Alice Wolvey

Family/Spouse: Giles de Astley. Giles (son of Andrew de Astley and Sybil) was born in of Wolvey, Warwickshire, England; died between 23 Jun 1314 and 24 Jun 1314 in Bannockburn, Stirlingshire, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Sibyl Astley
2. Thomas de Astley was born before 1306 in of Astley, Warwickshire, England; died about 1389.

Notes:

Also called Thomas de Leycestre de Wolvey.

Thomas married Alice. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Robert married Petronilla de Flamville. Petronilla (daughter of William de Flamville) was born in of Aston Flamville, Leicestershire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Post to SGM by Saba Risaluddin, 4 Jan 2016:

Can anyone confirm or refute my guess that Petronilla's father William de Flamville of Aston Flamville, Leics, was married firstly to Petronilla, daughter of Oliver Sarazin or Sarracenus?

I find the following references (in no particular order) to William de Flamville & his wife Petronilla Sarazin, but so far nothing, other than the name Petronilla, to indicate that Petronilla de Flamville, wife of Robert de Leicester, was their daughter.

Peter R Coss, Lordship, Knighthood and Locality: A Study in English Society, c. 1180 to 1280, 1991, 234: "In the early 1220s William de Flamville functioned as steward to William de Hastings (d. 1224/5). That this is our man is indicated by the fact that he witnessed a Coundon charter for William together with three other knights, one of whom was Oliver Sarazin (or Seutacen), his father-in-law through his first wife."

VCH Warwickshire vol VI, Knightlow Hundred, Willoughby: A certain "Ralph had kept 10 virgates in demesne, and had subinfeudated William Hastang of 2 virgates. He also had enfeoffed Oliver Sarazin of an unspecified amount by service of a sore sparrowhawk, and Oliver had enfeoffed William de Flamvil on his marriage with his daughter Petronilla."

John S. Moore, "Who was 'Mahumet'? Arabs in Angevin England," Prosopon Newsletter, 2000, notes that Oliver Saracenus acquired part of Ralph fitz Wigan's serjeantry at Willoughby, Warwicks, which he gave as dowry with his daughter Petronilla to William de Flamvill (citing F. M. Stenton, Documents Illustrative of the Economic and Social History of the Danelaw (Oxford, 1920), p. 341; P.R. 25 Hen. III, p. 49; Book of Fees, III, 1279).

Living in Sarajevo,which has no reference library where I could consult the reference works that many members of this group have access to, I am limited in my research to trawling the internet - and am indebted to those of you whose postings have often helped me to resolve a dilemma. But so far there appears to be nothing on Oliver Sarazin/Saracenus and his daughter Petronilla.

Happy New Year to all
Saba

[Note by PNH: The paper by John S. Moore referenced above can be viewed here. In a subseqent post to SGM, John Watson points to another article with more detail about the Sarazin/Sarson surname of Leicestershire: W. G. Hoskins, "Leicestershire Yeoman Families and their Pedigrees," Transactions of the Leicestershire Archaeological Society, vol. 23 (1947), pp. 52-53.]