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August 6, 2015

The building of the centerpiece
Posted by Abi Sutherland at 06:13 PM * 94 comments

Go, gather photons. Seek, and you will find.
Go pluck them where they hang from bowing trees
And cast a silver net upon the seas.
Retrieve them from the depths where they were mined.
Then harvest me some waves (the not-wet kind):
Ensnare them as they drift upon the breeze,
Unthread them from the fuzzy legs of bees,
And tease them from the hedgerows they’ve entwined.
Collect it all in one fluorescent mound,
A massless mass of quanta piled high,
Entangled, incandescent, golden-bright.
Then pull up chairs, my friends, and cluster round.
This is the place to talk, to laugh, to cry,
To sit and celebrate in gathered light.

In prose: this is a thread to plan a Gathering of Light (or more than one) at Sasquan. Do the thing.

Comments on The building of the centerpiece:
#1 ::: Jacque ::: (view all by) ::: August 06, 2015, 06:40 PM:

Hah! First!

Anyone know if Beams will be available?

#2 ::: Xopher Halftongue ::: (view all by) ::: August 06, 2015, 06:50 PM:

If there's enough light, presumably there will be beams.

I'd like to attend. I'm going to be working at the Access desk a lot, but not as much as last year. Just don't make it during the WSFS business meeting.

#3 ::: OtterB ::: (view all by) ::: August 06, 2015, 06:58 PM:

I won't be there, alas, but applause for abi - lovely verse.

#4 ::: Jacque ::: (view all by) ::: August 06, 2015, 07:00 PM:

Xopher: I look at you over my glasses.


#5 ::: Cassy B. ::: (view all by) ::: August 06, 2015, 07:05 PM:

I wish I could make it to Sasquan. Lovely poem, abi.

#6 ::: Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey ::: (view all by) ::: August 06, 2015, 07:05 PM:

Jacque writes in #1:

Anyone know if Beams will be available?

I'm really not allowed to bring any from my workplace. We try not to let them go offsite.

Well, except for the neutrinos. Some go to Minnesota, most go to interstellar space.

#7 ::: Cassy B. ::: (view all by) ::: August 06, 2015, 07:09 PM:

Bill Higgins, but surely they won't notice if you smuggle, say, just two protons from work. You can pick them up at the Proton Storage Barn....


#8 ::: P J Evans ::: (view all by) ::: August 06, 2015, 07:28 PM:

The poem is almost enough to make me want to show up. (Alas, not possible. At least not without a winning lottery ticket.)

#9 ::: Tom Whitmore ::: (view all by) ::: August 06, 2015, 07:49 PM:

I'll be there, but moderately committed to working (and there's a memorial gathering for Bruce Durocher on Friday at 7 in the park -- if folks want more details, I'll post them here). I would love to get to the Gathering for at least a few minutes!

#10 ::: Edmund Schweppe ::: (view all by) ::: August 06, 2015, 08:07 PM:

Sonnets on my tablet make me happy,
Sonnets in my eyes they feel just right,
Sonnets on the front page look so lovely,
Sonnets, they belong on Making Light.

(With apologies to those who dislike Henry John Deutschendorf's music)

#11 ::: brotherguy ::: (view all by) ::: August 06, 2015, 08:08 PM:

I've just finished typing my Sasquan schedule into my computer calendar (it gets copied online at our astronomy blog ) and it's astonishingly busy. Looking forward to it!

In particular, I am lecturing at 9 pm on Wednesday and Higgins and I have a kids' program at 7 pm on Friday, but my other evenings look free. (Well, there's that Hugo thing, too.)

I will make time to follow the light...

#12 ::: Xopher Halftongue ::: (view all by) ::: August 06, 2015, 08:19 PM:

Jacque 4: I look at you over my glasses.

*wide-eyed, innocent look*

#13 ::: jonesnori/Lenore Jones ::: (view all by) ::: August 06, 2015, 09:05 PM:

I'll be there. Same limitations as Xopher. Not sure when we'll be working Access yet, but if we know when the GOL will be we can work around it.

#14 ::: jonesnori/Lenore Jones ::: (view all by) ::: August 06, 2015, 09:06 PM:

Also, Abi, great poem!

#15 ::: Cath ::: (view all by) ::: August 06, 2015, 09:08 PM:

Hey everybody,

For people interested in dinner and/or an afternoon meetup at Sasquan, I can try and facilitate that. I'd like to do one of each.

People have diverse interests and commitments, and no time slot will be good for everyone to attend.
Personally, I don’t want to conflict with the morning business meetings, the Hugo ceremony, and a couple of particular panels. But other people will have different priorities.

I’m going to propose a couple of times that work for me, and ask you to let me know if you’re interested in joining me. But if you can’t, and want to volunteer to host a room party/meet for lunch/drink a beer at a different time, please post that too. I believe multiple opportunities for fun are a good thing.

So my two possible events are:

Thursday dinner – 7 pm or a bit later (so as to give the dealers time to pack up after the 6 pm close)
At a restaurant within walking distance (six blocks or less) of the convention center, destination to be finalized later.

Friday afternoon meetup, 2-4 pm
Hall C social area
Drop by when you can, BYO beverages, snacks, handwork, colouring books, etc.

Please let me know if you are interested in Thursday dinner, Friday afternoon, or both.

Oh, and a bit about me: I was active in Western Canadian fandom in the '90s, mostly conrunning, plus back of house support for On Spec magazine. These days I play in the SCA where my passion is renaissance dance. In my day job I herd cats and organize stuff.

#16 ::: Lee ::: (view all by) ::: August 06, 2015, 09:22 PM:

Cath, #15: Thursday evening is definitely possible for me. Friday afternoon I might be able to drop by briefly, as Katherine Addison's autograph session is at 2:00 and I definitely plan to hit that unless we're swamped in the dealer room and I have to ask KeithS to stand in line for me!

#17 ::: jonesnori/Lenore Jones ::: (view all by) ::: August 06, 2015, 10:34 PM:

Heather Rose Jones is on a panel Thursday at 8pm which I was hoping to get to (and which she will presumably need to be at) - Exploring Orientation and Gender in Fiction. So I'd be torn about Thursday night.

Friday afternoon should work, I hope.

Thanks for arranging the chairs, Cath!

#18 ::: Heather Rose Jones ::: (view all by) ::: August 06, 2015, 11:52 PM:

As jonesnori notes, I have an 8pm panel on Thursday, so a 7pm dinner would be out for me. Any other evening, I have dinner free at this point.

The Friday afternoon doesn't conflict with any of my personal scheduling. (I haven't even begun to think about what else I might want to attend.) And since it would fall shortly after my Kaffee Klatch, there just might be leftover genuine Alpennian Almond Cake available.

(It had occurred to me to wonder whether anyone might be interested in an alternative-to-the-Hugos hanging out session, for those who don't like watching train wrecks.)

#19 ::: Terry Karney ::: (view all by) ::: August 07, 2015, 12:48 AM:

I, alas, will not be present. For those who are fiber inclined there is a lovely fiber shop in Spokane: Paradise Fibers. I belong to their FIber CLub and they both have nice stuff and seem wonderful folks.

#20 ::: Serge Broom ::: (view all by) ::: August 07, 2015, 01:18 AM:

Not going this year.
Next year hopefully.

#21 ::: Steven desJardins ::: (view all by) ::: August 07, 2015, 01:48 AM:

I'll be at the con, and will most likely be able to attend a Gathering at any reasonable time, but I won't get a chance to look at the con schedule until next week.

#22 ::: TomB ::: (view all by) ::: August 07, 2015, 10:47 AM:

Thursday night is a good. Friday night I am working on the Masquerade, which means an early and short dinner.

Most of the time I can be found hanging out in the Lost World Fanzine Lounge. Technically I'm working there. Drop on by! It's next to the bar.

#23 ::: Annie Y ::: (view all by) ::: August 07, 2015, 01:19 PM:

I haven't even looked at schedule yet (traveling and meetings don't leave enough time for me to actually seriously look at that) but I'd love to meet you all. The only commitment I have are the Business Meetings (and probably a LibraryThing meet-up if we get one going again this year) - the rest of the time I will playing it by the ear most likely.

#24 ::: dcb ::: (view all by) ::: August 07, 2015, 01:43 PM:

Abi, that's lovely.

I won't be there, alas - but it was good to meet various people at the GoL and else-con during last year's Loncon.

#25 ::: Chris Battey ::: (view all by) ::: August 07, 2015, 03:16 PM:

I hope to make it to at least one gathering, and possibly both! I'll know more when I've nailed down my schedule...

There will also (probably) be a gathering early in the con specific to the E Pluribus Hugo effort, which will be planned in the EPH planning thread. In addition to the usual gathering business (finally putting faces to screen names!), we'll be doing final coordination for the business meetings, and distributing ribbons and t-shirts (see the other thread if you want a t-shirt!).

#26 ::: Ingvar M ::: (view all by) ::: August 07, 2015, 03:16 PM:

I'll be arriving Spokane on the Wednesday afternoon, departing Spokane the following Tuesday, I don't think I have any ultra-firm plans, but if there's a GoL, I shall try to not have a conflicting schedule this year.

#27 ::: Cath ::: (view all by) ::: August 07, 2015, 05:22 PM:

Abi, that poem is amazing. A long time ago I took a physics degree, and the paradox of "massless mass" made me smile with delight.

I'm glad to hear expressions of interest for both Thursday and Friday. I will be offline until Saturday night, but when I get back in town I'll post a summary list of names who replied to each event. (Emulating iamnothing's process from last year.)

#28 ::: Priscilla King ::: (view all by) ::: August 07, 2015, 06:43 PM:

Dittos #8, #10.

#29 ::: Dori ::: (view all by) ::: August 07, 2015, 07:06 PM:

Tom and I will be at Sasquan. We currently have no scheduled plans at all, so we'll be happy to attend one or both Gatherings.

#30 ::: Cat ::: (view all by) ::: August 07, 2015, 09:02 PM:

That is a wonderful poem, Abi.

I hope you all have a lovely time at Sasquan and at the Gathering(s) of Light.

#31 ::: Jordin ::: (view all by) ::: August 08, 2015, 05:07 AM:

Lovely indeed, Abi.

I should be available most times -- I have a couple of panels, but don't remember when offhand.

I could bring assorted beams and many, many photons, but, alas, most of them are not housebroken and it would be unwise to let them loose even (or especially) among friends.

#32 ::: Cath ::: (view all by) ::: August 08, 2015, 11:33 PM:

It looks like there is enough interest to go forward with both the Thursday and Friday gatherings. By my tally:

Thursday dinner
Bill (my partner)

Friday meetup
Heather Rose Jones

General interest
Tom Whitmore
Steven desJardins
Annie Y
Chris Battey
Ingvar M

I have assumed that every name on each list is tentative at this point. I understand that people are still checking schedules.

Keep on posting for all three, but henceforth I will just track and update the dinner list. It's where I will eventually need a firm head count, so I can book a table. I'll ask for confirmations the Monday or Tuesday before Sasquan.

Speaking of dinner, I'd appreciate your input on where to go. I don't have time to read all the reviews, so suggestions toward a shortlist would be good.

Here's the kind of place I'd like to go to:
- Near the convention centre
- Accessible
- Not super noisy - no sports bars
- Mid-range prices ($10-$15 entrees)
- Menu has GF and at least vegetarian if not vegan food

Is there anything else we should take into consideration?

It might not be possible to meet every single condition, but wherever we go, I'd like to have info available in advance so individuals can decide if it's a good fit.

I went to the Sasquan website and looked at the list of places within two blocks. The first one I clicked on was Saranac.

It looks good to me, assuming it passes the accessiblity check. Thoughts? Other suggestions?

#33 ::: Greg M. ::: (view all by) ::: August 09, 2015, 02:09 AM:

Thursday dinner at 7 PM would work well for me.

Side note: You're all invited to the File770 gathering, Thursday at 530 PM--I officially requested a room from Sasquan, but I don't know where they stuck us. Will report back as soon as I know. :-)

I can't do Friday afternoon (getting workshopped: the first 3500 words of "A Treatise on Hot and Cold: Book 1: A Lot of Deaths," woot!) but please add me to the general interest list as well.

Great poem, Abi!

#34 ::: Lee ::: (view all by) ::: August 09, 2015, 02:24 AM:

Cath, #32: The Monday before the con we'll still be on the road (it's a 3-day drive for us), and Tuesday will be busy with setup. But you can certainly count on me for Thursday dinner, and KeithS will probably be with me.

My question about Saranac would be, is it a sports bar? There are certainly plenty of things on the menu that I would eat; if it passes your criteria, I have no objections.

#35 ::: SunflowerP ::: (view all by) ::: August 09, 2015, 04:54 AM:

Both Thursday dinner and the Friday meetup sound good to me (pending perusal of the schedule).

Saranac sounds lovely, if it meets our accessibility needs.

#36 ::: Jacque ::: (view all by) ::: August 09, 2015, 03:34 PM:

There are probably better ways to do this, but I can't find any that don't require a login, so:

I've posted a Sasquan schedule blank. Download, open in your image manip of choice, black-out the times when you're not available, and email back to me at the address at the bottom of my linked web page.

I will then collate into one image (where the most available spots will be the clearest), and re-upload to my Flickr account.

(Since I can't be there, even virtually, I gotta do something, right?)

#37 ::: Mitchell ::: (view all by) ::: August 09, 2015, 04:11 PM:

Go, gather photons. [...] Collect it all in one fluorescent mound, [...] and celebrate in gathered light.

~ Gathering Light ~

Gather your friends, made of light,
around a fire, for warmth, is light.

Tacky-sweet pine, made of light -
a seedling's trove, of air and light.

Feel Summer Suns, white-hot light,
from fusing ancient's flickered light.

Flowing through dark, stirred by light,
born long ago, in brightest light.

Here gather friends, making light -
the light of warmth, and warmth of light.

#38 ::: Mitchell ::: (view all by) ::: August 09, 2015, 06:37 PM:

Apropos my #37: prompted by lorax and xkcd, I briefly note, for clarity and fun:

Radiated heat is a color of light. With a thermal infrared camera, you can see a cat's warm paw prints across cold floor, and you can paint walls with hot and cold water.

Wood stores sunlight. A tree is made of CO2, water, light, and a bit of ash. When you burn the tree, you get them all back. Though the light is redder.

Sunlight is the marriage pyre of primordial Hydrogens. The Sun is hot. Hot stuff glows. That's sunlight. The Sun hasn't (yet) slowly cooled, because deep inside, some of its Hydrogens have merged, in three-way collisions, as Helium, each releasing a heating flash of light. Those Hydrogens, created shortly after the Big (bright) Bang, variously floated around for ten billion years, before gathering as the Sun.

Almost all Hydrogens were annihilated by their anti-particles shortly after the Bang. All atoms are made of the gathered few survivors.

So in the flash and warmth of a match, you are feeling gathered Summer Sun on a tree, and the gathered sacrifice of (many tons of) objects born when the Universe was still a blaze of light.

#39 ::: Jacque ::: (view all by) ::: August 10, 2015, 11:12 AM:

Mitchell: ::applause::

And welcome! You've clearly answered the Obligatory Question!

#40 ::: Cat ::: (view all by) ::: August 11, 2015, 08:31 AM:

@ Mitchell


#41 ::: Russ ::: (view all by) ::: August 11, 2015, 11:11 AM:

By way of introduction, I am Lee's partner.

At the risk of incurring the wrath of The Spam Correction Examiner, would it be appropriate or permitted for me to mention here that today I am printing a small quantity of T-shirts with a design featuring the letters SJW and the motto "Proudly working towards a better world" inside a vaguely diamond-shaped shield very similar to one most often associated with a certain superhero who wears his red undies on the outside of his blue tights? And that the plan is to make these available at Sasquan? And that those canny enough to mention that they saw this on ML will get a better price than those who fail to do so? And, last but not least, that if sufficient expression of desire for these is received, the quantity available can be increased a bit? (If someone were to ask, I could provide a URL for a mockup of the design; no photos exist yet because the shirts don't either.)

#42 ::: abi ::: (view all by) ::: August 11, 2015, 12:47 PM:

Hi, Russ! Those sound like awesome T-shirts.

#43 ::: jonesnori/Lenore Jones ::: (view all by) ::: August 11, 2015, 02:17 PM:

Cool shirt design! Where will they be available?

#44 ::: Lori Coulson ::: (view all by) ::: August 11, 2015, 02:57 PM:

Russ -- if these should become available by mailorder, I would LOVE one. Supes is one of my favorite superheros.

#45 ::: Serge Broom ::: (view all by) ::: August 11, 2015, 03:17 PM:

Russ @ 41... Will there be any indication on the shirt that 'SJW' stands for 'Single Jewish Woman' and/or 'Short Jewish Woman'?

#46 ::: Lee ::: (view all by) ::: August 11, 2015, 03:24 PM:

There will be a limited number available at Sasquan. They will also be on the website sooner or later, although I can't guarantee that until October -- September is our Month From Hell, with 4 events in 4 consecutive weeks.

Here's a link to the image (not an actual photo, but showing the color; they will be printed on black shirts).

The planned print run will be small unless greater interest is expressed. Speak up or risk having to wait for a reprint that won't happen until after Sasquan. This includes mail-orders; we will print enough to cover any interest expressed here plus a short stack for general purchase. Please note whether or not you'll be wanting to pick yours up at the con.

#47 ::: P J Evans ::: (view all by) ::: August 11, 2015, 03:27 PM:

Lee, that link is getting a '403 Forbidden' error.

#48 ::: Ginger ::: (view all by) ::: August 11, 2015, 03:28 PM:

Would love a tee shirt, won't be at Sasquan (except in spirit!)

#49 ::: Russ ::: (view all by) ::: August 11, 2015, 05:34 PM:

The link should work when clicked now. I had hotlinking blocked, but I've poked a hole in the blockade for the appropriate URL.

#50 ::: Russ ::: (view all by) ::: August 11, 2015, 05:44 PM:


No decodings of SJW will be proposed on the shirt. You may claim the one you prefer, without fear that the shirt will contradict you. And since it will presumably be *your* shirt under discussion at that point, I am loathe to grouse or grumble.

#51 ::: Lee ::: (view all by) ::: August 11, 2015, 06:28 PM:

Also, if you want to have a shirt included in the print run, let us know what size!

#52 ::: David Goldfarb ::: (view all by) ::: August 11, 2015, 08:31 PM:

Russ @41: Hey there, Russ. Since I am an incurable nitpicker, I am forced to point out that the superhero in question has not worn red trunks for several years now. (He's currently sporting jeans and a logo t-shirt, in fact.)

When they first did that, I thought it would be hard to get used to. Somewhat to my surprise, I find that the thing I most miss is the spitcurl. ("It's just not him without that!" says the backbrain.)

#53 ::: Russ ::: (view all by) ::: August 11, 2015, 08:49 PM:


That much variance from canon makes a new canon without invalidating the old one. That's not the real Supe. That's Supe Lite, or SmallvilleSupe, or something. And every poster I saw for Supe at GenCon had him in the traditional garb. In a couple of instances, with addition of details that would never have made it past the Comics Code folks. (And these were people with licensed content to peddle, too.)

#54 ::: Lori Coulson ::: (view all by) ::: August 11, 2015, 09:31 PM:

Lee -- 3X?

#55 ::: jonesnori/Lenore Jones ::: (view all by) ::: August 11, 2015, 11:57 PM:

A 2X each for me and Xopher, please! We'll pick them up at Sasquan.

#56 ::: jonesnori/Lenore Jones ::: (view all by) ::: August 11, 2015, 11:59 PM:

A 2X each for me and Xopher, please! We'll pick them up at Sasquan.

#57 ::: jonesnori/Lenore Jones ::: (view all by) ::: August 12, 2015, 12:00 AM:

Aargh! I only meant to order two shirts, not four. Darn double click.

#58 ::: idgecat ::: (view all by) ::: August 12, 2015, 12:04 AM:

two shirts -- a 2x and a 3x to be picked up by my partner at Sasquan (she's going, I'm not, but I lurk here)

#59 ::: idgecat ::: (view all by) ::: August 12, 2015, 12:06 AM:

oops that's a 2x and a 5x... and I proofread it and still missed the typo *very red face*

#60 ::: SunflowerP ::: (view all by) ::: August 12, 2015, 02:06 AM:

One in size 2X for me, please.

#61 ::: Ginger ::: (view all by) ::: August 12, 2015, 09:35 AM:

Men's 2X and Men's 3X

#62 ::: Lee ::: (view all by) ::: August 12, 2015, 11:16 AM:

One more caveat: If you want your shirt included in this print run, the latest you can order it is this Friday, the 14th, at noon CDT. The remainder of Friday will be spent packing the car, and we leave for Spokane on Saturday morning. (It's a 3-day drive for us, and dealer setup starts on Tuesday.)

Again, there will be some shirts available for general sale at the con, so if you don't see this until after the deadline, you're not necessarily hosed, but we can't guarantee you that your size will be available unless you pre-order. Just mention ML and you'll get the same deal.

#63 ::: gaukler ::: (view all by) ::: August 12, 2015, 04:13 PM:

I can make it for dinner on Thursday. I'll be in the dealer's room at my table during open hours.
Barbara the mostly unpublished author may also be available.
There was a tiny, disjointed GoL at Pennsic. I spoke to Sisule and Tracie (sp for both) on separate days.

#64 ::: Ingvar M ::: (view all by) ::: August 12, 2015, 06:52 PM:

Lee @ #62:

One men's 2X, please.

#65 ::: Cadbury Moose ::: (view all by) ::: August 12, 2015, 07:52 PM:

Lee @#62

One each: Mens XL and 2XL, please.

(The moose is trying to lose weight and 2XL may be big enough to camp out in if all goes well.)

Will need shipping to .uk as I will not be at the con.

#66 ::: TomB ::: (view all by) ::: August 12, 2015, 09:39 PM:

Lee @#62

That suits me to a T.

I am an XL.

#67 ::: Russ ::: (view all by) ::: August 12, 2015, 10:23 PM:

Cadbury Moose @65

Shipping to the UK is amazingly costly from the US these days. Those two shirts would incur US$17.91 in postage via the least overpriced option; International First Class mail. If you're not utterly dismayed by that, we can set up the details when we get back from Sasquan.

#68 ::: janetl ::: (view all by) ::: August 12, 2015, 11:11 PM:

Lee @ 46: I won't be at Sasquan, but will look forward to ordering one October-ish. May your September be survivable and prosperous! I generally wear a men's Medium t-shirt.

#69 ::: Charlie Stross ::: (view all by) ::: August 12, 2015, 11:45 PM:

I've got a complex enough schedule that I won't burden you all with it; let's just say, I'll come if I'm not otherwise occupied at whatever time the rest of you settle on.

Could somebody maybe update the ML announcement with the time/date/location when it's agreed on? Wading through the inevitable 600 comments in search of the final settled venue may not even be possible given what happens to hotel wifi bandwidth when a worldcon comes to town ...

#70 ::: Cadbury Moose ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2015, 03:58 AM:

Russ @ #67

This moose is permanently dismayed by the high cost of US -> UK shipping but has learned to put up with it. (Though importing heavy pieces of WW2 radio kit are no longer feasible.)

USD18 is not unexpected.

#71 ::: abi ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2015, 05:06 AM:

Charlie @69:

I'll either update the OP or make a new front page post when things are clear.

#72 ::: Cath ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2015, 12:04 PM:

Tonight I will check with Saranac about their accessiblity. Then I will post a recap of where the two gatherings are and who has expressed interest for dinner so far. Abi, when do you think would be a good deadline by which to post a header update? Sort out everything we can by next Monday?

Also, my brain does not mesh well with social media, but twitter does look like a good way to communicate last minute changes. My knowledge of the platform is sketchy and theoretical at the moment, but I suppose I could set up a temporary account.

I searched and the following hashtags seem unclaimed.


Would they be useful?

FYI there is a makinglight hashtag but it seems to have nothing to do with this community.

#73 ::: Cath ::: (view all by) ::: August 14, 2015, 12:37 AM:

Gathering of Light update


I have made a reservation for 7:30, Thursday August 20 at Saranac
It is two blocks from the convention centre at 21 W Main. Entrees are $10-$15 with GF and vegan options. The staff person I spoke to tonight told me it's wheelchair accessible.

So far for confirmed diners I have:
Greg M

I did not include those who said they may or might be interested. If you are, please confirm as soon as you can. I'll need to give the restaurant a head count on Wednesday, but if you can tell me sooner the more likely I can expand the reservation. Please make an explicit "I am coming to Thursday dinner" comment if you'd like to be added to the list.

If I missed you or misunderstood a prior note, please comment again.

And I hope this does not all sound too abrupt, but I spent all day packing to move my office and am in a frazzled and task-focussed headspace. The good news is, my vacation starts on Monday!

#74 ::: Cath ::: (view all by) ::: August 14, 2015, 12:47 AM:

Gathering of Light update


Friday afternoon, 2-4 pm
Location is the hall C social area.
Drop by when you can, BYO beverages, snacks, handwork, colouring books, etc.

Not having seen the convention centre yet, I can't be more specific about exactly where. I will take a look on Wednesday, and post a more detailed description. Is there someone here who has seen the layout plans and can make a suggestion?

There will be some kind of banner/stuffed animal/lampstand to identify the gathering point.

#75 ::: P J Evans ::: (view all by) ::: August 14, 2015, 12:47 AM:

Sympathy on packing to move your office. May nothing be lost or broken in the process!

#76 ::: Annie Y ::: (view all by) ::: August 14, 2015, 01:14 AM:


Put me down as confirmed as well. I may end up not saying anything during the dinner but I am planning to be there... for now.

#77 ::: abi ::: (view all by) ::: August 14, 2015, 08:49 AM:

I'll update the original post on Monday with dates and times, or sooner if Cath feels that people have had time to request last-minute changes.

#78 ::: Heather Rose Jones ::: (view all by) ::: August 14, 2015, 01:42 PM:

I've added the Friday afternoon gathering to my calendar and, as previously mentioned, will be bringing any leftover refreshments from my kaffee klatch.

#79 ::: gaukler ::: (view all by) ::: August 14, 2015, 01:47 PM:

Please add Barbara to the Thursday dinner list.

#80 ::: Lee ::: (view all by) ::: August 14, 2015, 02:44 PM:

As a suggestion about the dinner list: when you're making the reservation, make it for 2 or 3 more than are actually expected, just to allow for people who might find out about it late. It's always easier to contract than to expand at the last minute, and restaurants are used to there being no-shows in a large party.

If you've already thought about this, then nevermind. :-)

#81 ::: idgecat ::: (view all by) ::: August 14, 2015, 04:06 PM:

Also, please add Starshadow to the dinner list

#82 ::: Cath ::: (view all by) ::: August 14, 2015, 05:44 PM:

Lee @80

I was thinking the same thing about the reservation :)

As a first pass, I reserved for 12, but I told them I expected more. After I have a head count I will add two, just to be on the safe side.

I have a question about start time, relevant for you as a dealer. Is 7:30 ok? Or is that too long a break? I was estimating half an hour to pack up after the room closes at 6, half hour to collect yourselves and walk to our meet point, then another 15-20 minutes to get to the restaurant.

If 1/2 hour earlier or later would make a big difference to you, please let me know, I can still change it.

#83 ::: Lee ::: (view all by) ::: August 14, 2015, 06:27 PM:

Cath, #82: Actually, 7:30 sounds about right -- better than 7:00, which had me a bit worried. Not only does closing down and packing up the Important Bits take about half an hour (and that's assuming that they do manage to shoo everyone out promptly at 6:00, which is by no means assured!), but we are staying at the Red Lion River Inn, and I need time to get over there, change to my evening outfit, and get back to the CC. If I have to, I can run on ahead and leave my partner to do the actual closing down, but I have no idea of the relative distances involved at this point.

At least the clothes-change itself is uncomplicated, thanks to the selection of my day and evening outfits for Thursday. :-)

#84 ::: Cath ::: (view all by) ::: August 14, 2015, 07:16 PM:

Lee @83

I believe we are in the same hotel! If I remember correctly, it is supposed to be 20 minutes across the bridge. I will keep the start time for dinner at 7:30 pm.

#85 ::: Steven desJardins ::: (view all by) ::: August 14, 2015, 09:28 PM:

Put me down for the Thursday dinner, please.

#86 ::: Cath ::: (view all by) ::: August 14, 2015, 10:38 PM:

P J Evans #75

Thank you for your kind words. My entire program is moving to a different building, so the first thing we all lost yesterday was internet and connection to the client database. The new space has a plumbing issue in the kitchen and the printer stands weren't delivered so the printers are all on the floor for now. But, I won't return until the 26th, so not my problem right now. (Yay!)

#87 ::: Cath ::: (view all by) ::: August 14, 2015, 10:45 PM:

Gathering of Light update

Saranac, 7:30 pm

As of 8 pm MDT Friday Aug 14

Greg M
Annie Y
Steven desJardins

If you'd like to join the dinner expedition, please post an explicit "I am coming to Thursday dinner" comment by Sunday night.

#88 ::: Clifton ::: (view all by) ::: August 15, 2015, 01:45 AM:

I shall not be there, but I shall be there in spirit, wishing you all well.

#89 ::: elise ::: (view all by) ::: August 15, 2015, 02:04 AM:

Please add me to the Thursday dinner. Thank you.


#90 ::: SunflowerP ::: (view all by) ::: August 15, 2015, 03:45 AM:

Cath: I am coming to Thursday dinner.

#91 ::: Barbara Gordon ::: (view all by) ::: August 15, 2015, 09:58 AM:

Hi Cath, thank you so much for taking this on! Just confirming that yes, I will be at Thursday dinner, as gaukler said (thank you, Mark!)

#92 ::: Cath ::: (view all by) ::: August 15, 2015, 11:07 AM:

Gathering of Light update

[FRIDAY MEETUP] * location change *

Friday Aug 21, 2-4 pm
CC 201C

The amazing folks at Sasquan have found us a little meetup room. It holds a couple dozen people, and has chairs but not tables. It will change the environment a bit (more closed in) but on the other hand it's a guaranteed space with a definite location.

It is on the program schedule here:
Making Light Meetup

All hail Laurie Mann, Program Division Head and creator of small miracles!

#93 ::: Cath ::: (view all by) ::: August 15, 2015, 10:39 PM:

Saranac, 7:30 pm

As of 8:30 pm MDT Saturday Aug 15

Greg M
Annie Y
Steven desJardins

There are still seats available; come on over to "The empty place is for Bigfoot" to RSVP.

#94 ::: Ingvar M ::: (view all by) ::: August 19, 2015, 09:20 PM:

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