

    Family/Spouse: Isabel Bromley. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 26. Robert Needham  Descendancy chart to this point was born in in of Shavington in Adderley, Shropshire, England; died on 4 Jun 1556.