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Christopher Willoughby

Male Abt 1453 - 1499  (~ 45 years)


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Christopher Willoughby was born about 1453 in of Parham, Suffolk, England (son of Robert Willoughby and Cecily Welles); died between 1 Nov 1498 and 13 Jul 1499.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: of Eresby, Lincolnshire, England

    Christopher married Margaret Jenney before 28 Mar 1482. Margaret (daughter of William Jenney and Elizabeth Cawse) died between 1515 and 1516. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Margaret Willoughby died after 14 Nov 1526.
    2. Elizabeth Willoughby was born about 1483.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Robert Willoughby was born in of Parham, Suffolk, England (son of Thomas Willoughby and Joan Arundel); died on 30 May 1465; was buried in Campsey Priory, Suffolk, England.

    Robert married Cecily Welles. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Cecily Welles (daughter of Lionel Welles and Joan Waterton).
    Children:
    1. 1. Christopher Willoughby was born about 1453 in of Parham, Suffolk, England; died between 1 Nov 1498 and 13 Jul 1499.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Thomas Willoughby was born in of Parham, Suffolk, England (son of William Willoughby and Lucy le Strange); died before 1 Jul 1439.

    Thomas married Joan Arundel after 16 Sep 1428. Joan (daughter of Richard Arundel and Alice) was born about 1407; died before 1 Jul 1439. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Joan Arundel was born about 1407 (daughter of Richard Arundel and Alice); died before 1 Jul 1439.
    Children:
    1. 2. Robert Willoughby was born in of Parham, Suffolk, England; died on 30 May 1465; was buried in Campsey Priory, Suffolk, England.

  3. 6.  Lionel Welles was born about 1406 in of Belleau, Lincolnshire, England (son of Eudes Welles and Maud Greystoke); died on 29 Mar 1461 in Towton, Yorkshire, England; was buried in Methley, Yorkshire, England.

    Notes:

    Privy councillor, 1434. Lieutenant of Ireland, 1438-42. Summoned to Parliament 25 Feb 1432 to 30 Jul 1460. Taken prisoner by Yorkists at the battle of Blore Heath. Fought at the second battle of St. Albans. Killed at the battle of Towton.

    Lionel married Joan Waterton on 15 Aug 1417 in St. Oswald's, Methley, Yorkshire, England. Joan (daughter of Robert Waterton and Cecily Fleming) died after 18 Oct 1434; was buried in Methley, Yorkshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 7.  Joan Waterton (daughter of Robert Waterton and Cecily Fleming); died after 18 Oct 1434; was buried in Methley, Yorkshire, England.

    Notes:

    Also called Cecily, probably inaccurately.

    Children:
    1. 3. Cecily Welles
    2. Eleanor Welles died before 1504.
    3. Margaret Welles died on 13 Jul 1480.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  William Willoughby was born about 1370 in of Eresby, Lincolnshire, England (son of Robert de Willoughby and Margery la Zouche); died on 4 Dec 1409 in Edgefield, Norfolk, England; was buried in Spilsby, Lincolnshire, England.

    Notes:

    King's councillor. Summoned to Parliament by writs dated 30 Nov 1396 to 26 Oct 1409. "He was present in the Tower, 29 Sep 1399, at the abdication of Richard II, to whose imprisonment he agreed, 23 Oct. following; and in the Parliament which met in January 1401, when the lands of the Earls of Kent, Huntingdon, and Salisbury were declared forfeit." [Complete Peerage XII/2, p. 662.]

    William married Lucy le Strange after 3 Jan 1383 in Middle, Shropshire, England. Lucy (daughter of Roger le Strange and Aline de Arundel) died after 28 Apr 1398; was buried in Spilsby, Lincolnshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  Lucy le Strange (daughter of Roger le Strange and Aline de Arundel); died after 28 Apr 1398; was buried in Spilsby, Lincolnshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Bef 1402

    Children:
    1. Margery Willoughby died before 22 Oct 1452.
    2. 4. Thomas Willoughby was born in of Parham, Suffolk, England; died before 1 Jul 1439.

  3. 10.  Richard Arundel was born in of Banstead, Surrey, England (son of John de Arundel and Eleanor Mautravers); died on 3 Jun 1419.

    Notes:

    Sheriff of Herefordshire 1404-05, 1407-08, 1412-13. Constable of Rochester castle, Kent, 1400-13. Constable of Bamborough castle, Northumberland, 1403.

    Richard married Alice before 1407. Alice died on 30 Aug 1436. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 11.  Alice died on 30 Aug 1436.
    Children:
    1. 5. Joan Arundel was born about 1407; died before 1 Jul 1439.

  5. 12.  Eudes Welles (son of John Welles and Eleanor Mowbray); died after 1 Feb 1408.

    Notes:

    Also called Ives Welles. He took part in the rebellion of 1405, for which he was fined 100 marks and pardoned 7 Aug 1405.

    Richardson's Royal Ancestry, published in 2013 (citation details below), has him dying before 26 Jul 1417, but in a 2021 post to SGM (citation details below), Richardson says that he "died testate at an unknown date." He cannot have died as late as 26 Jul 1417, since his widow Maud Greystoke married before 6 Oct 1414 (date of fine), as her second husband, Walter Fauconberge.

    Eudes married Maud Greystoke about 1395. Maud (daughter of Ralph de Greystoke and Katherine Clifford) was born about 1380; died after 1437. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  6. 13.  Maud Greystoke was born about 1380 (daughter of Ralph de Greystoke and Katherine Clifford); died after 1437.
    Children:
    1. 6. Lionel Welles was born about 1406 in of Belleau, Lincolnshire, England; died on 29 Mar 1461 in Towton, Yorkshire, England; was buried in Methley, Yorkshire, England.

  7. 14.  Robert Waterton was born in of Methley, Yorkshire, England (son of Richard Waterton and Juliana); died on 17 Jan 1425 in Methley, Yorkshire, England.

    Notes:

    Master of the Horse, Master of the Hounds, Keeper of Pontefract Castle, Bailiff of Hatfield.

    He was an important aide of Henry Bolingbroke, later Henry IV. Beginning as an esquire in the early 1390s, he accompanied Henry to the Baltic in 1392. (Also present on that expedition: TNH ancestor John Waterton, his brother.) He was one of the custodians of Richard II, he played a major role in the defense of the North against the Percys, and he was an executor of Henry’s will. Under Henry V he received fewer offices and appointments but was still entrusted with major tasks, including charge of certain Scottish hostages including James I. He is mentioned in Shakespeare’s Richard II, act 2, scene 1, as one of those who sailed with Bolingbroke from the continent in 1399, although in fact he was already in England and was one of the first to join Henry at Ravenspur.

    Both his parentage and his marital history have been subject to considerable confusion. J. W. Walker’s “The Burghs of Cambridgeshire and Yorkshire and the Watertons of Lincolnshire and Yorkshire” (The Yorkshire Archaeological Journal 30:314, 1931) claimed that he was married only once, to Cecily Fleming, and assigned his first and third wives to his son, also Robert Waterton. This has been thoroughly refuted by subsequent research; Robert Waterton was married first to Joan Everingham, then to Cecily Fleming, then to Margaret Clarell. His namesake son Robert Waterton married Beatrice Clifford. This is what we read in the (most recently updated in 2006) Robert Waterton entry in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, and in other recent scholarship. Of course (at least as of today, 7 Sep 2020), the Robert Waterton Wikipedia article promulgates Walker’s 89-year-old mistake, because Wikipedia. (While at the same time extensively referencing Douglas Richardson’s 2011 Magna Carta Ancestry, which gets it right!)

    Brice Clagett, 4 Jan 2005, post to soc.genealogy.medieval:

    This message reviews various versions of the parentage of Robert Waterton (d. 1425), the father of Joan, Lady Welles.

    Walker’s article in Yorkshire Arch. Journal vol. 30 says that Robert was the third son of William Waterton, of Waterton, and his wife, Elizabeth Newmarch. (To compound the confusion, the article at p. 368 says that Robert was third son of JOHN Waterton, but the pedigree at the end shows that the statement on p. 368 was a careless error.) If the pedigree is accurate, Robert Waterton had royal ancestry through his mother, daughter of Roger Mewmarch of Womersley, Yorkshire, who was son of Adam Newmarch and his wife, Elizabeth, daughter of Sir Roger de Mowbray, 5th feudal Baron of Mowbray.

    Hall’s article in Thoresby Soc. Publications vol. 15 expresses doubt as to where Robert fits into the family, but leans towards the view that he was son of John Waterton, son of William Waterton (who according to the Walker article married Elizabeth Newmarch). This seems more comfortable chronologically, because according to the Walker article William Waterton was alive though not yet of full age in 1316, and Robert was not born until the 1360s.

    Roskell’s History of Parliament sub John Waterton says that it is “demonstrably untrue” that Robert Waterton was son of William, citing a royal pardon of 1398 which says Robert was son of Richard Waterton of Waterton. Walker’s article shows a Richard Waterton (who may have lived at Waterton though he was not the owner of the manor), fl. 1379, dead in 1392, who was a second cousin once removed of William Waterton who (allegedly) married Elizabeth Newmarch.

    ODNB sub Robert Waterton says that Robert was a son of William Waterton and Elizabeth Newmarch, and was “apparently the cousin of Sir Hugh Waterton.” But the same oracle, sub Sir Hugh Waterton, says that Hugh was the second son of William Waterton and Elizabeth Newmarch -- and was a cousin of Robert! Obviously both entries cannot be right.

    What a mess. As far as we can see at the moment, the most likely version is that of the 1398 pardon cited by Roskell. Perhaps Roskell is a bit dogmatic concluding that it is “demonstrably untrue” that Robert was son of William -- surely this would not be the only time that a 14th-century pardon was mistaken as to the name of the pardonee’s father -- but it seems to be the most concrete evidence that we have.

    Robert married Cecily Fleming between 1399 and 1408. Cecily died before 1422. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  8. 15.  Cecily Fleming died before 1422.

    Notes:

    Douglas Richardson, 3 May 2015, post to soc.genealogy.medieval:

    It has been claimed that Cecily Fleming, wife of Robert Waterton the elder [died 1425] was the daughter and heiress of Robert Fleming, Esquire, of Woodhall.

    However, a list of the quarterings of their Dymoke descendants includes the arms of Welles and Waterton but not Fleming [Reference: Lodge, Scrivelsby, the Home of the Champions (1894): 151].

    It may be that the Fleming arms were omitted from the quarterings, or that Cecily Fleming was not an heiress.

    Further study is needed of the quarterings emplyed by the various families that are descend from Cecily (Fleming) Waterton, namely Dymoke, Hoo, Willoughby, and Launde families. If the Fleming arms are excluded the other family quarterings, then the likelihood is good that Cecily Fleming was not an heiress.

    Cecily (Fleming) Waterton is believed to be the sister of Richard Fleming, Bishop of Lincoln [died 1431]. See, for example, Harvey, English in Rome, 1362-1420 (2004): 177-178, available at the following weblink:

    https://books.google.com/books?id=GS6Oh6Gp66wC&pg=PA177

    Dodsworth’s Yorkshire notes: The Wapentake of Agbrigg (1884): 27 gives evidence that Richard Fleming, Bishop of Lincoln [died 1431], was born in Crofton, Yorkshire, a village on the east side of Wakefield, Yorkshire. See the following weblink:

    https://books.google.com/books?id=IrkHAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA27

    Dodsworth specifically states the the church of Crofton, Yorkshire was removed to a different spot in the parish and was “builded by & at the onely charges of Richard Fleming Bp. of Lincolne who was (born) in the same towne at the howse where Mr. Lister now dwelleth.” END OF QUOTE.

    If so, Crofton would presumably be the home parish of Cecily (Fleming) Waterton. And if Dodsworth’s notes are correct, then Richard Fleming was born in a house, not at a manor.

    Dodsworth records that over the south porch of the church in stone “are cutt 2 barrs & 3 fusills in chiefe, on the first barr, a mullett [Fleming].”

    Elsewhere I find that Robert Waterton, Esq. [died 1425] presented Richard Fleming [the future Bishop] to the church of Gosberton, Lincolnshire in 1404. See Kaye, Brief History of the Church & Parish of Gosberton (1897): 35, which may be viewed at the following weblink:

    https://books.google.com/books?id=zfIVAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA35

    Kaye likewise indicates that Robert Waterton, Esq. [died 1425] presented Thomas Toneton/Towton to the church of Gosberton, Lincolnshire in 1402 and 1410.

    Harvey, English in Rome, 1362-1420 (2004): 177-178 cited above indicates that Thomas Towton was master of the hospital of St. Nicholas, Pontefract and rector of Wath-upon-Dearne, Yorkshire. Harvey cites as her source: Storey, Clergy and Common Law, p. 395, fn 314 for Pontefract; Arch. Seld. B 23, f. 128v which calls Thomas Towton “consanguineus” [kinsman] of Robert Waterton.

    Summing up the above findings, it seems rather likely that Cecily (Fleming) Waterton was not an heiress and that her home parish was Crofton, Yorkshire. Evidence has been cited which indicates that Thomas Toneton/Towton was a kinsman of Cecily’s husband, Robert Waterton, Esq.

    Finally I see that Volume 1 of the Register of Richard Fleming, Bishop of Lincoln was recently published in 2009 by the Canterbury and York Society. If someone has access to this and later volumes, perhaps they can check them for references to the Bishop’s family.

    Douglas Richardson, 4 May 2015, post to soc.genealogy.medieval:

    There is some interesting biographical material on Richard Fleming, Bishop of Lincoln [died 1431], the alleged brother of Cecily (Fleming) Waterton, in the book, Watanabe, Nicholas of Cusa - A Companion to his Life and his Times (2011): 125-129.

    On page 129, the author discusses Richard Fleming’s nephew, Robert Fleming, Dean of Lincoln:

    “Robert Fleming, Richard’s nephew and a resident in University College, Oxford, from 1430 to 1443, matriculated at Cologne in 1444 and then went to Padua. Once in Italy, he, like Grey, was attracted to humanism and, after obtaining a degree at Padua, moved to Ferrara to study under Guarino de Verona (1374-1460).”

    The editor of Testamenta Eboracensia 2 (Surtees Soc. 30) (1855): 230 states in a footnote that Richard Fleming, Bishop of Lincoln, was brother to the above mentioned Robert Fleming, Dean of Lincoln [died 1483]. However, Twemlow, Calendar of Entries in the Papal Registers relating to Great Britain and Ireland: Papal Letters 7 (1906): 497 proves that Bishop Richard Fleming was uncle to Robert Fleming, Dean of Lincoln. This record reads as follows:

    “Date: 13 Kal. Feb. 1427 [i.e., 20 Jan. 1427]. To Robert Flemmyng, clerk, of the diocese of York. Dispensation, at his own petition and that of Richard, bishop of Lincoln, whose nephew he is, after he, who is in his tenth year, has reached his twelfth year, to receive and hold any canonry and subdiaconal prebend.” END OF QUOTE.

    There is a helpful biography of Robert Fleming, Dean of Lincoln, in Lumb, Registers of the Parish Church of Methley (Thoresby Soc. 12) (1903): 134, which may be viewed at the following weblink:

    https://books.google.com/books?id=iW0_AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA134

    Assuming that Cecily Fleming, wife of Robert Waterton, Esquire, was the sister of Richard Fleming, Bishop of Lincoln [died 1431], as well as the aunt of Robert Fleming, Dean of Lincoln [died 1483], it is inconceivable that Cecily Fleming was an heiress any time during her lifetime or any time near afterwards, as she had at least one male member of her family living until at least 1483.

    A record concerning the estate of Robert Waterton, Esquire [died 1425] is found in Heriots, &c., on the Wakefield Manor Rolls published in Northern Genealogist 6 (1903): 59. The record reads as follows:

    “1427. Stanley. Robert Waterton, esquire, is dead, and Robert his son and heir pays 18d. heriot.”

    The above record may be viewed at the following weblink:

    http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.32044090345943;view=1up;seq=69

    Given the above record and other evidence which proves that Robert Waterton, Esquire [died 1425] held property at Stanley, Yorkshire, the following Common Pleas record may be of interest:

    In 1422 Simon Flemyng sued William Hobson, of Stanley, Yorkshire, husbandman, and four others in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a trespass [vi et armis] in Stanley, Yorkshire. [Reference: Court of Common Pleas, CP40/647, image 246f available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT1/H6/CP40no647/aCP40no647fronts/IMG_0246.htm].

    Douglas Richardson, 7 May 2015, post to soc.genealogy.medieval:

    I noted earlier this past week that a list of the quarterings of the Dymoke family included the arms of Welles and Waterton, but not Fleming. See Lodge, Scrivelsby, the Home of the Champions (1894): 151.

    I’ve since located a list of the quarterings of the Copley family, which family is likewise descended from Cecily (Fleming) Waterton. As with the Dymoke quarterings, the Copley quarterings include the arms of Welles and Waterton, but not Fleming. See Surrey Archaeological Collections, 3 (1865): 362, available at the following weblink:

    https://books.google.com/books?id=vTUGAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA362

    It may be that the Fleming arms were carelessly omitted from both sets of the quarterings, or it may be that Cecily (Fleming) Waterton was not an heiress at all.

    Since this is the second set of quarterings which has omitted the Fleming arms, it’s looking more and more likely that Cecily (Fleming) Waterton was not an heiress.

    Douglas Richardson, 8 May 2015, post to soc.genealogy.medieval:

    This past week I posted heraldic quarterings for the Dymoke and Copley families, which families are lineal descendants and co-heirs of Robert Waterton, Esq. [died 1425] and his wife, Cecily Fleming. Under normal circumstances, if Cecily Fleming was truly an heiress, or an heiress in her issue, the quarterings should have included the Fleming arms. They did not.

    Below are quartering yet for another branch of Waterton-Fleming family, namely the Berkeley family, of Wymondham, Leicestershire. As with the Dymoke and Copley families, the quarterings include Welles and Waterton, but not Fleming.

    “Berkeley, Wymondham, co. Leicester; Baronetcy 1611, extinct ...., quartering Hamlyn, Delalaunde, Welles, Engaine, and Waterton, Harl. MS. 6183, fo. 5.” [Reference: Papworth, Alphabetical Dictionary of Coats of Arms ... Ordinary of British Armorials (1874): 427].

    Archaeologia Cantiana 26 (1904): 326-327 gives a similar set of heraldic quarterings found at the tomb of Gabriel Livesey [died 1622] and his wife, Anne Sondes. Gabriel Livesey was the son of Robert Livesey, by his 2nd wife, Elizabeth, daughter of Maurice Berkeley, Esq., of Wymondham, Leicestershire. Once again the quarterings contain Welles and Waterton, but not Fleming.

    Lincolnshire Notes & Queries 18 or 19 (1924): 116 includes a description plate of brass containing quarterings for the Metham family, including Welles and Waterton again, but not Fleming.

    Reports and Papers of the Architectural and Archaeological Societies of the Counties of Lincoln and Northampton 8 (1865-66): 11 provides a description of the various heraldic panels found at Spilsby, Lincolnshire at the tomb of Richard Bertie, Esq. [died 1582] and his wife, Katherine Willoughby, Duchess of Suffolk [died 1580]. Katherine Willoughby was a lineal descendant and one of the co-heirs of Robert Waterton, Esq., and his wife, Cecily Fleming. The various panels include various quarterings of the Willoughby family, including Welles and Waterton, but not Fleming.

    So far I’ve located six sets of quarterings for different branches of descendants of Robert Waterton, Esq., and Cecily Fleming. All six quarterings include Welles and Waterton, but not Fleming.

    I conclude on the basis of the heraldic evidence that Cecily (Fleming) Waterton was not an heiress as claimed by Robert Glover, Somerset Herald.

    Children:
    1. 7. Joan Waterton died after 18 Oct 1434; was buried in Methley, Yorkshire, England.


Generation: 5

  1. 16.  Robert de Willoughby was born between 1348 and 1350 in of Eresby, Lincolnshire, England (son of John de Willoughby and Cecily de Ufford); died on 9 Aug 1396; was buried in Spilsby, Lincolnshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1349

    Notes:

    He was summoned to Parliament by writs dated from 20 Jan 1376 to 20 Nov 1394. He served in France and Spain under John of Gaunt.

    Robert married Margery la Zouche before 1 Oct 1369. Margery (daughter of William la Zouche and Elizabeth de Roos) died on 18 Oct 1391; was buried in Spilsby, Lincolnshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 17.  Margery la Zouche (daughter of William la Zouche and Elizabeth de Roos); died on 18 Oct 1391; was buried in Spilsby, Lincolnshire, England.
    Children:
    1. Thomas Willoughby was born in of Boston, Lincolnshire, England; died before 20 Aug 1417.
    2. 8. William Willoughby was born about 1370 in of Eresby, Lincolnshire, England; died on 4 Dec 1409 in Edgefield, Norfolk, England; was buried in Spilsby, Lincolnshire, England.

  3. 18.  Roger le Strange was born between 1326 and 1327 in of Knockin, Shropshire, England (son of Roger le Strange and Maud); died on 23 Aug 1382 in Kenwick's Wood in Ellesmere, Shropshire, England.

    Roger married Aline de Arundel before Jul 1351. Aline (daughter of Edmund Fitz Alan and Alice de Warenne) died on 20 Jan 1386. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 19.  Aline de Arundel (daughter of Edmund Fitz Alan and Alice de Warenne); died on 20 Jan 1386.
    Children:
    1. Joan le Strange died after 16 Oct 1390.
    2. 9. Lucy le Strange died after 28 Apr 1398; was buried in Spilsby, Lincolnshire, England.

  5. 20.  John de Arundel (son of Richard Fitz Alan and Eleanor of Lancaster); died on 15 Dec 1379 in in the Irish Sea; was buried in Lewes Priory, Sussex, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 16 Dec 1379

    Notes:

    Also called John Fitz Alan. Summoned to Parliament 4 Aug 1377. Drowned when his ship was wrecked by a tempest in the Irish Sea.

    John married Eleanor Mautravers on 17 Feb 1359. Eleanor (daughter of John Mautravers and Gwenthlian) was born about 1345; died on 12 Jan 1405; was buried in Lewes Priory, Sussex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  6. 21.  Eleanor Mautravers was born about 1345 (daughter of John Mautravers and Gwenthlian); died on 12 Jan 1405; was buried in Lewes Priory, Sussex, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: 1346
    • Alternate death: 10 Jan 1405

    Notes:

    In 1384 she and her second husband Reynold Cobham divorced due to consanguinity, and subsequently remarried with the proper permissions.

    Children:
    1. 10. Richard Arundel was born in of Banstead, Surrey, England; died on 3 Jun 1419.

  7. 24.  John Welles was born on 20 Apr 1352 in Conisholme, Lincolnshire, England (son of John de Welle and Maud de Ros); died on 26 Aug 1421.

    Notes:

    Or Welle. 5th Lord Welles. He was a lifelong retainer of John of Gaunt, whom he accompanied on the march from Calais to Bordeaux in 1373. He also took part in Richard II's 1385 expedition to Scotland. He was summoned to Parliament by writs from 20 Jan 1376 to 26 Feb 1421.

    John married Eleanor Mowbray before 1368. Eleanor (daughter of John Mowbray and Elizabeth de Segrave) was born before 1361. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  8. 25.  Eleanor Mowbray was born before 1361 (daughter of John Mowbray and Elizabeth de Segrave).
    Children:
    1. Eleanor Welles died after 7 Nov 1458.
    2. 12. Eudes Welles died after 1 Feb 1408.

  9. 26.  Ralph de Greystoke was born on 18 Oct 1353 in Kirkby Ravensworth, Yorkshire, England; was christened on 18 Oct 1353 in Kirkby Ravensworth, Yorkshire, England (son of William de Greystoke and Joan Fitz Hugh); died on 6 Apr 1418.

    Notes:

    He was summoned to Parliament by writs dated 28 Dec 1375 to 5 Oct 1417. He served in the Scottish wars and was taken prisonor by George, Earl of Dunbar, in a skirmish at Horseridge near Glendale ward, Northumberland, in 1380. On 23 Oct 1399 he was one of the lords who assented in Parliament to the secret imprisonment of Richard II.

    Ralph married Katherine Clifford before 1378. Katherine (daughter of Roger de Clifford and Maud de Beauchamp) died on 23 Apr 1413; was buried in Church of the Dominican Friars, York, Yorkshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  10. 27.  Katherine Clifford (daughter of Roger de Clifford and Maud de Beauchamp); died on 23 Apr 1413; was buried in Church of the Dominican Friars, York, Yorkshire, England.
    Children:
    1. Joan Greystoke
    2. 13. Maud Greystoke was born about 1380; died after 1437.
    3. John de Greystoke was born about 1390; died on 8 Aug 1436.

  11. 28.  Richard Waterton (son of William Waterton).

    Richard married Juliana. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  12. 29.  Juliana
    Children:
    1. 14. Robert Waterton was born in of Methley, Yorkshire, England; died on 17 Jan 1425 in Methley, Yorkshire, England.
    2. John Waterton was born about 1365 in of Waterton, Lincolnshire, England; died between 16 Mar 1417 and 5 Nov 1417.


Generation: 6

  1. 32.  John de Willoughby was born before 6 Jan 1329 in of Eresby, Lincolnshire, England; was christened on 6 Jan 1329 in St. James, Spilsby, Lincolnshire, England (son of John de Willoughby and Joan Roscelyn); died on 29 Mar 1372; was buried in Spilsby, Lincolnshire, England.

    Notes:

    Fought at Poitiers, 19 Sep 1365. Summoned to Parliament by writs dated 25 Nov 1350 to 8 Jan 1371.

    John married Cecily de Ufford before 18 Aug 1337. Cecily (daughter of Robert de Ufford and Margaret de Norwich) died before 29 Mar 1372. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 33.  Cecily de Ufford (daughter of Robert de Ufford and Margaret de Norwich); died before 29 Mar 1372.
    Children:
    1. Joan de Willoughby died after 1403.
    2. 16. Robert de Willoughby was born between 1348 and 1350 in of Eresby, Lincolnshire, England; died on 9 Aug 1396; was buried in Spilsby, Lincolnshire, England.

  3. 34.  William la Zouche was born in 1321 in of Harringworth, Northamptonshire, England (son of Eudes la Zouche and Joan Inge); died on 23 Apr 1382; was buried in Biddlesden Abbey, Buckinghamshire, England.

    Notes:

    He was present at the siege of Calais. He was summoned to Parliament by writs beginning 20 Nov 1348.

    William married Elizabeth de Roos before 16 Jul 1334. Elizabeth (daughter of William IV de Ros and Margery de Badlesmere) died on 24 May 1380. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 35.  Elizabeth de Roos (daughter of William IV de Ros and Margery de Badlesmere); died on 24 May 1380.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 24 May 1382

    Children:
    1. 17. Margery la Zouche died on 18 Oct 1391; was buried in Spilsby, Lincolnshire, England.

  5. 36.  Roger le Strange was born on 15 Aug 1301 in of Knockin, Shropshire, England (son of John le Strange and Iseult); died on 29 Jul 1349 in Sedgebrook, Lincolnshire, England.

    Roger married Maud. Maud died before 1344. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  6. 37.  Maud died before 1344.
    Children:
    1. 18. Roger le Strange was born between 1326 and 1327 in of Knockin, Shropshire, England; died on 23 Aug 1382 in Kenwick's Wood in Ellesmere, Shropshire, England.

  7. 38.  Edmund Fitz Alan was born on 1 May 1285 in Marlborough Castle, Wiltshire, Engand (son of Richard Fitz Alan and Alice di Saluzzo); died on 17 Nov 1326 in Hereford, Herefordshire, England; was buried in Haughmond Abbey, Shropshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: 1 May 1285, Marlborough Castle, Wiltshire, England

    Notes:

    Also called Edmund Arundel. Earl of Arundel. An opponent of Gaveston, he became one of the Lords Ordainers, and one of those before whom Gaveston was tried before he was killed. Edmund Fitz Alan was also among the magnates who refused to help Edward II against Scotland, resulting in the disaster at Bannockburn. However, around the time his son Richard was betrothed to Hugh Dispenser the Younger's daughter Isabel, Fitz Alan began a rapprochement with the king. This would ultimately result in Fitz Alan's execution on the order of Roger Mortimer. According to a one account, a blunt sword was ordered, and his beheading took 22 strokes.

    "Though he was never canonised, a cult emerged around the late earl in the 1390s, associating him with the 9th-century martyr king St Edmund. This veneration may have been inspired by a similar cult around his grandson, Richard Fitz Alan, 11th Earl of Arundel, who was executed by Richard II in 1397." [Wikipedia]

    Just to drive home the point that association with the Despensers never works out for anybody, in 1344 his son Richard sought and obtained an anullment from his marriage to Isabel le Despenser, on the grounds that the betrothal had been inflicted on him in childhood and without his consent.

    Edmund married Alice de Warenne after 30 Dec 1304. Alice (daughter of William de Warenne and Joan de Vere) died between 1330 and 23 May 1338. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  8. 39.  Alice de Warenne (daughter of William de Warenne and Joan de Vere); died between 1330 and 23 May 1338.
    Children:
    1. Mary de Arundel died on 29 Aug 1396.
    2. 19. Aline de Arundel died on 20 Jan 1386.
    3. Elizabeth de Arundel died on 11 Mar 1384.
    4. Eleanor de Arundel died before 30 Mar 1347.
    5. Richard Fitz Alan was born about 1313 in of Arundel, Sussex, England; died on 24 Jan 1376 in Arundel, Sussex, England; was buried in Lewes Priory, Sussex, England.

  9. 40.  Richard Fitz Alan was born about 1313 in of Arundel, Sussex, England (son of Edmund Fitz Alan and Alice de Warenne); died on 24 Jan 1376 in Arundel, Sussex, England; was buried in Lewes Priory, Sussex, England.

    Notes:

    "Steward of Scotland, 1326-1336; Justice of North Wales, 1334-1376; Sheriff of Carnarvonshire 1339-1343, 1346-1347; Admiral of the West, 1340-1341 and 1345-1347; Sheriff of Shropshire, 1345-1376; commanded the 2nd division at the battle of Crécy, 26 Aug 1346, and was at the fall of Calais, 1347; assumed the title of Earl of Surrey, 1361, upon the death of his maternal aunt, Joan, widow of John de Warenne, Earl of Surrey." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, citation details below.]

    Called "Copped Hat."

    A pair of memorial effigies depicting Richard Fitz Alan and his second wife Eleanor of Lancaster can be seen at Chichester Cathedral. They lie side by side, a lion at his feet and a dog at hers. In a note of tenderness that makes one wonder if the sculptor knew the couple, he has his right hand ungloved, and her right hand rests lightly upon his.

    These effigies were celebrated in 1956 by Philip Larkin in his poem "An Arundel Tomb," the last lines of which are quoted on Larkin's own Poet's Corner memorial stone in Westminster Abbey.

    Richard married Eleanor of Lancaster on 5 Apr 1345. Eleanor (daughter of Henry of Lancaster and Maud de Chaworth) was born about 1318; died on 11 Jan 1372 in Arundel, Sussex, England; was buried in Lewes Priory, Sussex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  10. 41.  Eleanor of Lancaster was born about 1318 (daughter of Henry of Lancaster and Maud de Chaworth); died on 11 Jan 1372 in Arundel, Sussex, England; was buried in Lewes Priory, Sussex, England.

    Notes:

    In 1341 she was granted £100 yearly for life in consideration of her long attendance on Queen Philippe. She was also granted license to have one course with greyhounds any time she passed through the King's English forests, parks, and warrens, and to carry away any deer taken at that course.

    Children:
    1. Joan Fitz Alan died on 17 Apr 1419.
    2. Alice Fitz Alan died on 17 Mar 1416.
    3. 20. John de Arundel died on 15 Dec 1379 in in the Irish Sea; was buried in Lewes Priory, Sussex, England.
    4. Richard de Arundel was born in 1346; died on 21 Sep 1397 in Cheapside, London, England; was buried in Church of the Austin Friars, London, England.

  11. 42.  John Mautravers (son of John Mautravers and Milicent de Berkeley); died on 22 Jan 1349.

    John married Gwenthlian before 1342. Gwenthlian died between Jul 1364 and 18 Oct 1375. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  12. 43.  Gwenthlian died between Jul 1364 and 18 Oct 1375.

    Notes:

    Also called Wensliana.

    Children:
    1. 21. Eleanor Mautravers was born about 1345; died on 12 Jan 1405; was buried in Lewes Priory, Sussex, England.

  13. 48.  John de Welle was born on 23 Aug 1334 in Bonthorpe, Willoughby, Lincolnshire, England; was christened on 23 Aug 1334 in St. Helen, Willoughby, Lincolnshire, England (son of Adam de Welle and Margaret Bardolf); died on 11 Oct 1361.

    Notes:

    Summoned to Parliament by writ 15 Dec 1357 to 20 Nov 1360. Summoned against the Scots, 1355; overseas, 1359-60.

    John married Maud de Ros. Maud (daughter of William IV de Ros and Margery de Badlesmere) was born about 1331 in of Helmsley, Yorkshire, England; died on 9 Dec 1388. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  14. 49.  Maud de Ros was born about 1331 in of Helmsley, Yorkshire, England (daughter of William IV de Ros and Margery de Badlesmere); died on 9 Dec 1388.

    Notes:

    CP (XII/2, p. 441) calls her "probably da. of William (de Ros), 2nd Lord Ros (of Helmsley)." In this post to SGM, dated 6 Feb 2018, Douglas Richardson assembled a large collection of evidence that she was in fact a a daughter of William de Ros.

    Children:
    1. Anne Welles died before 3 Dec 1399.
    2. Margery Welles was born about 1350 in of Bonthorpe, Lincolnshire, England; died on 29 May 1422.
    3. 24. John Welles was born on 20 Apr 1352 in Conisholme, Lincolnshire, England; died on 26 Aug 1421.

  15. 50.  John Mowbray was born on 25 Jun 1340 in Epworth, Lincolnshire, England (son of John de Mowbray and Joan of Lancaster); died on 17 Jun 1368 in Thrace, near Constantinople; was buried in Church and Convent of St. Mary Draperis of Pera, Constantinople.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: 13 Sep 1340, Bretby, Repton, Derbyshire, England
    • Alternate death: 21 Sep 1368, near Constantinople
    • Alternate death: 9 Oct 1368, near Constantinople

    Notes:

    Summoned to Parliament by writ, 14 Aug 1362 to 20 Jan 1366.

    Killed in battle with the Turks.

    John Mowbray and Elizabeth de Segrave were Gx4-grandparents of Anne Boleyn (d. 1536):

    John de Mowbray = Elizabeth de Segrave
    Thomas de Mowbray = Elizabeth Fitz Alan
    Margaret de Mowbray = Thomas Howard
    John Howard = Katherine de Moleyns
    Thomas Howard = Elizabeth Tilney
    Elizabeth Howard = Thomas Boleyn
    Anne Boleyn = Henry VIII
    Elizabeth I

    Making TNH a sixth cousin to Elizabeth I, fifteen times removed.

    John married Elizabeth de Segrave after 25 Mar 1349. Elizabeth (daughter of John de Segrave and Margaret Marshal) was born on 25 Oct 1338 in Croxton Abbey, Melton Mobray, Leicestershire, England; was christened on 25 Oct 1338 in Croxton Abbey, Melton Mobray, Leicestershire, England; died between 1364 and 1368. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  16. 51.  Elizabeth de Segrave was born on 25 Oct 1338 in Croxton Abbey, Melton Mobray, Leicestershire, England; was christened on 25 Oct 1338 in Croxton Abbey, Melton Mobray, Leicestershire, England (daughter of John de Segrave and Margaret Marshal); died between 1364 and 1368.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Bef 1368
    • Alternate death: 21 Sep 1368
    • Alternate death: 9 Oct 1368
    • Alternate death: Abt 1375

    Notes:

    Suo jure Lady Segrave.

    Notes:

    Married by papal dispensation, being third cousins, both descended from Henry III and Eleanor of Provence.

    Children:
    1. Joan Mowbray died after 1407.
    2. 25. Eleanor Mowbray was born before 1361.
    3. Thomas Mowbray was born on 22 Mar 1368; died on 22 Sep 1399 in Venice, Veneto, Italy; was buried in Venice, Veneto, Italy.

  17. 52.  William de Greystoke was born on 6 Jan 1321 in Grimthorpe, Yorkshire, England; was christened on 6 Jan 1321 in Grimthorpe, Yorkshire, England (son of Ralph de Greystoke and Alice de Audley); died on 10 Jul 1359 in Brancepeth, Durham, England; was buried in Greystoke Church, Greystoke, Cumberland, England.

    Notes:

    He was summoned to Parliament by writs dated 20 Nov 1348 to 15 Dec 1357. He was present at the siege of Calais in 1347.

    William married Joan Fitz Hugh about 9 Oct 1351. Joan (daughter of Henry Fitz Hugh and Joan de Fourneux) died on 1 Sep 1403 in Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England; was buried in Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  18. 53.  Joan Fitz Hugh (daughter of Henry Fitz Hugh and Joan de Fourneux); died on 1 Sep 1403 in Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England; was buried in Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England.
    Children:
    1. 26. Ralph de Greystoke was born on 18 Oct 1353 in Kirkby Ravensworth, Yorkshire, England; was christened on 18 Oct 1353 in Kirkby Ravensworth, Yorkshire, England; died on 6 Apr 1418.

  19. 54.  Roger de Clifford was born on 10 Jul 1333 in of Appleby, Westmorland, England (son of Robert de Clifford and Isabel de Berkeley); died on 13 Jul 1389.

    Notes:

    Hereditary sheriff of Westmorland and of Cumberland. Warden of the East and West Marches of Scotland. Governor of Carlisle Castle.

    Summoned to Parliament from 15 Dec 1356 and 18 Jul 1388. In 1373 he accompanied John of Gaunt to France. He testified in the Scrope-Grosvenor case in 1386.

    Roger married Maud de Beauchamp before 20 Mar 1357. Maud (daughter of Thomas de Beauchamp and Katherine de Mortimer) died in 1403. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  20. 55.  Maud de Beauchamp (daughter of Thomas de Beauchamp and Katherine de Mortimer); died in 1403.
    Children:
    1. Margaret Clifford
    2. Philippe Clifford died after 4 Jul 1405.
    3. 27. Katherine Clifford died on 23 Apr 1413; was buried in Church of the Dominican Friars, York, Yorkshire, England.
    4. Thomas de Clifford was born about 1363; died on 18 Aug 1391.

  21. 56.  William Waterton (son of Ingram de Waterton).
    Children:
    1. 28. Richard Waterton