Elias IV Giffard

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• Alternate death: 1249

Notes:

"Ivor West stated, in June 2002, that Elis IV and his sister Bertha were the children of Elis III by an unknown wife, not by Maud." [Chris Phillips, Some Corrections and Additions to the Complete Peerage.]

From Complete Peerage V:639:

Sir John Giffard, of Brimpsfield, Badgeworth, Stonehouse, Stoke Gifford, and Rockhampton, co. Gloucester, Elston, Orcheston St. George, Sherrington, Ashton, and Broughton Gifford, Wilts, son and heir of Sir Elis Giffard, of Brimpsfield, &c. (who died shortly before 2 May 1248) (c), by his 2nd wife, Alice, sister of Sir John Mautravers, of Lytchet Matravers, Dorset.

(c) In 1221 this Elis stated that "Osbertus Giffard, antecessor suusqui venit ad conquestum Angl' tenuit manerium de Bimesfeld' . . . et post eum Elias flius suus . . . et post eum Elias filius illius Elieet pater suus." At least one generation is here omitted. The Elis living in 1221 was son and heir of Elis III, by Maud, daughter of Morice fitz Robert fitz Hardinge, of Berkeley: which Elis III owed 100 marks 'pro fine terre sue' in 1166 and died before Michaelmas 1190, when William le Mareschal owed 140 marks for the custody of the lands of Elis Giffard. Elis III was son and heir of Elis II (who became a monk in Gloucester Abbey), by Berta (living 1167), sister of Walter de Clifford, of Clifford and Glasbury, and daughter of Richard fitz Ponce. In 1130 Elis II rendered account of 100 marks of silver for the relief of his father's lands, being son and heir of Elis I, by Ala, his wife. Before 1096 Elis I had succeeded his father Osbern Giffard, the Domesday tenant of Brimpsfield, Stoke, Rockhampton, Elston, Orcheston, etc.

Family/Spouse: Isabel Musard. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Matilda Giffard
2. Isabel Giffard

Elias married Alice Mautravers before 1231. Alice (daughter of John Mautravers and Hawise) was born in of Lytchett Mautravers, Dorset, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. John Giffard was born about 1232 in of Brimpsfield, Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England; died on 28 May 1299; was buried on 11 Jun 1299 in Malmesbury Abbey, Wiltshire, England.

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate birth: of Brimpsfield, Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England

Notes:

"Elis III m. Maud, daughter of Morice fitz Robert fitz Hardinge, of Berkeley: which Elis III owed 100 marks 'pro fine terre sue' in 1166 and died before Michaelmas 1190, when William le Mareschal owed 140 marks for the custody of the lands of Elis Giffard. Elis III was son and heir of Elis II (who became a monk in Gloucester Abbey), by Berta (living 1167), sister of Walter de Clifford, of Clifford and Glasbury, and daughter of Richard fitz Ponce. In 1130 Elis II rendered account of 100 marks of silver for the relief of his father's lands, being son and heir of Elis I, by Ala, his wife. Before 1096 Elis I had succeeded his father Osbern Giffard, the Domesday tenant of Brimpsfield, Stoke, Rockhampton, Elston, Orcheston, etc." [Complete Peerage V:639, note (c)]

Elias married (Unknown wife of Elias III Giffard). [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: 1162

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Became a monk in Gloucester Abbey.

Elias married Bertha de Clifford. Bertha (daughter of Richard fitz Pons and Maud of Gloucester) was born in of Clifford, Herefordshire, England; died after 1167. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: Aft 1129

Elias married Ala. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate birth: Abt 1080, of Ullingswick, Herefordshire, England

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Also called Richard fitz Ponce. Patron of Malvern Priory.

Richard married Maud of Gloucester. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Also called Maud fitz Walter.

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: Between 1086 and 1096
• Alternate death: Aft 1086
• Alternate death: Bef 1096

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Also called Osberne.

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Also spelled Ponce.

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Also called Walter of Gloucester. In Domesday as a tenant-in-chief. Hereditary sheriff, and probably constable, of Gloucestershire.

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Lord of Longueville.

Osbern married Wevia. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Also called Aveline; Avelina; and (mistakenly) "Wevia de Crepon". Ancestral Roots, just as mistakenly, calls her "of Denmark."

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Sheriff of Gloucestershire; castellan of Gloucester Castle. A protege of William fitz Osbern.