Ida Grey

Ida married John Cokayne before 1394. John (son of John Cokayne and Cecily de Vernon) was born in of Cockayne Hatley, Bedfordshire, England; died on 22 May 1429; was buried in Cockayne Hatley, Bedfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Elizabeth Cokayne died after 1438.

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• Alternate birth: Abt 1319
• Alternate death: 4 Aug 1388

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Summoned to Parliament by writs dated 15 Mar 1354 to 20 Mar 1388.

Reynold married Eleanor le Strange before 31 Oct 1353. Eleanor (daughter of John le Strange and Ankaret le Boteler) died on 20 Apr 1396. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Summoned to Parliament by writ, 10 Oct 1325 to 15 Nov 1351.

Roger married Elizabeth de Hastings before 1311. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate birth: 25 Jan 1306, of Blackmere, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England

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Also spelled Lestraunge. Summoned to Parliament by writ 23 Oct 1330 to 20 Apr 1344.

"John Lestrange, 2nd Lord (Baron) Strange (of Blackmere), JP (Salop 1332); fought at Crécy 1346; married as her 1st husband Ankaret (married 2nd Sir Thomas de Ferrers and died 8 Oct 1361), daughter of William Boteler, of Wem, Salop, and died 21 July 1349." [Burke's Peerage]

John married Ankaret le Boteler before 20 May 1327. Ankaret (daughter of William le Boteler and Ela de Herdeburgh) died on 8 Oct 1361. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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"Ankaret (married 2nd Sir Thomas de Ferrers and died 8 Oct 1361), daughter of William Boteler, of Wem, Salop." [Burke's Peerage]

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2nd Lord Grey of Wilton. Summoned to Parliament by writ 4 Mar 1309 to 18 Sep 1322. Fought at Bannockburn.

Justiciar of North Wales and Keeper of the King's lands and castles in those parts.

John married Maud de Verdun before 1275 and 1276. Maud (daughter of John de Verdun and Eleanor de Bohun) was born in of Alton Castle, Cheadle, Staffordshire, England; died after 1293. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate birth: 6 May 1262, Allesley, Warwickshire, England
• Alternate death: 20 Feb 1313, Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales
• Alternate death: 5 Apr 1325
• Alternate death: 10 May 1325

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Hereditary Steward of the liberties of the Abbey of Bury St. Edmunds. Seneschal of Aquitaine. Lieutenant & Seneschal of Gascony. "[I]n 1292 claimed third part of Kingdom of Scotland as a gr. s. of Ada, 4th dau. & coh. of David, Earl of Huntingdon; claim rejected." [Ancestral Roots]

CP I:23, footnote (a): George de Cantelou's heirs to the honor of Abergavenny "were his sister Millicent, then of full age and wife of Eudes la Zouche, and his nephew John, the next owner of Abergavenny."

Summoned to Parliament by writs dated 24 Jun 1295 to 8 Jul 1312.

"Sir John de Hastinges, of Abergavenny, s. and h., b. 6 May 1262, at Allesley, co. Warwick. On 12 July 1283 the King took his homage, and he had livery of his father’s lands, and also of his purparty of the lands of George de Cantelou, namely, the castle and honour of Abergavenny, co. Monmouth, the castle of Kilgerran, co. Pembroke, of the lands of St. Clear, co. Carmarthen, Aston, co. Warwick, Barwick, Little Marston, and Stoford, Somerset, and Badmondisfield, Suffolk. In Jan. 1283/4 he was about to go to Scotland. He was on the King’s service in Wales in 1287. In 1292 he claimed a third part of the Kingdom of Scotland, as grandson and h. of Ada, 4th da. and coh. of David, Earl of Huntingdon: his claim was rejected by the judgment delivered at Berwick Castle, on Monday after St. Martin [17 Nov.]. In Jan. 1296/7 he was about to go to Brabant, by the King’s command, in attendance on Margaret, the King’s da., Duchess of Brabant. He was in the Army of Scotland in 1300, being at the siege of Caerlaverock in July the same year. On 2 Feb. 1300/1 he had licence to crenellate his manor and town of Fillongley, co. Warwick. He was sum. for Military Service from 26 June (1294) 22 Edw. I to 18 June (1310) 3 Edw. II to attend the Coronation, 18 Jan. (1307/8) I Edw. II, to a Council 8 Jan. (1308/9) 2 Edw. II, and to Parl. from 24 June (1295) 23 Edw. I to 8 July (1312) 6 Edw. II, by writs directed Johanni de Hastingges, and moreover is recorded to have been present in pleno parliamento domini Regi: on the morrow of Trinity 18 Edw. I [29 May 1290] with other magnates et proceres tunc in parliamento existentes, whereby he is held to have become Lord Hastinges. As Johannes de Hastinges Dominus de Bergeveni he took part in the Barons’ Letter to the Pope, 12 Feb. 1300/1. On 23 Aug. 1302 he was appointed Lieutenant and Seneschal of Gascony, during pleasure: he held the office till Aug. or Sep. 1104. On 22 May 1306 the King granted to him and his heirs the county of Menteith (except the land in that county which the King had previously granted to Edmund de Hastinges), forfeited by Alan, late Earl of Menteith, the King’s rebel and enemy. On 15 Mar. 1308/9 he had licence to grant, in fee, to John, his son, the manor of Aston Cantlow, the castle and town of Kilgerran, and other lands in Wales. He was re-appointed Lieutenant and Seneschal of Gascony, 24 Oct. 1309, during pleasure, and on 16 Nov. following had licence to set out from Dover with his household, horses, armour, silver vessels, &c.; he sur­rendered his office in the latter half of 1311. He m., firstly, at Braxted, Essex or Blunham, Beds, Isabel, da. of William (de Valnce), Earl of Pembroke, by Joan, da. of Sir Warin de Munchanesy, of Swanscombe, Kent, Winfarthing and Gooderstone, Norfolk, &c. She d. 5 Oct. 1305, and was bur. in Coventry Priory. He m., 2ndly, Isabel, da. of Hugh (le Despenser), Earl lf Winchester, by Isabel, da. of William (de Beauchamp), Earl of Warwick. He d. 10 Feb. 1312/3. His widow had livery of her dower, 11 Apr. 1313, and of the knights’ fees and advowsons of her dower, 20 Nov. following, all of which had been assigned to her by the King. She m., 2ndly, as 2nd wife, Sir Ralph de Mounthermer, sometime Earl of Gloucester: as royal licence had not been obtained for this marriage, on 20 Nov. 1318 and again on 2 Jan. following, the lands they held in dower were taken into the King’s hand. They were pardoned and their lands were restored to them, 12 Aug. 1319, for a fine of 1,000 marks: which also they were pardoned on 18 May 1321. She had charge of two of the King's daughters from Michaelmas 1324. Ralph d. 5 Apr. 1325, and was bur. in the Church of the Grey Friars at Salisbury, aged 63. Will pr. and enrolled, Monday before St. Margaret 1325, in the Court of Husting, London. She d. 4. or 5 Dec. 1334." [Complete Peerage VI:346-39]

John married Isabel de Valence after 15 Jul 1275. Isabel (daughter of William de Valence and Joan de Munchensy) died on 3 Oct 1305; was buried in Grey Friars, Coventry, Warwickshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate death: 5 Oct 1305

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• Alternate death: Bef 24 Jan 1324
• Alternate death: 1 Feb 1324
• Alternate death: 23 Jan 1325

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Seneschal of Aquitaine, 26 May 1322. Field commander for Edwards I and II in Scotland and France. Summoned to Parliament by writ 4 Mar 1309.

"Fulk Lestrange, 1st Lord (Baron) Strange (of Blackmere), so created by writ of summons to Parliament 4 March 1308/9; served in Edward I's and Edward II's Scottish campaigns 1298-1323; Seneschal of Aquitaine 1322; married Eleanor (predeceased her husband), daughter of John Giffard, of Brimsfield, Glos. 1st Lord (Baron) Giffard, and died by 23 Jan 1323/4." [Burke's Peerage]

Fulke married Eleanor Giffard before 1301. Eleanor (daughter of John Giffard and Maud de Clifford) was born in 1275 in of Brimpsfield, Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England; died before 23 Jan 1324. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate death: Bef 1325

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Eleanor (predeceased her husband), daughter of John Giffard, of Brimsfield, Glos. 1st Lord (Baron) Giffard. [Burke's Peerage]

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Also spelled Le Botiller. "Her served as a Justce of Assize, a Conservator of the Peace, and Commander of levies, in addition to being an MP." [Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell, citation details below.]

"William le Botiler of Wem and Oversley, next brother and heir, born 11 June 1274. He had livery of his brother's lands 8 April 1296, and having served in the wars with Scotland, was summoned to Parliament 10 March 1307/8 to 10 October 1325, by writs directed Willelmo le Botiller (or sometimes le Butiller) de Wemme, whereby he be held to have become Lord le Botiller. He m. 1stly, before 1298, Beatrice, who was living in 1305-06. He m., 2ndly, before February 1315/6, Ela daughter and coheir of Roger of Herdeburgh. He d. 1334, before 14 September. His widow was living 5 July 1343, and d. s.p.m." [Complete Peerage II:232]

William married Ela de Herdeburgh before 1310. Ela (daughter of Roger de Herdeburgh and Ida de Odingsells) died after 5 Jul 1343. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate birth: of Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales

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Justiciar of Chester. "Summoned to Parl. 1290 or before" [Complete Peerage V, "Pedigree of Grey" chart.]

"Sheriff of Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire, 1265-1266; Justice of Chester, Constable of Chester Castle, and Sheriff of Cheshire 1270-1274.; Justice of Chester and Keeper of Cheshire 1281-1299. Fought in the Welsh War of 1277 when he was a knight banneret and at the battle of Falkirk, 22 July 1298." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, citation details below.]

Despite the spelling difference, he is the Grey after whom Gray's Inn, one of the Inns of Court, is named.

Reynold married Maud de Longchamp. Maud (daughter of Henry de Longchamp and Joan) was born in of Wilton, Herefordshire, England; died before 21 Nov 1302. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate death: 21 Nov 1302

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• Alternate death: 21 Oct 1274

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Also called Sir John le Botiller; Sir John le Boteler; John le Botiller de Verdun.

Ally of the King against Simon de Montfort. Went to Sicily, 1271, on crusade with Lord Edward (later Edward I).

The Wallop Family claims that has was "slain in Ireland", a circumstance and place not mentioned in RA. CP says "He is said to have d. 21 Oct 1274" and footnotes this with: "Though the writ appears to have been issued, 17 Oct. [...] According to the Annals of Clonmacnoise, he and 13 knights were poisoned together in England."

John married Eleanor de Bohun before 1267. Eleanor (daughter of Humphrey de Bohun and Maud of Avenbury) died after 10 Jun 1278. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate death: Aft 1276

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"Sometime after [10 Jun 1278], members of Eleanor's household petitioned the king, stating that she was mad and an imbecile, and requested a suitable wardship for her." [Royal Ancestry]

Peter Stewart, 2 Dec 2020, post to soc.genealogy.medieval:

There is no question that [Humphrey de Bohun, d. 1265, and his wife Eleanor de Briouze] did have a daughter named Eleanor, but she was the second wife of Robert de Ferrers, 6th earl of Derby, from June 1269 whereas the other Eleanor de Bohun, wife of John de Verdon, was widowed in 1274. The latter couple had a son named Humphrey—presumably after her father—born on 4 June 1267, and she had the Verdon and Bohun bearings on her seal. The Eleanor married to Robert de Ferrers was described as sister to Humphrey de Bohun, 3rd earl of Hereford (son of Humphrey who died in 1265 by Eleanor de Braiose) in the close roll for 1290 (Edward I, vol 3 p. 119: "Humphrey de Bohun, earl of Hereford, and Eleanor de Ferrariis, his sister, acknowledge that they owe to Robert de Tibotot and Matthew de Columbariis, the king’s butler, 200l.; to be levied, in default of payment, of their lands and chattels in cos. Hereford and Essex"). Two witnesses at the IPM of this Eleanor's son John, 1st lord Ferrers of Chartley, quoted in CP vol. 5 pp. 305-306 note (d), placed her as the granddaughter of Humphrey de Bohun who was clearly the 2nd earl of Hereford and 7th of Essex.

The most likely answer seems to me that John de Verdon's wife Eleanor de Bohun was a paternal half-sister of Humphrey the husband of Eleanor de Braiose, i.e. a daughter of the 2nd earl of Herford by his second wife, Maud de Avenbury. This would account for her evident family connection as well as the chronology placing her apparently around 20 years younger than the daughters of the 2nd earl by his first wife, Maud de Lusignan.

The double Verdon-Bohun marriages posited by [Mark S. Hagger, The Fortunes of a Norman Family, The Verduns in England, Ireland, and Wales, 1066-1316], including his Matilda who was actually named Margery or Margaret to John's son Theobald I, are somewhat downscale socio-politically from the Ferrers marriage of the 3rd earl's sister. Maybe Margery was also a near-contemporary half-blood aunt of the 3rd earl, another daughter of the 2nd earl by Maud de Avenbury. At any rate Hagger's placing her as a sister of the third earl would entail a second-cousin marriage between her son Theobald II de Verdon and Maud de Mortimer, both in that case great-grandchildren of William de Braiose and Eve Marshal.

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• Alternate birth: Abt 1235, of Cavendish, Leicestershire, England
• Alternate death: Bef 4 Mar 1269
• Alternate death: Bef 5 Mar 1269

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Constable of Winchester Castle; hereditary Steward of the Abbey of Bury St. Edmunds. One of the leaders of the baronial army at Lewes. Wounded and taken prisoner at Evesham.

Summoned to Parliament by writ 24 Dec 1264.

"Sir Henry de Hastinges, of Ashill, Norfolk, s. and h. of Sir Henry de Hastinges, of the same (who d. shortly before 9 Aug. 1250), by Ada, 4th da. of David, Earl of Huntingdon. On 10 May 1256 the King took his homage, and he had livery of his father’s lands. He was one of the leaders of the baronial army at the battle of Lewes, 14 May 1264: he was knighted by Simon de Montfort before that battle. He was one of those prohibited, 16 Feb. 1264/5, from taking part in the tournament at Dunstaple, and ordered to attend a Council on the morrow of Ash Wednesday [19 Feb.] following. On 3 June 1265 he was appointed Constable of the castle at Winchester, during pleasure, in succession to Humphrey de Bohun. At the battle of Evesham, 4 Aug. 1265, he was wounded and taken prisoner. On 18 Jan. and 18 Feb. 1265/6, when he was still in prison, the King granted to his wife, Joan, for the maintenance ofher­self and her children, her husband’s lands in Blunham, Beds, Nailstone and Burbage, co. Leicester, Fillongley, co. Warwick, and elsewhere. With John de la Warre he defended Kenilworth Castle during the siege by the King, from 27 June till its surrender on the Feast of St. Lucy [13 Dec.] 1266. By the Dictum of Kenilworth his lands were sub­jected to the penalty of 7 years’ purchase. He was sum. for Military Service from 1 Aug. (1260) 44 Hen. III to 25 May (1263) 47 Hen. III, and to Parl. 24 Dec. (1264) 49 Hen. III, by writs directed Henrico de Hasting. He m. Joan, sister and coh. of Sir George de Cantelou, Lord of Abergavenny, and da. of Sir William de Cantelou, of Calne, Wilts, and Aston Cantlow, co. Warwick, by Eve, 3rd da. and coh. of Sir William de Braiose, Lord of Totnes, Brecknock and Abergavenny. He d. shortly before 5 Mar. 1268/9. His Widow d. before June 1271." [Complete Peerage VI:345-6]

"He was one of the most violent of the Barons in arms against Henry III and for his excesses upon the Church and Clergy was excommunicated by Archbishop Boniface of Canterbury." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, citation details below.]

Henry married Joan de Cantelowe before 1262. Joan (daughter of William III de Cantelowe and Eve de Briouze) was born in of Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales; died after 1269. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate death: Bef Jun 1271

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CP I:23, calls her "sister and coh. of the last owner of Abergavenny [George de Cantelou]."

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• Alternate birth: Abt 1226
• Alternate birth: Aft 1225, Valence, Couhé-Vérac, Vienne, Poitou, France
• Alternate death: Bef 18 May 1296

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Also called Guillaume de Lusignan; Guillaume de Valence.

Seigneur of Valence; Constable of Goodrich and Pembroke Castles 1247; Warden of the Town and the Castle of Hertford 1247, 1251; Steward of the Manors of Stamford and Grantham, Lincolnshire 1258; Privy Councillor; Constable of Kilgarren Castle 1275; Seneschal of the Agenois 1279; Constable and Keeper of Bergevenny Castle 1281; Constable of Kilgaren Castle 1282; Guardian and Lieutenant of England 1285; and, in right of his wife, Lord (sometimes styled Earl) of Pembroke, and Lord of the Towns of Ross, Carnbothe, and Clumene, co. Wexford, Ireland.

From Wikipedia:

"William de Valence (died 18 May 1296), born Guillaume de Lusignan, was a French nobleman and knight who became important in English politics due to his relationship to Henry III. He was heavily involved in the Second Barons' War, supporting the King and Prince Edward against the rebels led by Simon de Montfort. [...]

"He was the fourth son of Isabella of Angoulême, widow of king John of England, and her second husband, Hugh X of Lusignan, Count of La Marche, and was thus a half-brother to Henry III of England, and uncle to Edward I. William was born in the Cistercian abbey in Valence, Couhé-Vérac, Vienne, Poitou, near Lusignan, sometime in the late 1220s (his elder sister Alice was born in 1224).

"The French conquest of Poitou in 1246 created great difficulties for William's family, and so he and his brothers, Guy de Lusignan and Aymer, accepted Henry III's invitation to come to England in 1247. The king found important positions for all of them; William was soon married to a great heiress, Joan de Munchensi or Munchensy [...]

"This favouritism to royal relatives was unpopular with many of the English nobility, a discontent which would culminate in the Second Barons' War. It did not take long for William to make enemies in England. From his new lands in South Wales, he tried to regain the palatine rights which had been attached to the Earldom of Pembroke, but his energies were not confined to this. The King heaped lands and honours upon him, and he was soon thoroughly hated as one of the most prominent of the rapacious foreigners. Moreover, some trouble in Wales led to a quarrel between him and Simon de Montfort, who was to become the figurehead for the rebels. He refused to comply with the provisions imposed on the King at Oxford in 1258, and took refuge in Wolvesey Castle at Winchester, where he was besieged and compelled to surrender and leave the country.

"However, in 1259 William and de Montfort were formally reconciled in Paris, and in 1261 Valence was again in England and once more enjoying the royal favour. He fought for Henry at the disastrous Battle of Lewes, and after the defeat again fled to France, while de Montfort ruled England. However, by 1265 he was back, landing in Pembrokeshire, and taking part in the Siege of Gloucester and the final royalist victory at Evesham. After the battle he was restored to his estates and accompanied Prince Edward, afterwards Edward I, to Palestine.

"From his base in Pembrokeshire he was a mainstay of the English campaigns against Llywelyn ap Gruffudd and later Dafydd ap Gruffudd; in the war of 1282-3 that led to the conquest of Wales he negotiated the surrender of one of Dafydd's last remaining castles, Castell-y-Bere, with its custodian, Cynfrig ap Madog. He also went several times to France on public business and he was one of Edward's representatives in the famous suit over the succession to the crown of Scotland in 1291 and 1292."

William married Joan de Munchensy on 13 Aug 1247. Joan (daughter of Warin de Munchensy and Joan Marshal) died before 30 Sep 1307. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate death: Bef 20 Sep 1307

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Walter Rye (citation details below) erroneously has her as a daughter of her father's second wife, Denise de Anesty.

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• Alternate death: Bef 13 Oct 1276

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"Robert Lestrange; acquired Chawton after death of his brother Hamon, and Wrockwardine in the latter's lifetime; married Eleanor, daughter and coheir of William de Blancminster (modern Whitechurch, Salop) and predeceased her 12 Oct 1276." [Burke's Peerage]

Crusader about 1270, according to AR.

Robert married Eleanor Blancminster about 1250. Eleanor (daughter of William Blancminster and Eve Fitzwarine) was born in of Whitchurch, Shropshire, England; died after 1276. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Alternate death: Aft 1300
• Alternate death: Abt 1304
• Alternate death: 1306, Ercall Magna, Shropshire, England

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This family of Whitchurch in Shropshire is also called Blanchminster, Blauminster, Blancmostiers, Whitchurch, de Albo Monasterio, and "the Warennes of Whitchurch."

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• Alternate death: 29 May 1299, Boyton, Wiltshire, England

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From Complete Peerage V:639:

Sir John Giffard, of Brimpsfield, Badgeworth, Stonehouse, Stoke Gifford, and Rockhampton, co. Gloucester, Elston, Orcheston St. George, Sherrington, Ashton, and Broughton Gifford, Wilts, son and heir of Sir Elis Giffard, of Brimpsfield, &c. (who died shortly before 2 May 1248) (c1), by his 2nd wife, Alice, sister of Sir John Mautravers, of Lytchet Matravers, Dorset (a). He was aged 16, or 16 and more, at his father's death (b1). With several other barons, he seized the Bishop of Hereford, 11 June 1263, and took him to Eardisley Castle. On 18 August following, he was among those who made a treaty with Edward, the King's son. He had just been appointed, 7 August, by the advice of the Magnates of the Council, Keeper of the castle of St. Briavel and the forest of Dean, during pleasure, and he was pardoned, 18 September following, for all trespasses committed by reason of non-observance of the Provisions of Oxford. He was appointed joint Keeper of the counties of Gloucester, Worcester, and Hereford, 24 December 1263. In 1264 he belonged to the baronial party, and in April, being in command at Kenilworth, he surprised and destroyed Warwick Castle, taking the Earl and Countess prisoners. On 14 May following he was at the battle of Lewes, where he was taken prisoner early in the day, but he had already captured William la Zuche. He was one of those prohibited, 16 February 1264/5, from taking part in the tournament at Dunstaple, and ordered to attend a Council on the morrow of Ash Wednesday [19 February] following. He changed sides together with the Earl of Gloucester and others, and was in the King's army at the battle of Evesham, 4 August 1265. In consideration of his services at this battle, he was pardoned, 9 Oct. 1265, for having adhered to Simon de Montfort at the battle of Lewes, and for all other trespasses committed up to the said 9 October. He was one of the commissioners empowered, 24 April 1274, to make a truce at the ford of Montgomery, in a month from Easter [29 April], between Llewelyn ab Gruffyd, Prince of Wales, and Humphrey de Bohun of Brecknock. On 6 November 1281 he had licence to hunt wolves, with his own hounds, throughout all the King's forests in England. He was appointed Keeper of the castle of Llandovery, co. Carmarthen, 9 April 1282, and of that of Builth, co. Brecknock, 14 October following, both during pleasure. On 18 November 1283 the King granted him, in fee, the commote of Iscennen, co. Carmarthen, to hold by the service of a knight's fee: and, on 8 February 1289/90, the castle of Dynevor in that county, for life, as a refuge for himself and his men: he was ordered to deliver this castle to Walter de Pederton, 29 July 1297. He was present at the assemblies held at Berwick in October and November 1297, to discuss the various claims to the Crown of Scotland. He was Captain of Podensac in Gascony, which town he surrendered to the French, in 1294/5. He was summoned for Military Service from 18 July 1257 to 7 May 1299, to attend the King at Shrewsbury, 28 June 1283, to attend the King at Salisbury, 26 January 1296/7, to a Military Council, 20 August 1297,and to Parliament from 24 June 1295. to 10 April 1299, by writs directed Johanni Giffard, or Gyffard, occasionally with the additionde Brimmesfeld', whereby he is held to have become Lord Giffard.

He was affianced, at the age of 4 years, to Aubrey de Caumville (who was about the same age), but he did not marry her (b2). He married, 1stly, Maud [c2], widow of Sir William Lungespee, of Amesbury, Aldbourne, and Trowbridge, Wilts, Canford, Dorset, Bicester, Oxon; Brattleby, co., Lincoln, &c. (who died between 23 December 1256 and 3 January 1256/7], and daughter and heir of Sir Walter de Clifford, of Clifford co. Hereford, Cortham, Salop, &c., by Margaret, daughter of Llewelyn ab Iorwerth, Prince of North Wales. She, who was living 1 December 1281, died s.p.m., not long afterwards. He married, 2ndly, in 1286, Margaret, widow of Sir John de Neville, of Hallingbury, Wethersfield, Great Totham, Great Wakering and Langharn, Essex, Alphington, Devon, &c. who died shortly before 20 May 1282. He died at Boyton, Wilts, 29 May, and was buried 11 June 1299 in Malmesbury Abbey. His widow's dower was ordered to be assigned, 1 August 1299, and on 5 August she was assigned the manors of Stonehouse, Stoke Gifford, Elston, and Broughton Gifford. She died shortly before 13 December 1338.

(c1) In 1221 this Elis stated that "Osbertus Giffard, antecessor suusqui venit ad conquestum Angl' tenuit manerium de Bimesfeld' . . . et post eum Elias flius suus . . . et post eum Elias filius illius Elieet pater suus." At least one generation is here omitted. The Elis living in 1221 was son and heir of Elis III, by Maud, daughter of Morice fitz Robert fitz Hardinge, of Berkeley: which Elis III owed 100 marks 'pro fine terre sue' in 1166 and died before Michaelmas 1190, when William le Mareschal owed 140 marks for the custody of the lands of Elis Giffard. Elis III was son and heir of Elis II (who became a monk in Gloucester Abbey), by Berta (living 1167), sister of Walter de Clifford, of Clifford and Glasbury, and daughter of Richard fitzPonce. In 1130 Elis II rendered account of 100 marks of silver for the relief of his father's lands, being son and heir of Elis I, by Ala, his wife. Before 1096 Elis I had succeeded his father Osbern Giffard, the Domesday tenant of Brimpsfield, Stoke, Rockhampton, Elston, Orcheston, etc.

(a) John Mautravers gave the manor of Ashton and the advowson of the church of St. Peter at Codford, Wilts, to Elis Giffard in free marriage with Alice his sister, to hold to them and their heirs of their bodies, by the service of a knight's fee.

(b1) "Elias Giffard". He held the manor of Winterburne (now Elston), of the King in chief, as the head of his barony; the manor of Sherrington pertaining to that barony; and that of Ashton, held ofJ ohn Mautravers in free marriage. Heir [name cut away] his son aged 16 [rest cut away]. The proof of age of this heir, John Giffard, is undated and defective, but it states that he was born on the day of St. Wulstan (19 Jan).

(b2) So the proof of age mentioned above. She was probably the Aubrey de Canville, a nun of Polesworth, who was elected Abbess in Dec 1276 or in the following month. The marriage was contracted at Arrow, co. Warwick, and she must have been a daughter of Thomas de Camville, of Arrow, and a descendant of Aubrey Marmion, Lady of Arrow, wife of William de Caumville.

John married Maud de Clifford before 10 Mar 1271. Maud (daughter of Walter IV de Clifford and Margaret ferch Llywelyn) was born in of Clifford, Herefordshire, England; died between 1282 and 1285. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: Aft 1 Dec 1281
• Alternate death: 1282

Notes:

"He [John Giffard] married, 1stly, Maud, widow of Sir William Lungespee, of Amesbury, Aldbourne, and Trowbridge, Wilts, Canford, Dorset, Bicester, Oxon; Brattleby, co., Lincoln, &c. (who died between 23 December 1256 and 3 January 1256/7), and daughter and heir of Sir Walter de Clifford, of Clifford co. Hereford, Cortham, Salop, &c., by Margaret, daughter of Llewelyn ab Iorwerth, Prince of North Wales. She, who was living 1 December 1281, died s.p.m., not long afterwards." [Complete Peerage V:639-44]

[footnote in CP to the above:] Maud Lungespee notified the King that John Giffard had abducted her from her manor of Canford, Dorset, and taken her against her will to his castle of Brimpsfield, and there detained her. John appeared before the King, and professed himself ready to prove that he did not abduct her against her will, and offered a fine of 300 marks for the marriage already contracted, as it was said, between them, provided she made no further complaint against him. On 10 March 1270/1 the King ordained that if she were not content, the said fine should be void,and John should stand his trial at a month from Easter. And as she was too unwell to appear before the King, commissioners were sent to inquire into the truth of the matter, and to certify the King thereof. John and Maud, and her Ist husband, William Lungespee, were all descended from Richard fitz Ponce. Why John Giffard should have referred to himself as being of the race of Le Lungespee as in the proof of age mentioned above he is said to have done--is not explicable; unless, indeed, the sobriquet was derived from the family of Clifford.

Notes:

Complete Peerage II: 231:

"William le Botiler of Wem, Salop, son & heir of Ralph le Botiler of Oversley, co. Warwick, by Maud, daughter & heir of William Pantulf of Wem. He succeeded his father shortly before 3 July 1281 He was summoned cum equis et armis, 24 May 1282 and 14 March 1282/3, and to attend the King at Shrewsbury, 28 July 1283, by writs directed Willelmo le Botiler (or le Botiller) de Wemme.

"He married, after 2 October 1261, Angharad, daughter of Griffith ap Madoc ap Griffith Maelor, Lord of Bromfield, Dinas Bran and Yale (now co. Denbigh), i.e. of Lower Powis, by Emma, daughter of Henry AUDLEY, of Heleigh, co. Stafford. He died shortly before 11 December 1283. His widow, to whom dower was ordered to be assigned, 8 February 1283/4, was living 22 July 1308."

Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages:

"William Boteler, who, in the lifetime of his father, had m. Ankaret, niece of James de Aldithley, died, however, in a very few years after inheriting his paternal property (anno 1283), leaving three sons,John, Gawine, and William, and was s. by his eldest, John Boteler."

William married Ankaret ferch Gruffudd after 2 Oct 1261. Ankaret (daughter of Gruffudd ap Madoc and Emma de Audley) was born about 1248; died after 22 Jun 1308. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Also spelled Angharad.

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate birth: of Prilleston, Norfolk, England
• Alternate death: Bef 1285, Harborough Magna, Rugby, Warwickshire, England
• Alternate death: Bef 1296

Roger married Ida de Odingsells. Ida (daughter of William de Odingsells and Ela fitz Walter) was born about 1265 in of Solihull, Warwickshire, England; died after 1 Mar 1322. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate birth: Abt 1270
• Alternate death: Aft 8 Apr 1325

Notes:

Dugdale's Monasticon Anglicanum (1846) says that this Ida, widow of John de Clinton, was a prioress of Wroxhall and died in 1300. VCH Warwick 2 says that "Lady Isabel Clinton" succeeded Agnes as prioress of Wroxhall and died in 1325. The register of Thomas Cobham, Bishop of Worcester, 1317-1327, names "the noble lady Ysabella de Clyntone" as one of the several parties to a dispute he adjudicated at Wroxhall in 1323, but says nothing about Isabel becoming prioress, nor anything to identify her as the Ida who was the widow of John de Clinton who died in 1311. Additionally, while several records exist of the widow Ida in the 1320s, none of them make any reference to her being at Wroxhall, as a prioress or not. As John Watson pointed out on SGM, 8 and 9 Sep 2017, the likeliest solution to the above is that Dugdale was mistaken, and that the Clinton widow of Wroxhall priory was someone else, perhaps the otherwise-unknown widow of John de Clinton of Coleshill who died in 1316.

"He [John Clinton] married, probably about 1290, Ida, sister and coheir of Edmund d'Odingsells, 1st daughter of William d'Odingsells, of Maxstoke, by Ela, daughter of Walter Fitz Robert, of Woodham Walter, with whom he acquired the Lordship and Castle of Maxstoke and other considerable possessions. He died late in 1310. His widow accompanied the Queen Consort to France in 1312-13. She, who was born about 1270, was living 1 March 1321/2." [Complete Peerage III:12-13]

Douglas Richardson in a post to SGM, 27 Sep 2001, adds a first husband for Ida:

From: Douglas Richardson (royalancestry@msn.com)
Subject: Ida de Odingsells's Herdeburgh and Clinton Marriages: Further Evidence
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2001-09-27 08:31:32 PST

Dear Newsgroup:

Two days ago I announced the discovery that Ida de Odingsells, a descendant of King Henry II, married (lst) Roger de Herdeburgh (died c. 1284), by whom she had a daughter, Ela de Herdeburgh, who left many descendants. Previously Ida was only known to have had a marriage about 1290 to John de Clinton, 1st Lord Clinton (died c. 1310). Following my post, Rosie Bevan kindly provided a citation which confirmed that Roger de Herdeburgh's wife was in fact named Ida.

Since my first post, I've located an informative article on the Herdeburgh family which appeared in Norfolk Archaeology, 30 (1952): 19-25. That article cites two documents, one dated 1284, the other 1286, which establish beyond doubt that Roger de Herdeburgh's wife was named Ida and that Ida, as Roger's widow, held the manor of Prilleston, Norfolk (a Herdeburgh manor) following his death. The article further states that Prilleston was eventually conveyed by Ida de Herdeburgh's heirs to her grandson, Walter de Hopton, Knt. This confirms that that Prilleston stayed in the family past Ida's death about 1328.

As for other evidence that widow Ida de Herdeburgh married John de Clinton, I found elsewhere that Prilleston, Norfolk was held in 1316 by "Idonia de Clynton" [Reference: Feudal Aids, 6 (1920): 478]. Idonia de Clynton can be none other than Ida de Clinton, then a widow for the second time.

Best always,
Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

John married Emma de Cauz after 28 Oct 1230. Emma (daughter of Roger de Cauz and Nichole de Leigh) died about 1250. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Henry married Joan. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate birth: Abt 1200, of Boxted, Suffolk, England
• Alternate death: 19 Jul 1230, Poitou, Aquitaine, France

Notes:

Also called Theobald Walter. Second Chief Butler of Ireland.

"Theobald Butler, or le Botiller, only s. and h., aged 6 years in 1206. He had livery of his estates 2 July 1221 and 18 July 1222. He was sum. cum equis et armis to attend the King into Brittany, 26 Oct. 1229, as Theobaldus Pincerna. Was Lord Justice [I.], 1247. He m., 1stly, Joan, sister and in her issue coh. of John du Marais, da. of Geoffrey Du M., Justiciar [I.]. He m., 2ndly (shortly after 4 Sep. 1225, when the King requests such marriage), Rohese, only da. and h. of Nicholas de Verdon, of Alton, co. Stafford, which Rohese was heiress of Croxden, &c., and Foundress of Grace Dieu Monastery, co. Leicester. He d. 19 July 1230, in Poitou, and was bur. in the Abbey of Arklow. His widow d. before 22 Feb. 1246/7." [Complete Peerage II:448]

Theobald married Rohese de Verdun after 4 Sep 1225. Rohese (daughter of Nicholas de Verdun and Clemencia) died before Feb 1247. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: 10 Feb 1247
• Alternate death: Bef 22 Feb 1247

Notes:

Founded Grace-Dieu Priory in Leicestershire, sometime between 1235 and 1241.

Some corrections and additions to the Complete Peerage points out that omitted from her husband's CP entry is the fact that Rohese was the widow of William Perceval de Somery, who died before 20 Jun 1222, when she and Theobald le Boteler married.

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate birth: Abt 1200

Notes:

Earl of Hereford and, from 27 Aug 1236, Earl of Essex.

Hereditary Constable of England; Constable of the Exchequer 1228; Constable of Dover Castle and Warden of the Cinque Ports 1239-41; Sheriff of Kent 1239-41; Warden of the Marches of Wales 1245; a crusader in 1250; Privy Councillor 1258; Justice of Assize at Cardiff 1261; Chief Captain of the Army in Wales 1263; Constable of Haye, Huntingdon, and Tregruk Castles.

"After his father's death William Brewer had custody of Caldicot [Monmouth] and of Walton in Surrey, but Humphrey had livery of Caldicot Castle and all lands held in chief the next year, the King having taken his homage. He joined the Earl of Cornwall in his quarrel with the King in 1227. In 1228/9 he had an acquittance for 15 1/5 fees of the moiety of the fees of Trowbridge. At the coronation of Queen Eleanor in 1236 he was Marshal of the Household. He had livery of his mother's lands 9 Sep. 1236. In 1237 he went on a pilgrimage to Santiago. He was appointed constable of Dover Castle 27 Feb. 1238/9, which he surrendered 4 Nov. 1241, and during these years was sheriff of Kent. He stood sponsor at the baptism of Edward I in 1239. In 1242 he was in the expedition to France, but returned because of the King's foreign favourites. In 1244 the cause of the Welsh rising is assigned to his having kept in his hand the inheritance of the wife of David, s. of Llewelyn, Prince of Wales. He joined in the remonstrance to the Pope in 1246, and was present at the Great Council of 1248. In 1250 he was among those who took the Cross. On 13 Sep. 1251 he had licence to make his will. He was present at the sentence of excommunication against the transgressors of the charters (1253). He had a protection 15 Nov. 1253 for as long as the King remained in Gascony, and was with him there in 1254, but withdrew (having the King's permission) after failing to obtain satisfaction in a matter concerning his jurisdiction as constable. On 18 Dec. 1253 he and his eld. s. Humphrey had licence to hunt hare, fox, cat and other wild beasts in the forests of Bradon and Savernake, Wilts. In 1257 he was appointed to keep the marches between Montgomery and the land of the Earl of G1oucester, and had a protection 22 Oct. on staying in Wales in the service of Prince Edward. In 1258 he was one of the 24 councillors to draw up the Provisions of Oxford, being chosen among the Barons' twelve, and was thereafter one of the fifteen chosen to advise the King on all points; he was also one of the twelve elected by the Barons to represent the community in three annual parliaments, and was one of the 24 who were concerned in treating of aids. In 1259 he was the King's representative (with the Count of Aumale) for the preservation of peace between France and England; was concerned with Llywellyn ap Gruffydd in the matter of the truce; and was one of the commissioners who ratified the treaty between France and England in July. On 10 Aug. 1260 he was sent to treat for peace with Llywellyn, and on 25 Aug. 1262 was one of the commissioners to meet Llywellyn's commissioners at the Ford of Montgomery. He had a grant of the custody of the lands of the late Earl of Gloucester 18 July 1262. In the struggle of 1263/4 he took the side of the King; was one of the keepers of the City of London, 9 Oct. 1265, and one of the plenipotentiaries for the Dictum of Kenilworth." [Complete Peerage 6:459]

Humphrey married Maud of Avenbury. Maud died on 8 Oct 1273 in Sorges, Gascony, France; was buried after 8 Oct 1273 in Sorges, Gascony, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Buried: 1290, Llanthony Priory, outside Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England

Notes:

Her parentage is not established. Douglas Richardson calls her "presumably" a sister of Walter, Osbert, and Master Giles de Avenbury. Complete Peerage notes that "[a] Walter de Avenbury paid 4,000 marks in 1250 for the custody of the land and heir of Richard de Anesy, and in 1273 a Walter de Avenbury was late collector of the 20th in Hereford."

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate birth: Abt 1205, of Ashill, Norfolk, England

Notes:

Dapifer of Bury St. Edmunds. Taken prisoner at the battle of Sainte, 22 Jul 1242, and exchanged not long after.

Henry married Ada of Huntingdon after 1224. Ada (daughter of David of Scotland and Maud of Chester) died after 2 Nov 1241. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: Bef 1247

William married Eve de Briouze before 1241. Eve (daughter of William de Briouze and Eve Marshal) died between 20 Jul 1255 and 28 Jul 1255. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: Bef 28 Jul 1255

Notes:

"Eve de Briouze, da. and coh., heiress of Abergavenny. She m., after 25 July 1238 (when his father, William de C., obtained her wardship and marriage together with the custody of Abergavenny and the other lands falling to her share), and before 15 Feb. 1247/8, William de Cantelou, of Calne, Wilts, and Aston Cantlow, co. Warwick. He d. at Calstone, Wilts, 25, and was bur. 30 Sep. 1254, at Studley Priory, co. Warwick. Writ of extent 15 Oct. 1254. She d. in 1255, about 20 and before 28 July." [Complete Peerage I:22-23]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate birth: Bef 1185
• Alternate birth: Abt 1195
• Alternate death: 5 Jun 1249, Angoulême, Aquitaine, France

Notes:

Seigneur de Lusignan; Count of La Marche; Count of Angouleme.

Also called Hugh V of La Marche; Hugo de la Marche; Hugh I of Angouleme; Hugh le Brun.

"His father, Hugh IX de Lusignan was betrothed to marry 12-year-old Isabel of Angoulême in 1200, when King John of England took her for his Queen, an action which resulted in the entire de Lusignan family rebelling against the English king. Following John's death, Queen Isabella returned to her native France, where she married Hugh X de Lusignan on 10 May 1220. By Hugh's marriage to Isabella, he became Count of Angoulême until her death in 1246. Together they founded the abbey of Valence." [Wikipedia]

Hugh married Isabel of Angoulême, Queen Consort of England between 10 Mar 1220 and 22 Apr 1220 in Angoulême, Aquitaine, France. Isabel (daughter of Adémar and Alix de Courtenay) died on 31 May 1246; was buried in Fontévrault Abbey, near Chinon, Anjou, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: 3 Jun 1246
• Alternate death: 4 Jun 1246, Fontévrault Abbey, near Chinon, Anjou, France

Notes:

Countess of Angoulême. Crowned Queen of England on 8 Oct 1200.

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate birth: Abt 1192, of Swanscombe, Dartford, Kent, England

Notes:

Called by Matthew Paris "one of the most noble, prudent, and wealthy men in all the realm."

"Warin de Munchensy, brother and heir, unmarried and apparently a minor at his brother's death, gave the King 2,000 marks, to have his inheritance, 23 December 1213. He was involved on the side of the Barons against King John, and his lands were forfeited; but he returned to his allegiance by November 1217. In 1221 he accompanied the King to the siege of Byham; was serving in Wales with his brother-in-law, William, Earl of Pembroke, in 1223, with the King overseas, October 1229 to April 1230, in Wales at the end of 1233, and in Gascony 1242-44, taking part in the battle of Saintes. In May 1244 he was summoned against the Scots, and in June 1245 for service in Wales; in August 1252 for service again in Gascony, which he evidently performed, having respite for aid in respect of that expedition. He was at Dover on 26 December 1254, the day Henry III appears to have crossed from Boulogne. His very rich inheritance and feudal influence were augmented by his first marriage [to Joan Marshal]." [Complete Peerage]

Warin married Joan Marshal after 14 May 1219. Joan (daughter of William Marshal and Isabel de Clare) died before Nov 1234. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: Bef 15 Jun 1235
• Alternate death: Bef 1247

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate birth: Abt 1190

Notes:

Constable of Montgomery Castle 1236; Sheriff of Shropshire and Staffordshire 1236; Justiciar of Chester 1240.

"John Lestrange III, son and heir. In 1213 he attended upon the King to pay a debt on behalf of his father, and in 1214 he was serving in Poitou. In 1219 he was conducting an enquiry into forest matters at Shrewsbury. In 1225 he was directed to assist in conducting to Gloucester the fifteenth collected in Staffs and Salop. On 25 May 1231 the King granted to him and his heirs the manor of Wrockwardine. In 1232, and frequently thereafter, he was appointed to see that the truce with Llewelin was observed on both sides. In 1235 he was Constable of Montgomery. On 24 October 1236 he was appointed Sheriff of Salop and Staffs. Late in 1240 or early in 1241 he was appointed Justice of Chester. In 1248 he was about to go on pilgrimage to Pontigny. In 1249 he had a grant to himself and his heirs of a market and fair at Knockin. In March 1257/8 and again in August 1260 he was summoned to Chester, in October 1261 to London, and in January 1262/3 to Hereford and in May to Worcester, in connection with the disturbances in Wales. He is said to have married Lucy, daughter of Robert Tregoz. He died before 26 March 1269." [Complete Peerage XII-1:350-1]

John married Lucy de Tregoz. Lucy (daughter of Robert de Tregoz and Sibyl de Ewyas) died after 1294. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

"He [John Lestrange] is said to have married Lucy, daughter of Robert Tregoz." [Complete Peerage XII/1:350-1]

CP uses the "is said to have married" formulation, above. Richardson's Royal Ancestry, in the entry TREGOZ 3 (Sir Robert de Tregoz m. Juliane de Cantelowe), says "they had one son, John, Knt. [Lord Tregoz], and allegedly one daughter, Lucy (said to be wife of John le Strange, of Knockin, Shropshire." But having her be the daughter of that particular Robert de Tregoz doesn't work chronologically at all; this alleged Tregoz descent is only plausible if we make her the daughter of his father, Robert de Tregoz who m. Sibyl de Ewyas.

(Note that AR8 shows this Lucy's parentage the same way we do.)

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: Bef 1273

Notes:

This family of Whitchurch in Shropshire is also called Blanchminster, Blauminster, Blancmostiers, Whitchurch, de Albo Monasterio, and "the Warennes of Whitchurch."

William married Eve Fitzwarine. Eve (daughter of Fulk III Fitzwarine and Maud le Vavasour) died after 1281. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: 1249

Notes:

"Ivor West stated, in June 2002, that Elis IV and his sister Bertha were the children of Elis III by an unknown wife, not by Maud." [Chris Phillips, Some Corrections and Additions to the Complete Peerage.]

From Complete Peerage V:639:

Sir John Giffard, of Brimpsfield, Badgeworth, Stonehouse, Stoke Gifford, and Rockhampton, co. Gloucester, Elston, Orcheston St. George, Sherrington, Ashton, and Broughton Gifford, Wilts, son and heir of Sir Elis Giffard, of Brimpsfield, &c. (who died shortly before 2 May 1248) (c), by his 2nd wife, Alice, sister of Sir John Mautravers, of Lytchet Matravers, Dorset.

(c) In 1221 this Elis stated that "Osbertus Giffard, antecessor suusqui venit ad conquestum Angl' tenuit manerium de Bimesfeld' . . . et post eum Elias flius suus . . . et post eum Elias filius illius Elieet pater suus." At least one generation is here omitted. The Elis living in 1221 was son and heir of Elis III, by Maud, daughter of Morice fitz Robert fitz Hardinge, of Berkeley: which Elis III owed 100 marks 'pro fine terre sue' in 1166 and died before Michaelmas 1190, when William le Mareschal owed 140 marks for the custody of the lands of Elis Giffard. Elis III was son and heir of Elis II (who became a monk in Gloucester Abbey), by Berta (living 1167), sister of Walter de Clifford, of Clifford and Glasbury, and daughter of Richard fitz Ponce. In 1130 Elis II rendered account of 100 marks of silver for the relief of his father's lands, being son and heir of Elis I, by Ala, his wife. Before 1096 Elis I had succeeded his father Osbern Giffard, the Domesday tenant of Brimpsfield, Stoke, Rockhampton, Elston, Orcheston, etc.

Elias married Alice Mautravers before 1231. Alice (daughter of John Mautravers and Hawise) was born in of Lytchett Mautravers, Dorset, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

From Complete Peerage V:640:

Sir John Giffard, of Brimpsfield, Badgeworth, Stonehouse, Stoke Gifford, and Rockhampton, co. Gloucester, Elston, Orcheston St. George, Sherrington, Ashton, and Broughton Gifford, Wilts, son and heir of Sir Elis Giffard, of Brimpsfield, &c. (who died shortly before 2 May 1248), by his 2nd wife, Alice, sister of Sir John Mautravers, of Lytchet Matravers, Dorset (a).

(a) John Mautravers gave the manor of Ashton and the advowson of the church of St. Peter at Codford, Wilts, to Elis Giffard in free marriage with Alice his sister, to hold to them and their heirs of their bodies, by the service of a knight's fee.

Notes:

Sheriff of Herefordshire 1215-16. Constable of Carmarthen and Cardigan castles in 1228. Fought in Ireland, 1210, and in Wales, 1257, 1258, 1260, and 1263.

Called Walter III de Clifford by many of the sources cited here, but Peter Stewart (citation details below) says that this represents a conflation of III and IV, and that it was IV whose second wife was Margred ferch Llywellyn of Wales who was the mother of his heiress.

Walter married Margaret ferch Llywelyn before 2 Nov 1234. Margaret (daughter of Llywelyn Fawr ap Iorwerth and (One of the several mistresses of Llywelyn ap Iorwerth)) died in 1265. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: Aft 1268

Notes:

Also known as Marared; Margred; Margaret of Wales; Margaret of North Wales.

Notes on the parentage of Gwladus and Margaret, daughters of Llwelyn ap Fawr:

Complete Peerage (IX: 276) and Royal Ancestry both give Gwladus as a daughter of Joan of England. Royal Ancestry gives Margaret as an illegitimate daughter of Llywelyn.

The Oxford Dictionary of National Biography says that Joan was "probably" the mother of Gwladus and Margaret.

In The American Genealogist 41:99 (1965), Walter Lee Sheppard notes that "DNB's account gives Joan only the son David with Helen as probable. Lloyd's History of Wales [...] includes a chart so drawn as to make the maternity of the daughters questionable, and omits Angharad altogether. Prof. Thomas Jones Pierce in his article on Joan in the Dictionary of Welsh Biography names David, but does not mention the daughters at all; but then his cited sources are ony DNB and Lloyd's History of Wales in earlier editions. The correspondence of the writer with Sir Anthony Richard Wagner, Garter Principal King of Arms, however, indicates that all these daughters, with the exception of Gwladys, have been accepted by Major Francis Jones, best known authority on Welsh pedigrees, and based on British Museum Manuscript Add. 15041, on folio 12a, which shows Joan to be mother of David, Gwenlian, Angharad, and Margaret. It is interesting to note that [Complete Peerage] 9:276, under Mortimer of Wigmore, identifies Gwaldys as Joan's daughter."

Later in the same publication, TAG 41:22, Sheppard provides an addendum, first quoting a letter from E. D. Jones, Librarian of the National Library of Wales: "Robert Vaughan of Hengwrt, a reliable seventeenth century authority, makes Gwladys full sister to Gruffydd, therefore the daughter of Tangwystl. He makes Gwenllian, Angharad and Marred (Margaret) to be daughters of Joan. I am inclined to accept the view that Gwladys Ddu was the daughter of Tangwystl, but in the absence of contemporary records it is not wise to be too dogmatic." Sheppard then continues: "Sir Anthony Richard Wagner KCVO, Garter Principal King of Arms, in a letter to the writer dated 24 Sept. 1964, states that he would accept Margaret as Joan's daughter and, presumably, the other daughters, except Gwladys. He refers to Major Francis Jones and the previously cited British Museum Additional MS, which shows Joan to be mother of David, and points out that the chronology also fits."

Peter C. Bartrum's Welsh Genealogies (1974-83, searchable here; use the search term "Gruffudd ap Cynan 04"), gives Tangwystl as the mother of Gwladus and Joan as the probable mother of Margaret.

William Addams Reitwiesner's "The Children of Joan, Princess of North Wales," in The Genealogist 1:80, Spring 1980, argues that we have no certain basis for regarding Joan as the mother of any of Llywelyn's daughters.

On 9 April 1999, Douglas Richardson posted the following to SGM: "As for the Welsh tradition that any son, legitimate or otherwise, could make a claim to succeed Llywelyn, you may recall that Llywelyn and his son, David, went out of their way to have David recognized as Llywelyn's sole heir, to the exclusion of Llywelyn's illegitimate sons. To accomplish this, they had Llywelyn's wife, Joan, legitimized. The legitimization of Joan was no small feat seeing she was surely born out of wedlock to King John's mistress. Also, they sent David to England to be recognized as Llywelyn's sole heir by the English overlord, David's own uncle, King Henry III. Interestingly, the records of this trip show that David was accompanied by none other than his sister, Gladys. Due to the nature of this trip, it seems odd that Gladys would accompany David on this trip, UNLESS she too was a legitimate child of Llywelyn and Joan. These two pieces of evidence convince me that Gladys was legitimate."

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate birth: Aft 1207, of Wem, Shropshire, England
• Alternate death: 3 Jul 1281

Notes:

"He adhered to Henry III against the Barons and was rewarded with a grant of the Manor of Kington, Warwickshire, belonging to Nicholas de Segrave, 30 Sept 1266. He was summoned for military service in Wales, 1277." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, citation details below.]

Ralph married Maud Pantolf before 1245. Maud (daughter of William Pantolf and Hawise Fitzwarine) was born in of Wem, Shropshire, England; died before 6 May 1289. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: 1291

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: 7 Dec 1269, Dinas Bran, Denbighshire, Wales

Notes:

Also spelled Gryffydd ap Madog. Called "Maelor." Lord of Bromfield.

Also spelled Gryffydd ap Madog. Called "Maelor." Lord of Bromfield and Dinas Bran; Prince of Powys Fadog (northern Powys). "In 1257, he switched his attachment to the English crown following the defeat of Henry III of England in a campaign against Llewelyn ap Gruffydd and promised his allegiance to Llewelyn. Thereupon he was obliged to confine himself to his castle of Dinas Bran." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, citation details below.]

Gruffudd married Emma de Audley. Emma (daughter of Henry of Aldithley and Bertrade de Mainwaring) was born about 1218 in of Heleigh in Audley, Staffordshire, England; died after 22 Dec 1270. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: Aft 1285

Hugh married Isabel de Craft. Isabel (daughter of Roger de Craft and Cecily de Turville) was born in of Pailton, Warwickshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate birth: Abt 1235, of Maxstoke, Warwickshire, England
• Alternate death: 19 Apr 1295

Notes:

Justiciar of Ireland 19 Oct 1294 - 19 Apr 1295.

William married Ela fitz Walter. Ela (daughter of Walter fitz Robert and Ida Longespée) died after 2 Jul 1295. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alternate death: Aft 7 Jan 1311

Notes:

Also called Ela Fitz Robert.

Incorrectly shown by Blomefield (citation details below) as a daughter of her grandparents, William Longespee and Ela of Salisbury.