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Otto fitz William

Male - Abt 1194


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Otto fitz William died about 1194.

    Notes:

    "Otto [...] did not appear in connection with the dies. Gibbs, p. 136, prints a charter of Theobald of Lisson Green, goldsmith and engraver of the dies for the money of England, dated before 1200, who may have been the family representative in this generation, but no other reference to this Theobald has been found." [F. N. Craig, "Descent from a Domesday Goldsmith." The American Genealogist 65:1, January 1990, p. 24.]

    Family/Spouse: Margaria. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. William fitz Otto  Descendancy chart to this point was born in in of Lilleston, Middlesex, England; died after 1217.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  William fitz Otto Descendancy chart to this point (1.Otto1) was born in in of Lilleston, Middlesex, England; died after 1217.

    Notes:

    Also called William fitz Otho. "In 1198 he held 'Lilleston' by service in the king's mint, and land in the hundred of Spelthorn in Middlesex by serjeanty of the dies in London." [F. N. Craig, "Descent from a Domesday Goldsmith." The American Genealogist 65:1, January 1990, p. 24.]

    Family/Spouse: Matilda de Diva. Matilda (daughter of William de Diva and Matilda de Waterville) died after 1222. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 3. Otes fitz William  Descendancy chart to this point was born in in of Belchamp Otton, Essex, England.


Generation: 3

  1. 3.  Otes fitz William Descendancy chart to this point (2.William2, 1.Otto1) was born in in of Belchamp Otton, Essex, England.

    Notes:

    Also called Otto.

    Hereditary coiner of the Mint. "By 1219 Otto had succeeded his father and was holding Lisson Green by the serjeanty of custodian of the dies. [F. N. Craig, "Descent from a Domesday Goldsmith." The American Genealogist 65:1, January 1990, p. 24.]

    Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 4. Thomas fitz Otes  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1231 in of Mendlesham, Suffolk, England; died before 23 Mar 1274.


Generation: 4

  1. 4.  Thomas fitz Otes Descendancy chart to this point (3.Otes3, 2.William2, 1.Otto1) was born about 1231 in of Mendlesham, Suffolk, England; died before 23 Mar 1274.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Bef 28 Mar 1274

    Notes:

    Also called Thomas fitz Otto.

    Hereditary Coiner of the Mint in the Tower of London and City of Canterbury.

    "In [1261] the king took the homage of Thomas and granted him the serjeanty (Excerpta E Rotulis Fiunium [London 1835-36] 2:355). In 1265 Thomas son of Otto was to be given the scrap iron from the broken dies, as his father Otto son of William and his ancestors had had (Calendar of Close Rolls, Henry III 13:19)."

    Thomas married Beatrice de Beauchamp before 1264. Beatrice (daughter of William de Beauchamp and Idonea de Longespée) died about 1281. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 5. Maud fitz Thomas  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1269; died before 27 Nov 1328.


Generation: 5

  1. 5.  Maud fitz Thomas Descendancy chart to this point (4.Thomas4, 3.Otes3, 2.William2, 1.Otto1) was born in 1269; died before 27 Nov 1328.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: 1271
    • Alternate birth: Abt 1269-1272
    • Alternate death: Aft 28 May 1329

    Notes:

    Also called Maud (or Matilda) Fitz Otto, Fitz Otes, etc.

    "As a descendant of Otto the goldsmith, she held the hereditary serjeantry of the Cutter of the Dies, whose duty was to supervise die production in London for distribution to the many regional mints. [...John de Boutetourt] died in 1324. [...Maud] survived and in 1329 sold the office of graver and worker of the dies in the Tower of London and the city of Canterbury which was held in chief, to William Le Latymer (Calendar of Patent Rolls, Edward III 1:391), who had married her daughter Elizabeth. [F. N. Craig, "Descent from a Domesday Goldsmith." The American Genealogist 65:1, January 1990, p. 24.]

    Maud married John Botetourt before Jun 1282. John (son of Guy Botetourt and Ada) died on 25 Nov 1324. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 6. Thomas Botetourt  Descendancy chart to this point was born in in of Upton, Norfolk, England; died before 28 Jul 1322.
    2. 7. Otes Botetourt  Descendancy chart to this point was born in in of Mendlesham, Suffolk, England; died on 11 Nov 1345.
    3. 8. Ada Botetourt  Descendancy chart to this point died before 31 May 1349.
    4. 9. Elizabeth Botetourt  Descendancy chart to this point died on 11 Apr 1384.


Generation: 6

  1. 6.  Thomas Botetourt Descendancy chart to this point (5.Maud5, 4.Thomas4, 3.Otes3, 2.William2, 1.Otto1) was born in in of Upton, Norfolk, England; died before 28 Jul 1322.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: of Essex, England
    • Alternate death: Aug 1322

    Thomas married Joan de Somery before 1318. Joan (daughter of Roger de Somery and Agnes) died after 1325. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 10. Maud Botetort  Descendancy chart to this point died on 14 Sep 1391 in Shirland, Derbyshire, England.
    2. 11. John Botetourte  Descendancy chart to this point was born between 1317 and 1318 in of Weoley, Northfield, Worcestershire, England; died on 4 Apr 1386; was buried in Halesowen Abbey, Worcestershire, England.

  2. 7.  Otes Botetourt Descendancy chart to this point (5.Maud5, 4.Thomas4, 3.Otes3, 2.William2, 1.Otto1) was born in in of Mendlesham, Suffolk, England; died on 11 Nov 1345.

    Notes:

    Also called Otho.

    Family/Spouse: Sibyl. Sibyl died after Nov 1345. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 12. John Botetourt  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1332 in of Mendlesham, Suffolk, England; died before 15 Dec 1376.

  3. 8.  Ada Botetourt Descendancy chart to this point (5.Maud5, 4.Thomas4, 3.Otes3, 2.William2, 1.Otto1) died before 31 May 1349.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Abt 7 Jun 1349

    Ada married John de Saint Philibert, Mayor of Bordeaux before 1322. John (son of Hugh de Saint Philibert and Alice de Blakenham) was born between 1292 and 1293; died before 12 Feb 1333. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 13. Margery de Saint Philibert  Descendancy chart to this point died before 1384.

  4. 9.  Elizabeth Botetourt Descendancy chart to this point (5.Maud5, 4.Thomas4, 3.Otes3, 2.William2, 1.Otto1) died on 11 Apr 1384.

    Elizabeth married William le Latimer between 1323 and 1324. William (son of William le Latimer and Lucy de Thweng) was born about 1301 in of Scampston, Yorkshire, England; died before 2 Nov 1335. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 14. William le Latimer  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 24 Mar 1330 in Scampston, Yorkshire, England; died on 28 May 1381; was buried in Guisborough Priory, Yorkshire, England.

    Elizabeth married Robert de Ufford before 20 Aug 1337. Robert (son of Robert de Ufford and Margaret de Norwich) died before 19 Jun 1362. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]



Generation: 7

  1. 10.  Maud Botetort Descendancy chart to this point (6.Thomas6, 5.Maud5, 4.Thomas4, 3.Otes3, 2.William2, 1.Otto1) died on 14 Sep 1391 in Shirland, Derbyshire, England.

    Maud married Reynold de Grey before 10 Jan 1328. Reynold (son of Henry de Grey) was born on 1 Nov 1311 in of Wilton, Herefordshire, England; died on 28 May 1370 in Shirland, Derbyshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 15. Henry de Grey  Descendancy chart to this point was born between 1340 and 1351 in of Wilton, Herefordshire, England; died on 22 Apr 1396.

  2. 11.  John Botetourte Descendancy chart to this point (6.Thomas6, 5.Maud5, 4.Thomas4, 3.Otes3, 2.William2, 1.Otto1) was born between 1317 and 1318 in of Weoley, Northfield, Worcestershire, England; died on 4 Apr 1386; was buried in Halesowen Abbey, Worcestershire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: 1318, of Upton, Norfolk, England
    • Alternate birth: Abt 1318
    • Alternate death: 1385

    Notes:

    "John (de Botetourt), Lord Bortetourt, grandson and h., being s. and h. of Thomas de B., by Joan (living 18 Jan. 1326/7), da. of Roger de Somery, sister (and coh. of the considerable estates) of John [Lord] Somery, which Thomas de B. was s. and h. ap. of the late Lord, and d. v.p., in 1322. He, who was aged 4 in Aug. 1322, and 7 in Dec. 1324, had livery of his lands (1341) 14 Edw. III, having had livery (though then a minor) of his mother's lands 16 July 1338. He distinguished himself in the French wars. He was sum. to Parl. from 25 Feb. (1342) 16 Edw. III to 3 Feb. (1385) 9 Ric. II. [...] He m., [...], before 31 May 1347, Joyce, da. of William Zouche, formerly Mortimer [Lord Zouche of Mortimer]. She was living 4 May 1372. [...] He d. 1385, and was bur. at Halesowen, when any Barony which may be held to have been cr. by writ, became dormant, but the right thereto, according to modern doctrine, would appear to have devolved, as under. Will, as Lord of Weologh, pr. 1386 at Lambeth." [Complete Peerage II:235, as corrected by Volume XIV.]

    Even subsequent to the corrections in Volume XIV, CP is still mistaken in claiming (in passages replaced above by ellipses) that this John Botetourt had as his 1st wife Maud de Grey, daughter of John de Grey, 1st Lord Grey of Rotherfield. Details here.

    John married Joyce la Zouche before 31 May 1347. Joyce (daughter of William la Zouche and Alice de Tony) died after 4 May 1372. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 16. Katherine Botetourte  Descendancy chart to this point died on 22 Jan 1388.
    2. 17. Joyce Botetourte  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1348; died on 12 Aug 1420.

  3. 12.  John Botetourt Descendancy chart to this point (7.Otes6, 5.Maud5, 4.Thomas4, 3.Otes3, 2.William2, 1.Otto1) was born about 1332 in of Mendlesham, Suffolk, England; died before 15 Dec 1376.

    Family/Spouse: Katherine de Weyland. Katherine (daughter of Robert de Weyland and Cecily de Baldock) died after Dec 1376. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 18. Joan Botetourt  Descendancy chart to this point died about 1417.

  4. 13.  Margery de Saint Philibert Descendancy chart to this point (8.Ada6, 5.Maud5, 4.Thomas4, 3.Otes3, 2.William2, 1.Otto1) died before 1384.

    Family/Spouse: Richard de Plaiz. Richard (son of Richard de Plaiz and Margaret) was born on 21 Sep 1323 in of Fowlmere, Cambridgeshire, England; died in Oct 1360 in Overseas. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 19. John de Plaiz  Descendancy chart to this point was born before 14 Jan 1343; died on 2 Jun 1389.

  5. 14.  William le Latimer Descendancy chart to this point (9.Elizabeth6, 5.Maud5, 4.Thomas4, 3.Otes3, 2.William2, 1.Otto1) was born on 24 Mar 1330 in Scampston, Yorkshire, England; died on 28 May 1381; was buried in Guisborough Priory, Yorkshire, England.

    Notes:

    At Crécy, in the first division. A close associate of John of Gaunt.

    William married Elizabeth de Arundel before 10 Aug 1353. Elizabeth (daughter of Edmund Fitz Alan and Alice de Warenne) died on 11 Mar 1384. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 20. Elizabeth le Latimer  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1357; died on 5 Nov 1395.


Generation: 8

  1. 15.  Henry de Grey Descendancy chart to this point (10.Maud7, 6.Thomas6, 5.Maud5, 4.Thomas4, 3.Otes3, 2.William2, 1.Otto1) was born between 1340 and 1351 in of Wilton, Herefordshire, England; died on 22 Apr 1396.

    Notes:

    5th Lord Grey of Wilton. He was summoned to Parliament 1 Dec 1376 by a writ directed Henrico de Grey de Shirlond, and from 4 Aug 1377 to 20 Nov 1394 by writs directed Henrico de Grey de Wilton.

    Henry married Elizabeth Talbot about 4 May 1370. Elizabeth (daughter of Gilbert Talbot and Pernel le Boteler) died on 10 Jan 1402. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 21. Margaret Grey  Descendancy chart to this point died on 1 Jun 1454.
    2. 22. Richard Grey  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1393 in of Wilton, Herefordshire, England; died on 13 Aug 1442 in Waterhall in Lavendon, Buckinghamshire, England; was buried in Bletchley, Buckinghamshire, England.

  2. 16.  Katherine Botetourte Descendancy chart to this point (11.John7, 6.Thomas6, 5.Maud5, 4.Thomas4, 3.Otes3, 2.William2, 1.Otto1) died on 22 Jan 1388.

    Katherine married Thomas Berkeley before 1350. Thomas (son of Maurice de Berkeley and Margery de Vere) was born about 1334 in of Uley, Gloucestershire, England; died before 29 Sep 1361. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 23. Maurice Berkeley  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 1 Jun 1358 in Uley, Gloucestershire, England; died on 2 Oct 1400.

  3. 17.  Joyce Botetourte Descendancy chart to this point (11.John7, 6.Thomas6, 5.Maud5, 4.Thomas4, 3.Otes3, 2.William2, 1.Otto1) was born about 1348; died on 12 Aug 1420.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 13 Aug 1420

    Notes:

    Shown in Ancestral Roots, lines 98, 216, and 230A, as born 1367/68 -- clearly impossible if, as shown in both AR and Royal Ancestry, her son Baldwin was born in 1368.

    Her parents were married by the end of May 1347, so we're assuming that what Weis et al. meant was 1347/48.

    Joyce married Baldwin de Freville before 1368. Baldwin (son of Baldwin de Freville and Ida de Clinton) was born about 1349 in of Tamworth, Warwickshire, England; died on 30 Dec 1387. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 24. Baldwin de Freville  Descendancy chart to this point was born before 20 Nov 1368 in Weoley Castle, Northfield, Worcestershire, England; died on 4 Oct 1400.

    Joyce married Adam de Peshale after 25 May 1388. Adam (son of Adam de Peshale and Joan de Eyton) died on 26 Oct 1419. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 18.  Joan Botetourt Descendancy chart to this point (12.John7, 7.Otes6, 5.Maud5, 4.Thomas4, 3.Otes3, 2.William2, 1.Otto1) died about 1417.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Abt 1429

    Notes:

    Also called Jane, as usual.

    Joan married John Knyvet before 1377. John (son of John Knyvet and Eleanor Basset) was born about 1358 in of Southwick, Northamptonshire, England; died on 4 Dec 1418 in Mendlesham, Suffolk, England; was buried in Mendlesham, Suffolk, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 25. John Knyvet  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1394 in of Southwick, Northamptonshire, England; died on 9 Nov 1445.

  5. 19.  John de Plaiz Descendancy chart to this point (13.Margery7, 8.Ada6, 5.Maud5, 4.Thomas4, 3.Otes3, 2.William2, 1.Otto1) was born before 14 Jan 1343; died on 2 Jun 1389.

    Other Events:

    • Baptised: 14 Jan 1343, Chelsworth, Suffolk, England
    • Alternate death: 1388

    Notes:

    He was with John of Gaunt in the march across France, 1373.

    John married Joan de Stapleton before 4 Oct 1363. Joan (daughter of Miles de Stapleton and Joan de Ingham) died on 2 Sep 1385. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 26. Margaret de Plaiz  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1367; died on 7 Aug 1391; was buried in Weeting, Norfolk, England.

  6. 20.  Elizabeth le Latimer Descendancy chart to this point (14.William7, 9.Elizabeth6, 5.Maud5, 4.Thomas4, 3.Otes3, 2.William2, 1.Otto1) was born about 1357; died on 5 Nov 1395.

    Family/Spouse: John de Neville. John (son of Ralph de Neville and Alice de Audley) was born about 1330; died on 17 Oct 1388 in Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England; was buried in Durham Cathedral, Durham, Durham, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 27. Elizabeth Neville  Descendancy chart to this point

    Elizabeth married Robert de Willoughby before 9 Oct 1381. Robert (son of John de Willoughby and Cecily de Ufford) was born between 1348 and 1350 in of Eresby, Lincolnshire, England; died on 9 Aug 1396; was buried in Spilsby, Lincolnshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]