Nielsen Hayden genealogy
Beatrice de Say
- Bef 11971. Beatrice de Say (daughter of William de Say); died before 19 Apr 1197. Notes:
"[B]uried in Chicksand Priory, but was transferred thence to Shouldham Priory." [Complete Peerage]
Beatrice married Geoffrey fitz Peter before 25 Jan 1185. Geoffrey (son of Peter de Ludgershall and Maud) was born in of Pleshy, Essex, England; died on 14 Oct 1213; was buried in Shouldham Priory, Norfolk, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:- Maud de Mandeville died on 27 Aug 1236.
2. William de Say was born before 1140 in of Kimbolton, Huntingdonshire, England (son of William de Say and Beatrice de Mandeville); died before 1 Aug 1177. Children:
- 1. Beatrice de Say died before 19 Apr 1197.
Generation: 3
4. William de Say (son of Jordan de Say and Lucy de Rumilly); died in Aug 1144 in Burwell, Cambridgeshire, England. Other Events and Attributes:
- Alternate death: Aug 1147
- Alternate death: Abt 1155
Notes:
Allegedly killed at the siege of Burwell Castle. But: "Complete Peerage, vol. 11, p. 464, notes that Henry of Huntingdon says he and Geoffrey de Mandeville, earl of Essex, were killed in August 1144, but note (f) summarises evidence that William survived Geoffrey (who did not die until September 1144). Keats-Rohan, Domesday Descendants, p. 681, refers to the same evidence as proving his survival 'by a few years', and dates his death to c. 1155 (although elsewhere she repeats the traditional date)." [Some Corrections and Additions to the Complete Peerage]
William married Beatrice de Mandeville. Beatrice (daughter of William I de Mandeville and Margaret fitz Eudes) was born about 1105; died before 19 Apr 1197 in Rickling, Saffron, Essex, England; was buried in Walden Abbey, Essex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
5. Beatrice de Mandeville was born about 1105 (daughter of William I de Mandeville and Margaret fitz Eudes); died before 19 Apr 1197 in Rickling, Saffron, Essex, England; was buried in Walden Abbey, Essex, England. Other Events and Attributes:
- Alternate birth: Abt 1100
Children:
- Geoffrey de Say was born in of Edmonton, Middlesex, England; died before 19 May 1214.
- 2. William de Say was born before 1140 in of Kimbolton, Huntingdonshire, England; died before 1 Aug 1177.
Generation: 4
8. Jordan de Say was born in of Aunay-sur-Odon, Calvados, France (son of William de Say and Agnes de Grandmesnil). Jordan married Lucy de Rumilly. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
9. Lucy de Rumilly (daughter of Robert de Rumilly). Notes:
Also called Lucy de Aulnay.
Children:
- 4. William de Say died in Aug 1144 in Burwell, Cambridgeshire, England.
- Agnes de Beaumont
10. William I de Mandeville was born in of Great Waltham, Essex, England (son of Geoffrey I de Mandeville and Adeliza de Balts); died before May 1116. Other Events and Attributes:
- Alternate death: Bef 1130
Notes:
Also called William de Magnivil. Constable of the Tower of London, and thus keeper of the first person known to have been imprisoned there for political reasons, Ranulf Flambard.
William married Margaret fitz Eudes. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
11. Margaret fitz Eudes (daughter of Eudes fitz Hubert and (Unknown first wife of Eudes fitz Hubert)). Notes:
Also called Margaret de Rye or de Ryes.
Children:
- 5. Beatrice de Mandeville was born about 1105; died before 19 Apr 1197 in Rickling, Saffron, Essex, England; was buried in Walden Abbey, Essex, England.